PAX South Arena - GW | Fow (Ness) Vs. TSM | Zero (Sheik) SSB4 WS - Smash Wii U -Smash 4

[@Godtierlee]

FOW's mobility in the second game was disgustingly good. His down b's were on point.

[@Rareware0192]

Very good Ness play! Looking forward to more Fow in the future.

[@aabrarrahman4129]

+Rareware0192 You could say that you're looking fow-ard to it. Eh? Eh? :D ... :'D I'll go now.

[@Rareware0192]

+Aabrar Rahman No. Stay. That was beautiful.

[@Pixxeltrixx]

dude zero went ham on that last stock that man is bonkers

[@tas562]

+Bayonetta oml I see you complaining about zero everywhere, shut up

[@tas562]

+Bayonetta then why not respect pix's opinion? Hypocrisy at its finest

[@TheGanonking]

I mean at least he took a game off the champ 👏🏾

[@Dr.Jean_Pepper]

Zero's Sheik is in a tier all by itself

[@Dr.Jean_Pepper]

***** didn't know, didn't see the stream,

[@Bunnykiller109]

+d2d2dlm No, Zero said that he always loses to sheik dittos. Vinny beat Zero at sheik dittos all the time

[@ThePaintedHope]

+Jeten98 Don't know about that. Sheik is the best char in the game. And zero is the best player, but he is defenitely not the best Sheik. Best diddy though.

[@Dr.Jean_Pepper]

ThePaintedHope true

[@ninjaturtletyke3328]

match up preference is a real thing. Just because zero can't sheik ditto does not mean he is not the best sheik in the world. When mango was the best player in the world he never foxed dittoed but he still had the best fox in the world. The fact is if zero can beat every player in the world besides a few sheik players with sheik, then that makes him the best shiek in the world because the other sheik mains can't.

[@Tecaluca]

FOW has been putting in work recently

[@jimmyboyj2]

Zero is so conscious of every minute detail of everything that goes on at any time. It's honestly mind-boggling how on top of things he is, he's so smart with every decision and adaption he makes. I don't understand sometimes when people don't enjoy watching him, because I always enjoy such fast, high level play.

[@BigDeepz]

Holy crap Fow. Amazing stuff from your Ness. Applause!

[@LordEruvala]

13:56 You get 2 slow claps from esam if you take a game off zero. Neat

[@kaylen8705]

Is anyone missing nairo in any resent tourneys?, its been awhile since I've last seen a set from him

[@dennisanderson8017]

dude. TwitchTv.

[@lethalpenguin61]

Dude this is literally the only big one he didn't go to he went to ktar genesis and goes to weeklies not everything is on vgbootcamp noob

[@meosk]

+lethalpenguin61 and the award for unneeded aggression goes to...

[@kaylen8705]

Löwenherz lol ikr

[@MetalxSoldier]

+exspiravit noctis He has a point though. I mean if you need nairo so much hit up his twitch. Calling you a noob is spot on and isn't the most aggressive term in the world. lol @ the +19 comment

[@battom9290]

dude fow is so hype to watch he did really great considering he went against the best sm4sh player in the world, respect to this man fow

[@sampettit8566]

same get up option everytime in the first stock??

[@CarlosMW]

>ZeRo >USA >He is from Chile rip :c

[@CarlosMW]

+Flippy oh....you have a good point (yes...my english suck :/ )

[@xavcast007]

+Flippy It was a an errorr

[@DJmisterpeluca]

+Carlosmasterwings Ahora sé de donde vienes :)

[@samuelokirby]

+Carlosmasterwings he not only lives in the United States but is in an American team

[@CarlosMW]

+Sam Burns oh....lol this is a good point

[@barrelrolldog]

jeheeeeezus that backthrow on the second match was hype! fow is a great ness player. the second and third matches were great to watch him clawing it back. first and last matches were brutal though.

[@lewatermelon9776]

The up b could have saved fow right?

[@IndiePunkRockKiddo]

+LeWatermelon Yeah if FOW got caught with any of the hitboxes.

[@jacekader8861]

Sometimes ZeRo plays pretty boring. He never goes for the meteors or goes offstage. I get that he wants to win, but I mean, smash was meant to be a party fighting game.

[@MegaReedX]

What does the fact that it was meant to be a party fighting game have to do with anything

[@jacekader8861]

It means that it was meant to be fun, not just camping onstage all game.

[@MegaReedX]

Yeah I agree zero matches aren't that fun to watch for me

[@Niko-zr7ky]

Jace Kader i know this is a really late reply but i disagree when you are level playing at a competitive like a tournement friendlies tho thats a different story

[@ducklandstrawberry2073]

His career is playing smash, hes making a living off of playing smash. hes going to win by any means necessary.

[@jasonfencer5433]

I didn't know Tarzan played sm4sh

[@bessard100]

+Jason Fencer try again

[@spiritual8838]

Lol

[@michaelmerjil7334]

great matches. fow is one of my favorite ness', and zero is just a beast. props to both players.

[@magiccleric5154]

When needles actually did 0% @5:51

[@bruinsgirl3398]

ZeRo's Sheik is something else!!! Been trying to decide whether to use Sheik or Marth as my main secondary and I love watching both ZeRo and Mr. R matches to try to learn.

[@tylergosdin4260]

Fow's getup options seemed really predictable. He never seemed to roll onto stage that whole stock. Any ness mains know if Ness' getup roll is slow or easily reactable?

[@Doctor_Tumnus]

He absolutely did roll onto stage the announcers even mentioned it. He got grabbed every time

[@alfanauta]

That Needless spamming puag disgusting way to play, what a sad scene Zero has created for Sm4sh

[@FallingStarDX]

haha lol. needles are sheik's best tool, and zero used them to edgeguard the heck out of FOW.

[@anthonybaker3476]

He's just saying it's lame. It's all subjective. Personally, I find it boring but I understand why he does it. Who cares? It's a game.

[@albertchen5881]

+alfanauta ZeRo plays how he wants, respect his decisions (its not like he has won 50 something tournaments in a row or anything). This isn't sad when it comes to playing competitively.

[@Ivao.]

whatever, sakurai just RAPED sheik and her needles.

[@SandraThePhox]

Only a zero has to use top tiers to win (⌐□_□)

[@iParadoxify]

+tecdog15 Seconded

[@axessoul]

8:43 Lol look at Sheik's arms😂

[@xeno4530]

Ik im late but lol!

[@ShadowLink678]

In game 2, ZeRo's shiekd went sooooo far past the blast zone hahaha

[@MaxNMotion]

That first match was Tough, FOW really couldn't get in on Zero. It seems like Ness is a character that relies heavily on his thunder for recovery, making him predictable and easy to edge-guard. Also, FOW kind of looks like Jesse Eisenberg in the Batman vs Superman movie. Just saying.

[@yoshiyo660]

Sheik will forever remain top tier thanks to ZeRo, which I'm actually glad to see because I think Sheik is fair (no pun intended). Although Sheik is so tough to beat, you have to dedicate a lot of time into practice to get good :)

[@epicsteve6548]

So this is high level Smash play? Nice!

[@tatsumiyasahiro2209]

lmao the hate on ZeRo is funny to look at. ok, think of yourself in this situation. youve successfully become the #1 Sm4sh player at EVO, and now the big leagues that got you to this glory are coming. do you really think this is the time to try to play stylish or mix things up? he's just trying to keep up what he's built. sure, he uses top tiers. and especially wiyh sheik, uses specific moves A LOT. but he's just trying to stay in his current place, he's trying to win. its not like complaining and trashing on his playstyle is going to change anything

[@tatsumiyasahiro2209]

with*

[@fatturnip779]

Cool story

[@filamese7298]

+Tatsumi Yasahiro I agree, its not like he's playing to make a name for himself. he's playing for money and to win

[@Adventureruler]

+Tatsumi Yasahiro Let's just all be happy that Sakurai nerfed the fuck out of Shiek.

[@Super_Jumpz]

+Adventureruler ZeRo makes a living off smash, so I wouldn't be too happy if I were him.

[@RichardBlaziken]

All these butthurt comments. Competitive players play to win by any means necessary. git gud or get out

[@Link24a]

This

[@mike-xm2jt]

Play Lame:Win Game

[@RichardBlaziken]

Joseph Franc Never said he was, really. I don't even consider "lame" to be a playstyle. If you're playing to win, you make whatever choices get you there.

[@elv3a424]

+Bayonetta Bayonetta has absolutely brainless combos. It's so boring, when you know that it's going to happen. All bayonetta players are fucking cheap. They are all shit and can't win without her brainless combo. Do you see what you sound like? Why aren't Zelda players getting any hate? The whole character is based around camping. Yet you complain about needlecamping with Shiek. ZeRo doesn't play for your entertainment. He doesn't care if his playstyle pleases you. He needs money, and he earns that by using his character's best tools.

[@xavcast007]

+Ew0lfo Play lame=Win game=play to win

[@cyncynshop]

6:50 HYPE

[@heavystorming]

Fow could be The best Ness ever seen un this series, respect. Disrespect to that "miss Edge guard" just fix it The Fow.

[@erickorduno3569]

Damn. Not to complain but Sheik's needles are pretty OP. I think that at least half the damage ZeRo was dealing was from needles.

[@psigamma4158]

funny thing is they can be absorbed by Ness' Down B

[@karlols2321]

+PSIGamma no... they cant

[@Jariece]

The stretcher 😂

[@Adventureruler]

Thank fucking god Shiek was nerfed. he first game looked fucking annoying to play as Ness against Shiek

[@gracismart]

Even now, shiek is a terrible MU for Ness

[@js100serch]

If the other guy would have played like Zero. this would be a really boring fight. Just two guys waiting for each other to make a mistake to attack. Thats why I hate Wii U players they don't have balls.

[@HaxeRain]

the thing is that the wii u/3ds smash game doesnt benefit an really agro gameplay in some cases, cause you cnat do things like puff up throw into rest so easily, it recompensates more a neutral game with hard punishes, intead the level it has melee, i dont say sm4sh is bad but is like that

[@kendrick5501]

whenever I see ZeRo playing in this vid, feels very predictable to know how it will end

[@sympathy_for_strays]

When Zero just fucking kicked Fow's PK Thunder at 11:31... that guy is next level.

[@Pk-yi3wx]

Why can't zero use another non top tier characters -_- I know he uses shulk but still he needs to have more variety.

[@linganore123]

Zero doesn't use shulk lol

[@gaiamster]

Why would he do that

[@zeo1087]

+Pk41 No, he doesn't need to "have more variety". He's trying to win, not appeal to the spectators.

[@Pk-yi3wx]

***** I did not know he did this for a living :l

[@countnelrim2774]

He plays quite a bit of diddy

[@closingpython5462]

idk wut to say

[@smuuggggg]

That Ness kept making the same damn mistakes and kept getting launched off the stage...

[@phantommoon11]

I know how embarrassing...even I don't make mistakes like that. Sigh. I do have to give FOW some credit. Still I've seen better Ness mains.

[@joboFGC]

Dang. I'm getting demoralized just watching this set. Zero's sheik is patient!

[@juniorduperval5732]

*yawn* at least fow was entertaining

[@atari9477]

Smash players play for money not entertainment..

[@juniorduperval5732]

2dKraken OK and?

[@atari9477]

Junior Duperval No "and", that's all I got to say. -__-

[@juniorduperval5732]

2dKraken OK then stfu dumbass bitch

[@gangamshow5945]

How fow played so bad

[@closingpython5462]

spsososos

[@Schamploo44]

people love hating on the champ. this happens in every sport/competitive game. words mean nothing cuz he wins constantly. people can rewatch his matches to come up with a counter but his skill lvl is ridiculous. When money is on the line people do whatever to win. so to all the haters.... join a tournament and try and beat zero if it gets under your skin so much

[@patkuoneflickgod1114]

Zero all day. #GrandMasterShiek

[@GoodGuyNickPT]

This was rather boring to watch xD

[@SSDOSCORE]

Zero playing go on

[@gaiamster]

LETS GO FATHER ZERO YOU SHOWED THAT TRASH NESS.

[@Tecaluca]

+LOCAS PKFIRA DERP FOW is the best Ness in the world he's nowhere near trash lol

[@gaiamster]

+SS•TecaLuca fow is garbage zero's ness is better

[@Tecaluca]

+LOCAS PKFIRA DERP ZeRo doesn't even have a Ness lmao

[@gaiamster]

+SS•TecaLuca my dad has every character even sorra

[@fatturnip779]

The best ness in the world but okay

[@xavcast007]

People in the comments are salt as fuck :V

[@Rock-hn9ur]

This is a party game it shouldn't be in competitive play lmao play a real fighting game like Street fighter or Killer Instinct or MKX now those games take real skills

[@aabrarrahman4129]

+Tirzo Ochoa The bait is strong with this one lol

[@tas562]

+Aabrar Rahman lol

[@falcondorf]

Nobody told you how to play this game. Whoever bought this game with real money should do whatever he desires with it. They could use it as a cutting board for all I care, I'm not gonna tell people what they should do with their belongings.

[@elicorder5330]

oh please, this is a literally universal game, one for ALL people, oh I mean except for" real gamers" like yourself.

[@elicorder5330]

+Eli Corder and need I bring up the evo situation

[@cyncynshop]

6:50 HYPE