Pattern Cutting - Flat Pattern Drafting, the Bodice Block part 1

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[@chrysanths6395]

This is one of the lessons I was looking forward for a long time, this will be useful even for the school children around the world who likes sewing. Thank you for your generous teaching!

[@angelakanetv]

Chrysanths Thanks so much. I'm gradually sharing all my videos rather than having some by subscription/membership. Fan Funding is the way forward and will become much more important in future for video. I am creating more patterns and ebooks for members or to buy but in future videos will all be free but of course will continue to feature my own patterns.

[@chrysanths6395]

That's a great news for your KZbin viewers!!! Wish you all the best for the future videos!! :)

[@MaryE4601]

I have just started following your videos. I am from the U. S. and I am so glad your videos are done using the inch measurements. In 5 months I will be 65. I don't know why I have waited so long to learn how to draft my own patterns. Thank you so much.

[@IuliaBlaga]

Thank you for making so clear, not cutting corners and most importantly staying on track. I m so tire of tutorials getting off the subject and wasting time. I am so glad I have found your channel.

[@korlugbalee7153]

Thanks to all of you for sharing your sewing and cutting tips. You are not selfish.

[@TheRuthfaithworrell]

This is the best bodice block video on KZbin thus far...thank you so much God bless..

[@angelakanetv]

ruth worrell Thank you Ruth. Such praise is greatly appreciated.

[@alanlongwani7829]

You are God sent! Some people are so greedy to share like you do. God bless you!

[@angelakanetv]

Thanks Alan. Originally I had some videos on my site just for paying members but now all my videos are freely available. I sell my patterns and membership and free videos is a good way to introduce people to my site. But I don't mind if people just enjoy the videos. I really appreciate your comment.

[@alanlongwani7829]

Cheers Angela !

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Alan Longwani yes very greedy they are because they want the knowledge all to themselves or you either pay money in exchange to get it,,smh so sad but thanks for sharing this God bless you plenty!

[@marymary5494]

Thank you, this is by far the best video I have come across for drafting.

[@davidmarks509]

Thank you. You are a wonderful teacher. :) Even though this is not a T-shirt. This information is excellent to get a start on garment drafting. I look forward to getting stuck in. I do not have a set square yet. I will see where I can get a good sized one. So far what I did was buy a small child's T-Shirt at a thrift shop (To make the copy from). The reason for this was to reduce the material cost, support a charity, and have a source of very cheap material that I can learn on. I am really looking forward to making my own simple T-shirts. Take care.

[@kisses20001]

i subscribe few online class for pattern drafting but this is the best and simplest form I've ever seen easy to follow.. thankS ANGELA KANE..

[@sbaumgartner9848]

Your instructions are the clearest I've found. Thank you.

[@nadiand559]

thats what I was looking for. thank you so much :) I can start sewing after 6 years again :)

[@angelakanetv]

I'm thrilled to have tempted you back to sewing!

[@angelaweaver9175]

I have enjoyed watching your stuff.I graduated from college in 1996.I have never got to use my degree expect to design my own wedding gown. Hats for church. I also have done other things for my self. I have never got to work as a paid designer because I have had a medical condition that kept me from living in Dallas! I love designing clothes !Especially since I design fashionable designs th at evolve God on them!I believe that God will make Huge Dream come true!

[@victoriat4579]

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[@angelakanetv]

Thank you for such a generous comment.

[@lozskez8281]

Oh thank you for this video post. The most informative I've seen. my daughter is at college doing her third year in fashiin and clothing. She has now started this term doing pattern cutting and is a bit thrown. This will help her alot. x

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you so much. I still remember learning it at college. My best advice is to understand the basics then just keep drafting and making up in cheap fabric or calico and try things out. Rip out seams and slash pattern pieces just to see what can be done. Experience is what matters. I have recently been scrutinising and testing methods in many of the current books on pattern cutting just for my own interest. I'm amazed by all the different methods and also the very differing results!

[@suzanalkhodairmedicaledito6177]

I am finally learning to make my own patterns, and your method of teaching is very clear and easy. Thank you very much.

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you so much. I hope to be adding more to this Pattern Cutting series soon.

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[@AliciaCatalina]

I have finally done make my own draft fit prefect on my body shape can use to make my own clothing . Plus the viedos are to understand and your PDF are very handy to have plus the patterns. Thanks again for these amazing viedos and websit.

[@ladysaraby]

Thank you so very much for this video! I could weep with relief: I finally understand something after watching several other tutorials on the topic and feeling like it's all rocket science!

[@jakipullman]

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[@Ms161966]

Hello Angela, Thank you so much your videos.

[@angelakanetv]

+Manilar Chit Hi Manilar, Thanks for your comment. I'm really pleased you like my videos.

[@cathyalyna]

I was dreaming for a vedio like this from u.. million thanks! thank u so very much

[@angelakanetv]

cathyalyna Thank you so much. I'm glad you are finding it helpful. Pattern Cutting frightens many sewers and it is quite difficult to explain but once you get used to doing it, the logic behind it becomes clear.

[@KikiContrerasNyu]

I tried many times to make my own body block and always failed! I'm excited to try your version, you are my favourite sewing source! Thank you so much for these tutorials Angela, is very nice of you to share (: Hugs from Spain!

[@angelakanetv]

Kiki Contreras Thank you very much Kiki. It's really nice to hear comments like this. Best of luck with your pattern drafting.

[@karlmarsh7175]

+ANGELA KANE Sewing TV hello I'm stuck with drafting bra patterns

[@t-.-t.]

Kiki Contreras so how did it go? did you make the pattern?

[@KikiContrerasNyu]

Kitta12320 yes I did! And it's my favourite method to draft my patterns now. Once you memorize it it's super quick and easy

[@t-.-t.]

Kiki Contreras Thank you. im going to give it a try as well. :)

[@sabik.6298]

This is very good, It helps me very much. Kind regards from Germany

[@angelakanetv]

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[@JamL681]

Thanks Angela. I have since paid for a subscription. You are that good! I have learned so much.

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[@HearThisDestinyChanger]

thanks for your video, you are encouraging me to start sewing again

[@studentRN81]

Thank you Angela Kane!! Love you!!

[@angelakanetv]

studentRN81 Thank you so much!

[@hilyahthedesigner]

Thanks for this Ms Angela Kane. You're a blessing in this fashion world!

[@codelucky]

Do you realize how inteligent you are ! 👏

[@angelakanetv]

So sweet! And funny :)

[@tompahdea5799]

You can use "freezer paper" that has the shinny surface to draft patterns or even make copies of patterns. Use the regular paper side to draft on as the shinny side is not very cooperative to write in. The advantage is that if you want to have a stiff copy for extended lasting you can iron it on to an additional cut of freezer paper.

[@angelakanetv]

You can print my patterns on to any kind of paper that is either A4 or Letter size. You can even use lightweight card. Any media that your printer takes. We don't get freezer paper in the UK as far as I know but yes, that sounds like a good idea.

[@ayeshaibraheem6216]

ma'am your explanation is so simple and easy to understand. As I m from India please do tutorials on some patterns drafting for Indian clothes

[@angelakanetv]

+Umm Zayd Thank you for commenting. I will add your request to my to-do list.

[@ifykalu3921]

before I start. I love how you speak

[@angelakanetv]

Hi Ify. Thank you so much.

[@jamilpk5898]

ANGELA KANE Sewing TV hi Madam very good ur work I like it plz I want to make coat blazer I want pattern becz I don't know how I cut plz send me video

[@shaktibishnoi5255]

God bless u ms Angela 🎉🎉🎉❤️

[@HeroLabsMovies]

It would be helpful to have info on how to take measurements and what points on the body those measurements match up with. I used measurements from a book on drafting and the terms didn't match up. Since the patterns overlapped by several inches when I measured the front shoulder line, I knew things had gone terribly wrong. But I don't see any info to help me corolate terms.

[@patsygraham2600]

thank you for your wonderful video's it so helpful to me god bless

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you Patsy. That's very encouraging!

[@pheadranichols8254]

can this bodice be used for woven and knit. i notice that the back does not have a dart. is that need for a woven pattern.

[@vijayalsk]

helps to clear my doubts.thank u

[@angelakanetv]

My pleasure. I'm glad it helps.

[@redtedart]

One day I will brave a more ambitious sewing project!

[@angelakanetv]

Maggy Woodley Thanks Maggy. My projects aren't really ambitious, it's just that the seams are longer :)

[@sumiyagantumur4804]

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[@genshinellie2383]

This is harder than learning Math hahahaha peace

[@elloraneelam1509]

This is math actually literally.

[@sweetpeahno6202]

I bet you it is!!! 😩

[@JM_Gernale]

This is so helpful! Thank you

[@angelakanetv]

AugustAvalancheBaby Thank you so much for being attentive! Great to have early praise. It's very encouraging. All four episodes are ready to go public in the next couple of days. Thanks again for commenting.

[@hazelblair6634]

Hello Angela 1st i would like to thank you for taking the time to make all the videos. i am about to start out on my journey of trying to make my own clothes. and all so for my family members if i get any good at it. i am spending time gathering bits and bobs that i hope will help me with this venture. i have on order a french curve and a hip curve. But i would like to ask you about your set square. it looks like it has metric and imperial on it and would like to ask you do you know where i can get the same one. i was following your every move and could see what a boom your set square is for this job. i know if i keep watching the videos and stopping and starting it i will be able to follow you and hopefully i will have a work in progress at the end of it. i will be going out tomorrow to see if i can get some paper for drafting. Thank you again so much. i now feel like i have a chance of doing this. x

[@angelakanetv]

Hello Hazel, Thank you so much for your comment. I'm pleased to hear how you are getting into pattern cutting. You can order the set square in metric, imperial or both here - www.williamgee.co.uk/shop/grader-set-squares/. They supply all the traditional equipment used in the trade.

[@aslamali1292]

Advice me any book to learn pattern cutting. I am in need of your advice.

[@FRifqaGhaffar]

I like your block because it really suits to my age.

[@poemitchan]

I always admire your videos for clear instruction and insights! I am looking for the set square you use on this video, which is equipped with both cm and inches, but I have been unable to find a purchase site. Could you please tell me where I can get this?

[@angelakanetv]

Misako T. Hi, yes I'm always being asked. Here is a link to a very old established 'rag trade' supplier and I got mine from here when I was studying fashion years ago www.macculloch-wallis.co.uk/p/82620/pattern-making-equipment/mw/graders-set-square Thank you so much for commenting.

[@poemitchan]

Thank you so much for paying attention to my little question! I visited your suggested link, but the available one from the store was metric only. However, thanks to you, I now know that it is called a "graders set square," I further searched and found one that has both cm and inches: www.eastmanstaples.co/index.php/combination-graders-square.html. I hope this is of help to other people.

[@glynishigham1893]

brilliant video, very easy to understand,. also can i ask, when and how do you add any "ease" into the pattern and how much ease should i add, thanks in advance

[@angelakanetv]

Hello Glynis, There is a difference between wearing and design ease. Wearing ease is factored into the sloper when it is drafted so for an average size, close fitting block, the most important consideration is the ease at bust level which is at least 4”/10cm, that’s 2” on the half pattern. There should be at least 3” or 1½” on the half pattern ease at the hips. Everything else can be considered design ease. You may like to draft blocks with design ease added as well. If you want a basic jacket block for example, you would add extra ease to accommodate garments underneath, you would increase the ease at bust and hips, you would draft a lower under arm point, have a wider sleeve and extend the shoulder point. So it is quite difficult to be prescriptive about design ease as it all depends on the style and the garment’s purpose in life. I hope that helps a little. Ultimately it is about trying things out using cheaper fabric and gaining experience. Thank you so much for your interest in my videos and good luck with your projects.

[@radhakrishnaradhakrishna5136]

Can you show 36inches measurement please

[@francisoselumense1338]

Thank you very much for your teaching method, can you also do a video on drafting basics bodies with waist dart?.

[@nithibasker4529]

It's really amazing tutorial and clear explanation 👌 👌 👌

[@angelakanetv]

Your comment is much appreciated.

[@putthelordfirstcherismemor7947]

Good job lady may God blessyou !!!

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you. That's very kind.

[@thedevo01]

Hi, I really love your videos, and I am already _so_ grateful for your efforts, and because of that I don't know if I'm asking too much, but when you display values in your videos, could you make two columns, one for inches, etc, and one for metric values? Thanks a lot for this channel though!

[@angelakanetv]

Devo Castler Hi Devo, yes this would be a good idea. I know I should concentrate more on metric as I am in the UK. I don't get many complaints though and of course the US still work in inches. I do refer to metric in places but I will try to include more measurement conversions. Thank you so much for commenting and for feedback.

[@MsKJ2007]

Will you please provide the direct link for the PDF for the different sizes for the bodice discussed in this video?

[@angelakanetv]

MsKJ2007 Hello, The information for variables appears in the PDF which is currently only available to members or to buy. I have though added the variables to my Free Videos page here. I hope that helps. angelakane.com/sewing_videos/sewing_lessons_pattern-drafting.php

[@MsKJ2007]

Thank you!

[@studentRN81]

Hi Angela Kane! What if bust is way bigger than the hips? (bust is at 41 and hips is at 37). Would I just draw a straight line from the bust and just make the hips 41" instead of 37"?

[@maythammohamed9125]

Thanks a lot .l always follow your videos and l hope from you to present an illustration video for blazer

[@angelakanetv]

+Maytham mohamed Thank you. Yes, that would make a good tutorial. I'll try to do it.

[@shaktibishnoi5255]

You aree wonderful ❤️. Thankyfoe sharing knowledge ❤️❤️❤️

[@thoapham3112]

Thanks your sharing ♥️

[@corihardy22]

How do I take the measurements from the body and convert them into inches in order to create the sloper? and does that method work for making menswear Sloper's?

[@folashadedavies]

Please can you use markers or drawing pen to make the lines more visible. Thank you.

[@angelakanetv]

I would use a marker if I was making it now. I hope you are finding the New Pattern Cutting Series is clearer using Diagrams - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5DLnmiPgb-Ueq8

[@iamsuzn1224]

thank you so much ill watch it now 😙😙

[@level2456]

The top line 1/2 bust + 2 to 3inches is it not going to be too loose, why not just 1/2 bust?

[@eerisel9797]

hello Angela, Thank you so much your videos are amazing thankyou very much for making this information available. Can you recommend a pattern making book?

[@eerisel9797]

+Eeris K do you have a book you wrote i can purchase ?

[@eerisel9797]

just went to your website never mind :) thank you

[@SefateKaniz]

Thanks for sharing

[@SoulSearch11110]

Thank you ma'am

[@chizobasunday13]

Thanks for the illustrations, please can you kindly convert the pattern cutting variables to inches, I really do not understand centimeters. Thanks

[@angelakanetv]

Hello, This tutorial is in inches and the variables on my site - angelakane.com/sewing_patterns/pattern-cutting/ - are also in inches. However my New Pattern Cutting Series - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5DLnmiPgb-Ueq8 - is metric.

[@snehalraut4056]

hi i am a nift mumbai student and I want to ask can I use these measurements for size 8 mannequin?

[@level2456]

Hello. What happens if you want to turn the pattern into V-neck? I sometimes experience gaping. Do we also have to reduce seam length by the armhole?

[@rags166]

Good Day, will you please tell me, How would i measure shoulder slope...?

[@hatimyousif1802]

Thanks for all. I hope you'll enjoy your life and work. Please provide me with men's classic shirt patterns size 18 inches

[@angelakanetv]

An 18" collar is a 54" chest for a man's shirt. My man's cut shirt pattern is aimed at women and my sizes only go up to 44" bust. I hope to add more patterns for men in the future.

[@juradeclothing3554]

I like it... Thank u

[@dilshadroshanali5757]

You are sooo good

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you so much.

[@Robinkae]

ANGELA KANE how to measure

[@angelakanetv]

From about 1:20 will show you how to take measurement.

[@level2456]

Hello, when cutting the fabric,do we include sewing allowance?

[@priscaosuya]

Yes

[@MissRuma]

Brilliant videos! Very simple and easy to understand. Thank you! I have a small request: I want to learn how to make gowns. I've made a couple of gowns but they just don't look neat enough. Also want to know how to add long trains without having a seam in the middle (for a circle skirt type of gown). Thank you in advance x

[@neetitripathi1261]

YOU ARE AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@michaelsrowland]

I don't get the connection between pattern drafting and the design of the item. When taking measurements how do you decide the design of the piece

[@pintukoushik8835]

very very nice

[@angelakanetv]

Thanks very much.

[@olyganize]

Hi Angela I'm looking for how to make a back curve in the middle of the back pattern?

[@angelakanetv]

Do you mean more shaping for a hollow back? You can easily take a curve out of the back seam at the fitting stage.

[@olyganize]

Thank you! But its too tricky to do it myself..

[@callyfrench643]

great tutorial

[@yakub1695]

Thank you so much!

[@glowgloworiakhi3372]

I appreciate your videos, been a subscriber for over a year. Quick question please, where's the link to watch how to draft a fitted bodice? I mean with waist darts and all. Meanwhile, great job. You make it easy.

[@angelakanetv]

Hi, I haven't produced a video yet of the fitted bodice but it is on my list. It is included in my eBook series but I do intend to put a version out for free on KZbin - hope you can wait. angelakane.com/sewing_ebooks Thank you so much supporting my site.

[@glowgloworiakhi3372]

Thank you so much for replying.

[@iamsuzn1224]

please i wanna learn sewing but i just don't know from where should i start am comfused can make atutorial about this pleasssssse - watching u from iraq 😊

[@angelakanetv]

Hi, Have you watched my Sewing for Beginners series? - Here is the playlist - kzbin.info/aero/PLU_hpXrimvBeGPDSryXw1Ko7paROlV3k9 Make the Simple Sleeveless Top and you were learn basics of sewing.

[@goldenvibes952]

What if the pattern that i made was to fit people who wear a medium-sized clothing, how do i convert it to small, large, x-large...

[@aprilaleksander]

Golden Vibes that is called "grading" if you search "how to grade a pattern" you should find what you are looking for :)

[@Kiwiwikiuu]

I don't know if I'm slow or what but i am so lost with everything, i really want to start making my own clothes but i have no clue where to even start everything seems so daunting

[@tishatownsend2588]

Raquel Dixson word I though I was the only one lol

[@Kiwiwikiuu]

I literally gave up. It's way to confusing I have so many ideas in my head n absolutely no clue how to make my own clothes or get a factory to make em

[@orangefanta6567]

Raquel Dixson You should try again, but maybe with simpler projects. starting off with pattern making is scary for a beginner, especially if you don't have a teacher answering all your questions. Working with stretchy fabrics (like stuff in t-shirts and bodycon dresses) will be easier because theyre forgiving of mistakes. Starting there will be easier as a result. I reccommend Annika Victoria or WithWendy for some beginner tutorials. Annika has a website with other easier tutorials as well. I really hope you give sewing another go

[@Kiwiwikiuu]

MintyMentoes aww thanks Hun it's just so overwhelming honestly

[@orangefanta6567]

Yeah, I felt the same way lol, but i think you can do it

[@vijayalsk]

helps to learn from home

[@angelakanetv]

Yes, I agree. You can then take your time.

[@mohorali3624]

thank you

[@angelakanetv]

Thanks for your comment.

[@steffipavitti]

Hello 😊 Are seam allowances added here at this stage or later, thank you ☺️

[@johanna5688]

Later

[@ashabisht8136]

how do we measure the half bust length?

[@julietcaulker368]

Thank you for this tutorial please could you just help me more by making the lines a bit darker l can't see them very well Thank you all the same

[@angelakanetv]

Yes, I agree with you. This is one of my early tutorials and it would be good to re do it. Have you seen the new metric version? kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5DLnmiPgb-Ueq8

[@ayeshaatta2863]

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[@salauddinkhan6640]

very good more more video make you.

[@BlankStare7326]

are the add-on numbers the same for children's patterns?

[@nelukadesilva]

Good and thank you

[@1goddarddr]

I would like to see how to make pattern for pants

[@angelakanetv]

I have four trouser patterns including Women's Jeans and Men's Selvedge Jeans See my Sewing Patterns here - angelakane.com/sewing_patterns/

[@ashleywouston5593]

hello angela can you explain pattern drafting for girls .... say 7-8 years old

[@AliciaCatalina]

I have a question how can I make a mermaid pattern for a dress or a skirt?

[@angelakanetv]

Hello Bertha, A mermaid skirt is very fitted so it would be a question of taking say my pencil skirt pattern - angelakane.com/sewing_patterns/patterns/pencil-skirt-sewing-pattern-483.php and curving the side seam in as much as you need for the look you want. Also shape the back seam below the seat. Bear in mind that you need to walk so you need a back or side slit.

[@AliciaCatalina]

Okay, thank you so much for all your help. Once again thank you for viedos and website.

[@langlester09]

love it

[@angelakanetv]

Thank you very much.

[@Chinazoakuchinedu]

Amazing, you have a new subscriber. Did you teach pattern making Natalie bray? Any link to it id you did. Thanks

[@angelakanetv]

I'm a big fan of Natalie Bray. I studied pattern cutting in the 70s and it was essential reading! I use many references and of course my experience over the years for developing my patterns. Most pattern drafting books are quite difficult to follow. I try to make my methods easy for beginners but also useful for pattern cutters/designers generally. Thank you so much for subscribing.

[@Chinazoakuchinedu]

Very interesting to know. Really your method is very easy to understand. Thanks so much

[@muhammedmamdouh6720]

many thank to you . is it comeing in arabic trans plz.?

[@angelakanetv]

I'm working on adding more translations. Thank you for your feed back.

[@MsShaw-uv8vy]

What’s most confusing is when she adds other measurements that you may or not be. Thank for the video but like others I need to take classes. It’s hard when actually it’s just hard to understand if I’m not in front of someone learning and asking questions

[@aylafrance]

Ms. Shaw if you think this is bad, try the metric one.

[@samoe2455]

thanks

[@angelakanetv]

+Sa moe And thank you.

[@yanethgrandison1013]

como hago para oírlo en español gracias

[@astridflagelarsen48]

Where do I find the "PDF Guide"?

[@angelakanetv]

Hello Astrid. All the variables are freely available on my site - angelakane.com/sewing_patterns/pattern-cutting/. The PDF eBook describing in detail drafting the bodice and sleeve can be purchased here - angelakane.com/amember/cart/index/product/id/152/c/

[@galaxy6plus58]

Do you have this video in centimeters?

[@14bogota]

thankyou!!

[@angelakanetv]

My pleasure.

[@saumyasahni9484]

Is this the bodice pattern for US size 8?

[@angelakanetv]

Sorry for late reply! Take a look at my International Sizing Chart - angelakane.com/sewing/sewing_pattern_sizes.php -. Yes, a 33½" bust would be around a US size 8. In the UK it would be a 10.

[@PinkDiamond7777777]

Any in cm? the industry tends to work in cm. Where the cm vidz at?

[@angelakanetv]

Hi, yes, you are right of course and I do try to give both. Many of my members are in the US and they appreciate the inches.

[@PinkDiamond7777777]

ANGELA KANE Sewing TV OK. That's fair.