Paul Kingsnorth- creativity, the education system and its dangers and capitalism.

I am excited to be speaking to Paul Kingsnorth in this episode. Paul and I talk about the challenges that society faces and how we got here this journey encompasses education, capitalism and we discuss how the old stories warn us of such times. Paul is deeply insightful as always and it is good to speak to someone who wears his heart on his sleeve.
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Paul Kingsnorth is an English writer who lives in the west of Ireland. He is a former deputy-editor of The Ecologist and a co-founder of the Dark Mountain Project.
Kingsnorth's nonfiction writing tends to address macro themes like environmentalism, globalisation, and the challenges posed to humanity by civilisation-level trends. His fiction tends to be mythological and multi-layered.
After travelling through Mexico, West Papua, Genoa in Italy, and Brazil, Kingsnorth wrote his first book in 2003, One No, Many Yeses. The book explored how globalisation played a role in destroying historic cultures around the world
Kingsnorth's second book, Real England, was published by Portobello Books in 2008. In this book, he reflected on how those same forces of globalisation affected England, his own country, in the homogenization of culture. This was Kingsnorth's first successful book, resulting in reviews by all major newspapers and citation in speeches by both David Cameron and the archbishop of Canterbury.
He has contributed to The Guardian, The Independent, The Daily Telegraph, Daily Express, Le Monde, New Statesman, London Review of Books, Granta, The Ecologist, New Internationalist, The Big Issue, Adbusters, BBC Radio 4, BBC Radio 2, BBC Four, ITV, and Resonance FM.
His first novel, The Wake was longlisted for the Man Booker Prize and the Folio Prize, shortlisted for the Goldsmiths Prize, and won the Gordon Burn Prize.Film rights to the novel were sold to a consortium led by the actor Mark Rylance and the former president of HBO Films Colin Callender.
Kingsnorth's second novel, Beast, was published in 2016 by Faber and Faber and was shortlisted for the Encore Award for the Best Second Novel in 2017. His third novel, completing a loose thematic trilogy beginning with The Wake, will also be published by Faber. Announcing the deal, Faber's editorial director, Lee Brackstone, said: "We are welcoming to Faber a writer who belongs in the tradition of past greats like William Golding, Robert Graves, David Peace and Ted Hughes. His sensibility sits comfortably with theirs and his literary achievement could well go on to be their equal. He is that good".
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[@nikola9348]

Totally agree on the schooling. Mass schooling is also responsible for the alienation of the generations from each other. It exports the responsibility of raising children away from the family/community and hands it over to a system which puts almost no emphasis on character or values but is focussed on secular individual achievement (which is defined entirely by how "successful" a career one has).

[@vichyland4130]

Thank you Nikola

[@joannelopers9974]

Unschooled my children youngest is 15. Beautiful beings they are.. Thoughtful, kind and resourceful...

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks Joanne for your comments, and well done for being brave

[@V4D2]

Man.. Thanks so much for this. I discovered Paul and his thinking&writing a few months ago...and have been going through much of what i can find online featuring him.. I must say that..at a personal level..this one has been my favourite, so far. It really hit me close to home. So simple.. Such a laidback conversation..and yet...so so relevant.. pertinent ..and ..invigorating. Being both a songwriter, and a writer, I must reiterate what you both mentioned in the end : One absolutely is a writer..a musician..or any other label(?)....when one decides to being one! Thank you again Cheers from Portugal

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks that is very kind, I’m glad you enjoyed it

[@chubbyrain3]

Fantastic discussion gents, thank you. You have a lovely interview style, Vic. Keep up the good work.

[@vichyland4130]

Thank you , glad you enjoyed the interview

[@camillafadum1485]

Fantastic talk! Thank you!

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks Camilla

[@maryjo8882]

This conversation was so refreshing and gives me some hope. I homeschooled our boys 20 years ago and was viewed as a weirdo but I never believed public school could do for our sons what being free to investigate life and free to explore could do.

[@vichyland4130]

Good on you for doing that, I certainly think that the education system has not improved in that time

[@MildredAchoch]

Great conversation! Very informative. Thanks!

[@vichyland4130]

Glad you liked it

[@ladyfaye8248]

I believe that all the 'thinkers' currently communicating on the net, need to arrange to be communicating in real person, or on a media which cannot be listened into by 'big brother'. I believe there is hope in such as Paul and yourself, Jordon Peterson, Jonathon Pageau, the folks on Daily Wire, etc getting together and forging some possible way forward, of goodness. I volunteer myself to join such a gathering, partly as I definitely have things to say, but also because there is a notable dearth of women 'intellectuals/ concerned citizens' in what used to be described as the 'Intellectual Dark Web'.

[@charlesleblanc6638]

Very interesting interview, with very important point of views, which might just be an insight of how we could all live simpler and happier, while at the same time be caretakers of the land, and to all of our relations. Something that I can relate to which has served me well.

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks for your comments

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks for your comments

[@johnaghydon1]

Perhaps Martin Shaw might be someone you'd be interested to have a conversation with regarding the art of storytelling, oral tradition etc : )

[@vichyland4130]

I have tried contacting Martin Shaw a few times but without luck. But I am still looking to getting him on

[@johnaghydon1]

@@vichyland4130 ah yea, thought you might have known about his work - fingers crossed that may still occur : )

[@OCCUPYTVTO]

Viewers here will appreciate reading Ivan Illich's views re. Education and Educational Institutions. Look him up!

[@ladyfaye8248]

I guess we should not be using internet at all, even You tube, due to the harvesting of all our information.

[@vichyland4130]

Yes ironic

[@jocl]

The fact that someone can blame capitalism and make good use of it has always been fascinating to me... blaming the system for all that's wrong in the world while taking advantage of it.

[@vichyland4130]

Difficult to work outside of it

[@s.e.klocke]

I wonder, as a young boy, if you were to try and do your art quiet and in peace, how dou earn your living. Cause idealy I wouldnt wanna do my music on the side u know? I wanna do it very much really.

[@vichyland4130]

Are you asking how to earn a living from music?

[@s.e.klocke]

@@vichyland4130 well kinda. But without losing that way of playing in quiet and peace and to really enjoy the music itsself

[@vichyland4130]

@@s.e.klocke might require you to think deeply about various aspects of your life. The financial and the artistic and spiritual, is there a way for the music to connect with others and would that involve money? I have a number of artistic projects that do not bring money in but they advertise what I do. What do you do for income?

[@BillViall]

Paul Kingsnorth is such a gem. Here are few ideas of his that caught my attention during this talk: A disappointed relationship with modernity. The more modern a country, the more lost the people feel. The commodification of everything makes us small and greedy, sucking the wonder out of the human experience. The broken link between us & nature, which is a spiritual crisis. He’s so darned impressive! Thank you for this!

[@vichyland4130]

Yes lots of interesting ideas that just flow in the conversation

[@mfaithart7029]

As an artist, English tutor and songwriter, these are all very important subjects for me. I have no fear about doing creative things, even in these deteriorating and increasingly demoralising times, because I know it’s what I was made to do. It’s so refreshing to hear you two articulate these observations of our culture so humbly yet eloquently. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@vichyland4130]

Thank you for your comments

[@parmafoi4066]

"Quietly do something creative" - that is exactly the point, thank you!

[@vichyland4130]

Yes I think so

[@monsterzokuonsomb]

If your looking for a great modern poet - check out Kate Tempest - great words/cool music.

[@vichyland4130]

Yes good call

[@thobraa]

Looking forward to this one! Dig listening to conversations with Paul. Thank you both!

[@vichyland4130]

Thanks, this was a fun one to do

[@johnirish1681]

If you want to understand who rules you and runs your life, study Jordan Maxwell people, and wake up.

[@santikim8134]

Please please take school out of home education in the UK - a few years back, fairly recently, the word school crept into the back door, one day when we were not home. It crept in the back door, after it’s journey from The Institute of the USA and when people slept it crept into their minds and those people repeated, repeated, repeated those words Home Schooling until every sleeping persons mind was contaminate with the words, the term, Home Schooling. Please, please, please take School out of Home Education, tell everyone, repeat, repeat, repeat, whilst we still have time to learn, before it is too late and we forget forever.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Get back substantive choice from God's free will, which government takes away for political choice of human will

[@michellegray3443]

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