Pat Stares At Bioshock! (Part 1)

[@Allmageddon343]

6:15 Pat being mad about Art Subtitles only to turn it on and have "Science" show up in smaller, harder to read text and saying "thank you" is amazing

[@RhysClark97]

most pat thing ever.

[@shaddykack]

In his head, Pat spoke with the game’s manager and got a coupon for one free hamburger. Absolute victory.

[@ASlimeDrawsNear]

"There's NO upside to being a dickhead" is basically the theme of the whole game.

[@TheCrimsonFukr]

Gases all but one crew member on his KOTOR 2 playthrough

[@SeruraRenge11]

To this day I'm impressed by Armin Shimerman's range because you can't tell at all that it's Quark voicing Andrew Ryan.

[@ThatWeirdGuyFromWork]

Fucking WHAT

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@ThatWeirdGuyFromWork Yeah, usually when Armin voices a character you can tell it's him. Ryan? I couldn't tell until I looked it up.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

"Is a Ferengi not entitled to the sweat of his lobes?"

[@ibuprofriends]

@@ChrisMerkelStudios 😭😭😭

[@luckdragon88]

So I normally don't bother reading novels connected to video games, but I have to say the one connected to bioshock ("Rapture" by John Shirley) was bloody brilliant. You got to see Rapture slowly fall and you saw it all from the eyes of a regular maintenance guy. It was honestly very well done and I'd recommend to anyone who likes the 1st game and wants to see some of the characters before they totally lost their marbles!

[@loganazyma58]

So it's deadspace

[@beardpalaces]

that brief moment when pat realizes he has more viewers than the blizzard stream was very wholesome. proud of him.

[@fishbiter9409]

A downside of Pat's new setup is that Zangief can no longer jump on him for snugs.

[@111cvb111]

Bioshock 1 is better thematically, Bioshock 2 has better gameplay.

[@probablyfacetious2895]

Bioshock 2 is still great, thematically.

[@Dasaltwarrior]

I think they're on the same level in terms of both, 2 just loses impact since it revisits and reuses so much stuff from 1. I personally like 2 more, but its hard to argue that 1 stuck its landing so well it would've been difficult to follow up with a direct narrative sequel

[@lexofexcel886]

And Infinite has Elizabeth. That's about it.

[@DonnieReno]

I just finished Infinite and loved all three. I’m restarting 1 and will eventually do 2 and Infinite again. I loved the series.

[@jessicalynn5964]

Agreed

[@roodtoob]

Sure is nice of Eyepatchwolf to guide Pat through Rapture with all that advice.

[@MrCeratix]

honestly, biggest shoutout to that pistol equip sound It always made me feel like a badass when I whipped it out

[@LittleMountain90]

I can't wait for Pat to play through Bioshock 1 and 2. And nothing else.

[@joeavreg2254]

I mean I would be down to watch him suffer Bioshock Infinite. It's my drug of choice.

[@songbird515]

Feels like there was a third game but I cant remember hmmm OH YEAH Minervas den almost forgot about that one. Eyup 1, 2 and minervas den

[@austin.....]

I mean Bioshock Infinite is a good game it's just not a good Bioshock game.

[@scottjefferson4048]

yup.

[@TheTrueRandomGamer]

I'm good with just this one. 2 has its own problems and never needed to be made in the first place.

[@onlythefacts999]

1:38:28 A good example of seeing the situation *right* before shit pops off is Dead Space: Extraction. The game starts with the Marker being activated, and there's an incredible section where all the workers turn on each other and go on an insane murder rampage. It then skips a few days to right before the Aegis VII colony collapses, and you see the buildup and initiation of the Necromorph outbreak. Everything on Aegis VII in that game is awesome.

[@god47398]

theres a lot of great shit in dead space extraction honestly

[@samditto]

"Welcome to the CIRCUS OF VALUE"

[@JamalPollok]

2 is weaker than 1 because it retreads a lot of it visually, but I do think it's quite a bit better.

[@colinr0380]

Got to say that the extreme sound design paired with Pat's comments (especially "Ooh! A cream-filled cake on that corpse!") is great to listen to in the background without watching the screen!

[@psychomammoth9640]

I was waiting for you and woolie to come through with this playthrough one way or another. I am a fan of this series, glad to see your perspective if things. Love to see these in whole order.

[@SirSteaven93]

I remember my friends showing me the intro to the Big Daddy back in High School and we were just marking out on how hard he killed that splicer

[@psychomammoth9640]

I like to imagine Pat in the Bioshock universe just yelling out things and even talking to himself in the bathysphere. Lol

[@markrussell1606]

Can you imagine being a splicer just trying to catch a break, when all of a sudden a tiny bald man flanked by two turrets screaming, "I THREW THE DOG OUT THE WINDOW."

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

@@markrussell1606 Out of context, this sounds like actual splicer dialogue.

[@thezambambo2184]

I prefer 2 honestly, even if you're not the exact Big Daddy you'd want to be, you still feel like a demigod

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

I mean you still are a big daddy in that game.

[@Nasiruify]

1:24:49 I want someone to put a cartoon sounding “Bonk” on this 😂🤣🤣😂

[@RanMouri82]

Or a squeaky clown hammer. 🤡

[@TheNukeMuffin]

Pat really pinning down the libertarian philosophy within seconds of entering Rapture.

[@anachronologist2017]

9:10 "In Rapture, you would never need a license to drive a car or marry a child. What a paradise!" They put that on the front of the brochure, probably

[@pickledparsleyparty]

If you want to see a game at the exact moment shit goes bad, keep playing. That's burial at sea, baby.

[@deviantknight7009]

Good pic to replay. Check out the museum for all the cool goodies

[@Davies46]

Pat replaying this spurred me on to replay 2. Fantastic game. I forgot how excited i was for its release. I still have the collectors edition in my shelf lol

[@RanMouri82]

Definitely inspiring me to play 2 for the first time. Hope the HD version on Steam has improved since it was first released.

[@kristiandegroot130]

"I want to see a game ten minutes before everything goes to shit." There's this cool game called Bioshock Infinite, I think you'd like it because it does just that.

[@ac0tactics]

I'm like 80% sure it's exactly 10 minutes. Also does it count? You're being chased by police

[@ac0tactics]

-the entire time. I remember leaving town and comming back post riots.

[@Dasaltwarrior]

Ever noticed how Ryan sounds like an old gangster at 35:05 ?

[@IzzyHackworth]

I think Pat would enjoy the Behind The Bastards episodes about Sea Steading and Libertarians

[@SevenIsaCannibal7]

Something about the song kicking in at 22:24 that blasted me with nostalgia. It being in both Fallout 3 and Bioshock really cemented it in my brain a particular time of my life

[@theULTIMATETetris]

Infinite was my first Bioshock game, so I never understood the hate for it. I've played the first game about 2 years ago and I enjoyed its horror/thriller aspects. I enjoyed them both. Still need to play 2.

[@RanMouri82]

The hate for Infinite came from tying it to the Bioshock series. Not only would the story have stood better on its own, but it felt like a tease to take the moral consequences of the first two games and upend them in Infinite. I wish they would've left Rapture out of it, too.

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@RanMouri82 No the hate from it comes to the fact that it's just a poorly made, poorly thought out game. Matthematosis's critique has aged like fine wine in the 9 years since, and I feel comfortable in linking it since Pat has quoted the guy multiple times in the past kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJWxmaqYbM6of5Y

[@fusioncell7669]

@@SeruraRenge11 I think Boulder Punches video on the wasted potential of Infinite is also really good kzbin.info/www/bejne/amTPi4iXa56oo9k.

[@johndelanie3649]

Pat jumpscaring the jumpscare was the highlight of this one

[@joeavreg2254]

Just to chime in on Pat being mad about the Little Sister Moral choice thing. It was done that way on purpose because the kind of person who would harvest the Adam is inherently monstrous and shouldn't profit from their action. Same way the good ending is to leave and the bad ending is to stay. Better to rule in Hell.

[@RanMouri82]

Exactly. Let the bald monster who tells kids to smoke crack rule his underwater hellscape. 🤣

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

Imagine expecting to be rewarded for selfish actions in a game about how Objectivism is bad.

[@dovgolan8029]

please do a full playthrough Pat, would love to have a vod of it!

[@Sitruk86]

10 minutes in and i can already tell this playthrough is gonna be magical lol

[@ahmedibrahim4997]

seems like this playthrough will be just pat shitting on infinite and I am all for it

[@Nabs-xd2qr]

I was appalled by how insanely racist and frankly, cruel, Infinite was.

[@ahmedibrahim4997]

@@Nabs-xd2qr yeah the game went in a very weird direction at the mid point I wouldn't call it "insanely" racist because I don't believe it was intentional it feels more like levin wanted to make some social commentary but then halfway through it he forgot what he was trying to say and decided to chase the time travel story I feel the biggest problem in its "message" is that it never shows the racist people doing anything nearly as bad as what the revoulotionary people did which might send the wrong message they try to retcon it later in the dlc but that dlc has its own problems

[@Nabs-xd2qr]

@@ahmedibrahim4997 Intentional or not, it was insanely racist. This dude seriously thinks people like us are just as bad for wanting to fight our oppressors? Nah he can fk off. Classic libshit moral panic.

[@en4135]

@@Nabs-xd2qr The game series about horribly cruel establishments set in a fictional analogy of a succesful Southern Succession state was cruel and racist? crazy.

[@Nabs-xd2qr]

@@en4135 You're actually way out of your depth with this conversation because you haven't even begun to grasp the edge of what we were talking about.

[@sprengrau3932]

Pat yelling to the splicer about bitcoin as she tries to tear her way into his compartment is perhaps the funniest thing I've seen all morning.

[@RanMouri82]

Gotta admit, I have not played Bioshock 2 and have been reluctant because many folks said it wasn't as good. I should finally play it!

[@Sabrintb]

It's pretty decent actually. I still like 1 because of the atmosphere, which 2 lacked, imo. No idea why ppl hate on 2 on the internet

[@ForeverMasterless]

It's not a transcendental, influential work of art like the first one, but it's a damn good video game that's definitely worth playing.

[@stjimmerz]

Oh wow I did actually forget Jack talked

[@onecoolcustomer4950]

Why does pat look like he's streaming from a hospital waiting room?

[@Sabrintb]

I really want to know.

[@fafnirlord]

He moved to Vancouver

[@onecoolcustomer4950]

@@fafnirlord did both of them?

[@fafnirlord]

@@onecoolcustomer4950 yeah

[@onecoolcustomer4950]

@@fafnirlord oh thank god.

[@sora20222]

I love Bioshock 2

[@ianhguthrie]

1:42:10 when viewed as just a moral choice in a video game, yes it is indeed a complete failure. But if you take into account the fact that the game is a critique on Atlas Shrugged and Randian philosophy in general it makes sense that forgoing the selfish choice is ultimately the better option

[@gorgondork]

Would you kindly play bioshock 2 after?

[@BigFingerRo]

10:32 This entonation of Buy the Dip sounds a whole lot like BECOME AS GODS

[@zomg1337h4x]

I tried applying for a scholarship that required a report on Atlas Shrugged. I gave up after ten pages. Money just wasn't worth it.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

"Money just wasn't worth it" ironically sums up everything wrong with Objectivism as a philosophy.

[@NeoCreo1]

I for one look forward to the inevitable ongoing battle in chat over how good Bioshock 2 is

[@anachronologist2017]

I've never played Bioshock II and all I hear are incredibly polarizing opinions so I'd be interested in watching a playthrough

[@dominicstevens5851]

FoR tHe AlGoRiThM

[@Damar158]

Pat you should read the tie-in novel Bioshock: Rapture where they detail how things got started and how things went wrong in detail. There's a great 'No, it's the citizens who are wrong' scene involving Ryan and two rival shopkeeps.

[@anoisykricket]

Fun to see Pat play my absolute favorite game series ever

[@laurentiusbaggins8635]

Maybe it is because I am older but some of the things the splicers say are SOOO much more disturbing to me now.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

Okay, this bothered me so much in your stream,,,"Tenenbaum is the evilest one" is just factually wrong...like yeah she's done horrible things, but literally almost every bioshock character has. she's made as much of an effort to turn around as is humanly possible and trying to heal and improve is always better than what fontaine and ryan do, where they refuse to admit they were ever wrong while digging a deeper hole and dragging everyone else down with them. Tenenbaum is probably one of the most well-developed and complex characters in the game.

[@en4135]

Tenenbaum is the one that pioneered the ability to produce Adam in a body, her solution was to take children and do horrible genetic experiments to them. Even after she discovered the severe side effects of Adam she still had no qualms about it. She also helped with the creation of Jack. Even if she eventually decided to help the little sisters after years of experimenting on them her actions led to the deaths of thousands of people. If not for her the events of Bioshock may have not actually occurred.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

@@en4135 I never said she didn’t do horrible things; I just said that she isn’t the *most evil character in the game* That goes to Ryan, Suchong, and Fontaine, who funded and approved of all of those horrible experiments, all while insisting it was not wrong to do those things. Tenenbaum knows what she’s done is terrible and that she can never be forgiven or atone for those mistakes, and yet time and time again she goes back to the city to save as many people who were affected by her actions as she can. That’s as much as any human can do without time travel.

[@en4135]

@@TheLuckOfTheClaws Still not gonna change the fact that Tenenbaum was the one that came up with the idea to kidnap small children and replace their blood with an unstable substance.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

@@en4135 You're not getting my point here, nobody is denying Tenenbaum was a bad person who committed evil actions. But the difference is that she is *less* evil than Fontaine and Suchong, who are equally culpable for the little sisters and neither of them ever attempt to undo their actions like she does.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

Andrew Ryan tries to asphyxiate an entire city to kill two people. Suchong gives a young child a puppy and then immediately forces him to kill it. Ryan and Suchong are unapologetic moustache-twirling cartoon villains. At least Tenenbaum expresses regret for her actions.

[@kusodm2347]

I tried reading Atlas Shrugged in high school but I dropped it when Hank was cheating on his wife with Dagny. Also if you're not aware, Andrew Ryan is voiced by Armin Shimerman, who played Quark on Deep Space 9! Woo!

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

he's also the dad in psychonauts! although he's a much better dad in that game than ryan is to jack, lol

[@SeruraRenge11]

But him cheating on his wife is the best part because it shows the hypocrisy of his character. Dagny isn't married, but Hank is, and while he's admittedly stuck in a loveless marriage with a woman that tries to regularly emotionally manipulate him, Hank has a very strange view of what constitues a breach of contract. Maybe it's because Rand wrote this in the 1950s but apparently, despite the fact tht Hank views his marriage as a contract, he doesn't seem to realize that because he's having an affair, he has broken the terms of that particular contract and it is time for it to end. Instead, he doggedly sticks with his marriage, and quite naturally makes himself and everyone around him more miserable than they have to be. At least until the very end of the book where he finally drops the harpy bitch of a wife.

[@spiraljumper74]

I tried reading Atlas Shrugged a couple times, most recently a couple years back when I was finding references for an essay I was writing in a comparative poli-sci class. And boy, that book sucks. Rand would be a terrible writer even if she was making crowd-pleasing pulp schlock, but she’s even worse when just literally writing a cult text for the world’s most selfish religion.

[@nervmeister]

1:24:49 - "Excuse me, could you hand me that teddy b-"....

[@princescribbles684]

Pat making fun of libertarians is my new favorite genre of lets plays.

[@hyperrustynail]

It’s a shame that the Bioshock 2 remaster didn’t include the multiplayer, using the geyser trap plasmid to launch myself into the rafters and sniping people either the elephant gun or the crossbow, then using the Houdini plasmid to get away when people caught on was one of my favorite tricks.

[@nexusj13]

No Gods or Kings. Only Trains!

[@RanMouri82]

Only Pat. (But don't call him Patrick.)

[@cobra29935]

ok am i the only one that actually enjoyed the pipes hacking mini game in bioshock 1? cause everyone that talks about that game hates it.

[@thelegalsystem]

I love that shit, always have. Nice little puzzle to give me a break and the benefits are fantastic

[@tylerengel]

1:13:08 Pat trying to dodge the missile in real life LOL

[@d00medmagus5]

This game helped to facilitate my thalassophobia and I hate(love) it

[@samditto]

Lol i love wrench playthrough

[@randomwowaddict]

I remember my reflex here was yelling out of fright and pulling the trigger, which blasted my shotgun and shot that guy a good few meters away from me. My friend laughed at me.

[@Kevinofrepublic]

Bioshock Infinite is based on Sucker Punch? holy shit. poop.

[@John27686]

My favorite thing to joke to my dog is throwing him out the window. Fun fact, that very act has its own word. Defenestration.

[@tymelthompson4182]

"Ambeyonce". Only the old fans caught that one.

[@lelynneer5213]

Loved this game and everything about it the gameplay, art and story just got me, even read the book which was in interesting perspective of the figures of rapture especially Frank's fuck crazy of a backstory

[@FightingFoodonsFan]

1:42:18 Not a "complete failure" many people want to get all endings themselves and the ending is based on how many you rescue/harvest (from all rescued to all of them harvested).

[@shaddykack]

Featuring my favorite antagonist, SleepingEyePatchWolf

[@bl1neoner370]

Pat plays the good games.

[@tpeack]

on a replay i actually liked infinite and couldn't really remember why i ended up disliking it, then i hit finkton and from that point on all the charm just went out. the opening of infinite is fantastic, environment and music and actually being able to interact with the world in a non shooty way, like the vigor showcase, the whole thing falls apart in the middle for me. like at that point i don't feel columbia i feel corridors. 1's base game and 2's dlc are still the peak, the dlc for infinite looks great but the story is eh. the e3 "preview" for infinite looks so much better than what we got, but it's all scripted, like the world and characters are experiencing the tears and not just us. like the campaiging guy who speaks to an audience we can't see but he can, and he shifts to a communist mid way through, or the woman sweeping up a burning building, is she crazy, or are her and the fire in two different versions of the shop and we see both. like the idea that you could get around without drawing attention so the vox and patriots could ignore you or engage depending on your actions, and song bird could swing by forcing stealth.

[@SeruraRenge11]

Infinite is a terribly, horribly paced game with a completely unnecessary and dragged out middle third. Also....like half the guns kinda suck. Yeah I don't use some of BS1's guns either but I understand what purpose said gun serves in the game. Infinite cared more about the story it wanted to tell than to have a good game with that story, which kinda makes the story fall flat on its face. But then this is nothing new, everyone has ragged on Infinite for these things, even Pat did back during that SBFP yearly roundup where he noted that for a game that tries so hard to talk about racism, you can find parts of Canada TODAY that are more racist than Columbia.

[@KaptinScuzgob]

my problem with infinite is that the gameplay is very basic and does nothing to advance the gameplay of 1 and 2

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@KaptinScuzgob Oh for sure, if anything it sometimes feels like a step back

[@BlazeMakesGames]

yeah I don't think Infinite is that bad of a game. I would even call it a good game on the whole. But compared to Bioshock 1 it's a huge step down. And they really drag things out and get a bit way to into the weeds with certain aspects of the story that don't make sense. Like I was following it and I even liked Elizabeth and the whole multiverse thing. But then they start abandoning realities like its no big deal over and over. Like they make a deal to go get someone in base reality. And then they go to another universe to find them. And then I think they go to a third universe to resolve the quest, and just never go back to baseline reality ever again? Plus it's just disappointing to go from a game where you have a huge arsenal of guns that have really cool visual upgrades, to a game with a CoD style 2 weapon limit that forces you to just abandon guns over and over with none of the upgrades being visual. (and also how do the upgrades work when you're just picking up random guns off the ground???). I think it's clear that there was originally a much more open style of design that they were going to use for the game based on the trailers, where the railhook thing was just gonna be a means of travelling between zones, but it ended up becoming a corridor shooter by the end. Also iirc the Second DLC for Infinite is like, unreasonably good. I believe you play as Elizabeth and it's actually interesting because it becomes more of a stealth game with some detailed mechanics. It's very different of course, but I think that makes it better because it makes it harder to compare to the original. And by being able to be its own thing I think it sets itself apart well with some cool mechanics and such. It's just a shame that it's relegated to a fairly short DLC.

[@thelegalsystem]

I finished Atlas Shrugged, mostly out of spite. I can assure you that it is absolutely terrible and just drags on and on and on.

[@versebuchanan512]

Ayn Rand was hypocritical bitch who died demanding government assistance, and her writing was overly dense pseudo-philosophical trash. I'm sorry you had to read it all, too lol

[@SeruraRenge11]

My problem with the book was every character was a massive hypocrite, and yet only with the looters is it shown as a negative.

[@onimaxblade8988]

@@SeruraRenge11 Man, reminds me of how much of a hypocrite Ryan is *laugh tracks* At least Fontaine isn't a hypocrite though. He's just a piece of a shit, and god bless him.

[@spiraljumper74]

@@SeruraRenge11 Welcome to libertarianism.

[@bl1neoner370]

Pat's brightness cheat works every time!

[@petchpm]

Really wish Pat would play AC7 dlc missions, its only 3 mission of crazy fun

[@Masamatt90]

Pat: *saves child* "jesus you look like shit!"

[@Gaz_3]

Seeing people argue over which Bioshock games are good reminds me I prefer to live in a bubble where I just have my own little opinions on these games I grew up playing. Cause honestly I loved all 3 but the older I got the more divide I saw about which was better, which was never really a problem for me. I almost feel like it's become a trend to just kind of hate this series, unless I misunderstand. Which makes me sad, there's fewer series that have impacted me more, atleast as a kid the first ending to Bioshock 1 actually made me cry, and that's the first time any video game had ever done that.

[@Scruffman]

Majority of people agree that 1 & 2 are good whereas Infinite is nearly universally disliked.

[@Gaz_3]

@@Scruffman Maybe I should genuinely replay it as my impression as a kid is obviously gonna be pretty vastly different from me as a 21 year old. But I remember Infinite blowing my mind. Then again I was like, what, 12? I'm not sure how i'd feel now in all honesty. Haven't even played it's DLC. I think a big reason I kind of don't get the hate is some people love to dogpile onto Infinite for being "Centrist". And then alot of those people proceed to have a childs understanding of what centrism actually is. But maybe i'm just not understanding something here, I don't necessarily think showing the extremes of two political factions and how both can go too far is necessarily a bad thing. But I'm a bit miffed because some people (mostly on twitter) seem to get angry that the game just doesn't reflect their political views, which I think is a really shitty reason to dislike a game.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

@@Gaz_3 yeah, but saying that the people enslaving others are just as bad as the enslaved workers trying to revolt against them is kiiinda really racist. vox were in the right to use violence to rebel because when they were being literally murdered and lynched, they had no other option than to fight back. colombia wouldn't have listened otherwise

[@Gaz_3]

@@TheLuckOfTheClaws I don't really think going as far as to aim a gun to a childs head is justifiable in any scenario. You saying that violence was justifiable isn't wrong but the problem with people in your mindset who see this as black and white is the senseless and indifferent slaughter of people who are guilty simply by association, and I think it was the point the game was trying to make, that going to lengths of extreme violence to a degree just makes you a monster in your own regard. It's a very, two wrongs don't make a right scenario, where you go from doing the right thing in revolting to committing senseless violence that doesn't even correlate to revolution. I don't think that's racist, I think the game was just making the point that radical extremism sucks. And that blindly believing in one goal can create people with a "ends justify the means" mindset that can cause them to do terrible things.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

@@Gaz_3 that’s a very good point, and I do agree! But I think that’s not the best narrative to apply to a slave rebellion, and the game bungled that message somewhat by condemning Daisy as irredeemable for pointing a gun at a child, while Booker gets a redemption after literally participating in a genocide in which women and children were burned alive.

[@acezar2644]

Infinite may not be good, but sure gave us a very popular character

[@wineoneone]

Rapture is Cryptoland in this essay I will-

[@CaptainHair2]

Yesss. I now feel bad that I haven’t checked out the Dishonored playthroughs yet. I’m way behind.

[@RDR911]

Why would you feel bad…? It’s not like anyones expecting you to watch it?

[@tylormanderla6886]

I’m just here for the hot takes on objectivism

[@colinr0380]

@1:27:53 turret helps again!

[@nicolaschaves7758]

23:11 T POSING PAT

[@ForeverMasterless]

BioShock 1 is a work of art. BioShock 2 is a great game/product but artistically bankrupt (except for the Minerva's Den DLC which is actually the best BioShock thing). BioShock Infinite is just a mess, but I still kinda like it for the art style and set pieces.

[@theaspiringwriter7249]

I hope he plays Bioshock 1 AND 2. 2 is VERY underrated is just as good if not better in some aspects than 1. But fuck infinite stay away from it

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

I don't get the hate for the third game i had a lot of fun with it.

[@RanMouri82]

@@touchingisjustthefirststep I could be wrong, but I think it's that they made it a Bioshock game instead of its own stand-alone game or series.

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

@@RanMouri82 so people didnt like that it wasn't underwater rupture but a complete different thing?

[@ForeverMasterless]

@@touchingisjustthefirststep It became a very generic shooter with less RPG and plasmid elements and the story was bad. But it's enjoyable enough I'd still recommend it, and the art style is top tier.

[@joe__]

yo WHAT

[@zydian_]

does the game have new game + on the old versions (xbox 360, ps3)? edit: also, never touched infinite and never will.

[@chillhour6155]

That connecting to EULA really grinded my gears, beyond fkn tired of these game publishers

[@jessicalynn5964]

Pat pat pat pat!

[@TuxedAaron]

"In the interest of full disclosure, while I'm certainly no Objectivist, yeah, you'll be unsurprised to learn that the broad strokes of it have always been kind of appealing to me. I can totally get on board with the notion that the world runs best if government, religion, society, morality and various other systems of arbitrary behavior control just kind of, 'get out of the way' and allow the exceptionally intelligent or exceptionally visionary folk among us 'do their thing', in the realms of business, art, science, whatever. EXCEPT that I'd add the caveat that it runs even better than THAT, if those same exceptional folks return the favor by not being DOUCHEBAGS about it...a point on which I can only assume that the late Miss Rand and myself would have disagreed." - Bob "MovieBob" Chipman. I just find myself coming back to this quote every time Ayn Rand's obvious influence is brought up for this game. At first blush, you can appreciate what Andrew Ryan was hoping for by creating a community with no restrictions, wanting to see what advances could be achieved where artists, scientists and dreamers were accountable only to themselves and their own consciences. However, Ryan makes a critical...albeit obvious...miscalculation in creating his utopia. He actually TRUSTED that people would be true to themselves and their own consciences. Because the truth is, when it gets right down to it, people, if completely left to their own devices, will generally come up with reasons to justify ANYTHING they want to do. Throw splicing and Adam into the mix and the whole thing just turned into the Fifth Circle of Hell. At least...that's just MY thinking on it.

[@SeruraRenge11]

Movieblob's statements will frequently get shot in the foot with 5 minutes of seeing how he feels on twitter.

[@TuxedAaron]

Eh...as a general rule, I tend not to care what ANYONE thinks on twitter. I find it conducive to my psychological well-being.

[@unboundsky9999]

Man, I really wish they made a 3rd Bioshock. Too bad we never got one.

[@jonaswest6993]

Yeah I hear Bioshock 3 is in development right now

[@iMoD190]

it's called Prey.

[@TheLuckOfTheClaws]

They did, it's Minerva's Den! And then they neeever made another one :>

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@iMoD190 No, Prey is the compromise we got after the world fucked us out of getting a sequel to the original Prey.

[@iMoD190]

@@SeruraRenge11 I wouldn't even call it a compromise. there's zero connection to the original Prey. they just made a good system shock successor and slapped the name on there.

[@Nasiruify]

Delicious delicious plasmids

[@ItThunderbolt]

Ohhh baby

[@erkmi3481]

Why isn’t this on his twitch? Can’t find it

[@spideralexandre2099]

I'm still struggling to understand what specifically in Bioshock Infinite is taken from Sucker Punch. The game isn't about hiding from your rapist in childlike fantasies

[@phlaminngooo]

The absolute psychic damage I took from learning that the man behind one of the greatest dunks on libertarians, ALSO loves Zach Snyder, the man who absolutely loves Ayn Rand's ideologies (though he may not realize he shares ideologies with her, to be fair)

[@Kango234]

Who are you referring too? Also I don't know much about Any Rand, but I feel like Zach is just a simple man who likes big action scenes. But I've only seen 3 of his movies so I don't know.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

Ah, yes. I too remember that scene in Man of Steel where all those orphans were trapped under the burning building screaming "save us, Superman" and Superman said "fuck you, pay me" /s

[@phlaminngooo]

@@Kango234 Sorry I should have been clearer, Pat says it in the beginning, Ken Levine apparently said in an interview he loves Sucker Punch so much it apparently influenced Infinite? And it's super fair to see Zack Snyder that way, but unfortunately if you're the kind of person who dives into like what movies are saying and what kind of beliefs go into making plot points, it seems Snyder is very much into things like Great Man Theory and Ayn Rand's philosophical Objectivism. If you (or anyone looking at the comments) happened to be interested, Sophie From Mars has a really great video about the way Zack Snyder's beliefs, and their connections to Ayn Rand, appear in his works.

[@Kango234]

@@phlaminngooo Oh ok, sorry myself since I just skipped through the video and missed that. Honestly anyone liking Sucker Punch that much is the most bizarre thing I learned today, but I might check that video out.

[@victormorris8276]

Zack Snyder just likes the fountainhead because of the message that an artist shouldn’t compromise their vision. He’s even came out and said that the book shouldn’t be adapted into a movie.

[@bl1neoner370]

Bioshock Infinite is like Godfather part 3. Misunderstood.

[@Mekallena]

I prefer bioshock 1 to 2. I even like the first third of bioshock 3 compared to 2... Still not sure what the hell was happening in the latter 2/3 of 3. Not the story itself but why the story went that direction in the first place. It could have been great and then they ruined it. 2 is just meh to me. Maybe it's better to play, but from a viewer perspective, it's no where near what 1 is. I'll still watch Pat play 2 bc I'm interested in his take on things, but that's about it. I'll probably have it running in the background while I read tbh. Whereas I legitimately want to watch him play 1.

[@samditto]

BARTER FAIR!

[@ice_queen9]

i didn't enjoy this game because like all the guns are revolvers, and i'm bad at shooting, so this is probably the best way to experience it

[@TheDarealvirgo]

Bio shock infinite is a great game. Do I think that it’s better than one or 2 story wise? Not realli. The one thing I seem to notice of why later games aren’t as good as their predecessors is because the original game introduced an idea... any game that comes after will just build on the idea. I think where infinite fell short writing wise is that I feel they were super ambitious of the story and connecting rapture to Columbia. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Even though the writing wasn’t perfect it still was realli good and encouraged me to play a second time to find all the voxaphones. Infinite isn’t the easiest to understand but once you do it does bring things to a whole new light.

[@ElijsDima]

When Infinite.

[@anachronologist2017]

4:30 This whole rant explains exactly why I hated Bioshock infinite and didn't even fully comprehend the depths as to why until now. It all makes sense. Damn you Ken Levine and your shit taste.

[@screamingphoenix8113]

Bioshock 2 is better objectively. Because it doesnt have a shitty hacking minigame.

[@aznthy]

No, it's because Objectivism is trash.

[@CorruptedSoul12]

Also the Drill Dash and dual plasmids is DOPE AS HELL!

[@scottjefferson4048]

bioshock 2 is way more fun to play, although the level system is a little weird since it feels like you go through levels on mario bros.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

Bioshock 2 also made being a Big Daddy way more fun than the last 20 minutes of Bioshock. No need to follow the Little Sister around from body to body for the whole level. Simply pick her up when she's done harvesting and carry her on your back. And the fact that you control when she starts harvesting means you get more time to scout an area and set up defenses.

[@chillhour6155]

So you're only defence is the hacking mini game ?

[@smashbro247]

1:24:44 is the best clip

[@starplatinum7753]

Why did it take so long for you to play this Pat? Even in your SBFP days you and Matt didn’t touch it. So wha happun?