How to control poa annua and poa trivialis in fescue

[@jaywyrick980]

Canada Rod shout out💥

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Jay Wyrick how is your Anuew test going JDUB?

[@jaywyrick980]

Paul's Prime Cuts Seeing degradation in the Annua. Triv has slowed growth but still looking at doing a second app if rain gives me an opportunity 🙄

[@Mark-zi2og]

Holy smoke! I agree with you, this could be a game changer! Can’t wait to see your updates and if this might apply for my KBG! Thanks Paul 👍🏻

[@kevinsears6346]

Was mowing leaves/grass today and noticed a few spots of Poa annua in my brand new renovation! Great video! Ordered some Aneuw and ready to kick some poa Assua!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

I wouldn’t start it till early spring

[@ShaneBretey]

I'm lame and watching Your videos on a Saturday night. Love ya bro.

[@wayneessar7489]

Get well soon!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Shane Bretey I’m even lamer on a Saturday night I fell asleep while this video was loading to the interwebs

[@Lawnvolution]

If I knew you and Pete were in North Carolina, I would have never left👊👊👊 You two dudes are too cool😎👊

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

George Popa 😂

[@rayland8553]

I wish you could take of lawn, move to Michigan! Ordered some today, 👍🏻

[@Dstromb232]

I used a growth regulator on my lawn in the spring but if you have a fungus problems the turf will not grow it out! I used the scotts starter fertilizer with tenacity in it when planting new seed no POA then eerily spring I put down Prodiamine. Do the same every year now and no POA.

[@harryharry3193]

follow up would be nice .....how is it looking this year Paul?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Toast video I put out was here

[@j9fingers]

Really good information. We are just getting started with the spring warmup here in Michigan, and I've got a couple ball fields in trouble because of this stuff. I too think it came with a renovation and reseeding job I did a few years ago. I used a heavy fescue mix, and no other sports fields have it, other than the ones I reseeded. But now I've got a problem, and I really hate the thought of doing them all again, plus the added expense. So you are thinking put down the Anuew, let the poa die back, and then let the fescue fill in, and possibly add seed if needed? I do aerate often and try to take care of the fields as best as possible. Thanks for your help!

[@renardleterrible6791]

I’m glad I caught this knowledge - I honestly couldn’t tell if I had yellow nutsedge or this stuff for about a year now. Started in one clump and I guess I helped it spread - got a small army of it now in my tall fescue turf. Good channel brother.

[@justin911911]

Do you have an update on how this product worked on controlling the Poa Annua?

[@dawalker02]

Now I know what you're talking about. I'm going to get some. Good video!

[@arttully7982]

would you say a year later that the Anuew has largely eliminated the pop annual and the pop triv and therefore recommend it for cool season grasses- ALSO WHAT IS BEST TIME TO APPLY?

[@Bradannas1]

Awesome video Outlaw! I have had a ton of Poa A and Poa T in my new renovation. I used 4th millennium, titanium 2ls, raptor 3, and avenger 2. Luckily I seeded the worst area late and didn’t get a lot of growth so I have been pulling it all by hand and all the Poa plants have been small and easy to pull because it rains 5 out of 7 days. I don’t think this would be possible with a thick stand especially with the Poa T so hopefully with it being really small I got it all. I walk my renovation 2 days a week looking for this crap. I hope this anuew works it will be interesting forsure!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

bradannas1 get some Anuew out on that bad boy and see what happens

[@Bradannas1]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts waiting on your results lol! I hopefully got a handle on it this year I haven’t seen anything new pop up in the last week. Will see what comes along this week I guess.

[@fescuefreddy6529]

So are you spot spraying the Poa Triv and Poa Annua or just blanket spray it?

[@josephrottina1901]

Always great watching your videos brother. Always learning something.👍🇺🇸

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Joseph Rottina thanks!

[@upscalelawncaremonroe408]

Real good info Paul, You the man!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Upscale Lawn Care Monroe thanks!

[@tjordan8146]

Nice work Paul.

[@jonmernick780]

I have a better way, 1). use tenacity to turn it white. 2). i use certainty at 1/3 strength and hit the areas 3 times in 3 weeks. 3). i spread several bags of peatmoss and grass seed when the triv turns brown. My lawn is kentucky blue and short fescue and some tall fescue( which certainty kills, i dont want tall fescue anyways). Over 1/2 my lawn was poa triv when i started in the spring, now i have a couple of small patches of triv left. Nice thing is the triv stays white for like 3 weeks or more so very easy to kill off. When I used roundup it all came back

[@krehbein]

If it kills the poa a with seed heads,do the seeds still fall into the soil and germinate next season?

[@Shadowstep6278]

I applied in spring and loved the results this summer. I just applied it again for the off season. I’m impressed how little you have to use with a small gallon sprayer. I put about .3 oz in a gallon sprayer (I only have abt 500sq ft of grass) and I’m curious what’s the most i could put in a gallon sprayer without damage to the grass?

[@justinmitchuson8992]

Is there a video showing your 65 gallon nurse tank in your truck? I was wondering if it's just gravity feed or if it has a pump.

[@alastairduncan1944]

I'm sure hes mentioned before that its gravity fed, could be wrong tho

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Yes just gravity feed ... I just put water in it

[@stevesmoes6872]

I am in West Michigan with a Bluegrass turf that has been devastated by poa annua for a few years now. I have tried round up and digging out 6" of soil then replanting. I've tried Bonide Weed Beater for the past 3 years in September with no success. I would imagine that I am to late to apply this now, so what is your recommendation for time schedule from this point on and how often? Thanks in advance!

[@42swissmocha]

I'm more interested to see how well it regulates growth. Am I reading the label right, 1 lb per acre is max rate?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Emily Burcham that’s the max rate for fescue.... and the poa suppression rate

[@cjwest01]

Thanks for sharing. I may try this next Spring. Did a reno last Fall with Fescue and both Poa's came to the party. They like water and Nitrogen, too! May end up having to sod where it ends up dying, and using prodiamine or dithiopyr this fall--for fall pre-emergent applications when do you typically apply? Specific soil temp? I'm in middle TN

[@NCGrassPlugs]

Solid info as always! How would that pgr work on tightening up my zoysiagrass?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

A to Zoysia oh yeah it will cut back on mowing stress and frequency too

[@rodmarquardt5099]

I haven't personnally used in zoysia however in St. Augustine turf I was pleased with the turf color and density after application. (And of course the growth regulation). I would expect the same results in zoysia. A large number of golf courses have switched over to Anuew due to this. Note that with zoysia rates are going to be higher than in fescue. Rates range from 14.5 - 43.6 oz per acre in zoysia depending upon desired longevity, how often you plan on applying, and timing.

[@igormord8636]

Paul ... thanks for the video. I got lots of POA Annua and possibly Trivialis as well as I had lots of light green spots. Plan was to NOT seed this fall, instead use pre-emergent to prevent POA seeds germinating this winter. Well, I have lots of dead spots ion the lawn possibly from POA dying (specifically in very sunny spots). Really want to pud down good quality seed this fall after aerating. Maybe a faster way is to kill entire spots where I see POA and overseed in fall or some POA seeds will still be out there and germinate, thus, skip fall seeding and just deal with fall pre-emergent? Also, some spots in shade still have the POA live and well, so should I kill them? thanks.

[@ZoysiaRUs]

Did you see any issues applying pgr with your permagreen? I’m about to try Tnex on my low cut zoysia and unsure if the broadcast nozzle has adequate coverage?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

No pgr out of the permagreen is great

[@TMG363]

After using this last year would you still recommend it for a 30% infestation of poa trivialis in a fescue bluegrass yard? Southern Ohio moist clay soil.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Yes I haven’t had time to get it out yet this season but will probably get it on some fescue yards this week

[@BelgianBillie]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts does it slow down the other grasses too?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

@@BelgianBillie the vertical growth will slow ... that the idea of a growth regulator. The plant will have more energy for root growth, making a thicker grass canopy and helping with turf stress from mowing from too much surge growth

[@BlacGyver]

I'm having a problem with what looks like rescuegrass. I'm wondering if it will work on that..

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Velflo68 I don’t know. That’s a tough one in fescue

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Is the sheath purple? ... it could just be annual Ryegrass

[@BlacGyver]

I'm not sure, it's all over my city, Dallas TX, I sent a video and pictures on IG

[@wckimj]

thanks for the info! do you know or have you added a WDG such as Prodiamine at the same time?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

wayne - I have mixed Anuew with prodiamine WDG and post emergent herbicides with no issues

[@fescuefreddy6529]

That is an interesting thought that I don't disagree with about the Triv!

[@patrickt.7338]

Paul: what about Methiozolin coming out as PoaCure that is in all the journals? I know it is only approved for the golf course industry, but I was just wondering if you had any insight on this new herbicide. Also, what is your current price point for Cx Pro and Xgrn?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Patrick T. On the first one I’m not familiar on the CX shoot me an email [e-mail]

[@dwightevans8772]

Do I need a special type of equipment to put down the growth regulator?

[@chrisholland7184]

Paul, What is your go to Poa Annua chemical for warm season turf? Bermudagrass specifically. We use Monument and it’s expensive. Was wondering if there were cheaper alternatives.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Chris Holland monument is a good one .... lots of things would work but the cheapest if you have some warm temps above 65 and dormant Bermudagrass... glyphosate

[@rodmarquardt5099]

Certainty is an option. When dormant SureGuard is another option (bermuda grass only).

[@fragglerock122]

I know this is old but im gonna try this stuff out this next week hopefully on some poa annua, see what it does , great info thank you

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

The growth regulator is great for the turf during spring surge growth… the poa control is just a side effect

[@fragglerock122]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts thats a side effect ill take

[@elizard]

I can't find anything about mowing timing on the label before using Anuew. Do you have suggestions?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

elizard now it first

[@chevyvega6622]

so this is a regulation of growth until the heat wave comes and eliminates the plant all together, and if seed stalks are present a good pre emergent will be in order as well? Does this or has this bleached out the lawn a bit such as tenacity is capable of delivering?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

It doesn’t bleach the lawn actually improved the color... I will have to wait to see long term results

[@smith2109]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts It's been almost a year, are you planning to apply this product this season. I purchased a bag which I plan to apply in a couple days. Poa A and T are bad this year. I look forward to seeing what this product can do for me.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

@@smith2109 I am if I get time... I’m still spraying weeds as hard as I can go right now

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

@@smith2109 you will like it

[@jonduncan1092]

thank you Paul

[@bigdrumnc378]

Pual.....so basically it thickens the fescue and crowds the poa out? If the poa is already seeding is it too late to apply? Realistically can it be blanket sprayed with a backpack sprayer? Thanks!!!!!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Fish Duck no my understanding is that it will actually knock it back ... that is what is so exciting about this .. and yeah I think you could get it out with a backpack

[@bigdrumnc378]

Thanks! I need to brush up on my math, you applied it at one pound per acre?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Fish Duck yes ... that would come up around (.37) of an ounce per k

[@bigdrumnc378]

Dang you got me looking into a site one account and dusting off the tee jets! Pretty much 4 week window for here in nc .....East of you?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Fish Duck where’s the closest site one to out there?

[@jackmarley2755]

Cool, thank you for the information.

[@damonwilliams8327]

Hey Paul, do you do any work in wake county? Or any providers you recommend from the area? Also any chance you are breaking up those pallets of X-green

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Damon Williams email me at [e-mail]

[@stevewilley5185]

Had a customer build a new garage and he brought in a truck load of "topsoil". I offered to reseed that area.Well fescue came up but also solid dalllasgrass too. He thought dalllasgrass came in my seed. Could never convince him it came in his "topsoil" not my seed. Later I round upped the area and reseeded what is now the best fescue area in his lawn.He never tipped or even thanked me. Told him there is not a bag of fescue in the world contaminated with dalllasgrass seed!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Steve Willey yeah you know that was in his dirt

[@markcaldwell3978]

AWESOME PAUL! I'm going to try too! I hate Poa!

[@douloss]

Hey Paul, do you worry about the ph of the tank mix before you add your surfactant?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

No ... unless u are using a surfactant that requires a certain PH

[@dannypinto5767]

Hey, looks like I’m losing the fight against Poa trivialis. I just found out that I have about 50% of it in my lawn that I thought was perennial ryegrass, fine fescue and Kentucky bluegrass. Wondering if anyone has ever tried controlling it by hurting it real bad with certainty or tenacity and then seeding it. Do you think the seeding could overwhelm the poa and be able to dominate?

[@Live4Pin]

A year late to this, but for what it’s worth. I hit it with three applications of tenacity and it went paper white each time, but popped right back within 3 weeks to a month. Seemed to be stronger each time I sprayed. Unfortunately what I learned the hard way is that the ideal way to treat an oversead is exactly what poa likes and needs to thrive as well. My last resort before killing the whole lawn is to dig it out. It’s really unfortunate because my lawn was beautiful and the poa came in some topdressing soil from last fall

[@PacificNorthwestLawns]

Paul, where can we order this Anuew stuff?

[@blowemall]

Got mine ordered last night from Seed World.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

There ya go buddy!!!

[@PacificNorthwestLawns]

@@blowemall thanks!

[@42swissmocha]

After checking prices, Siteone had the best price I could find. I think siteone has an exclusive deal with PBI Gordon, Dow and New Farm. Seems Siteone always has the best price on those three companies products.

[@stepheneckert4006]

Would you say anuew works just as well on triv like it does on poa after using it last year?

[@IHITSEEDS]

What would be the target soil temp to put this out

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

IHITSEEDS For poa control I’m guessing when you have poa presents would be when to get it out

[@stevewilley5185]

Seems like weeds are going to be really plentiful this spring from what I've been seeing. Do seed labels tell us if poa trivialis is in the bag?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Steve Willey I think newer stuff is regulated do tightly as long as you have a blue tag you are good

[@evanfugle7598]

Blue tag bags are certified sod quality seed and are only poa annua free, no guarantee on poa trivialize. My Dad has went to Oregon to breeder farms and none was found we buy 4 train cars every year for our lawn care business and that poa trivializes sucks in the winter/springtime

[@BostianFarms]

Can you spray it out of zoysia with glyphosate? I’m in NC so it’s still dormant right now.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Tyler Bostian nope

[@BostianFarms]

Paul's Prime Cuts what would you recommend to get rid of it.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Tyler Bostian poa in zoysa I would go with something like monument, atrazine&msm, Celsius, katana something along those lines

[@rodmarquardt5099]

@@BostianFarms Certainty.

[@jeffcurtis5389]

Is this something that you would use to control Anua in November after over seeding this fall. Or should you wait until later in the winter ? Thanks for the info

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

These were spring apps.. but yes I think if you got on it earlier (before it flowers) you could really keep it knocked back

[@ShaneBretey]

Could you do some videos on how you run your business?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Shane Bretey poorly 🤣

[@grayfox9911]

Thanks for the videos Paul! Does it help to dig out poa triv? I've dug 20 or 30 gal so far :/

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Gray Fox yes you can dig it out

[@hwkfans]

1 lb per acre? how about the dyi'er with only 10k yard??

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

About 3.5 oz for 10k feet

[@diverfrog]

What? Something effective against POA A and Triv? And not costing an arm? Now you got me interested!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

diverfrog I think this will only run about $75 an acre

[@evanfugle7598]

Man ive tried everything I have white lawns from tenacity how is this different than Primo or tnex?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Evan Fugle it’s a different AI ..... I guess it’s just a side effect that it works on poa ... I don’t have a Scientific answer for you yet, this is the first time I have used it

[@rodmarquardt5099]

Anuew is a growth regulator as is Primo however it is a different mode of action. It's absorbed through the crown and leaf of the plant whereas Primo is absorbed primarily through the roots. There is no discoloration with Anuew. When the product wears off there is no 'rebound' effect where the grass starts to grow crazy fast like happens with Primo. Poa is more sensitive then fescue and so at high rates there is a higher degree of regulation which is showing to be of benefit to let the fescue fill in.

[@Mr1fingersalute]

Maaan! You’re making me feel warm and fuzzy inside!😂 Poa T control with something that’s beneficial to my TTTF/KBG lawn??? I’m in!!

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Robert Butler it worked pretty well ... I got it out a little late ,but if you can start getting it out before the poa flowers it would be even better!

[@Mr1fingersalute]

Paul's Prime Cuts Nice! I’m excited to give it a shot. Whatever species of Poa T I have here, it flowers from late May to September, doesn’t seem to be too affected by heat, and the s*** spreads like fire. SOOOO frustrating! 🤦🏻‍♂️I’m just about ready to throw the towel in so I’m hopeful this can help. Keep it up with the great content brother, THANK YOU! 👊🏻

[@Lawnvolution]

The Outlaw!😎👊

[@Doctaj54]

I see both in bermuda here in the deep south. Image kills poa pretty well. Trivialis...18% Roundup(mix in sprayer) when the bermuda is dormant worked in my yard.

[@kmbernie80]

I am not sure if it is new but just heard about a product called Xonerate. It is supposed to kill Poa Annua. It is very expensive but I am going to split with a few people and try it out

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

It’s pricey

[@Dstromb232]

Can you use any brand growth regulator or should you use Anuew?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

D S the new a.i. In Anuew is the only pgr I’m aware of that is having this effect on poa .... maybe Rod can give you the Scientific answer

[@MrJsams222]

when you take out the Poa Annua, but already have pre-emerg out. Will i just have a deadspot, or should i try to reseed?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Justin Sams chances are there is already fescue mixed in the spot ... if so it may fill in on its own by the fescue plants getting larger. If you need to seed core aerate the spots and the seed should come up even with preemergent

[@Legendary_UA]

If this is a growth inhibitor, won't it affect the turf from growing as well?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

John Wills yes exactly it will slow the vertical growth and send more energy to root production

[@Legendary_UA]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts thanks for the reply. Not sure if that's the way to go or just wait on the heat

[@Legendary_UA]

@@PaulsPrimeCuts I wonder if adding a tiny bit of colorant (green marker dye) would inhibit the product?

[@rodmarquardt5099]

@@Legendary_UA Green dye won't inhibit the product but I don't know what benefit the dye would give you. Anuew generally keeps the turf consistent in color to what it normally would be and in many cases improves the turf color.

[@Checkthefineprint]

I think I’m seeming lots of this in CLT now. It is 😢 awful

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Yeah it’s definitely time for poa to be showing up

[@Checkthefineprint]

Think I can find anuew at site one landscape?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

@@Checkthefineprint they should have it… I get it at Triangle chemical

[@Checkthefineprint]

It does look better after a cut today

[@42swissmocha]

I've got properties around a golf course that have poa greens 🤢

[@rodmarquardt5099]

Anuew may be used on poa greens as a regulator. It's just applied at a much lower rate. It's all dependent on the dose.

[@carlospascual448]

Will image work for poa in Bermuda?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Carlos Pascual yes it will

[@leehopper1]

Have a great day!!!

[@JeffSmith-eq3kc]

So, I have a 1200 square foot bentgrass putting green that I have painstakingly built in my yard (DON'T attempt unless you're ready to spend tons of time and money on it and do it right), but Poa Annua is a huge potential problem. I have it all over my lawn, everywhere. I have zero on my bentgrass. How? Manual labor. Dig it out. That's the only way in my opinion.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

It may blend in with your low mowed green... or you got better preemergent coverage on your putting green ... I really don’t know

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

I think I misunderstood your statement as a question. I would try running Pro grass or poa constrictor in the fall and winter. Then regulating the green with an Anuew/Trim it combination in the growing season and I think you would drastically cut down on your poa problem

[@jonathanhovis1876]

RightLine ETHO 4SC works very well on Poa Annua.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Jonathan Hovis I’ll have to look that one up... I’m not familiar

[@samuelasamoah6906]

What about paclobutrazol?(i hope i spelt it right?

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

Samuel Asamoah Anuew has a unique active ingredient that has very strong activity on poa much more so than paclo

[@jefchaplin6205]

Anuew, I saw what you did there. You pros get all the good crap. 😎

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

jef chaplin play on words there

[@barbfroede1343]

Shane Bretey, I’m just as lame... Pathetic... 🤦🏼‍♀️ BUT, always learn something new from Paul. (He’s so entertaining).

[@stevewilley5185]

On The Grass Factor you learn about Jizz Moppers and other fun facts.

[@PaulsPrimeCuts]

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[@TurfTherapy]

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