Paul Levy presents Wetiko in conversation with Andrew Harvey

[@kristilindley7849]

Jesus spoke of "Wetiko" a couple thousand years ago, when He spoke of the devil, saying..."He was a liar and a murderer from the beginning..." John 8:44 Also, every generation for the last 2,000 years has believed THEY were the LAST GENERATION! Well, I discovered some Scriptures in the Bible, that inform us we still have around another 1,000 years, give or take, before the end of this world as we know it. It's rather long to explain, though clear as day when I show what I found, and hiding in plain sight too! But I did order two copies of Paul Levy's book, "Wetiko"...one for myself, plus a copy for one of my grown sons. Thank you for this interesting video. Keep trekking...into the mystic. kristi

[@OfTheSidhe]

Paul's work needs to go viral as it is the solution ! A brilliant man. I did the 12 Steps thoroughly and honestly and had a spiritual experience. I immediately woken up and started questioning EVERYTHING and seeing how things just did not make sense and on a quest for truth ever since.

[@taylorjanegreen1]

Oh my goodness, what an incredible revelatory conversation deeply penetrating into the meaning of all this. Thank you, Andrew for your intense and eloquent passion in general and in particular for putting across how important Paul’s book is. I am ordering it now. Thank you all!

[@kimparke6653]

Andrew and Paul, total gratitude for your brilliantly beautiful conversation 🙏 ❤.

[@user-tf4ho2uo1e]

This reminds me of Rudolf Steiner and how he'd describe the way that Ahriman and Lucifer influence human thoughts. When describing the politicians and military people who got Europe into WW1, he talked about how they'd make their decision in a dimmed state of consciousness.

[@troyselland6059]

Wetiko = Ahriman. As it feels to me. So interesting to feel in the heavy, sleepy, conventional astrality of places like the USA the presence of these two forces. Love the fact that humans like Paul have the clarity, awareness and consciousness to step back and observe this conditioned state of mass hysteria and insanity in self, others and en masse and to then, critically, choose differently. Truth. Freedom. Choice. Thanks for sharing this interesting information and interview. ❤

[@MelanieLichtinger]

This conversation is excellent, explains so much, and can help us be free from Wetiko's pervasive grip & traps. Thank you Paul and Andrew, for being the light showers!

[@deanmarquezjr9467]

I've notice that Wetiko attatches to people that have huge Ego's. So maybe we have to feed the Soul more than the Ego and win that war first within ourselves to defeat this entity.

[@umchinagirard1800]

Sounds like narcissistic or psychopath personality disorders but we not allowed 🚫 to mention NPD

[@MirageandReality]

Two days ago I asked ChatGPT about accusations of abuse about as many new age and spiritual groups as I could think of. It came back with (surface level) confirmation of this from every single one. I was raised in two cults… (it felt like) I almost died fighting the brainwashing out of my brain and it really did feel so much that I was facing evil itself. I thought it sounded exactly like Wetiko. Ive noticed that some of the most egotistical people on earth are in spiritual groups because it gives them idea of supreme soul level superiority over others. So I guess my question is, why on Earth is no one talking about Wetiko in the spiritual groups? How can it be fought if you don’t see it in your backyard? I desperately wish I could discuss this with Paul. To me it seems ridiculously urgent and I feel so stressed out that no one mentions it.

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

~As Castenadas Don Juan Said :DONT THINK. etc..

[@lightbeforethetunnel]

This Wetiko material is much more important than most realize. I'm trying to spread this information as much as possible, especially within the truther community, as it is essentially the root of most conspiracies.

[@christiedames4833]

Beautifully said. Our truth community is being devastated by Wetiko.

[@katherinekier]

Yes me too.

[@SoulSeeker42]

Mr.Andersons everywhere lol

[@umchinagirard1800]

Yes, break it down, to simple practical solutions, like stopping family bullying or family scapegoating

[@egoalter8745]

Same, but it's really difficult to present this idea to people. Even the most open minded people don't want to hear this. But who knows, maybe they do their own inner workings after hearing it. I would love to discuss it deeply with some one

[@suzannedaly7132]

Thank you .. so delighted to stumble upon this having studied Tibetan Buddhism a no of yrs ago with my then partner Tom. He died before l gave birth to our daughter. One of the events in my life that forced me to face my shadow and realise the nature of it all .. that clinging was the cause of all suffering. Look forward to reading these books as l continue on my journey .. what a time to be alive ❤️❤️❤️ lve learned to die over and over again already so lm ready .. if it comes to that 😎🙏❤️

[@sd-11-11-sd]

What a story and statement. God bless you Suzanne on your spiritual journey.

[@kathleenkarsten5739]

So beautifully put, Suzanne! Sending love and warm wishes your way as you continue on your journey. 🥰

[@christiedames4833]

Everything you are both saying so critical. Levy changed my life years ago with his first books. Those of us who have suffered through this are absolutely the ones needed right now because we do see it. Another wetiko happening and I'm hearing it here is around climate. The agenda driving that conversation with fear based rhetoric that we have caused it is not all true. Geoengineering in our skies for decades has caused the greatest part of weather issues. And the sun. Ben Davidson is a key driver for truth around what is going on in that space. Weather fascism is wetiko. So grateful for both of you here. Very powerful ! Thank you. Already got the book cuz we were waiting for it for a year :-)

[@Innerdiamond]

I just found your video. You recount your awakening experience through dream-time and spiritual practice, which is also how I discovered the virus of mind infecting me with false narratives about myself. My decades of awakening...of spiritual alignment and integration, of breaking the spell of delusion into whole self wellbeing and service to the soul of humanity. I wrote about this years ago, but unknowing about you. Self observation and dispassionate awareness of the outer world is necessary to reveal the I AM. This is a process that can be duplicated. Humans fine tune your instrument!

[@asharadaynedragonblood1803]

Goddess...I am so glad I found this! It so reminds me of the Nez Perce Legend of the Black and White Lodge from the series Twin Peaks. And also 'The Nothing' in Michael Endes The Neverending Story also pictures what it is being said here. I ordered the book and I am so excited to read it!

[@kimparke6653]

Acts of compassion bring ❤ heaven ❤ to 🌎 earth.

[@SiriusB592]

This information is huge. Is there a therapeutic platform within which to spread the message? Psychotherapy? Shamanism? Ok having watched further it’s simply a case of awakening to this within ourselves then bringing that awakening into everything we do… That I guess is the ultimate practice.

[@claresimons9942]

Two great souls and minds collide in perfect harmony. 🙏🏼

[@lisamay464]

I asked for help and help was given. Thanks guys. I know the interview is 2 years old but there's no such thing as time anyway. It makes so much sense and I now understand on a deeper level what my practice of therapeutic shamanism has been about as why I struggle to stay connected. I was ready to hear and see. 🌻

[@alenagoddess2400]

Wetiko sounds a lot like narcissism in which most psychiatrists think there is no cure. I'm wondering what you think about psilocybin therapy as a solution to this and many other issues?

[@TheresFuckeryAfoot]

Yeah, I think personality disorders/sociopathy is modern psychology’s version of wetiko. It doesn’t encapsulate the whole of wetiko but it covers some of the behaviors.

[@denisefalcon4748]

There is no modern day illnesses. Wetiko has been the same virus for thousands of years.

[@MirageandReality]

Two days ago I asked ChatGPT about accusations of abuse about as many new age and spiritual groups as I could think of. It came back with (surface level) confirmation of this from every single one. I was raised in two cults… (it felt like) I almost died fighting the brainwashing out of my brain and it really did feel so much that I was facing evil itself. I thought it sounded exactly like Wetiko. Ive notices that some of the most egotistical people on earth are in spiritual groups because it gives them idea of supreme soul level superiority over others. So I guess my question is, why on Earth is no one talking about Wetiko in the spiritual groups? How can it be fought if you don’t see it in your backyard? I desperately wish I could discuss this with Paul. To me it seems ridiculously urgent and I feel so stressed out that no one mentions it.

[@Maxinator11-11]

Yes!

[@irishkate6464]

Those groups that are like that are not spiritual. They are harvesters of the vulnerable. Yes, the sheep have to spot the wolf in time before getting eaten. Egos are everywhere in places of higher archy and authority. Droves are leaving the police force because of that problem. Bullying, injustice and narcissism. It's mostly in marriages with domestic violence too. But still, women queuing up at the altar to enter into a commitment with someone who may eventually kill her, but she doesn't know it. She is blind to it. It will provide her with an awakening though and she may get stronger from it, unless he dominates her. So those in cults may be needing their eyes opened to the wolves out there and those who escaped may need to be the ones to speak up about it publicly to warn others?

[@colleenkaralee2280]

It took me hundreds of hours of excellent therapy to finally move from a sub-human condition to feeling human in this dual universe. It felt so good to just feel human, and now I realize there is a condition of "Above Human" worth aspiring to...A totally voluntary unlimited being.

[@Itslewieo]

infinite intelligence , source energy

[@maryannsorensenallacci540]

What an amazing discussion - they are somehow able to connect so many different concepts in a deeply humble and understandable communication.

[@reneeleuther7937]

I see so much of Jung in Levy... Powerful information, powerful teachings! I wish these teachings were included in school curriculums. I could really 'feel' your passionate guidance through your words from page to page!

[@nadeeshauduporuwa3831]

Currently reading Dispelling Wetiko and stumbled upon this video while searching about Paul Levy. I was mesmerised how little information was out there when it should have been out in the open in massive proportions. Glad to know he decided to write another book. Excited to tead the new one once I'm done with the current one.

[@RyanZakMusic]

Beautiful presentation. Thank you. Will be ordering the book.

[@cinemm6319]

My name is Ira Emmons. I'm on my wife's you tube. I'm in the Experience as well. The things your talking about have and are happing to me. Thank you for sharing with me and the world.

[@katherinekier]

Paul’s work has changed my life in more ways than one. I’m so grateful, and I’m deepening my studies so as to share more of this knowledge.

[@patriciaching100]

I love the thought of the reciprocal self... It makes it so clear the art of what you are seeing is so important. Thank you for the interview.

[@susanliebermann5721]

Wonderful conversation! Thanks so much for hosting these two luminaries! Eagerly awaiting my copy in the mail!

[@areaone3813]

This topic struck me in many ways and has instantly brought connections I would have never made.

[@wendylcosta5678]

Wetiko = woke movement and the reversal of all things created by nature, but necessary for our human development in this age of the kali yuga... Wetiko is the fallen angel and like Rudolf Steiner said it is the human condition to balance the dark forces within us and around us.

[@melanyoliver]

I love Paul! His work changed my life!!

[@mechanikapodsoznania]

Очень полезное видео. Благодарю авторов.

[@cathimorgan]

Thanks lads, keep up the good work

[@jenniferarnold-delgado3489]

Mass formation psychosis / Mattias Desmet - is good to look into .

[@brownsuitcase]

Great guys thanks. But what can I do practically against wetiko . I need practical tools

[@d1sc0rd1an8]

Be mindful , watch your thoughts, what narrative is guiding you and is it a choice that’s interests serving you best

[@umchinagirard1800]

Look out for vulnerable family scapegoat children and try to support their parents to stop being them

[@vonkriktonite838]

More relevant now than ever.

[@jagadishsubedi9363]

great conversation love from Nepal

[@beyondher]

The community could be called ‘awakening in the nightmare’ - I think that a collective nightmare is a better description of what we’re currently witnessing on planet earth. I pray that the 1% who rule this earth will wake up first!

[@francisberinger1312]

I’d had the suggestion of looking into the Wetiko by my mother. Many people today are focusing on what I could describe as the amorphous shape of an emerging totalitarianism - more so now over the events of the past two years, others over the last decade in a so called “culture war”, and some even beyond these contemporary times. I mean “amorphous totalitarianism” as I’ve understood from the standpoint of psychology and political theory, which is the basis of my comprehension and recognition of it. My mothers perspective I’d describe as from a view informed by more esoteric philosophy and psychological understanding. I’ve spoken to some who were out-and-out “witches”, others in the purely sociological or natural scientific, some too purely from their political and ideological perspectives. It seems that those all these disparate lenses in which their interpretation of the world is formed - we are all looking at the same thing. Perhaps only segments of it in a broad unknowingly interconnected tapestry of abstract concepts, we are recognising something yet undefinable. My experience, seeing the cross over between groups and this singular recognition, and the reaction from those who do not yet recognise this thing (dejection and to be disabused) seems like the emergence of a new awareness of a potentially shared unity in perspective on humanity itself.

[@prince_ofmadness]

What you talking about it seems like a living hell trying to kill you in your dreams thats what it is

[@gypsygirlnz1]

Brilliant

[@jenniferarnold-delgado3489]

in dream theory , its really difficult to do but every single part of the dream is you , you are the witch chasing you , you are running in the mud , you are the mud , and you are the arm reaching out to pull you out of the mud . You are all the parts . So in the Wetico , WE are the monster , WE are the IT , and We are the Co operative functionality . On another Paul Levy vid , someone commented about Neville Goddard's work . Look , just like a chess board is not only black and white squares , but the pieces , there are two sides that then will do battle. But both sides are complete , equal and balanced . So inside of the confusion , the Memory Platform , or memory code chip , or dance floor , if you want to look it that way , the construct of it must be the same amount of necessary story to actuate its counter part .

[@joelchihandw7674]

The word 'humble' is misunderstood. Most think humility seems to be subservient or meekness in behavior, attitude, or spirit. On the other hand, to be awakened might include engaging in war. I say we must be humble to the truth, whatever that means. But that does not suggest meekness or aggression.. In all systems, the notions of light and dark to a greater or lesser degree realize that meaningful change comes with the ability to know what light/dark is to our own evolution. To break through into 'awakening,' It is not all sweetness, we have the notions of Ring Kaos, and Ring Cosmos, Good/ bad, Light/Dark etc. We must face the discord first to awaken within what is next. Lastly, Don't make an idea into a 'thing.' The moment you define it, you lose it's essence. Learn to 'hear.'

[@jmiskinis]

I just noticed that you will be appearing on the Coast to Coast AM radio show in a few hours. Best Wishes, and thanks for donating your time as an unpaid guest on the show. I am not familiar at this time with what you have produced, and I just became aware of this video on KZbin. Thanks for sharing the video, _John_ :)

[@jenniferarnold-delgado3489]

Look , lets say there is geo engineering - seeding the rain fall . Its being done or not , doesn't matter but we are talking about it . We NEED to talk about the rain fall , about the water fall , about the water management . We MAY need to actually do some management , but with a more rational focus , not to turn the water sprinklers on the lawns being grown in the desert , but - whatever . So the Wetico situation is allowing the PERCEPTION to expand and grow , and then become legitimately consciously observed .

[@davidpyle7673]

"Wetiko" is the unwittingly, inadvertent, and unconscious effect of the illusion/delusion of what is our seeming separation from God/All that Is/Whatever. Cause/Effect. We are Forever an effect of that Cause. And that Cause and Effect are one, not two. It is the Nature of that Oneness as a closed, causal, circular, cyclical, feedback system that is found and known the basic pattern and process that is at the base and basis of Creation -- beginning in, with, and as Consciouness , itself -- and that it in-forms and in-fuses everything and everyone in infinite and myriad ways. It is our need to know ("Gnostic"-ally-speaking) and experience that -- and that we are that and in That -- is both problem and its solution.

[@swingarmer]

I thought it was Craig/Kyle Dunnigan foe a minute there. Good talk guys.

[@itsquitntimeisrael6519]

What is happening presently is that a WETIKO society has started to eat itself. To save us all, we need an EMERGENCY section & refraining.

[@svenkersten4465]

what about the buddhist techniques chö ?

[@werdru6258]

it's a cycle, we've been here before, we'll be here again. A few get off, the rest go round and round.

[@UnKnown-nq5hj]

Evil, mean, cruel, uncaring people is wetiko

[@pambowling6561]

What we see now is Wetiko coming to the forefront, it appears as chaos, when it is actually a re-ordering. We changed the future, now we must go back to correct the past in order to move into this new future. What is to be in the future has the potential of already having happened and we are simply writing the story of how we got there. Don't leave out in your idea of what is being created that the energy humans sit is right now is something we have never been in, the Earth has in a time when humans were not here yet. More and more people are awakening and remembering the divine power we have within us.

[@umchinagirard1800]

Family scapegoating behaviour patterns are wetiko

[@aresmars2003]

Wiccan Starhawk talks about "grounding" in her practice, and I think what she means is the human mind has unlimited ability for self-deception, so truth must come up through the body, and through the earth itself, the ground, is what we need to stay "embodied" as souls on earth.

[@darylmillard2897]

Can you let go of Wetiko? I'm wrestling this at the moment. Like if I let it go,someone else will have to take up the wrestle.

[@ludwigsmith7190]

It's not in everyone, it's in certain groups. It shows itself when one is near baseline or has to separate from the materialistic wants and needs. Some groups can be at peace with having a connection with the ether but certain groups cannot and need tangible evidence of their existence, when threatened to go without ? the real being is revealed! they are Wetiko and not the other way around.

[@majorawol]

Yo, are you serious? That was the answer in the face of the injektions? We have clear cut evil horror out of biblical Moloch child sacrifice proportions in front of us. Don't you see Wetiko yet YOU'VE WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT IT? Well gawd dang.

[@zkeesh1]

It comes down to social status

[@prince_ofmadness]

This wetiko trying to kill me man i be screaming at tbe top of my lungs to wake up and it just shows me another reality you cant beat wetiko its to powerful to crafty it knows all your fears and desires and it uses it against you the work or demons for sure when i screamed for jesus it just showed me another dream that i thought was real

[@dmcfence]

Wetiko-Archon-Ego-Alien Parasites, ect..... maybe its all the same and everything is vibration by any name ;)

[@Gieszkanne]

Castaneda called them shadow beeings.

[@hamiltonsarain9608]

I think 'angra mainyu' of the Zoroastrian tradition is close to the concept of wetiko. The opposite of 'angra mainyu' is 'spenta mainyu' and both terns have the word 'mainyu' in common. One must learn to recognize 'angra mainyu', both within and "out there", in order to open up to that "progressive mentality" and be a creative agent of Asha through the 'vohu manah'.

[@garnetmclearyprice8896]

I first of wetiko from david icke

[@bobeden5027]

What Paul calls Wetiko, I call "The Gift of Depression".

[@helenbostock2350]

Yes your words cut through the silence of shadow. Do you teach this to medical wards in hospitals of people have been labelled as mad. Compaction are service is the way.

[@youliantroyanov2941]

Paul ftw

[@drrbrt]

Jesus called it Mammon and described it as the antithesis of God and the Good. An accurate modern translation of Wetiko is addiction capitalism.

[@q.t.gamingfamily]

🙄. Imagine, evil as a medical diagnosis. Well, whatever works.

[@benyahudadavidl]

Perhaps you are unaware that they are describing white people and their cousins. They are wetiko. Why do you think that white people don't like the truth. They literally stole everything they have from Black people and proudly call it their own. Even today they live off the cultural heritage and talents of Black people. How many people know that without the participation of Black people in D1 football and Basketball, no other sports programs would be possible. And it is not a coincidence that these two sports require at least one year of college play. Notice even good white people's goodness never extends to them demanding that white people return everything they stole from Black people. Wetiko is real.

[@tpmash]

Yip schizophrenia is a medical diagnosis too, I mean

[@unexpecttheexpected5966]

Chuck sent me

[@ineedstuff8286]

Harvey is doing the climate thing?.. im outta here... he should watch a film called frankenskies

[@ineedstuff8286]

the monsters full of wetiko... modify weather, so they can convince YOU to give up your stuff. Doesnt that sound EXACTLY like the kind of thing the puppetmasters would do?.. i mean cmon. These poliicians are absolutely flaccid, docile bags of nothing... they are 100% controlled

[@geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz]

Is that wetiko when they don't show how many disliked this? Probably.

[@pamrogers4351]

You successfully freaked me out and given me hope at the same time. I agree the field of psychiatry can be destructive and trauma seems to underlie most psychiatric conditions and yet seems to be ignored by psychiatrists, presumably because we have no medications for it. As a trauma therapist, I run into that all the time. I use spiritual principals where I can to help my clients, and could use them more. I like the idea of spiritual activism, as I am both a therapist and an activist since 2016, when the Wetigo was elected president in America. Or Loki. Whatever. It's one of those blessings that spends a great deal of time in disguise and makes you miserable enough that you make a great change. Or not.

[@jenniferarnold-delgado3489]

The night time dreams are the biological body's way of offering to us a memory platform upon which we can then structure actions in a situation where previously we FELT we had no options . The day time dreams are the way to create a memory platform upon which we can then structure solutions and take actions in a situation where previously we FEEL we have no options . Understanding that a STORY needs to event , so as to be able to structure on it , and that the creation of that story is being done by someone somewhere and somehow . At this point , the collective is structuring a story upon which an action can be taken . This is based on Bowlby's theory that Food , Rest , and caring guidance is necessary for the childs identity to feel safe enough to self structure . If those three components are in anyway destabilized and controlled with conditions , the biological body will create a separate identity to MIRROR the dominating system , Personality , or contracted relationship ( Parent , lover , child , boss , leader , teacher ) so as to best be able to wrestle with and hopefully wrest back the control of those three components - food , rest, and caring guidance . Now , a step apart from bilogical body and identity , and now its survival and ego , and beyond that to actual human social structure and nature / earth . I think that Mr Levy is a hero .

[@TheWayofFairness]

I refuse to surrender to the God Wetiko and so it threatens to kill me. It has its servants everywhere. If everyone became good and stopped harming others the ego driven God Wetiko would have to surrender its ego also and also stop harming others. Wetiko wants me to shut up. LOL Wetiko needs my help but first Wetiko must surrender.

[@prince_ofmadness]

Its trying to fucking kill me to exhaust me scare me and attack me it wont let me wake up it has a power over you that you just cant quite fully percive an all powerful coward forsure it wont fight me in the physical reality where i have the control because that would be its worst nightmare

[@conniejohnson6760]

I hope next time, youuuuu let them describe what the topic would be instead of letting them sit in front of the camera while your introduction is sooooooooooo long. I feel this is rude. You shouldn't keep on talking and talking especially in the introduction. They should be the one talking. I really enjoyed this topic. Thank you.

[@aresmars2003]

Really a great discussion, but you almost need to direct people to specific examples, BOTH examples where you are SURE other people are delusional, and examples where you AGREE and don't realize you have fallen into a collective delusion. Seeing things from multiple points of view has been the only tool I've found to catch myself at all, and even then I easily fall back into "belief" because it simplifies "reality" enough that I'm willing to act in the world and not just cower in uncertainty what IS.

[@aresmars2003]

One author John Michael Greer characterized the New Ager movement like this: He said "The New Age started with a powerful question 'What if we created our own reality?' and over time they just dropped the 'What if?'" There's FAIR logic that says we do "create our own reality", but only if we mean that our perceptions are a "false reality" we've created to avoid anxiety about a larger reality we're not mature enough to acknowledge. If we remember partly we are all "scared little monkeys" that is useful. Much of what we "create" are defenses that limit what we can see.

[@bobeden5027]

for me Wetiko just translates to the condition known as DEEPression! I found my cure within the Gift of Depression.

[@urbanwarchief]

Witiko is hungry

[@michepatrick]

How is it that the Indigenous origin of the concept and actual word "wetiko" was not even mentioned, let alone discussed... a clear example of European colonialist insatiable greed. Just sayin'

[@catayaloves]

consider doing less Aya and go sit a vipassana

[@dogkill7466]

You folks sure have an active imagination

[@weird_awakening9434]

Watch the show Evil. AI wetiko.