PB Swiss vs Wera Ratchet Drivers Comparison!

[@Lion_Hamza]

My teacher once told me as a young child that we swiss don’t have to many resources to our disposal. But we have one thing that can differentiate us from all other’s. This is our work ethics and our precision. As long we keep on holding on this values everything will be ok.

[@tukkus2]

I Keep my PB Swiss tools in hello kitty pouches so no one steals them. And don’t let anyone use them. They will be ruined. Great content as always.

[@MillisConstruction]

I’ve seen that hello Kitty pouch on another tool channel before 😜

[@rickydavis1051]

I just got a bunch of my PB Swiss items in from the tool lady and the quality is unbelievable. Most of my hand tools are Wera. Love their stuff. When it comes to the screwdrivers though, the PB Swiss is the best around (sorry Snap-on fans). On a side note, the PB Swiss bits I have are the best I’ve ever worked with!

[@MATTE.U.K]

Just ordered one I’m confident from my research this is the best screwdriver in the world as of 2022.

[@lastbesttool]

Good comparison.. I have both as well and completely concur. Thanks.

[@accountshanahan]

Have the Wera, Stahlwille and Facom then got the PB, absolutely no contest. The PB Swiss is different class, zero shaft wobble which is amazing on a rachet driver and like you say the extra bit storage and the magnet. 10/10 but eye wateringly expensive!

[@jts4233]

@Hand Tool Reviews You mean 15 degrees per click of the rachet?

[@MrMyhalych]

Sounds like you need to try Gedore 3031691 😀

[@guydesnoyers8417]

I had a feeling you weren't going back to the Wera! Beautiful tool, the PB Swiss

[@richardhodgson7443]

Great channel, thanks for sharing your content on tools, coming at you from UK. 🙏

[@rothlive]

I agree. We are here in tool heaven. Vera is very good and Pb Swiss is tool heaven.

[@three-phase562]

Nice, I don't own any PB Swiss tools, I really should get hold of some one day.

[@1stinlastout165]

Great review I have both . Take a look at the facom ratchet driver the latter as become my favourite!

[@MrTooljunkie]

Really like all your videos. Thanks for putting these out there.

[@ivanberkovitz9075]

I have enjoyed almost all of your tool reviews that I was able to find on KZbin. Lots of excellent info presented with a light touch. I will though admit that I am unable to replicate the ease with which you are able to open the bits compartment. Clearly I am not very skillful, I just recognize excellent tool quality.

[@dustinhess6798]

Hi All I am service engineer for a company that makes electron microscopes. I have bunch of pb swiss tools blades, allen wrenches etc.. cant say enough good things about them. This ratchet handle hand been on my wish list for a while. Finally pulled the trigger today.

[@JMc.D]

As a diyer/hobbyist the Wera is suiting me well. Arguably I have no business with such a fine tool for what I need. Even if I used it every single day I would find it hard to make the jump to the pb Swiss.

[@januszR]

Try the Wera 1/4 Zyklop. Incredible tool (also available in 3/4 and 1/2)... spinning, 72 teeth instead of 24 (Pb), turning head for more torque... it's really good.

[@MillisConstruction]

Absolutely! I have maybe 3 of those 😅 I think they’re featured in a few videos here on the channel like my favorite sink basin tool, 1/4” ratchet set video and some others. That’s a super handy tool! Happy New Year!!

[@januszR]

@@MillisConstruction ok cool, sorry haven't watched those yet. Happy new year, too! :)

[@MrMyhalych]

And incredibly wobbling… For price, they can do a 1/4 square better.

[@johnpelkey1375]

Great review! I generally like the right screwdriver for the job if I have my tool belt on, but to just carry a few tools, like in a service bag, these would be great. I have a few PB Swiss precision drivers and their quality is amazing.

[@marcellindner2206]

Hey Josef please test these ones: Inbus Flow 73424, Hazet 810R-4 or the Gedore 2169-012.

[@testaccount2343]

Wera is quite expensive and they produce in Czech Republic and Taiwan. As a german, I prefer PBSwiss.

[@tientoannguyen9942]

me too. i agree with you. love the hex key wrench best of them product

[@bladee_enjoyer540]

One question on the PB Swiss, the one thing I don't like about the Wera is how much play the ratcheting mechanism has when it's in the middle position. On mine it's a good few degrees of rotation. How much does the PB Swiss have?

[@tientoannguyen9942]

pb swiss is the best screw driver and hex key but i don't have money :v 😂😂😂

[@rickydavis1051]

None at all

[@Raul-ef2ie]

I bought 4 of the red ones, 2 had a lot more play than the other 2 so maybe its better to compare a couple if possible

[@MillisConstruction]

Mine has just a slight amount of play (R-100 version). Nothing like the Wera has though 😅

[@harry3338]

I just replaced my wera ratcheting screwdriver with the pbswiss. The only things not Ideal is the Wera has less backdrag and onboard bit storage, but the shaftwobble on the wera is driving my nuts the pbswiss is solid

[@eivindhavik]

I had to order one after watching your review 👍

[@MillisConstruction]

Awesome! Which one did you go with?

[@WYOMINGBEN]

Could you do a video on your Hotel maintenance side gig? I live in tourist town with tons of hotel rooms. Thanks.

[@MillisConstruction]

I’m working on a way to do that, I have to be pretty careful as I’d like to not lose the contract and I know that has happened to some other people here on youtube when they did things like that. That’s the main reason I haven’t yet but I will work on a way to pull it off 😁

[@ShadowBoxer]

@@MillisConstruction Hi, That sounds like a good reason not to. However as with anything, it’s all in the presentation. If a potential employee told you in their job interview that they killed someone, you might be surprised. You might consider that a dealbreaker and no way am I hiring this guy. If they explained their family was the victim of a home invasion robbery thing and that’s when they ended up killing someone, defending their family, now you might think that sounds reasonable or even a good idea. For this, I would not say you have a KZbin channel and you make tool videos, as a side hustle, etc. I would say you are putting together a series of instructional/ educational videos that you plan on putting on your Millie Construction KZbin channel and if you get enough demonstrations you might put together a DVD series or something like that - It doesn’t matter if you ever do. You are just trying to help out new guys and pay-it-forward for others who might not even be in the same city. Then ask (owners, management, etc.) if they want to help out. Specify that these will not be videos about the hotels or their property, just on maintenance jobs and the tools involved. They might want to participate. If they say no thanks, that’s fine too. Nothing has happened yet, you were just running the idea by them. On a related note (assuming you get permission), you might want to have a basic contract drawn up OFFICIALLY giving you permission to record and FULL ownership of the videos.

[@lukasmartinelli1291]

I'm very interested in the PB swiss one. Does the 8510-100 have internal storage like this one?

[@MillisConstruction]

The 8510R 100? I don’t think it does. I don’t have that series driver but everything I’ve looked at hasn’t shown any internal storage. It would be fantastic if it had the same design as their ratcheting stubby though

[@chrisfyfe9212]

ATM , PB is #1 , but I now also carry a Wera Turbo ( rapid turning , - the negative side effects of powered stuff ! I do commit one sacrilege, just so I can interchange ammo between powered , and non powered drivers ( ie: M12 Surge ) , I keep a few impact bits in my PB Magazine ( hopefully the Swiss gods will forgive me ) . I also keep a Wera ratcheting driver , as a spare !

[@oscarmontes4066]

How heavy is the pb I had a Klein ratchet driver and its so heavy and clunky I used it maybe a few times and tossed it out

[@MillisConstruction]

The PB 6510 R100 is 8.5 oz according to my scale today.

[@RadioSaigons]

Interesting. I’ve not long ago picked up the Rolgear 15-in-1. Checked it out, following your video. Very comparable, around USD$40. I also own a beginners selection of Wera & Knipex products, many on your recommendation

[@MillisConstruction]

I’ve heard good things about the RolGear drivers but I’ve not tried one out yet

[@meshark03]

@@MillisConstruction I’d heard hazet 810R-4 is based on / licensed from RolGear. Have one and it’s all I’ve used since picking it up.

[@chrisfyfe9212]

@@MillisConstruction They are quite good , as of now they don’t have too many options . I had one , the reversing control didn’t feel very positive ( I gave it to the Lady Painter , on one of my jobs ( She loved it ) !

[@BL-yj2wp]

@@meshark03 It‘s made by Oplast in Slovenia, Gedore and some others also rebrand that tool in slightly different configurations. And they are nice indeed, the almost non existent back drag is just fantastic.

[@airmikey001]

Fabulous content in your videos! Just curious if you have tried the Facom ratcheting screwdriver? I tried a friends one once and didn’t want to give it back!

[@fredthehead4603]

Recently purchased PB Swiss 100mm and 30mm ratcheting multi-bit drivers. Wanted a PB Swiss ratcheting stubby, but no joy. Found stubbies on eBay, but I refuse to pay the prices charged. Oh, well…don’t know if or when the PB Swiss ratcheting stubby will be made available again.

[@MillisConstruction]

They’ve gotten incredibly hard to find!

[@NWGR]

I had that wera and didn't like it at all. I'm a huge wera fan and have a ton of their screwdrivers and bit holders, but that one just didn't do it for me. On two different drivers the ratcheting mechanism kept getting stuck between locked and either direction. I have 3 of the 816 RA ratcheting bit holders and those don't have that issue. Getting that pb swiss very soon.

[@januszR]

Try the Wera 1/4 Zyklop. Incredible... spinning, 72 teeth instead of 24 (Pb), turning head for more torque

[@NWGR]

@Hand Tool Reviews Yeah, probably a dud. Like I said, I have three of the 816 RA ratcheting bit holders and they all perform as expected. Which is odd as they appear to use the same ratcheting mechanism.

[@PredxRaptor]

how would you compare the handle grips on both of these?

[@johnnyrangel6685]

Thanks man! I like your tool videos

[@danstoolroom7700]

Nice mate question though, the pb swiss hass improvements but at twice the price is it and improvment over the were or is it twicw the driver.

[@MillisConstruction]

I won’t be going back to Wera ratchet drivers personally, the Pb is too much nicer. The price point though makes it where it’s definitely not for everyone. It’s not a “need” tool, it’s a “want” lol you know me, if there’s a better version of a tool I use every day I definitely want it.

[@theSawyerSolution]

Have you had any trouble with the magnet retaining debris? Is it easy to clean any file shavings from it?

[@MillisConstruction]

I haven’t really but I usually keep a bit in all my magnetic drivers. I could see it being an issue if you didn’t possibly but I really can’t say how hard to clean it would be as I haven’t had to. Maybe someone on here has and can speak to that issue.

[@Ender_Wiggin]

When are you getting a the LTT screw driver?

[@ToolBoys]

My favorite is the Swisstool

[@capnnslapaho-5644]

That’s the PB Swiss PB 6510 R-100 if anyone is trying to look it up I’m pretty sure

[@littlejimmy7402]

I've got a Wera ratcheting stubby (I love it like a puppy), I've got the Wera chiseltip set, and the lasercut set on the way. I have a PB Swiss 6 way precision screwdriver that I love. I want that PB Swiss you have there soooo bad. At least of a day or so ago, you just can't get the 100mm size very many places. Toolhaus or someone has it for like 80 or 90 USD, I'm not ready to reach that high especially when the Wera up there is about half the price. But, I am holding out (at least for now) for the PB Swiss. Hey, if you talk to the toollady I bet you could get a few of us to commit to a group buy or something. But then again, if they aren't available they aren't available.

[@musikus7092]

What about the PB 8510(the red one)?

[@realstaceylewis]

How do you like that Tajima tape measure or you just like it for looks?

[@MillisConstruction]

They sent me several and I’ve ended up using the G3 all the time. The one there is just a super classy looking tape and I thought I’d switch to it if I wore out the G3 but the thing is built like a tank lol

[@PittsburghCrawling]

I have a question, I just ordered the PB Swiss tool shown, is the grip hard plastic or that typical Pb Swiss red rubber ish grip?

[@MillisConstruction]

The black ratcheting one is hard black plastic and not the red rubbery material.

[@PittsburghCrawling]

Do you know if they plan to make a rubber red handle with the 10 bit holder? Mine finally came in and I was even thinking about dipping the handle in rubberized coating

[@MillisConstruction]

@@PittsburghCrawling I wish they’d do the red full size with a bit magazine like the stubbies have to be honest. Would be super nice!

[@bilakos1987]

I bet you could have a bit or two length-wise between those ten bits as well.

[@lugattinine8451]

I think I am gonna go for the PB Swiss one.. that just sounds so satisfying to use.. also the Price difference in Germany is only ~10€ 🙏🏻

[@MillisConstruction]

Oh it is so satisfying 😁🔥

[@tonydelgrego2906]

Could you give a link to that pb Swiss ratchet

[@MillisConstruction]

toollady.com/store/6510-Ratcheting-Insider-Pro-p65966456

[@zaliocheng3956]

Hello, bro, I received my pb screwdriver, but I found that the sound made by its ratchet when it rotated was a little strange. The sound of rotating for a week was inconsistent and the sound of rotation in different directions was also different. I don't know if this is a quality problem. Have you encountered this situation?thanks a lot🙏🙏

[@fletcha7777]

@millis construction is this the same screwdriver I can't tell if this one has the bits in the handle here is the listing of what it is...‎PB Swiss ‎8510R-100 ?

[@MillisConstruction]

That is the red handle and it does not have bit storage. It does have the same nice ratchet system though. The 6510R-100 has the bit storage and is the one on this video.

[@Seedthedrummer]

Keep the great content coming. 👍

[@Kleiner_Lutz]

I thought of getting the pb swiss, but instead I opted for the one I got at work: the berner megapro 14-in-1 (old version). It may not be ratcheting or have a removable bitholder like the wera kraftform, but it's got 7 double-ended bits in the handle, meaning you get 14 sizes. Torx, flat, pozi and philips. Don't care much for the flatheads, but the torx bits are essentials and even the pozis and philips, each sized 1 to 3, get used more often than I expected. You should check and maybe even try it out, if you can 😉

[@MillisConstruction]

I’ve heard great things about the mega pro but aren’t they proprietary bits, as in none but theirs will replace any in the driver? You mess up a tip or lose one? I had that issue with a couple Klein drivers I had and it made me a bit allergic to ones that won’t take off the rack bit types

[@Kleiner_Lutz]

@@MillisConstruction unfortunately yes. The double ended construction makes them not fit in other driver handles, also regular 1/4 inch bit would fit in the megapro, but would just slide back and not be usable. That's a huge disadvantage, as a matter of fact I got an unusable megapro in my work car that I inherited from a coworker that's missing most of the bits so I can't use it. But just the amount of different bits you get without having to carry an extra bit kit makes that up for me

[@beanieweenie9543]

You should try the Williams ratcheting screw driver she is a dandy of a tool.

[@tedmcdonald3377]

Thanks Josef 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎

[@kortlenconrad7344]

Quick question, have you had any issues with the PB Swiss magazine accidentally opening/ how rigid is the handle when fully opened?!

[@MillisConstruction]

You might have to explain what you mean by “how rigid is the handle when fully open”. This is a solid plastic and not the softer grips that are on their single drivers like the rainbow versions so there’s really not any flex in the materials I’ve had no issues with it popping open, it has a really solid click when closed.

[@kyon_kyonstar]

Could you check out the Linus tech tips screwdriver when it comes out. I would like to see how a KZbinr's custom made screwdriver competes with these two drivers

[@MillisConstruction]

Do you have a link to the information on that maybe? I’m curious 😁

[@Trillian]

Awesome video! Thank you

[@Q-Bits8]

I'm from Switzerland and of course I use PB Swiss tools for everything I can. Thank god these tools are cheaper here compared to the US (import fees, customs...). Funny you confuse Switzerland with Sweden in the video, it's kind of a running gag here that all Americans do that. Loved the review though

[@MillisConstruction]

Surely I didn’t say Sweden? My family is actually from Sweden but I’m usually pretty clear that PB is Switzerland

[@Q-Bits8]

@@MillisConstruction 10:30 you did, but instantly noticed

[@danstoolroom7700]

Also i cany even find that pb swiss on a google search

[@MillisConstruction]

toollady.com/store/6510-Ratcheting-Insider-Pro-p65966456

[@rickydavis1051]

I own both and it’s such a close call lol

[@davereed6612]

I think you’d like the canadian tool company “rolgear” 15-in-1 ratcheting screwdriver. It actually doesn’t use teeth it uses a roller bearing system so it has invincible back and forth ratcheting action. If you can’t get them in the US. Send me a P.O. Box and I’ll buy you one and send it.

[@espressomatic]

In almost 40 years of using screwdrivers, I still can't find a reason for using a ratcheting model. But if you're looking for the best, it's Megapro and LTT (made by Megapro).

[@jeremytine]

and have to deal with a LTT "trust me bro" warranty? no thanks not to mention $80 for a Chinese made screwdriver seems overpriced. PB Swiss generally rates higher. But I agree that ratcheting drivers seem like a gimmick. I'm just as fast or faster with a fixed shaft that won't have clearance issues in tight/deep spaces.

[@BLASTIC0]

its alllllll about shaft wobble. C’mon Wera, steps it up.

[@MillisConstruction]

You’d think they could do better on that 😒

[@thecarproconnoisseur5412]

One thing you didn’t mention that I think would be a huge factor is ergonomics, to me it seems like I would like the feel of the wera handle a lot more.

[@thecarproconnoisseur5412]

@Hand Tool Reviews yea I have the ratcheting pistol grip screwdriver with internal storage..it does feel different than the normal drivers..idk about the one he’s showing but mine has some weight to it and in no way feels cheap..idk how you’d make something hollow feel the same as a solid piece of rubber/plastic..of any brand

[@tookitogo]

The Wera handle is a “love it or hate it” thing. Me, I can’t stand the Wera handles, but there are folks who love them. I love the PB Swiss SwissGrip handles.

[@Volkmannx]

👍

[@capnnslapaho-5644]

Hey could you do a video on pb Swiss bits and the sizes?? Like what would be a #2 😂

[@MillisConstruction]

I sure can, I have a big order of stuff coming so I’ll have to see if I have enough to explain it all. Makes for some confusing ordering sometimes

[@capnnslapaho-5644]

@@MillisConstruction I really appreciate that hope you have a good day always enjoy the quality videos you put out!

[@xxllljumpman23]

Is the tool lady going to bless us with a promo code?

[@MrTooljunkie]

Thankful21 is good through this weekend...25% off

[@ktm250xcw]

Too close for me to switch to PB Swiss + I love how WERA looks and feels better.

[@georgegonzalez-rivas3787]

Question: How many $100+ screwdrivers do I have to buy to force a divorce?

[@MillisConstruction]

Definitely more than I have lol. We celebrated our 10th anniversary in January 😅

[@georgegonzalez-rivas3787]

@@MillisConstruction I'm even more impressed by your wife's attitude than by your array of expensive tools.

[@ste-c1218]

Wera far better value.... 👍🏻

[@renesalinas9491]

Sure PB is more prizise - you pay the extra.

[@MillisConstruction]

Definitely depends on your needs. Everyone doesn’t “Need” a PB swiss or even a Wera 😁 Have an awesome weekend and thanks for checking it out!

[@renesalinas9491]

Les Mechanik is more reliable.

[@SkyBridgeRE]

Wera $45, PB $89… both too expensive for what they are.. definitely can’t justify the PB being worth 2x Wera.

[@captainmigs1655]

Pb Swiss has lifetime warranty

[@wessamazzo8856]

It's pronounced forward not Ford,

[@MillisConstruction]

Not going to change the way I talk and I wouldn’t ask you to either. Have a good day!

[@musikus7092]

I think this PB Swiss Tool 6510 is NOT made in Switzerland!

[@brom4039]

PB Swiss is a small Company in Switzerland. They produce every of thier Product there. Check thier Homepage out. They tell and show you everything.

[@Ninja_Revenge]

Wera hex bit corroded in 1 week. PB swiss keys and bits are 100% corrosion resistant!

[@Cujobob]

Meh, that likely means more free chromium which also means it’s not going to be as hard or tough.