Paul Vunak Former Students Testimony

This audio and video is from his former students.

[@pathseeker5426]

It pains me to write this comment, but I’m afraid this is how things go in PFS. I was an instructor in PFS for many years and have watched many people who were put into leadership positions come and go. In just the last few years I have seen talented people like Roy Harris, Bob Giambrone, Monty Hendrix, Harinder Singh, Darrell Thompson, Bruce Corrigan, Pedro Rodriguez, etc. all get be subjected to the kind of behavior that is exhibited in this video. Initially all of them really tried to help Vu, but in time he would find (or create) something to hold against them and eventually run them off. I hate writing anything about this because I really loved the training I did with Vu back in the day. He was always very kind to me and my family, however, I watched him become paranoid and react in very strange ways toward others. I came to discover that he has a real Jekyll and Hyde aspect to his personality. In the early 90s, PFS had some really amazing practitioners and teachers. While many other JKD practitioners were busy doing the seminars circuit and writing down excessive notes about different forms of Silat, the PFS guys were full contact sparring and introducing hardcore grappling to their students. In time things naturally change, but things seemed to dramatically change every 5 - 10 years in PFS. All would be going great in the organization, but the process would begin with Vu would start ranting about how someone was ripping him off and call up all his guys to go after the alleged ‘offending party.’ After things cooled down, the process would start over with Vu letting everyone know that he was revamping the company and rolling out some new ‘cutting edge’ programs, which was really the same material rebranded (Vu is a genius at rebranding and reinvention). It appears that the older Vu gets, the 5 - 10-year time frame is shortening to one year. In his prime, Vu was one of the best martial arts teachers I have ever met. His physical skills were amazing and his ability to quickly impart that knowledge to others was incredible. What I learned in PFS still forms the core of what I do in the martial arts. I really miss my old friends and the feeling of camaraderie that I briefly experienced there in PFS. Many of the senior PFS people have moved on to do their own thing or have just disappeared. I miss the feeling of family that there used to be in PFS and I hate what has become of the organization. I have even heard that even Vu’s longest student and partner, Tom Cruse, has also left the organization he co-founded and moved back to Ohio. I do hope Vu gets some help because I really do feel he is suffering with some serious mental health issues. He has much to offer others if his demons do not continue to dominate him.

[@zibtihaj3213]

So you think cocaine has made him paranoid . ? (. He really is on one or many things - the way he looks now …. That conclusion is a no brainer. )

[@pathseeker5426]

@@zibtihaj3213 I can't say whether the erratic behavior was specifically due to his past drug use. He may also have TBI issues from some of the fights he has been in. He once told me that he ended up in the ICU after a bad fight he had in Virginia Beach. I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs.

[@jayputo9735]

It’s all drugs man, I respect sifu Vunak a whole lot, my sifu I have now would speak stories of sifu Paul. Great guy just too much drugs and trouble.

[@zibtihaj3213]

@@jayputo9735 is it true that he is not homeless ? where is he ? so sad

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. This proves why I am posting this audio recording of VU. He had victimized many people, including me. But with Jon, he cross the line because Jon is not scared of him. This is the first time people shows who Vunak really is. with all of the harassment and verbal abuse, clearly he is not a person to gain respect as a teacher, Sifu or descendant of Bruce Lee. Unfortunately he still gets Idiot followers that thinks this kind of behavior is acceptable. I still have many recording from former partners and student, even recent messages. I received many direct messages regarding how Vu harass, and took advantage of them. He is lay lowing, and I will wait.

[@superstrangevideo]

And where is Vunak's reply? There are always two sides to every story.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

BULL S. You listen to all the videos I post. That is all HIS.. No two sides here.

[@stefanostefano6439]

Years ago in the 90’, one of the European Top Instructors of PFS was in US and felt really sick, Vunak insisted to bring him to the hospital and when the time to pay the bill arrived, well, Vunak paid the bill for that Instructor; perhaps how the kindness of heart relate strictly to be a street fighter??? How could someone say to a single man:” I got wife and kids and you got only your dogs! did you… your dogs???” And how could someone talk like this to any instructor no matter which subject teach??? Note: I’m not related to PFS or Jeet Kune Do in any way, I just dropped here. This is way better than any Batman movies although, thank you so much for posting! “You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.”-Malcolm S. Forbes.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Did you even hear how he talk to him.. You are such a tool. Vunak does not care of you, until he uses you and until you say no. Then you will get this same similar Harassment. Wait until I said so..

[@sonyrostov3514]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 ​You must live in the Ivory Tower my friend, for an American employer is pretty average to consider employees less than a number, only difference Si-Gung Paul Vunak is a genuine gentleman of another breed whom doesn’t have the phony Human Resources taking “care” of his employees; if you want to bring him to the stake you should really consider how you and your friends are behaving with your employees, with women and disabled people and children. Merry Christmas.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

@@sonyrostov3514 "Genuine gentlemen of another breed" Hahahha CAN SOMEONE TELL THIS IDIOT WHAT IS GOING ON... Holy Crap, Vunak really still get followers...

[@terrencemuto6919]

@@sonyrostov3514 What the F are you smoking

[@stefanoklondike]

The simple fact that you can openly call SonyR Idiot without being censored by KZbin….hahaha 😂 the artificial intelligence of KZbin must have personally verified SonyR is a guaranteed Idiot of prime quality (satisfied or refunded) 😂😂😂

[@LACADIO]

It’s all come out now. Everything you said is true, it’s to bad that people have to go thru this that just wanted to train honestly

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

It is not Vunaks fault is those idiots still helping him like that dude named Kuya Ricky. There is a big story coming out.

[@mangoMango-ck3et]

its a sad ending,,,to Paul Vunak,,,when all his early tution videos showed the World his enthusiasum,,and passion for JKD,,etc...sorry Holger Thomas for your experience,,,a sad ending to a well known JKD .Progresssive System Instructor...now its all about money and survival in a trailer park....really sad and pathetic...great video for future potential students...give up going to Paul Vunak,,just train yourself...find a current local Coach..

[@ronisworld2916]

this is sad.

[@zibtihaj3213]

But he is a very good teacher / Sifu / coach / fighter - he is just very eccentric. Is that fair to say ?

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

I can understand, specially if all your interactions with him his Videos, may be a few seminars. But once you know him and be more attached you will know.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

He is not Eccentric. Remember he does not have friends that stick with him. We all decided he is not a good person to be associated with.

[@HAVOCJKD]

*was

[@pinoyjohntn]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 look back to the 90s all the top people that were with him left the pattern repeats

[@matthews2157]

It's sad, because it is a good system. but very hard to find a good teacher the good ones get out of the organization and the others try to imitate him.

[@The_Vols_Eye]

You are supposed to call your teacher “sifu” in wing Chun and jeet kune do

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Vunak is NOT a Sifu. He depicts the meaning of a teacher. He is an Addict and mentally ill. You yahoos only knows him on his videos or seminars. when you get close to him he will take advantage of you. He has many enemies, believe it or not he is Done.

[@boloisdaman]

Dude sounded medicated. Anyway, demanding being called sifu is silly but not that unusual.

[@pinoyjohntn]

Heard a similar story several years back from someone that went over there to train it was Tom cruse doing the teaching and vunak just popped in for a minutes.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

It’s no longer a story. People are slowly coming out. I have so many message about their experiences, how Vunak got Mad because of a suggestion.. I ask them to forward me any recording. People need to know.

[@Alias1983]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 I got a story for you.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

@@Alias1983 Still waiting for that Story Bro...

[@Alias1983]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 2011 I contacted paul. He eventually called me back. He agreed to have me come train. I asked for his email and he said he didn't know how to use a computer at all. Seriously? Anyway I got my airline ticket. Called him to let him know. He called back 6am. Woke me up and we talked briefly. I forgot to ask for his address. So I called him the next day, left a message on his voicemail. He didn't respond. I got an airline ticket for nothing.

[@alexscott730]

@@Alias1983 lol....sounds like you got catfished by Paul.......Maybe he didn't like your vibe?..He's all about "vibes" and "frequencies"...lol

[@Alias1983]

Okay. Take John Kreese and Terry Silver. Combine those two together and you get Paul Vunak.

[@terrencemuto6919]

Bull The F S !! At least this actors have integrity and do honest living. Vunak is a scammer and his PFS is Old. Only new people believe his S works. Why do you think we left. Until now he still harass and scam his student. Ask Pedro!

[@eddard9442]

Bahahahahaha

[@eddard9442]

Who is the like Daniel Larusso and Johnny Lawrence?

[@Alias1983]

@@eddard9442 Um... I'd say harinder singh is daniel and johnny combined.

[@dposting2941]

The first one: with paul. The sifu, master, sensei thing is part of the student-teacher dynamic in traditional martial arts. Its about more than respect, its part of discipline and, in my experience, necessary. For the same reason in the military you adress an officer by rank or sir or ma'am. Also if they called angrily or aggressively complaining, expect the same tone back. It would be good to gear what the website complainers call actually sounded like. The 2nd guy: with the customer on that. Sounds like vanuk needs a business manager with task-master skills, and in the meanwhile a gamble to take the class. Bait-and-switch never cool, wether martial arts or paying for a PhD professor at college and being taught by his/her T.A. who's a 1st year master's student.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

You fucking smoking DOPE! What the hell are you saying.. Vunak is a dumbass that is why most of his instructor leaves. The only one left are the dumbasses also..

[@MelvinPalmer]

Sorry to hear these complainants. I had him pictured as a stand guy.

[@stevenstern2199]

He is. I have trained with him a few times. Humble Badass

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

@@stevenstern2199 Yeah you are one of those. Stay there. Do not contact him or help him or else you will experience what some of this guys had experienced helping Vunak.

[@stevenstern2199]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 nothing but professional and outstanding training I have from him.

[@nitai154]

A REAL SHIFU according to Chinese way… he has to be knowledgeable in healing arts like TCM/Accupuncture/Tui Na-Anmo.. along with the Martial Aspects. Anyone who doesn’t know the full qualifications are called COACH!

[@nicholaspolitis9048]

Sour grapes to students that cannot take it. As far as the student from Germany If indeed he was promised training from Vunak, and did not get it then a mix up He got his money back but unfortunate

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

According to him.. Vunak still owes him money. Vunak will never pay.

[@apostlestevenl.williams5384]

I called Paul vunak grandmaster he said not to call him that!

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

He is NOT even worth calling at all. He does not have any credibility. Even his instructors take advantage of his dumb stupid business. Look at his FB Channel, all sort of people posting to promote their own interest - No Vunak. If you are in PFS You are Stupid. STAY AWAY From Vunak.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

***UPDATE*** Vunak is currently on a sober living. His current video from a live FB post looks very pale, skinny and sick. Where will he ends up next??

[@MrBastilleDay]

Even though I’ve had my issues with some of his philosophy, you never hear about Matt Thornton behaving like this.

[@johnlew7481]

Matt doesn’t have to issues that vunak has had. Most of these problems vunak has he’s been doing for a long time.

[@jaybone4732]

Matt could be considered the father of modern MMA given his coaching background. He saw through the JKD cult of personality and the flaws in training methods. This gave birth to SBG's rise from a JKD school to one of the leading pioneers of MMA. Thornton is an intellectual, Voo is still, sadly though, the street kid from LA.

[@al1665]

Whatever he did, I like his training videos. Specially the kino mutai stuff. I'd learn from the videos but go train with someone else BJJ and Kali.

[@davidtice4972]

Paul wanted me to send him one thousand dollars. When I refused he put a hit out on me.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

When was this?

[@karlbeyleveld3399]

Really dumb-dumb? And how much did the "hit on you" cost? Surely more than 1K. Ridiculous.

[@davidtice4972]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 A few years ago.

[@apostlestevenl.williams5384]

I blocked him.Not paying 1000 for a few days of training!

[@davidtice4972]

@apostlestevenl.williams5384 I was there when he charged a guy one thousand eight hundred dollars for two days of training. Plus the guy had to pay for a hotel and food and his flight from the east coast.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

UPDATE: Recent Webinar by Vunak. Did not go well. It is viewed via Zoom, why in the world people still used zoom specially for some thing paid webinar. It only shows Vunak is not smart and probably hiring his students again that are not smart and have no business or technology knowledge and you know how will that end - Harassment and Threats. Remember to call me when that happens.

[@thanevakarian9762]

Part of me wants to be mad people for falling for this stuff but the other half of me just feels bad. If you can’t find a good friendly mma gym, try to do wrestling and boxing classes. Please people stay away from these gurus and sifus and mcdojos.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Totally Agree..

[@TheSubwaysurfer]

I don’t know how anybody else feels but he’s absolutely right I can’t imagine calling up my SIFU Calling him” Ralph” I’ve never even used his first name along with the title when I address is not proper respect

[@terrencemuto6919]

You dont even know the story. This person Vunak left a message was a new student, new in martial arts, and came to see for his one on one training. Vunak is that kind of a person, one side nice but turn around he is worsts than the devil.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

This Dude was new in Martial Arts and wanted to learn PFS. No automatic assumption you need to call someone that. And I believe Vunak even said on their conversation just call me Paul.

[@josephesposito3499]

@@terrencemuto6919 Could it be Pauls supposed crack or meth problem?

[@josephesposito3499]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 Not to gossip, but did Paul have an issue with crack or meth?

[@mangoMango-ck3et]

its funny,,,I stopped Kyokusin Karate,,years and years ago,,,If I see my Sensei out shopping,,,I still say hello Sensei,,20 years later,,,,,I just automatically say it,,,can't even remember his real name....how weird us students are haha..

[@stevemarce1988]

😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@robertmitchel2194]

Paul's absolutely right, tho.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Hahahaha trolling around. I like it. You are as Dumb and Stupid as Vunak. You condone this behavior. Real Martial artist wont even see this as right. FAT Turd!

[@robertmitchel2194]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 You said everything in that reply.

[@theayatollahofrockandrollah]

I've already always been a huge fan of Paul, but now that I've heard him tell people who tried to backdoor his partner to go fuck themselves, I love the guy even more

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

I think you condoning a psychopath. Vunak is a Bitch and uses litle bitches you to harass former student and business partners. You have no Idea who Vunak is.

[@ThepurposeofTime]

😂 he sounds very old school

[@davidwayne9982]

Sounds like he needs his ass kicked--- unfortunatley-- I don't know many that are capable of DOING IT... I damn sure ain't.. I'm too old, and in too bad shape...I've seen Paul take people that were in EXCELLENT condtion and thought they were the BEST-- get their butts handed to them by him!! BUT- he still needs it sometimes, if someone is capable.. of course he's getting old now too!!!

[@robertmitchel2194]

Throwing hands with Vu sounds like a very effective method of suicide.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Bulll the F S!! Vunak is Done, Did you see his last webinars He look pathetic. @@robertmitchel2194

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Yeah is getting his ass kicked alright! NO HOUSE, BANNED TO OWN PETS, RESTRAINING ORDERS, DUI and lastly Begging for Money. He is not the same Vunak. Ask Pedro!

[@davidwayne9982]

@@pfsmasterpaul7289 I haven't kept up with him-- and didn't know he'd change so much-- looks like heck- and is an ass to boot!!

[@YOURMOMCALLSME]

I just earned that much more respect for Paul. That was f*cn hilarious 😂 😃 😄

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

You are such an IDI0T. Condoning what is wrong.

[@DimMak74]

​@@pfsmasterpaul7289 Another princess moment....... there are levels of hierarchy in martial arts traditions.......

[@davidtice4972]

Right now Paul Vunak is homeless. He was kicked out of the trailer park and had his dogs taken away from him.

[@bobfromdenison]

😥

[@pathseeker5426]

That is so sad. Vu has destroyed so many good things in his life. I think there are just a handful of people left in PFS who are trying to help him. It seems that every time someone tries to help Vu he turns on them in the end. PFS could have been something truly special, but at this point it seems like it is destined for disintegration. Too bad.

[@davidtice4972]

@@pathseeker5426 Vunak sold away the trademark name of PFS. He doesn't own it anymore.

[@pathseeker5426]

@@davidtice4972 Wow. I did not know that. Did one of his students buy the trademark name? He must have really needed the money for him sell the trademark name.

[@davidtice4972]

@@pathseeker5426 I'll find out his name. He makes KZbin commercials.

[@alexscott730]

Paul's smoking weed and listening to Neil Young....lol

[@JohnnyDanger36963]

Masterbaiter Paul is jealous.

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

hahaha. That is what you think?? Where is he now ass munch. How come you dont see him living like a king, or having a great life. He is NOW paying for his sins. Hahaha I live better than that Turd.

[@Cletus_the_Elder]

boo f'ing hoo

[@pfsmasterpaul7289]

Lol.. I gues you are one of those dumb asses that loves Vunak.