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9x19 FMJ Is All Ammo Created Equal?

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Paul Harrell

Paul Harrell

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Paul tests different 9mm FMJ ammo against each other.
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@surfingonmars8979
@surfingonmars8979 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever PH says, “this is the boring part where I talk a lot,” or, “this will be a little dry,” I say, “OH YEAH! Science and data and measurements!” And I know I am not alone. The man delivers the data and we all learn from it while sipping coffee in the kitchen, or a Diet Coke in some other equally comfy location. Thank you, sir.
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 3 жыл бұрын
The artificial sweeteners in diet sodas are worse for you than regular sodas. Best to avoid soda, period.
@Gizmomaster
@Gizmomaster 3 жыл бұрын
I’m drinking Diet Coke and scotch my man!! Gotta keep those calories down!
@tysontomko
@tysontomko 3 жыл бұрын
As a certified dental assistant he disliked the soda comment lol
@vincedibona4687
@vincedibona4687 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer chocolate milk, thank you. :D
@KoshN
@KoshN 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_Bee I drink regular soda (very rarely anything with phosphoric acid, like Coke anymore), e.g. 7Up or other lemon-lime varieties, root beer or ginger ale (preferring Canada Dry BOLD when I can find it), or regular Gatorade Orange, sparingly, or Bubly.
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
I walked up to the counter at the gun store and asked to see the Berreta 92fs chambered in 9x19, while wearing an old Sears hunting coat. The man said, so you watch Paul Harrell too huh?
@jameschristiansson3137
@jameschristiansson3137 3 жыл бұрын
Are you what we call a professional?
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameschristiansson3137 I guess you could call me one, because I hit my target 60% of the time, every time.
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameschristiansson3137 edit: You be the judge.
@davidw835
@davidw835 3 жыл бұрын
I usually start my conversations with, please bear with gun fire and your experiences and your training may be different.
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidw835 And pardon my Shatner - esque pauses.
@samuel61762
@samuel61762 3 жыл бұрын
I see a new Paul Harrell notification and I rush to KZbin faster than a Remington Green-and-White Box 9x19 115 Grain Full Metal Jacket Round Nose through a chronograph.
@calangel
@calangel 3 жыл бұрын
Speer calls the load "Lawman" because it's designed for use in indoor LEO ranges by having a completely copper encapsulated slug (TMJ) to limit lead exposure. It's also hotter, to mimic LEO service loads.
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 3 жыл бұрын
They really punch through wood ,I did a video on the 357 Sig lawman, 357 Sig TMJ
@9mmpeter255
@9mmpeter255 3 жыл бұрын
Sure it is
@vinceblasco
@vinceblasco 3 жыл бұрын
That confirms my experience with S&B ammo: generally loaded a bit hotter, with good accuracy and consistency.
@CannaCJ
@CannaCJ 3 жыл бұрын
They do it right in the Czech Republic. Never had an issue with S&B, they duplicate the specs of older rounds well.
@karel3183
@karel3183 3 жыл бұрын
Seems that way. I use S&B and they seem way stronger than my own minimal handload. I wonder, is it safe to use with a silencer if the manual says not to use hotter ammo?
@jimbienkowski7857
@jimbienkowski7857 3 жыл бұрын
S&B is my go to range ammo. Been very happy with it
@shinigami1925
@shinigami1925 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, it is my preferred practice ammo in both the 124 and 115 grain versions. Also have had good results with the Norma red box 115.
@chadcarter5718
@chadcarter5718 3 жыл бұрын
@@karel3183 Probably not.
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын
[Paul, casually] Today we're going to compare eight brands of ammunition for velocity and accuracy, without any kind of sponsorship. As one does. [Gun magazine editor] *throws his hands up* Well, there goes our September edition.
@abc-wv4in
@abc-wv4in 3 жыл бұрын
Wish someone had sent some Federal American Eagle as that's what I have the most of.
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 2 жыл бұрын
@@abc-wv4in Hold onto that stuff. By far the best fmj round for accuracy and practice purposes.
@ReverendBow
@ReverendBow 3 жыл бұрын
Bravest deer in history.... they have no idea how quick they could be in a freezer if Paul decided to go rogue
@AOMartialArts
@AOMartialArts 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Paul going rogue. 🤣🤣🤣
@barccy
@barccy 3 жыл бұрын
Deer have an odd general habit of gravitating towards shooting. Maybe they think the noise is from antlers?
@richardpashos
@richardpashos 3 жыл бұрын
why on hunting you need to be silent and walk slowly if even shooting doesnt scare deers?
@barccy
@barccy 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardpashos Because they know to associate cracking leaves and branches with potential threats.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 жыл бұрын
Nawwww, the deer in the area simple know that when Paul's behind the trigger, their safe until hunting season.
@ColeDedhand
@ColeDedhand 3 жыл бұрын
"It's going to be very dry." Then give it to me dry Paul Harrell.
@hermatred572
@hermatred572 3 жыл бұрын
We didn't click on a 7 way comparison for fluff
@marcuschauvin7039
@marcuschauvin7039 3 жыл бұрын
Rough, dry and hard... hell throw some sand it!
@MesaperProductions
@MesaperProductions 3 жыл бұрын
The best martinis are
@skeletonwguitar4383
@skeletonwguitar4383 3 жыл бұрын
"Lack of hydration" Mr Harrell, need to hydrate
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 3 жыл бұрын
Yalls weird.
@MarkJacksonGaming
@MarkJacksonGaming 3 жыл бұрын
-- Liked you adding the variations. Once again. Green and White box holds it's own as a good carry/practice munition for the price. Thanks Paul, thumbs up as always.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 3 жыл бұрын
Green & White 124hp +P 9mm is what most of the firearms examiners carry in a very large and busy jurisdiction. Busy means lots of shootings/murder. Not stuff the the FBI gets its hands dirty on. Add: that's their personal choice for off-duty, not issue.
@MarkJacksonGaming
@MarkJacksonGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuvBorderCollies -- Agreed. Retired Ranger, and 22 years a PSC. It's helped me and my team.
@nicholasdonin1465
@nicholasdonin1465 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 45 hi point carbine I got a bull pup kit for. Now the only 45 it fires without fail is rem UMC. Sad because before that it would've fed rocks and fired rocks
@Gizmomaster
@Gizmomaster 3 жыл бұрын
The Variation section you have on the velocity board is incredibly important. Rounds certainly vary but to have a variation above 40 FPS? That can be significant. I really appreciate you including that Paul!
@food_toobs8333
@food_toobs8333 3 жыл бұрын
That is true. I would find it to be important especially when comparing the mean velocities. In the case of the Lawman ammo, I would be less concerned as the MV was almost 1200fps, vs the Geco where it’s velocity was incredibly low. As I reload, consistency is key, but you could be forgiven for a slightly wider range when your lowest velocity for a single round was higher than the highest velocity of the next closest round. Just my opinion. I’d be very curious on how these rounds would perform in the meat target as well. I know people will say “they’re FMJ, it’ll be the same”, but we just had a whole presentation on how that isn’t necessarily the case. Would they all retain their shape, would they keep their jackets or lose them, would they mushroom or fragment? I know the geometry of a bullet can make a difference, and if I remember correctly, the Fiocci ammo has more of a pointed cone, rather than a rounded nose, and some Lawman ammo has a flat face (I have a box of flat nose and a box of round nose). Given the commonality of these rounds, and in the case of military and some law enforcement, what would be the effectiveness against a meat target?
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 3 жыл бұрын
@@food_toobs8333 fmj’s are not crated equal as you imply. And as little as 50fps often makes a huge difference. Dumb ammo to use for hunting or defence but sometimes you don’t have a choice. Maybe you need something for wild animals and the only gun you have is a 9mm. It’d be nice to know you can push that thing 24” through a charging 4 legged monster and somewhere in that length do “stopping” damage. Really it’s all RPG stuff because none of use will ever have need for it. But for that one guy….. well I surely hope he’s paying attention.
@allalbavincero
@allalbavincero 3 жыл бұрын
@@food_toobs8333 If Paul really does a meat target on all those cartridge types, his family (or dogs only?) might be already refusing eating oranges and pork chops entirely.😂
@tlh31955
@tlh31955 3 жыл бұрын
@@boogerdog5247 the difference between the highest and lowest is called the range. Standard deviations are computed differently. And a correlation coefficient is only computed for 2 different variables. You could do mean velocity vs range but that wasn't even discussed.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
​@@allalbavincero Doesn't make much sense with fmj.
@johnelder9919
@johnelder9919 3 жыл бұрын
The Speer Lawman fmj was our practice ammunition and the Speer Gold Dot was our duty ammo (federal leo). My understanding was it was loaded similarly to the duty ammo so that you practice was similar to actual field preformance. In that same vein of thinking, your qualification rounds were always shot with duty ammo just to be sure you weapon was sighted in to your duty ammo. For what it's worth. Both are, in my experiance, excellent ammo.
@classicgunstoday1972
@classicgunstoday1972 3 жыл бұрын
Geco. 15 minutes of shooting will lose you 15% or more in accuracy.
@BlameTheController
@BlameTheController 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how cheap Blazer Brass is, im surprised with the effectiveness I would be curious to see the difference if any between Brass vs Aluminum Vs Steel
@aquablue6301
@aquablue6301 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Blazer is a CCI product. I've found their products to be of above average quality. YMMV
@leroyjenkins4811
@leroyjenkins4811 3 жыл бұрын
It’s weird. Blazer Brass always jams in all my pistols. I always have failures to extract and the fired shells get stuck in the chambers. It takes significant effort to get them out. I’ve never had any other problems with any other brass cased, steel cased, or aluminum cased ammo.
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 3 жыл бұрын
@@leroyjenkins4811 That is ironic blazer has always been my go to
@waldojim42
@waldojim42 3 жыл бұрын
@@leroyjenkins4811 Got a new 9mm recently, first stuff I put through it was a couple boxes of aluminum blazer just to see how it would go. Cycled every round perfectly. Could very well be difference in firearms.
@zzxxooooxxzz4964
@zzxxooooxxzz4964 3 жыл бұрын
@@aquablue6301 Yeah there made by cci which means there 22cal rimfire ammo is probably loaded on the same machine as the 22. Stingers and Velocitiers and just packed in bulk and sold cheaper but there 9mm and 45auto is junk I find it to be the worst...
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 3 жыл бұрын
If Paul left out the chronograph tests, how would we see the deer come up and check out the scene, as they seem to do so often in these videos?
@coltluger2079
@coltluger2079 3 жыл бұрын
Would you miss an opportunity to see Paul in action? Those deer are lucky
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 3 жыл бұрын
He's lucky he doesn't shoot near a cow pasture. Those are the noisiest animals I've ever seen. Perhaps they are used to humans+noise=feeding time.
@TheActionBastard
@TheActionBastard 3 жыл бұрын
Paul is so badass the deer have learned over time from him and now come to see his presentations as they're filmed so they've got the latest information on the weapons and ammo their enemies will be using.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 3 жыл бұрын
Paul is just grooming them for hunting season. He'll call them in with each shot he makes, and then pick the one he wants.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 3 жыл бұрын
Paul: “This content will be a little dry.” Deer: “OH BOY!”
@MVEZombie
@MVEZombie 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like PH should do ted talks where he tours around the US and does presentations like this, but we get to stand there in person and watch. I'd pay for that.
@joeyoung1973
@joeyoung1973 3 жыл бұрын
Paul talks
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
But TED Talk yappers typically are not legitimately expert, while Paul Harrell is truly a legitimate expert. However, I understand your desire to have Paul more widely heard.
@jimmyrustler8983
@jimmyrustler8983 3 жыл бұрын
Audiobooks, too.
@maxpiemuse9584
@maxpiemuse9584 3 жыл бұрын
Heck I'd go to a Paul concert and I've never even heard him sing.
@BenKlassen1
@BenKlassen1 2 жыл бұрын
Ted talks seem to be for liberal weenies.
@Bigshooterist
@Bigshooterist 3 жыл бұрын
It makes me happy that there are still people interested in ballistic data collection. Numbers mean things. Strait forward and informative. Thank you. 🔥😎👍
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 3 жыл бұрын
I think you mean "straightforward". Sorry, things like that just really bother me.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
I skipped the chrono work, but stayed for the analysis. Then I watched the target shooting, because the accuracy of various ammunition is interesting.
@jrdeckard3317
@jrdeckard3317 3 жыл бұрын
The meat targets breathed a sigh of relief.
@koltendavis4802
@koltendavis4802 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no they haven't. We need the meat targets of these ammos.
@seeharvester
@seeharvester 2 ай бұрын
@@koltendavis4802 S&B for the win. And it's affordable.
@karel3183
@karel3183 3 жыл бұрын
Asking to remove the chronograph is like asking Bob Ross to skip painting trees or happy clouds.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Paul shows his work. Easy enough to listen to the numbers and do the math ourselves if we are so inclined.
@jimvac77
@jimvac77 3 жыл бұрын
"This will be dry, but informative." That should be the name of this channel. And I mean that with the utmost respect.
@sheldoniusRex
@sheldoniusRex 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Nice to know that Blazer Brass and Sellier & Belot are equal to Remington and Winchester in performance. It really opens up the bulk purchase options.
@scubaguy007
@scubaguy007 3 жыл бұрын
Sellier & Bellot 124gr FMJ is my favorite range ammo. I have always thought it was loaded a little hot, and yet pretty consistent. It groups real well for me in pretty much every 9mm I own.
@roccofilippi1418
@roccofilippi1418 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell out of my P365 the 115 is a little hotter...
@bobloblaw204
@bobloblaw204 3 жыл бұрын
@ scuba - I just grabbed a case of the s+b to put through my Ruger PC9. Price was right, and I am glad to see it performs decently. Thanks for the boost.
@abc-wv4in
@abc-wv4in 3 жыл бұрын
@@roccofilippi1418 Any 116 gr seems to have more recoil or more snappy recoil than 124 or 147. I like 147gr in my subcompacts, usually Lawman or American Eagle. For SD HST 147.
@roccofilippi1418
@roccofilippi1418 3 жыл бұрын
The 115 I was referring to was the S&B. It is probably the hottest round of any brand I have shot in the same grain. I should have just said S&B within my comment.
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the S&B 124 gr over PMC, Blazer, Fiochi, Magtech, and Norma. But I get whichever of them is cheapest when I need some.
@hellpimp
@hellpimp 3 жыл бұрын
You know what, go ahead and mark me down as "leave the chronograph section in". I love the way Paul shares information.
@JohnW-yv6yp
@JohnW-yv6yp 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard the prononciation of Sellior and Bellot well done Paul lol
@ftdefiance1
@ftdefiance1 3 жыл бұрын
Heck he needs to do a review of French 7 millimeter Long with Forgotten Weapons
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz 3 жыл бұрын
We Americans seem to have problems with some pronunciations. One of my favorites is Lapua. The common pronunciation in the US is La pu ah, when it's actually Lop Wah.
@czjunky2045
@czjunky2045 3 жыл бұрын
Leave the chrono in Paul if people don’t want to see it they can aplastic forward like you advised
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 3 жыл бұрын
Aplastic?
@plot6520
@plot6520 3 жыл бұрын
Aplastic?
@mattsmechanicalssi5833
@mattsmechanicalssi5833 3 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, the use of aplastic may be some sort of autocorrect error as it's definition refers to the failure of an organ or tissue to develop or to function normally, with the most common being Aplastic Anemia.
@plot6520
@plot6520 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattsmechanicalssi5833 now that's a rabbit hole I'd not expected
@cherno8119
@cherno8119 3 жыл бұрын
it might be useful for him to seperate the video out into sections or chapters like I do with the tetris videos on my channel, though it might be a little tedious considering the average length of a video on this channel
@kb9oak749
@kb9oak749 3 жыл бұрын
Paul: "This is going to be tedious". Comment section: "Excited noises."
@bobloblaw204
@bobloblaw204 3 жыл бұрын
@biggunshandguns3687
@biggunshandguns3687 3 жыл бұрын
Excited noises? That comment made me very uncomfortable and probably scare Paul to death
@21psd
@21psd 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Paul, you shoot tighter groups at 25 than I do at 7. And please keep those chronograph tests coming!
@cdee6096
@cdee6096 3 жыл бұрын
We finally found Pauls fatal flaw- He can’t memorize 8 different ammunitions and variations in order.
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 3 жыл бұрын
That's it, he's off the project.
@sski
@sski 3 жыл бұрын
You're gonna have that on these bigger jobs.
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 3 жыл бұрын
He actually can, but pretends not to so his fans don’t feel to bad.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch some of his shotgun videos. Here it's just brand and bullet weight. They're all fmj. Shooting the right target with the right ammo might be a bigger concern here. I've seen it several times on other channels that they mess up the order or shoot the wrong target after they walked back.
@cdee6096
@cdee6096 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielaramburo7648 I feel bad every time he shoots. Makes me see how much I suck
@michaele1278
@michaele1278 3 жыл бұрын
Yup here in Canada we're relegated to FMJ ammo. Nothing here expands except the left wing autocracy.
@allalbavincero
@allalbavincero 3 жыл бұрын
US sees the same expansion as well.
@kitosjek9541
@kitosjek9541 3 жыл бұрын
@@allalbavincero big corpos and warhawks = left wing ?
@Askorti
@Askorti 3 жыл бұрын
That kind of expansion sure causes some serious wounds.
@darthkek1953
@darthkek1953 3 жыл бұрын
@@kitosjek9541 Big Tech are Cultural Marxists to the core.
@burnyburnoutze2nd
@burnyburnoutze2nd 3 жыл бұрын
Actually expanding handgun ammunition does exist here in Canada; it's just hard to find due to a severe lack of demand (why would you want expanding handgun ammunition in country where you literally can't shoot it anywhere but a range? The logic behind most dealers.)
@Novous
@Novous 3 жыл бұрын
Criminal gets shot, looks at wound, about to die, then at me: "Cheap ammo? Seriously?"
@somebloke3869
@somebloke3869 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, cause I use the good stuff for hunting. Criminals get the cheap stuff, animals the expensive. Sounds fair.
@farklestaxbaum4945
@farklestaxbaum4945 3 жыл бұрын
unless he's on crack and the fmj bullet passes straight through him so he continues to attack you until he bleeds out
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын
@@farklestaxbaum4945 Then shoot em twice.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын
@@somebloke3869 Due to the high cost of ammo there will be no warning shot and If can read this you are in range.
@somebloke3869
@somebloke3869 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 why only twice? Surely your magazine holds more than two rounds.
@jazeenharal6013
@jazeenharal6013 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, I'm so glad I found your channel. 36 and (relatively) new to firearms. I love your content and I appreciate the vein of "Don't get too full of yourself" that runs through your videos.
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the firearm community!
@bowencreer3922
@bowencreer3922 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally just watching Paul Harrell videos and wondering when he was gonna post again. Lol
@czjunky2045
@czjunky2045 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!!!
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 3 жыл бұрын
He knew.
@adamwestlund4750
@adamwestlund4750 3 жыл бұрын
I love this combination of painstaking detail and succinct delivery!
@JonDC70
@JonDC70 Жыл бұрын
Fiocchi must be rounding to the nearest 1200😂
@buscaderoticonda7270
@buscaderoticonda7270 3 жыл бұрын
Responding to some questions below regarding the tested ammo - the GECO is made in Hungary, and the Fiocchi is made in Italy. (I gave them to Paul & have the boxes).
@jonhoward437
@jonhoward437 3 жыл бұрын
Paul: "The firearm I'm going to use today is my Sig Saur M17..." Me: "No Beretta 92?" Starts hoarding toilet paper.
@9mmpeter255
@9mmpeter255 3 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@jamespruitt6718
@jamespruitt6718 3 жыл бұрын
@@9mmpeter255 usually Paul’s go to 9mm pistol is his Beretta 92. He even has a video on it being the last gun he would get rid of.
@sweet65mustang
@sweet65mustang 3 жыл бұрын
@@9mmpeter255 I think it's an end of times comment
@rebelliousgrayfox
@rebelliousgrayfox 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the M17 recently adopted by the military? So a bunch of people will be using them as their service pistol, as well as LEOs who can carry a personal firearm (as opposed to being issued one). And lets not forget civilians are going to want them because they want military style weapons.
@donovanchilton5817
@donovanchilton5817 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebelliousgrayfox It was a few years ago, now but yes. I'd say you're correct about that. Police and civilian trends tend to follow what the military is up to at the time. Oh and movies. Can't forget movies.
@jackofmanytrades4396
@jackofmanytrades4396 3 жыл бұрын
I used to buy GECO 9mm ammunition back in the '90s, and it was adequate, reliable plinking ammo for a reasonable price. Hard to go wrong with S&B or CCI though.
@adamrenissance3322
@adamrenissance3322 3 жыл бұрын
Valid information is never boring.
@hazelatino626
@hazelatino626 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they are not created equal but about to watch from the master.
@turdmuffins88
@turdmuffins88 3 жыл бұрын
My 2.5 year-old daughter is loving this video. Paul's metronomic pace makes it easy for her to count-down each shot.
@warblerblue
@warblerblue 3 жыл бұрын
Sesame street eat your heart out. Your daughter will be memorizing ballistic charts like they were multiplication tables.
@0117ization
@0117ization 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. No nonsense just the facts with as seen demonstrations This channel is also done in a professional manner and is very informative . Thanks
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
OH, Paul does "nonsense" on the Halloween and Christmas specials and others, but we can tell it's going to be nonsense by the video title but I get what you mean
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, as always Paul. It's obvious why I've been buying Blazer Brass just about forever. It's a great product !
@9mmpeter255
@9mmpeter255 3 жыл бұрын
Your mom is a great product
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 3 жыл бұрын
@@9mmpeter255 Actually Aaron, if you think about it we both are the products of our mothers.
@sanninjiraiya
@sanninjiraiya 3 жыл бұрын
With the ammo shortages, this is a really welcome topic.
@glennycarroll
@glennycarroll 3 жыл бұрын
I echo the comments in favor the "tedious" parts. It allows me to experience the sensation of firing myself. And I enjoy the scenery while you are doing it. Glad to see the firing from a rest to reduce the human element in the testing.
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
When Paul uploads a new video, the world stops turning for a second.
@av8rk9
@av8rk9 3 жыл бұрын
true dat
@davesomeone4059
@davesomeone4059 3 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to this in the shower. Can't wait till I'm done.
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
@@davesomeone4059 That is a bit strange to be honest...
@numberlover8181
@numberlover8181 3 жыл бұрын
It does for me. His videos are the ones that I look forward to most from any platform/app
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 3 жыл бұрын
@@numberlover8181 Same here, best around for sure.
@joshshepherd5660
@joshshepherd5660 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes...I see you are in the smoke as well! The valley is fairing...somewhat better...for now. Thanks for your time!
@davidw835
@davidw835 3 жыл бұрын
We just drove from Idaho to New Mexico and had it there entire way…
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
Friday morning this wall of brown rolled into the Salt Lake Valley and made the place reek
@avshockey6633
@avshockey6633 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tadicuslegion78 It has been smoky as hell in Colorado too. It's so thick that it's hard to even see the mountains from the Denver metro area.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Texas and we can see the haze.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 3 жыл бұрын
@@avshockey6633 sure it’s not the Denver smog as well? I just read Denver had the worst air quality in the country. Either way we haven’t got the smoke yet here in the Colombia river gorge but if the winds shift a bit I’m sure we will again
@gw5436
@gw5436 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see Paul is shooting from a rest, to make the comparison (in his Sig at least) mean something accuracy-wise. remember though, that anyone doing a lot of shooting with different handguns using the same ammo, what's great (or bad) in one, can mean something totally different in another. Summary, means nothing unless you do it in your own firearm.
@jonbock4853
@jonbock4853 3 жыл бұрын
I always assumed, based on zero data, that lawman, fiocchi, and s/b were much better than BB and WWB. Thanks Paul for this very informative presentation. And thanks to whoever sent all this ammo!! What a gift of such a precious resource.
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Fiocchi and S&B also...a lot of folks for whatever reason think foreign manufactured ammo isn't any good, which is just plain crazy...foreign ammo has killed millions of foreigners over the years, and too many Americans...our experience is it goes bang reliably...
@mattpeacock5208
@mattpeacock5208 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep the data collection in! It makes everything honest!
@depqua7905
@depqua7905 3 жыл бұрын
You can read the crono in the video?
@mattpeacock5208
@mattpeacock5208 3 жыл бұрын
@@depqua7905 I guess he could be lying about that, but I doubt it.
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
@@depqua7905 That's a good idea. I mean to keep things honest, he could have two cameras and the one with chrono could be on a split screen format, but then that gets complicated and then we'd have to have Paul showing us opening the boxes, showing us the headstamp, loading the magazine and then shooting it all in one take to eliminate any conceivable subterfuge. Some people might demand that in our low trust, low honesty world we're living in; the Empire of Lies...
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
@PassportBrosBusinessClass 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for another great ammo comparison Mr. Harrell.
@toddk1377
@toddk1377 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a new Paul Harrel video. Supposed to be sleeping, but oh well, I'll take an extra energy drink at work!
@marcuschauvin7039
@marcuschauvin7039 3 жыл бұрын
You just made my night at work ten fold better! I LOVE tedious chronograph testing!
@briandriver301
@briandriver301 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative, especially in the current ammunition situation where, you can only get whatever is available which leads to several different brands in ones “stash”.
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww 3 жыл бұрын
We don't lose sleep over all the different brands in our stash...as we shoot we try to shoot the stuff we don't like 1st to get rid of it, but it is going to take a while...i know the missus shot a dozen .38's today, all she said is she used the box on top (we keep our ready for range ammo out from our stash), and 50 .380 also got blown up...I've been encouraging her to go shoot whenever she wants to, but the heat has been harsh lately...she just texted that she was able to field strip the bersa, which is hard for her for whatever reason...she cleans guns with a religious fervor that would shame a lot of guys, yup, she's a keeper...😁
@FirstLast-uz6eq
@FirstLast-uz6eq 3 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early, Istanbul was still Constantinople.
@ManetInAEternum
@ManetInAEternum 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
😂 👍
@TheSwoopDog
@TheSwoopDog 3 жыл бұрын
As an Italian, thank you also for properly pronouncing the hard C in Fiocchi.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
Canadians are terrible at the hard C from the "cch" in Italian. I remember BCers saying "Mar-zot-chee" for Marzocchi back in the 90s/00s. They butcher "pasta" as well. Nice folks, clean cities, but terrible at foreign words. 😂
@TheSwoopDog
@TheSwoopDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanoneil277 I still love them Canadians! Hard not to!
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 3 жыл бұрын
Takeaway one--I was at my county range yesterday and it was hazy--and you seem to have that haze as well. California wildfires again! Takeaway two--"not all 9x19mm NATO FMJ ammo is equal" but performance was close enough--at least in the hands of a proficient "professional"--that having any of those eight loads would be preferable to having no ammo until my ammo source comes through with more. I was restricted to ball ammunition because of military regulations and corporation rules "for official use" over a period of 35 years. I used better ammunition when I could. The difference in performance between FMJ and JHP is smaller than the difference in performance between FMJ and no bullets. Thanks for this educational demonstration. That was a lot of ammunition during this period of no ammo on retail shelves.
@StoonRay1
@StoonRay1 3 жыл бұрын
Its always a good day for us when Paul shoots guns and decides to share what he has learned. Thanks Paul!!
@BTVDeusVult
@BTVDeusVult 3 жыл бұрын
SOLID review! Extremely thorough and fascinating results - did not expect some of the findings, especially regarding Fiocchi. It would be great to turn this into a series comparing other popular 9x19 FMJ’s. Thanks for taking the time! 🇺🇸
@AshGreen359
@AshGreen359 3 жыл бұрын
I'm told S&B have harder primers Speer lawman ammo is supposed to perform exactly the same way ballistically as Speer Gold Dot. So people can practice with the FMJ and save money using less JHP
@liquidblake
@liquidblake 3 жыл бұрын
9:15 he is standing by the chart
@ludecom-cz1wz
@ludecom-cz1wz 3 жыл бұрын
Wet dogs, a cup of coffee and a new Paul video. A good start to the day.
@mfallen4277
@mfallen4277 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I wouldn't scoff at someone for mispronouncing Sellier & Bellot, especially for saying it using anglicized pronunciation, as we aren't a francophone country. Kind of like the country "Niger" and the way it is pronounced. When I was a kid I was taught to pronounce it "nigh-jer" and that was the way every news anchor pronounced it up until about 5 years ago. All of a sudden it was pronounced "knee-jaire" (I don't know how to spell phonetically, but I assume the point is being made) and people looked at you like a fool for using the anglicized pronunciation. Well, we're an English-speaking country, why should we be faulted for pronouncing things in the way our language traditionally taught us? Not like non-English speakers don't butcher English pronunciation of words just as often.
@zerpblerd5966
@zerpblerd5966 3 жыл бұрын
Denis Leary does a whole spiel on this in his No Cure for Cancer standup "croissant"
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul and team. I appreciate the nearly comprehensive test, and realize that there are shortages going on, but such a test would have put things in perspective better had you been able to grab two different NATO 9mm FMJ examples (NATO packaging, etc.) to compare against what we are being sold. Edit: I do love the re-shoots to get better data on flyers.
@DRAGONRIDER385
@DRAGONRIDER385 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul. I have also found different ammo shoots different. And also have found that sometimes it will differ box to box. Thank you for the video.
@asmodeus20
@asmodeus20 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God, back in the sane, comfortable part of yt
@TheKentuckyPatriot
@TheKentuckyPatriot 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see this pop up in my notifications!!
@mikewerden4056
@mikewerden4056 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic demonstration. Just wish I would have sent some Federal American Eagle to see how that stacked up.
@biggunshandguns3687
@biggunshandguns3687 3 жыл бұрын
Id be interest in the American Eagle ammo ad well. I don't buy ammo often but every time I use it the group's are terrible. I've used it in 45 acp and 10mm only so not a huge variance in calibers
@cw4karlschulte661
@cw4karlschulte661 3 жыл бұрын
Now i am in a West FL no shooting outdoors place. Left 16 acres of hill and valley field and forest all my own. Shooting to my hearts content. Here only $$$ indoors place, outside is maybe 80 to 90 miles away. Am 60% disabled Army retired, can't drive far. So, like fans of Paul in cities and say, England, I can enjoy shooting vicariously, in addition to his wisdom. Have been capt of #3 pistol team in US NG, so was asked to help teach ccw class here, and his talks make great extra background. He is a great resource and super great guy. Kudo's to you Paul! CW4 Karl
@danrunner84
@danrunner84 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the chronograph section. Those that don’t should bugger off.
@XYz-zj5zd
@XYz-zj5zd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing S&B, here in Europe it's popular and available. Would be great to see how S&B 9x19 JHP performs in the meet target:) In the ranges I go it is forbidden to shoot things that are not poppers or paper target
@bobloblaw204
@bobloblaw204 3 жыл бұрын
I have a range where I go to and It has lots of old stoves and refrigerators. So much fun to shoot. Stay safe brother. (canada)
@XYz-zj5zd
@XYz-zj5zd 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobloblaw204 Thx, you too!
@keithmcconnell3165
@keithmcconnell3165 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for quality content. It’s been a little hard to find lately. There’s yourself, marksman TV and a couple others that are consistent but that’s about it these days
@aksalaman4689
@aksalaman4689 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy USOG and Gunblue 490 also.
@WImob420
@WImob420 3 жыл бұрын
Gun sam revolver afficanadio is good.
@willwilliam217
@willwilliam217 3 жыл бұрын
God family and guns, honest outlaw, the firearm guy and beretta9mmusa have some very good videos also.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
@@aksalaman4689 Gunblue 490 is a fine gentleman with a great teaching style, backed up by years of experience. He & Paul Harrell are the 2 best channels on firearms, IMHO.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
@@willwilliam217 GF&G is a honeypot made by subversives. Their "God" is not what you probably assume or think.
@jamesmanning8795
@jamesmanning8795 3 жыл бұрын
The back ground in the beginning of the video is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for the video!
@9mil1313
@9mil1313 3 жыл бұрын
How detailed you get during your explanations, unreal... Fantastic!!!
@Kurtdog63
@Kurtdog63 3 жыл бұрын
Accuracy and dependability are everything. All the rounds are reasonably powerful. I think some manufactures try to cater to the subsonic folks and keep their velocities right below the magical 1100 fps. Side note: Carbines will typically shoot about 200 fps faster than pistol, so most 115 grain stuff will not be subsonic out of carbines. Except Wolf steel case stuff...my Wolf 45 auto ammo chronographed at 700 fps.. out of a carbine..
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of intentionally subsonic ammo is loaded to 950 or even less fps. It keeps the projectile out of the transonic range and makes sure if you have a gun with a tight chamber or longer barrel or any other variables that can bump the velocity the tiniest bit you still don't get the sonic crack. If you had subsonic ammo that was rated for 1075 fps there is enough variability of the atmosphere to get supersonic rounds at high elevation and even leaving the gun chambered with a hot barrel might be enough to kick it over. You get funny things that can happen to accuracy with transonic rounds. You'll see most subsonic special purpose firearms shoot way below even 1000fps even if the cartridge is capable. The 9x39 is an example of this. They shoot under 950fps with the military issue ammo. It keeps it quiet and accurate.
@farklestaxbaum4945
@farklestaxbaum4945 3 жыл бұрын
yeah none of these manufacturers are catering to "subsonic folks"
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Paul says "Lawman"! I bought a couple of boxes of Speer Lawman recently, when the options were few. I just firgure that it was intended to be practice ammo for departments that issued Gold Dot LE. I don't know if there's any difference between LE and regular Gold Dots, but I like the 50 round box. When I refill my mags after shooting at the range, one 50 round box does the job better than two or three smaller ones.
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, I appreciate the correct pronunciation of the Sellier and Bellot ammo. Blazer continues to surprise, a welcome surprise.
@RealGregJamesBeam
@RealGregJamesBeam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Harrell
@williamgaines9784
@williamgaines9784 3 жыл бұрын
Good demo. S&B, in my experiennce, has always been "stout" ammo. I use it for a couple of my hunting rifles. CCI, who makes Blazer and also Speer, is known for consistent loadings, even in its rimfires. The Lawman series is one I have zero experience with. Win. and Rem. in their "plain Jane" packaging are usually good choices, although Rem. suffered some setbacks. I have used Fiocchi since the 1980s. It is adequate for everyday use. Have never used Geco, or BBM. One thing not included was price. If the store's shelf has all of them and they were all similarly priced I would likely pick Win. In the absence of choice, they all went bang and any would be better at the range than an empty bag.
@Gizmomaster
@Gizmomaster 3 жыл бұрын
If you find the chronograph section tedious you can most certainly skip through it. But all of us will judge you as not being a “true” Paulite(Praise be to the bottomless pockets). In all seriousness this is a great Presentation Paul! Comparison presentations are incredibly useful as they give me a good idea of what a type of ammunition will actually do beyond the marketing hype.
@ManetInAEternum
@ManetInAEternum 3 жыл бұрын
All praise the poooockeeeets..... Aaaaaaaameeeen
@jk5658
@jk5658 3 жыл бұрын
Came home earlier today after picking up my birthday present, wife sent me to Scottsdale, AZ with an address of a business plaza. Arrived at the Plaza opened my birthday card. Expecting a set of racing wheels for one of my bicycles, card directed me to a firearms store to pick up a Sig Sauer M17.
@kevinclause4p55p5
@kevinclause4p55p5 3 жыл бұрын
This was delightful. Thanks!
@johonfritz
@johonfritz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this makes up for a bad day.
@dabush6380
@dabush6380 3 жыл бұрын
That smoke in the back ground is so bad I cant see the mountains where I live in Albuquerque NM! As always excellent work on the video.
@warblerblue
@warblerblue 3 жыл бұрын
It just cleared up today here in the 4 corners. Was just as bad as what you see there in ABQ.
@vadenummela9353
@vadenummela9353 3 жыл бұрын
Another golden presentation.
@SmartrMelons
@SmartrMelons 3 жыл бұрын
I always use CCI Blazer Brass for personal use. The only time I use a different brand of ball ammo, is when I go to the Sheriff range, where you have to use their ammo. Also use Elite V-Crown, JHP self defense rounds. Just saw Blazer Brass come down to $19 per 50rd.. which is still $9 more than before the Great Ammo Shortage of 2000/21, but doable.
@fortawesome1974
@fortawesome1974 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you used a rest this time to try and take you out of the equation. I know why you don't normally but I still think this is the best way to test accuracy.
@frogdude21XXX
@frogdude21XXX 3 жыл бұрын
Sell-yay & Bay-lo as the French say. Been wondering about their .45acp. Another great presentation. Thanks.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrel is the perfect antidote to the deluge of tacticool youtube gun channels. Calm, precise and ultimately skilled--someone who knows exactly how to use a gun and can clearly make whatever point he is demonstrating without the bullshit side-salad. The fact even now he gives almost no political commentary is also *very* much appreciated as well. For me it is a toss-up between Paul Harrel and Ian McCollum on who I personally consider to be the premiere YT firearms content. Please--keep up the *excellent* work, chronograph section and all!!!
@MrSearay1962
@MrSearay1962 3 жыл бұрын
I love the chronograph segment! Thanks for another great video, Paul
@headshot8888
@headshot8888 3 жыл бұрын
They all went bang. They're all good. I've been running the s and b through my m&p 40 2.0 and it goes bang too. For me it's just my training ammo as I get by 1000 round case.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
Just "going bang" is no big deal if accuracy & velocity are irregular. Unless, I suppose, your only reason for shooting is to hear the BANG! -- which I don't understand, given that firearms are tools & weapons and not just toys or noisemakers. Am I missing something here?
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanoneil277 Yes, who cares if one brand is 100 fps slower or has a wider range of velocity? What difference does it make?
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExpatriotSilencers So Paul Harrell's video above is pointless and/or useless? Why are you here? To act keyboard-tough and internet-smug?
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanoneil277 Naw, I generally like PH videos and find them quite informative. Hence why I was fairly disappointed with this particular video.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExpatriotSilencers Why disappointed then? He does ammo comparisons w/ chrono & accuracy pretty often. You don't have to watch them, eh? And you surely don't have to post a self-congratulating remark that implies Mr Harrell is doing pointless work. Nobody's stopping you from doing your own video which proves your allegedly superior talent. Might be useful, if you are truly superior.
@keepall3818
@keepall3818 3 жыл бұрын
Earliest I have ever been, and I have been a subscriber since Paul had less than fourth thousand of us.
@ronivichman666
@ronivichman666 3 жыл бұрын
Paul here in Israel our police are using FMJs, I think it's 124 gr +P. The Sellier and Bellot brand is the most common FMJ, so I'm glad to see it's a good round.
@fm71450
@fm71450 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep up this GREAT WORK - many of us are looking for data - driven information, and for those that are not🤷‍♂️
@jaredsousa3413
@jaredsousa3413 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine Paul as the high school firearms class teacher from an alternate universe where we actually realized that early firearms education prevents thousands of people from injuries unnecessarily... "please turn in your ballistics calculations homework on my desk"
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc Жыл бұрын
And this would be a great thing.
@bruceholinight7978
@bruceholinight7978 3 жыл бұрын
You can hear the low report of that Geco , sounds like a reduced hand load !
@tommylee2894
@tommylee2894 3 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding Paul Harrell video. Standard in excellence of real world shooting metrics.
@preem7932
@preem7932 2 жыл бұрын
Legitimately the best gun channel. Informative, interesting and very entertaining.
@SctyGrpPowers
@SctyGrpPowers 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at S&B as I always thought of it as cheap ammo. Pretty good velocity. While velocity is important, especially in hollow points, my concern with high velocity in fmj is over penetration. I believe you should shoot as much of your carry ammo as you can afford in lieu of fmj
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper 3 жыл бұрын
Overpen is irrelevant at the range though
@Vanalos
@Vanalos 3 жыл бұрын
@@tackytrooper So is velocity. consistency is king.
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, velocity is not important at all. What is important in JPHs is their construction to allow reliable expansion.
@SctyGrpPowers
@SctyGrpPowers 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExpatriotSilencers Actually, if you don't have sufficient velocity, no matter the hollowpoint, they won't expand.
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 жыл бұрын
@@SctyGrpPowers True but 100 fps isn't going to make that difference.
@doubleutubefan5
@doubleutubefan5 3 жыл бұрын
S&B Is the ammo I specifically seek out. I love that stuff. Well at least my gun does. I thank Larry Vickers for introducing me to that brand
@tenchraven
@tenchraven 3 жыл бұрын
S&B has been my go-to training and small game load for my 9mms for several years. Shoots well, recoil feels good, very reliable IME. Glad to get a second opinion. :)
@hamm6035
@hamm6035 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO. I hand out your KZbin like candy. I taught some and some days I felt everyone wanted a free instructor for the day. Then I found you on KZbin. I actually get a range day now and then for myself. Thanks Paul.
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