wth? less than 5 minutes in, I'm already sold against it.
@odellus24 күн бұрын
go watch qualifying. this stuff happens less often than it does on freefall.
@keyser45623 күн бұрын
@@odellus lol, I don't know what kinds of alleys you've been bowling at, but that's a total non-starter for me, and should be for the PBA as well.
@chaos085223 күн бұрын
I’m not a fan, bowled on string pins in the nineties whilst in Belgium. If it means that bowling alleys can survive, then I’m ok with it.
@Krranski23 күн бұрын
@@chaos0852 Strings will not make bowling cheaper, not in the US, at least. It will only be used as a means to maximize profits, add to that corporate consolidation (Bowlero). One thing and one thing only can save bowling and that is accessibility for the common person on a regular basis.
@Zurround23 күн бұрын
@@chaos0852 What the hell does "string" mean? I don't see any string? People keep saying "string" but I don't see string. is it code for something?
@jefferydaniels671724 күн бұрын
Commentator, quit trying to sell the strings please.
@remoevans784723 күн бұрын
It’s most likely going to happen whether armchair experts like it or not.
@bowlnow82423 күн бұрын
@@remoevans7847 yes it will. Definitely going to happen.
@shannondingus843023 күн бұрын
This is embarrassing.. just act like you don't see what's obvious
@derekash682123 күн бұрын
String pins are trash
@jefferydaniels671723 күн бұрын
@@remoevans7847 Sadly I agree. Houses being sold on being able to fire their mechanics and save money.
@williamoleary141023 күн бұрын
A PBA tournament with string pins? Ridiculous
@reggiefrederick159321 күн бұрын
Why?
@Mememememememe12321 күн бұрын
@@reggiefrederick1593did you not see some of the ridiculous spares being made because the string knocked it over? String pins should strictly be for average bowlers, not pba level bowlers…
@bowlnow82421 күн бұрын
Understand something. The center and sponsors forked out thousands of dollars for the PBA to come to their center. They pretty much shut down their open play for the weekend. I use to bowl regionals and was thankful centers paid for us to come their and bowl a regional. Bowling is still bowling, you still have to make shots and I think it levels the playing field a little bit more because a lot of the high Rev players are not getting the hardcore hits like they would. Be supportive of the pba and also the people who fork put money to have these events
@zedsodead24 күн бұрын
I bowled certified string pins and recorded it at Foxview in Waukesha last month. When I left, I felt like it was real bowling and was cool with it. When I watched it later, I realized how dead the pins looked as they mostly just flopped over. No messengers, no pins left spinning on the deck. I just don't see this adding any excitement to the fans that this sport desperately needs. Plus side, the racks were fast and flawless and ready well before my ball returned. I don't think the pros should use them as eventually the strings do knock pins over, which is just plain bull.
@DeRang3rMan23 күн бұрын
All the old heads should absolutely love strong pins then. They're always getting upset about trip 4's or messenger 10's or late lucky breaks. This would be a win in their books. I don't hate string pins and if it keeps alleys open I'm all for it. Too many have closed in recent years due to inflating costs.
@zedsodead23 күн бұрын
@DeRang3rMan yeah, I will bowl them but I've no interest in watching it on tv. It's just dulled down pin action. Someday a major will be decided by a pin that was knocked over by a string and the legitimacy of the sport will be dead forever. The Olympic committee already has no respect for It's legitimacy. This from an entity that has synchronized swimming and baton twirling.
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
@@zedsodead Why do people care about the Olympics? They only happen once every 4 years.
@cautiousoptimist192623 күн бұрын
@@DeRang3rManMy scratch league is in a house that was equipped with string pins this summer. One month in, the guys who flush the pocket shot after shot are scoring great. The area bowlers aren't getting their slop.
@CherylWippich21 күн бұрын
@@DeRang3rMano
@maax46823 күн бұрын
10:50 is just too crazy. Pins falling without being touched cause of strings.
@atbsigma23 күн бұрын
I loved $2 Phil being back on the mic! I know people love to hate on string pins but the fact that touring pros were in the stepladder in this event shows that the best bowlers in the world still wind up bowling for the cheese regardless of what type of pins are up there.
@BornIn150023 күн бұрын
10:50 turning bowling into a joke by using these strings. What a disaster for the sport.
@billyeaston613423 күн бұрын
At the professional tournament level, bowling should be 100% left to free fall. Otherwise it will never be natural and every result would be called into question.
@binaryanticommunist188223 күн бұрын
100%. Bowlers should just go with their gut and patronize centers and tournaments accordingly. Only the most degenerate gamblers would risk their stakes on this game.
@bfrytech23 күн бұрын
I won't be watching any more "string" stuff. And I'm giving this a thumbs down.
@Jason_P23 күн бұрын
3rd frame and we already have some bullshit. The 10-pin did not hit the 6-pin. The strings made that spare. Even Kyle looked disgusted. It's a disgrace that the PBA is allowing this.
@RobBanks-v3t22 күн бұрын
Reading the comments and I am truly amazed at how far people will go to defend this "String Pin" technology. I could see someone using this for a home application or for practice purposes but not for competition. The difference is so obvious.
@adcatchem270715 күн бұрын
Pin action and carry was great you guys should definitely keep doing this. (IM JOKING THIS IS HORRIFYING)
@smith210919 күн бұрын
Two great bowlers!!
@northwind862623 күн бұрын
Had a local bowling center go to string setters. Tried it once, only families w small children play there now, not for serious bowlers.
@Teardropical24 күн бұрын
not stringpins...
@jaymiester139324 күн бұрын
They clearly have stringpins....
@jaymiester139324 күн бұрын
They clearly have strings...
@zedsodead23 күн бұрын
10:50 string topples 4 pin.14:06 string knocks 5 pin over. 41:05 strings trip Northouse😂. After this match, the string pins embezzle funds from the alley and run off with the proprieters' wife.They're just no good.
@JCGoKingsGo23 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
Go watch a free fall tournament and record every time something odd happens. At the Howtobowl Championship in Utah yesterday,, they had multiple deadwoods they had to stop play for just in one game. That could never happen with strings!
@ahampel2223 күн бұрын
yep - exactly where I saw the problem
@zedsodead23 күн бұрын
@ripvanrevs Deadwoods don't directly change the score. Odd things that happen with free fall alleys are usually a delight. When equipment knocks down pins, it just ain't cool. That's why if the rack hits a pin, it doesn't count. Respect your opinion even though I think your wrong on this one my friend. 😊
@J.D.lastname-t8l23 күн бұрын
@@ripvanrevs stings can break, you can get deadwood, but pins don't fall in freefall unless they are actually hit by the ball or pin. big difference
@zedsodead23 күн бұрын
If you get bad service or bad food at a restaurant the worst thing you can do is leave and never go back without ever telling them why. These comments are actually read and are the only way fans can state their honest opinions where they will be heard. Strings are not a done deal, yet. I encourage all to speak up in support or not in support of them. Be honest. If the popularity dwindles they can't claim they don't know why. Tom Clark has dedicated himself to more exciting bowling with all the special tourneys he creates. I have faith he will listen.
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
As a 59 year old who quit bowling for 20 years because the industry didn't treat itself enough as a sport, I don't see anything wrong with strings. I rarely get messengers, but I have no problem with those who can create the ball speed and revs to get them. Same with bowling with your thumb or without. Whichever way you can score higher is what you should do. I've been back a couple years now and love to bowl against the young kids.
@JCGoKingsGo23 күн бұрын
10:53 and these things are "certified" 🙄 That string assist for Troup ended costing Chandler the win in that game. Also saw one a while back where a string abruptly stopped a messenger from taking out a 10 pin costing Ryan Shafer a title against WRW. They may save centers a ton of $$$ but these things are a joke for certified competition.
@michaelmarsico974013 күн бұрын
Technically.. missing the single pin cost him.. but I’m not defending strings 😂
@sammiedunlap965623 күн бұрын
i am a big Troup fan but i also like EJ. He is a class act.
@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle23 күн бұрын
The minute he mentioned “string assisted pinfall” Troup picks up the washout that would have been a 3 count or 4 on the fill but nothing touched the 6 pin for the spare 😂
@mks305723 күн бұрын
These pins play like they're dead. Troup's washout looked bad and I watched the match on my phone. I know people who bowl in a league with string, happens all the time. Absolutely pathetic!!
@GMilstead10223 күн бұрын
That 4 pin in game one he left would’ve never happened on normal setters.
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
Might be a good idea to hit the headpin and then you wouldn't have to worry about a washout!!
@mks305723 күн бұрын
Replying to myself for clarification. The spare Troup picked up on his wash out was bad. Ghost tripped 6. The entire game the pins looked lifeless and boring. Not a professional look
@JoshSmithers23 күн бұрын
String billiard's next.
@samrivera3434423 күн бұрын
string pin is gonna kill the game of bowling
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
TROUP! There it is!!
@joelmesa778518 күн бұрын
I played strings, and yeah, it's definitely tougher, but it does make your game play sharper.
@cautiousoptimist192623 күн бұрын
I'm old enough to have started with a rubber ball on wood lanes. I've had to adapt to alot over the decades. String pins are just the latest wrinkle. Currently averaging 220 on string pins. You'll adapt. Easy scoring conditions and juiced up balls have made bowlers lazy and entitled.
@techsmc22 күн бұрын
So bring in pins that are on string and havivg the string knock down pins makes you feel good why not walk down the lane and just kick all the pins down and average 300
@notonyourlife793915 күн бұрын
So your solution to lazy and entitled bowlers is handing them free pins via converted splits and washouts that only fell because a friggin cable clotheslined them? Yeah, that'll fix the game...
@sawluke23 күн бұрын
Watch 10:55 mark to see why I will never agree with string pins. That's not a spare without those strings.
@cplsaft22 күн бұрын
no to string pins
@bowlnow82423 күн бұрын
Bowling is still bowling. People always going to have something bad to say instead of trying to put in the work to compete. People complain about no money in bowling. Well bad talking bowling is not helping
@notonyourlife793915 күн бұрын
Nobody's "bad talking" bowling. They're badmouthing (which is the term, btw) this pathetic bastardization of bowling.
@jonhorne681423 күн бұрын
Announcer : It’s going to take 240 to win this one. Me : ROFL 🤣
@audioexperience22 күн бұрын
i will never go to a string pin bowling alley if i can avoid it good grief this is bad
@dmo892123 күн бұрын
I can spot string pins right away. It’s like instant potatoes vs real potatoes, not even close to the same thing
@agallo12120 күн бұрын
This is very hard to watch... strings are terrible and i know everyone could see the misdirections... i can't watch this
@notonyourlife793915 күн бұрын
When strings are the only option I have left, I'll be playing a lot more golf... and I won't feel bad, because this isn't bowling. It's a pathetic carnival game imitation of bowling.
@cousinjohncarstuff456823 күн бұрын
Only real pins in PBA! Pinfall you get is real with no help from strings. String pins? Sorry EJ, put in real pins and pinsetters, we will be happy to bowl at your center! Until then, sorry! No!
@nikitafilatov231916 күн бұрын
let's go, annoying squirrel with 3 beautiful splits at the end!!!
@christopherharmon227223 күн бұрын
Looks like these string pins are garbage
@BigSkyBowler23 күн бұрын
So... are we all just going to ignore lane 12's issues during warmup? Like seriously... I would be absolutely pissed if I was the player warming up on that pair. So many pin falls due to strings tugging the pins over... ridiculous.
@ijalronaldo297522 күн бұрын
Wow lucky win from game 1
@caimito6023 күн бұрын
That was a string assisted pinfall in frame 3.
@BigBlockRick-gy6ym23 күн бұрын
String pins?….Not watching
@robertcuratolo533924 күн бұрын
10:46 🤨Somebody give me a match 🔥🪡
@mham133023 күн бұрын
I missed the program. I don't remember it being on KZbin for us to view Live. I rather bowl without the strings.
@GreatestEver-r2b23 күн бұрын
Just started bowling about a year ago, but I highly dislike the look of string pins and would definitely stop going to my local bowlero if they ever change to string pins.
@lastans1821 күн бұрын
All of you complaining about the commentator selling string pins fail to understand the entire point of this tourrnament is to test and soft sell string pins to the public.
@cadirector18 күн бұрын
Hardly a "soft sell". I had to mute the volume because he was pushing it so hard I was betting he had stock in it.
@lastans1818 күн бұрын
@@cadirector 🤣🤣🤣 AMF/Quibeca literally sponsored the tournament. It's the same as having a progressive commercial at every TV break for football.
@ZF031723 күн бұрын
People saying no messengers and dead pins then also comment the strings are hitting pins over. Spinners and messengers are now replaced by string hits. That's why the scores between string and free fall are nearly the same.
@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle23 күн бұрын
Spinners and messengers have to actually hit a pin to knock it over…
@ZF031723 күн бұрын
@@StephensAmazingKZbinHandle agreed. I'm not for or against string pins. They are different in their carry but the math comes out roughly the same. Also depending on the setup, the string also needs to hit the pin it's knocking over, not just the string of the pin.
@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle23 күн бұрын
@@ZF0317 it shouldn’t be “depending on the setup” Kyle Troup got 14 more pins than he should have had by a ghost knocking over the 6 and the string pulling the 1 back into the 10
@ZF031723 күн бұрын
@@StephensAmazingKZbinHandle Kyle also had no messengers in 3 games of bowling. As I said, it's a different game, but the overall score comes out very similar.
@ThatDudeTonyB23 күн бұрын
One thing I’ve never understood about stepladders; why doesn’t the winner of the previous round also get practice shots? The next seed up is practicing, moving oil around - especially when throwing urethane. So both bowlers should get a few practice shots before each round.
@ThatDudeTonyB23 күн бұрын
The pin action doesn’t even look right. 1st game Troup left a 4-pin on a light pocket shot 😂😂😂
@clearadvantagecleaningsyst1524 күн бұрын
I’ve been bowling at least two leagues for three years, if they put in strings, I’m done. Cold turkey.
@pjmcmann366823 күн бұрын
Northouse thought he was Wii bowling in real life
@joelmesa778518 күн бұрын
I was just wondering, thu , if the lanes have been played a lot. Wouldn't you want to switch the pearl?
@Logan_Golf24 күн бұрын
Why stringpins
@keyser45623 күн бұрын
Cuz if it ain't broke, keep fixing it until it is.
@zedsodead23 күн бұрын
Cheaper maintenance. There is no need for a mechanic on site. No deadwood for attendant to clear. Should be used for birthday parties and Saturday night drunks only IMO.
@mavwag23 күн бұрын
man stringpins look awful
@fracturedraptor784623 күн бұрын
Strings shouldn't be adopted period. They cause too much nonsense and remove skill from the game, as Kyle picking up that five pin spare in the beginning shows. With no strings that wouldn't happen. So with enough time and practice you could reasonably predict how to abuse the strings to do things that're otherwise difficult. It should be difficult. If someone picks it up on skill and wins it's better than them winning because strings knocked things down.
@steve33423 күн бұрын
Good God, Almighty it is sacrilegious that the PBA allows string pins. I mean, how cheap are these bowling alleys going to be when it comes to shelling out money for decent equipment?? It’s a sign of the times in my opinion, everybody’s out to make a quick buck, they lower the quality and jack up the price…
@afronz16622 күн бұрын
Electrolytes, it’s what plants crave 🥴
@igoramaral9524 күн бұрын
Save for kyle's washout on the first game, saw nothing too weird with those pins. If every string pin setter is set up to be this way, I'm fine.
@ripvanrevs23 күн бұрын
And free fall pins bounce out of the back all the time. I watched a few hours of qualifying and saw little difference with the main difference being very few messengers.
@xiaolee97923 күн бұрын
Maybe pins knocked over by strings should count as 0 or be respotted if it's after the first ball. Same as if the sweep came down and knocked over a pin. If we look at those two occurrences the same way I think I'm good with it also.
@burgettboys12323 күн бұрын
String pins?!?!? WTF?
@NickStapenek23 күн бұрын
string pins = the worst
@ronaldreinfort913310 күн бұрын
Looks like going high brooklyn with a 12 lb straight ball rocket should average 240.
@greiglyas121 күн бұрын
If my centre ever goes to string pins that will be the end of the sport I have loved for 50 years. I'll retire content with what I have achieved.
@burgettboys12323 күн бұрын
I can’t watch this.
@tomk1tl3923 күн бұрын
DITTO . . . where has bowling finally gone . . . . . . down the toilet . . .
@jasonsmith353714 күн бұрын
So, seems like this part of the year they are trying out a lot of PBA events with strings? This is the 2nd one I have seen in a week. Is this where we start to see strings creep into the big leagues?
@jaymiester139324 күн бұрын
The 2,8 spare that kyle "attempted to spare" in the 10th frame of secone game was clearly a fill ball...
@reinnegroni846222 күн бұрын
Forget the string pins, not feeling it.
@Dr_Paul_Proteus23 күн бұрын
F string pins.
@boogeryjoe845821 күн бұрын
If we are going to do string pins, they should invalidate spares or strikes that are achieved from knocking other pins down with string. Treat it the same way as if a ball bounces out the gutter to hit a 7 or 10 pin. Otherwise, this is a joke.
@audiofamilyutah23 күн бұрын
Not a fan of string pin. Not saying I won't bowl on it.
@odellus24 күн бұрын
holy shit northouse that scared the SHIT out of me
@robertcuratolo533923 күн бұрын
Can't blame string pins on that.
@ZF031723 күн бұрын
I dont know why Troupe stayed with urethane so long. It never shaped well for him on these lanes.
@Steve.Orland18 күн бұрын
Average Tuesday night
@jsymiheacl22 күн бұрын
Soon it’ll be 40 foot lanes too
@SteveJones-ul9ex23 күн бұрын
String pins are awful.
@reneschellevis789723 күн бұрын
0:00 Synced spares and a synced walk back
@samueldesrochers537623 күн бұрын
String pins = 🤮🤮
@CaponeSlays23 күн бұрын
10:49 😂
@CherylWippich21 күн бұрын
This is why bowling is a dying sport. All these changes and regulations required to get on the tour and the conditions in which they have to bowl on with not having balls that are over 2 years old to a 25 second shot clock violation for each roll and now string pins. Disgusting 🤮
@bfrytech23 күн бұрын
Physics says "strings" influence the pins. Somebody smarter than me PLEASE show the calculations
@notonyourlife793915 күн бұрын
You don't need equations to prove that the strings knock pins over that would have otherwise remained standing... all you need are functioning eyeballs. Hell, one eye would be sufficient.
@Khaosclan22 күн бұрын
String pins take virtually all possible pin action out the equation....its 0 doubt it makes the sport less entertaining to watch
@GlennMoyers23 күн бұрын
Nope not for me. I’m sorry I can’t watch this.
@jacoblangston476523 күн бұрын
Don't hate em but don't love em. Finished well in sport shot handicap tournaments over the summer on em. Definitely see some difference with em. Alot more weird leaves quite a few pocket hits leaving 5-7 but at the same time some splits are easier to pick up because of the way they fall and move.
@andrewphillips217923 күн бұрын
PbaBowling, That was a fantastic upload of the Stepladder Finals of the Pba Family Ford of Bluffton/Yergy's BBQ/EZ Bowl Central Open. Also, both E.J. Tackett and Kyle Troup are 2 of the best Bowlers on the Pba Tour.
@jonhorne681423 күн бұрын
Bottom line… String pins = way less pin action. Less messengers. Lower scores.
@jakesnussbuster356523 күн бұрын
The scores are almost identical on legal string pins vs free fall. Cite some sources that say otherwise
@gccorbitt218 күн бұрын
@10:46 mentioning why the live feed for some oversight on the string pin debate, then nothing stated, mentioning 'Absolutely NO way that Super Washout covered without the stringpins assist' Cheapening the sport without a doubt! Shameful
@GardenKennedy21 күн бұрын
03920 Jimmie Point
@OrangeLight08Күн бұрын
looks like troup pulled off the win in the first match due to string carry ... what a frikkin travesty
@chrisphelan88753 күн бұрын
I will never buy the strings. A way to save money while it screws the game.
@VanRodders22 күн бұрын
this is absolute nonsense. why are they trying so hard to push string pins? joke
@tdawg486723 күн бұрын
Wow string pins suck stop trying to talk it up I will take louder over terrible pin falls.
@bowlnow82421 күн бұрын
Keep it up haters. Just giving another reason why bowling is going to fail because of negative comments. The tackett family forked out a lot of money and put more money into the prize fund. Wish i was still bowling competition I would br honored to bowl this event with string pins
@parthjha927623 күн бұрын
string pin suck
@brandoncreasman25339 күн бұрын
PBA sold out to Bowlero. String pins is a terrible idea.
@SunnyGamer123_123 күн бұрын
E
@MarkAtherton-bf4pq10 күн бұрын
I've bowled string pins. They are terrible.
@drklener23 күн бұрын
chokeJ presents
@patrickfortune168723 күн бұрын
Not good pins look dead
@rob-nb7oc14 күн бұрын
String pins...what a joke! I could tell in the first thirty seconds. I will not watch any match with string pins.
@TheBigsarge084 күн бұрын
String Pins are terrible, no pin action, no excitement, it just looks dead.
@Youroko1110 күн бұрын
too much intro blah blah blah. 5:47 wasted.
@rob-nb7oc16 күн бұрын
Sorry, but I refuse to watch string pin bowling. Who paid off the PBA?
@solonely571923 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but I’m not a fan of these pins. And I never comment on this channel