I Ranked Every Shotgun in a Tier List (Destiny 2)

[@PattycakesGaming]

Please forgive my awful Ragnhild pronunciation LOL, it was before I learned how to say it 🤣 Watch this next: I Ranked Every Exotic Weapon in a Tier List kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKqrY6amnplpaJI Check out Gjerda here: kzbin.info

[@ssjronin3972]

Compass Rose was judged unfairly. You hated on it. And yet praised the seraph shotgun that has the exact same roll combinations. Disappointment. Compass Rose would be more forgiving since it would need less pellets to ko

[@clarkfuckerberg8498]

@@ssjronin3972 compass rose had this weird thing where it would whiff shots like crazy. not a tinfoil hat thing ether.

[@ryantann]

Bruh screw the pronunciation lol you put it in the B tier which I don't agree with it's easily S Tier

[@clarkfuckerberg8498]

@@ryantann bruh it gets out classed in almost every way, the moment you take off a arc subclass it becomes a potato shooter

[@Gjerda]

Thanks for having me on, this was fun! I’m glad we included Duality 💛

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

Great to see you on other peeps vids.

[@Gjerda]

@@Jamesssssssssssssss thanks :)

[@PattycakesGaming]

If enough people ask for it we may be forced into making a slug shotty version 🥳

[@Gjerda]

@@PattycakesGaming oh dang you’re right haha, I would do that!

[@m4j0r3x]

love your vid man, so chill and you inspired me to be a blinklock

[@AscendantNomad]

S-tier content my man. Love this format, Gjerda is a wonderful presence. This video is killer!

[@Gjerda]

thanks nomad! 🙏

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

Awesome to see Gjerda in your video, really enjoying all the colabs that go on in the destiny community.

[@Sir_glizzius]

About prophet of doom your overlooking the fact it has slide ways which gives it 30 handling for sliding for 2 secs which is more then enough of a handling buff to make it not feel slow

[@joshuacalebroman478]

A man of culture, my prophet has full choke, accurized rounds, slideways and opening shot with a range masterwork and it deserved the A tier.

[@Uncodemode]

i like this kind of ‘podcast’ type of gun reviews. Very reassuring to have a discussion going on between 2 knowledgeable payers to pinpoint how good a gun is .

[@gcarsk]

One thing I saw you leave out about the Ragnhild-D. It has the origin trait “Halle Breach Armaments”, meaning it can one-tap Titan barricades. Awesome addition to an already solid weapon in today’s overshield/barricade-based PvP meta.

[@helamananderson3992]

Quickdraw/snapshot is honestly my favorite perk combo. I fell in love with it on my seventh seraph wayyy back in season of the worthy, and now reckless endangerment is close with perpetual. I don’t have the same range as some other shotguns, but it’s just so incredibly snappy I love it

[@quinncharleshatton]

Might want to do another tier list with the new pellet spreads, idk if gjerda is willing to do anything including shotguns rn sadly, love you gjerda

[@JohnSmith-uf3yn]

S tier (Matador 64, Timelost verdict ) A tier (without remorse, ragnihld & seventh cqc) B tier, everything else

[@ananaskii7971]

I was waiting for this video for so long. Thank you pattycakes!

[@-FLIPSID3]

Wicked awesome vid as always and great collaboration with Gjerda as well!

[@chapystick_]

At first I was confused like you were missing a few but I was actually just mistaking a few sniper rifles for shotguns

[@tylerlloydboone]

Excellent job fellas. Collaboration videos are great, especially when you include Gjerda. Relaxed thoughtful content creators like you and Gjerda make the community better. Thank!

[@iLLWiLLx21]

Does the bonus tier list on barrels contradict what Gjerda said in his shotgun vid? I’m confused😵‍💫

[@M1thicaI]

finally you made a shotgun teir list keep up the amazing work patty

[@M1thicaI]

Sorry. I fixed the bad spelling

[@GreyGamingGG]

Finally got a chance to watch this one, love that you had Gjerda on with you. S tier content patty. 👍

[@leafyisnthere9396]

Never forget that Adrenaline Junkie boosts handling by ~20 after a kill, all stacks do the same.

[@Gjerda]

big true

[@Boomer7654]

Wait what

[@byCeevu]

I used over a thousand spoils to get the god roll Found verdict back then and ended up getting corkscrew+assault+surplus+opening+handling masterwork (unfortunately not full choke) and I have over 10k kills with it and I can confirm that this is by far the most consistent and overall best shotgun in the game.

[@Jibba]

Thats what im afraid of. Im about 400 spoils in and best roll i got is a range, full choke, assault mag, auto loading, opening shot. Gonna wait till master Vow to see how the spoils work with adept crafting before I dump more into Timelost Found Verdicts.

[@Kevin-xq2tv]

@@Jibba dont think you can craft adepts i mean if should bc it you cant whats the point of running non enhanced perks?

[@Jibba]

@@Kevin-xq2tv yeah I just dont know yet but if theres even a chance for adept crafting from vow spoils might be extremely helpful

[@killersparky4044]

I really want to get a timelost weapon but its so high to be qble to do master vog

[@nrjx__skud4161]

I have full choke light mag,surplus opening shot and range masterwork. I dont know if there IS a lot if difference between Light mag and accurise but it's fine

[@xiato8300]

Seventh Seraph is always my go-to shotgun. Got myself a complete god roll. Full Choke, Assault Mag, Quick Draw, Snapshot (which can be changed to trench barrel for pve) and a range masterwork to top it all off. Such a amazing shotgun.

[@bobjames7286]

I’ve got the exact same roll it’s so good

[@randallbrooks7708]

Missing acurized but assault will work

[@PattycakesGaming]

That's my current fav too, I really love it!

[@Eyes_of_Oryx]

@@randallbrooks7708 I prefer assault mag for faster follow up shots.

[@randallbrooks7708]

@@Eyes_of_Oryx lightweights fire fast enough. Assault mag is for shi like found verdict

[@Uncodemode]

After this video I checked my vault to find the exact Fractethyst roll (full choke, accurized, quick draw, opening, handling mw) and decided to try it out in freelance over my Riiswalker (full choke, accurized, quick draw, iron reach, reload mw) and i definitely felt like the Fract was more consistent with that first shot being 100 range and a slightly faster pullout speed. farmed around 500 kills on it this weekend, Thanks to this video or else it woulda kept gathering dust in my vault. I knew the roll was good, but i didnt know it was THAT good.

[@davidenderton3838]

Loved the video! Definitely try making a slug shotgun version as well

[@AeonsAegis]

...With Gjerda.

[@rylandercoleman2740]

I really want an astral with the og loadout of elemental capacitor and threat detector. I hope its brought back eventually

[@AreteZoe]

I hope they bring it back in a different shotgun that makes people want to grind for something rare af. So it'll be fantastic but rarely seen. I like weapons like that

[@ayhamhuq2062]

I have that exact roll, I don't even know why I kept it (probably because at the time I didn't have a QD roll yet). It's honestly incredible, but I haven't used it much in WQ bc of arc

[@rylandercoleman2740]

@@ayhamhuq2062 luckily the raghinhild d exist otherwise id be upset lmao i do have a threat detector opening shot one but its handling base is so low it really sucks

[@Jibba]

Doesn’t make too much of a difference but Reckless Endangerment has the intrinsic perk Vanguard’s Vindication that gives a small amount of health with final blows.

[@islxndz3367]

I agree with their placement as a comparison to the other lightweights, but it’s just something about it that feels very consistent to me especially with quick-swapping like they had said. Overall a pretty good primary lightweight but probably not better than riiswalker or wastelander!

[@charlieemery5916]

Man I have been waiting your tier list videos ! Keep it coming brother !

[@archieg4]

complete noob here but how do you get to see all perks, mods and masterworks like you did at 0:46? thanks

[@xPoorboyx]

My two favorite chill af KZbinrs. And a shotty video. *levitates for the sluggish gods*

[@richieh7476]

Toil and Trouble fanboy right here! It was my go to kinetic before riiswalker. It's an incredibly fun 6s shotgun, Full auto and rampage is fun for that mode

[@SierraMonstera]

ik this video is specifically shotguns but if you're running just casual crucible, don't sleep on the sunset weapons. i have a ringing nail with Dragonfly rampage, and this thing is a monster

[@amaan9194]

I was going through my vault along with the video and found that I had a 5/5 Wastelander with full choke/accuurized/slideshot/opening shot/range MW. Thanks Patty & Gjerda!

[@Eyes_of_Oryx]

I would prefer assault mag and a handling masterwork instead… just my personal preference.

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

what is the website you use to customize the different loadouts possible for those shotguns?

[@dietcockadept7004]

D2 gunsmith lets you build weapon rolls

[@aidanwatson7548]

Been using the retold tale for trials this weekend & it’s been amazing with one two punch purely because of Titans abusing bubbles on zones

[@shybinx_]

What 🤨

[@Marques0302]

That is actually smart wtf

[@aidanwatson7548]

@@shybinx_ simply shoot a Titan point blank then melee & they die in their bubble

[@eman111555]

yoooo what

[@Tricendo]

titans are so fucking broken

[@Anothersillylifter]

I've said this 5000 times, but Timelost FV is the best in the game. Mine has Full Choke, Assault Mag, Auto loading, Opening Shot and a Handling MW w/ Adept Handling. Add quick Charge and this this has 88 handling (can feel faster with dexterity and targeting by ~5 handling) along with an 8m OHK range and 60 fire rate stat that increases with kills. My Favorite part is that it sits lower to the screen and the barrel is longer, making it ill further and not obstruct your screen. Since the gun has auto loading you don't have to worry about reloading and not having ammo since i would use it over surplus which adds no real additional benefit, slideshot is also perfectly fine. You can also swap to vorpal as a plus on the timelost version. I usher everyone to get a timelost found verdict as soon as you can, it is the single most consistent shotgun in the game and could be pair with kinetic primaries which by far are the best. :)

[@br1cks930]

It’s a really well thought out video with lot of emphasis put into it, even I already know almost everything, still enjoyed watching it in full, thanks

[@Duva_]

"best barrel option is full choke" oh how the turns have tabled

[@bluyu]

Seventh Seraph Thorn (and sometimes Fatebringer) is definitely one of the best combos in the game imo. Leaving an opponent weak for longer is amazing for shotguns due to the pressure it puts on the opponent, and both weapons having stupid handling with any any build makes it so that you never even need to go for a one hit kill. Alternatively, Wastelander with Palindrome or Sunshot is also really good for the same reasons, but they lack the Thorn DoT that makes Seventh Seraph and Thorn so strong. I literally am never in a bad spot with the combo, because the speed buff helps me stay out of super long ranges and close the gap more easily, the handling lets me easily swap fire and adjust to close and midrange, and the Thorn DoT wins duels and can completely shut things down. Also snapshot is busted and slideshot pushes out that one hit kill range. Quickdraw isn't necessary on this gun, but it's still nice to have for some people.

[@Calebjw1]

Loved this video instant subscribe too both you guys keen too see more tier lists for sure Love the format of this video with both your inputs on things

[@Paladin1034]

I rolled a god roll CQC in the season it debuted with full choke, accurized, Quickdraw, snapshot. It's been my go to shotty ever since, even when felwinters was in its prime. I just like the feel of the lightweights, and this one feels the best to me.

[@paulrietveld9837]

I've been waiting for the next one of these. Thank you

[@BretMFNTaylor]

Risswalker is definitely the best kinetic option mainly because of its nice consistent ohk and insane double pump range which people don't rely talk about but double pumping with this shotgun and cleaning up with it is insane.

[@FlareKnight808]

LET'S GOOOOO I actually have the wastelander roll you guys talked about... not really any of the other ones but still I was happy xD

[@KeyZ1086]

Great video, felt lost recently with shottys so this I feel has really brought up to date. Thanks 😊

[@JH-vb1wo]

Man there are so many great options u really can't go wrong. I'm glad they toned down aggressive frames because we needed variety

[@manuelnunes8415]

really useful guys!

[@scrythis1]

what about the styles of bullet spread the different barrels give? what about spread consistency generally?

[@twistedtomato222]

I did like my riiswalker but then u stopped using it cause it just wouldn't perform how it used to imo. But recently started using it again. Roll: Small bore, tactical mag, iron reach, Quickdraw, handling masterwork. Icaris grip

[@Tyberes]

Are the older season activity guns listed here just "Wait for Xur to sell them?" or is there a reliable way to go grab them.

[@Shaunpm92]

This video was amazing would love to see this for hand cannons and stuff too! I was also about to type what if you get everything but not full choke during last minute and then yous starting talking about them 10/10 video

[@teamred8149]

I liked my Wastelander with Perpetual Motion + Opening Shot + Handling barrels and MW Very reliable at cleaning up in a fight or the occasional deterring a ape

[@skipping5252]

So you think smallbore is better on ragnhild than full choke? I am not sure which to run

[@amarious400]

What hand cannon is that at 5:58

[@jpmorgan6146]

Is found verdict without range masterwork still decent ? Still have opening shot and aggressive frame on it. (Non adept)

[@aidanbuckle5273]

Always love these collaborative projects Patty, it seems like you're always having a fun time with these talented guys, and it makes the vast D2 content creator multiverse feel more familiar and close. Keep up the good work! Telesto glitch tier list next?

[@ImGulpy]

Does quick access sling still only proc when at the end of a mag?

[@BionicThiago123]

Great vid, pretty much spot on. Only one I disagree with slightly is Xenoclast should be A tier IMO. I think the Swash roll makes it a utility lightweight on the same level as a Vorpal CQC or Retrofuturist.

[@armleo99gutmez17]

Thanks for the info. Thats the reason i felt the felwinter inconsistent

[@SilencedSounds123]

The adept comedian can now get steady hands in that 1st column. Might be A tier now

[@xbavox]

what about found verdict (not timelost) ? is this still any good? And which tier would you put it in?

[@LoitumaMarz]

Yet another banger of a tier list! I’ve said it a few times already but since I started playing in October I’ve improved a tremendous amount and your videos really guided me Pattycakes. Thanks again 💪🏽🥳. Also thank you too Gjerda!

[@PattycakesGaming]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks :)

[@ethanglinsky2211]

Where would you guys put parcel of stardust , im between that and waste lander

[@kskrocksolid1948]

I have 2 retolds shotguns one has QuickDraw and snapshot with assault mag and the other has slideways and snapshot love both retold but which do you prefer as far as the perks go

[@devg6901]

I have an OG astral with threat detector and elemental and I love it. Best feeling shotty I have! Love pairing it with my adept Pali

[@SirVexStomper]

Is regular found verdict good? Wondering because they're getting rid of master vog soon.

[@elliottcoiley5277]

It makes me wanna come back to the game so what the best shotgun in game?

[@Gjerda]

Timelost found verdict with around 50 base range, full choke, and opening shot, then as much handling as you can get

[@theteeve]

can riiswalker still roll with iron reach or has that been taken out?

[@reptar1098]

Does frenzy help found verdict and raghnhild?

[@S4NlTYS]

curious where you would rank the fortissmo on this list

[@thesetzers8952]

Is there any reason not to use ophidian in PVP?

[@Sebastian-ht6fi]

What about the one you get from vanguard the foorgiano?

[@JH-vb1wo]

Fractethyst has become my staple for the most part having Quickdraw or ensemble paired with opening shot or even harmony it hits hard. This shotgun has a few solid options

[@willtaylor6793]

My first random roll purchase of riiswalker from Saladin this month and I roll it with QuickDraw, iron reach, smoothbore, light mag and a range masterwork. It has 95 RANGE

[@Domryoo]

smoothbore is not really good tho

[@lightberricsHDHD]

what about bonechiller? did i miss it sorry new to pvp/destiny have the gun dont know if worth using or not

[@DJIsher1]

Great video! I love watching both of your breakdowns on your respective channels and seeing you two come together for this was a great watch. It would be great to see more of this in the future. Maybe a primary breakdown to compliment the shotgun playstyle like pulse rifles, hand cannons or maybe even autos haha.

[@townsennelson2043]

what is that eager edge tech at 27:40????? on well too wtf

[@jetlifekid17]

Haven’t play d2 in awhile is dust rock blues still good?

[@BrotherChi]

do you think you could redo the subclass pvp tier list with the new void 3.0?

[@keith5127]

Yo it’s really nice to hear someone talk about retrofuturist I’m a casual player and I have over a thousand kills on it. Beat most consistent shotgun I have

[@LouieSlayz]

I suppose the reckless endangerment is ranked appropriately, but I find it to be so much more consistent than any other lightweight I’ve used and I prefer it over other primary shotguns.

[@crouchpotato8086]

What website are you using to create your rolls?

[@Changingtesting]

I was just looking for a updated shotgun tier list!

[@Changingtesting]

My new favorite shotgun is now the wastelander

[@michaellopez112]

Whats your take on wallah saying the xenoclast is the best shotgun. Argument is that it’s the same as the seventh seraph except you get killing wind instead of snapshot.

[@-gg8342]

You guys are great! I got a god roll ris and wastelander. I like the wastelander best!

[@ross7499]

You missed Bonechiller from Europa. I have one with 85 range and opening shot. I'd Ike to know where that would be on this list.

[@dredgenyor-bman]

What’s the website he uses to choose ideal perks?

[@NightmareX7288]

Love your content keep up the great work. can't wait until you get 1m subs

[@Space_CowboyXV]

Felwinter is still the most consistent shotgun in my hands. Every other shotgun cannot compete.

[@DaddyGreer65]

Yea I agree, I still use it a lot and I say it’s still S tier to me.

[@tides8463]

is it still possible to get fractethyst?

[@AreteZoe]

What a dope video. If anyone is like me and plays the ranged game but is looking for a comfortable shotgun to have for the maps that just demand it, I really recommend something with QuickDraw and snapshot. It lets you pull them out in emergencies and if just feels so good. And chances are you aren't ape'ing with it so it's just a defensive option. For that reason me and my retold tale go way back, because I'm a sniper player that prefers long range weapons. But when I need a shotgun, I pull out my speedy boy and play with my team. I just got so spoiled by QuickDraw and snapshot that I just never looked back. But don't bother tryna be an ape with it

[@dailydestiny8151]

pattycakes i am not the titan but a hunter the shotgun xenoclast is very good if you get fullchoke acurized slideshot and vorple with a range master work it just maps

[@standupmoko9618]

I think you're underrating slideshot on shotgun massively! its such a nice +20 range boost and the reload mid fight can help you clutch alot, especially on a lightweight where you can get to 100 handling with just quick charge

[@wisdom_adept]

The eariest iv been on an upload

[@derekclark3439]

Same bro

[@wisdom_adept]

Just finished. Great vid

[@elopez1014]

I have an astral with full choke accurized rounds range masterwork opening shot and surplus. It used to have quickdraw on it but after they removed it it hasn’t been the same. It’s just to slow to get out but it still has insane range and hits like a truck.

[@TonyDupre]

Wastelander getting the love it deserves. Basically my go-to shotty.

[@VexFord]

I have risk walker with god roll but it has Rifled barrel instead if full choke, idk if its worth using now

[@pirate135246]

Full choke is actually irrelevant on aggressive frames, instead go for small bore if you need range, barrel shroud if you already have 60+ range so you can get more handling, or corkscrew for a mix of both

[@Averagedestiny2addict]

I have a matador with 85 range base and opening shot. But, it does 40 damage from about 3-4 meters away.

[@ForTheViolence]

As a part timer shotgunner. I really appreciate this list! There’s so many good ones it’s hard to pick.

[@acasualglitch]

If you received CQC when you could get two perks in the second perk column you can have both snapshot and vorpal. I switch to vorpal when the supers come out. My absolute favorite shotgun

[@alexclopez]

How about a fusion rifle tier list?

[@Zikuto_]

really good and informative video. Keep it up