PBA Family Ford of Bluffton/Yergy's BBQ/EZ Bowl Central Open Stepladder Finals

[@keyser456]

wth? less than 5 minutes in, I'm already sold against it.

[@odellus]

go watch qualifying. this stuff happens less often than it does on freefall.

[@keyser456]

@@odellus lol, I don't know what kinds of alleys you've been bowling at, but that's a total non-starter for me, and should be for the PBA as well.

[@chaos0852]

I’m not a fan, bowled on string pins in the nineties whilst in Belgium. If it means that bowling alleys can survive, then I’m ok with it.

[@Krranski]

@@chaos0852 Strings will not make bowling cheaper, not in the US, at least. It will only be used as a means to maximize profits, add to that corporate consolidation (Bowlero). One thing and one thing only can save bowling and that is accessibility for the common person on a regular basis.

[@Zurround]

@@chaos0852 What the hell does "string" mean? I don't see any string? People keep saying "string" but I don't see string. is it code for something?

[@jefferydaniels6717]

Commentator, quit trying to sell the strings please.

[@remoevans7847]

It’s most likely going to happen whether armchair experts like it or not.

[@bowlnow824]

​@@remoevans7847 yes it will. Definitely going to happen.

[@shannondingus8430]

This is embarrassing.. just act like you don't see what's obvious

[@derekash6821]

String pins are trash

[@jefferydaniels6717]

@@remoevans7847 Sadly I agree. Houses being sold on being able to fire their mechanics and save money.

[@williamoleary1410]

A PBA tournament with string pins? Ridiculous

[@reggiefrederick1593]

Why?

[@Mememememememe123]

@@reggiefrederick1593did you not see some of the ridiculous spares being made because the string knocked it over? String pins should strictly be for average bowlers, not pba level bowlers…

[@bowlnow824]

Understand something. The center and sponsors forked out thousands of dollars for the PBA to come to their center. They pretty much shut down their open play for the weekend. I use to bowl regionals and was thankful centers paid for us to come their and bowl a regional. Bowling is still bowling, you still have to make shots and I think it levels the playing field a little bit more because a lot of the high Rev players are not getting the hardcore hits like they would. Be supportive of the pba and also the people who fork put money to have these events

[@zedsodead]

I bowled certified string pins and recorded it at Foxview in Waukesha last month. When I left, I felt like it was real bowling and was cool with it. When I watched it later, I realized how dead the pins looked as they mostly just flopped over. No messengers, no pins left spinning on the deck. I just don't see this adding any excitement to the fans that this sport desperately needs. Plus side, the racks were fast and flawless and ready well before my ball returned. I don't think the pros should use them as eventually the strings do knock pins over, which is just plain bull.

[@DeRang3rMan]

All the old heads should absolutely love strong pins then. They're always getting upset about trip 4's or messenger 10's or late lucky breaks. This would be a win in their books. I don't hate string pins and if it keeps alleys open I'm all for it. Too many have closed in recent years due to inflating costs.

[@zedsodead]

​@DeRang3rMan yeah, I will bowl them but I've no interest in watching it on tv. It's just dulled down pin action. Someday a major will be decided by a pin that was knocked over by a string and the legitimacy of the sport will be dead forever. The Olympic committee already has no respect for It's legitimacy. This from an entity that has synchronized swimming and baton twirling.

[@ripvanrevs]

@@zedsodead Why do people care about the Olympics? They only happen once every 4 years.

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

​@@DeRang3rManMy scratch league is in a house that was equipped with string pins this summer. One month in, the guys who flush the pocket shot after shot are scoring great. The area bowlers aren't getting their slop.

[@CherylWippich]

​@@DeRang3rMano

[@maax468]

10:50 is just too crazy. Pins falling without being touched cause of strings.

[@atbsigma]

I loved $2 Phil being back on the mic! I know people love to hate on string pins but the fact that touring pros were in the stepladder in this event shows that the best bowlers in the world still wind up bowling for the cheese regardless of what type of pins are up there.

[@BornIn1500]

10:50 turning bowling into a joke by using these strings. What a disaster for the sport.

[@billyeaston6134]

At the professional tournament level, bowling should be 100% left to free fall. Otherwise it will never be natural and every result would be called into question.

[@binaryanticommunist1882]

100%. Bowlers should just go with their gut and patronize centers and tournaments accordingly. Only the most degenerate gamblers would risk their stakes on this game.

[@bfrytech]

I won't be watching any more "string" stuff. And I'm giving this a thumbs down.

[@Jason_P]

3rd frame and we already have some bullshit. The 10-pin did not hit the 6-pin. The strings made that spare. Even Kyle looked disgusted. It's a disgrace that the PBA is allowing this.

[@RobBanks-v3t]

Reading the comments and I am truly amazed at how far people will go to defend this "String Pin" technology. I could see someone using this for a home application or for practice purposes but not for competition. The difference is so obvious.

[@adcatchem2707]

Pin action and carry was great you guys should definitely keep doing this. (IM JOKING THIS IS HORRIFYING)

[@smith2109]

Two great bowlers!!

[@northwind8626]

Had a local bowling center go to string setters. Tried it once, only families w small children play there now, not for serious bowlers.

[@Teardropical]

not stringpins...

[@jaymiester1393]

They clearly have stringpins....

[@jaymiester1393]

They clearly have strings...

[@zedsodead]

10:50 string topples 4 pin.14:06 string knocks 5 pin over. 41:05 strings trip Northouse😂. After this match, the string pins embezzle funds from the alley and run off with the proprieters' wife.They're just no good.

[@JCGoKingsGo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ripvanrevs]

Go watch a free fall tournament and record every time something odd happens. At the Howtobowl Championship in Utah yesterday,, they had multiple deadwoods they had to stop play for just in one game. That could never happen with strings!

[@ahampel22]

yep - exactly where I saw the problem

[@zedsodead]

​@ripvanrevs Deadwoods don't directly change the score. Odd things that happen with free fall alleys are usually a delight. When equipment knocks down pins, it just ain't cool. That's why if the rack hits a pin, it doesn't count. Respect your opinion even though I think your wrong on this one my friend. 😊

[@J.D.lastname-t8l]

@@ripvanrevs stings can break, you can get deadwood, but pins don't fall in freefall unless they are actually hit by the ball or pin. big difference

[@zedsodead]

If you get bad service or bad food at a restaurant the worst thing you can do is leave and never go back without ever telling them why. These comments are actually read and are the only way fans can state their honest opinions where they will be heard. Strings are not a done deal, yet. I encourage all to speak up in support or not in support of them. Be honest. If the popularity dwindles they can't claim they don't know why. Tom Clark has dedicated himself to more exciting bowling with all the special tourneys he creates. I have faith he will listen.

[@ripvanrevs]

As a 59 year old who quit bowling for 20 years because the industry didn't treat itself enough as a sport, I don't see anything wrong with strings. I rarely get messengers, but I have no problem with those who can create the ball speed and revs to get them. Same with bowling with your thumb or without. Whichever way you can score higher is what you should do. I've been back a couple years now and love to bowl against the young kids.

[@JCGoKingsGo]

10:53 and these things are "certified" 🙄 That string assist for Troup ended costing Chandler the win in that game. Also saw one a while back where a string abruptly stopped a messenger from taking out a 10 pin costing Ryan Shafer a title against WRW. They may save centers a ton of $$$ but these things are a joke for certified competition.

[@michaelmarsico9740]

Technically.. missing the single pin cost him.. but I’m not defending strings 😂

[@sammiedunlap9656]

i am a big Troup fan but i also like EJ. He is a class act.

[@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle]

The minute he mentioned “string assisted pinfall” Troup picks up the washout that would have been a 3 count or 4 on the fill but nothing touched the 6 pin for the spare 😂

[@mks3057]

These pins play like they're dead. Troup's washout looked bad and I watched the match on my phone. I know people who bowl in a league with string, happens all the time. Absolutely pathetic!!

[@GMilstead102]

That 4 pin in game one he left would’ve never happened on normal setters.

[@ripvanrevs]

Might be a good idea to hit the headpin and then you wouldn't have to worry about a washout!!

[@mks3057]

Replying to myself for clarification. The spare Troup picked up on his wash out was bad. Ghost tripped 6. The entire game the pins looked lifeless and boring. Not a professional look

[@JoshSmithers]

String billiard's next.

[@samrivera34344]

string pin is gonna kill the game of bowling

[@ripvanrevs]

TROUP! There it is!!

[@joelmesa7785]

I played strings, and yeah, it's definitely tougher, but it does make your game play sharper.

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

I'm old enough to have started with a rubber ball on wood lanes. I've had to adapt to alot over the decades. String pins are just the latest wrinkle. Currently averaging 220 on string pins. You'll adapt. Easy scoring conditions and juiced up balls have made bowlers lazy and entitled.

[@techsmc]

So bring in pins that are on string and havivg the string knock down pins makes you feel good why not walk down the lane and just kick all the pins down and average 300

[@notonyourlife7939]

So your solution to lazy and entitled bowlers is handing them free pins via converted splits and washouts that only fell because a friggin cable clotheslined them? Yeah, that'll fix the game...

[@sawluke]

Watch 10:55 mark to see why I will never agree with string pins. That's not a spare without those strings.

[@cplsaft]

no to string pins

[@bowlnow824]

Bowling is still bowling. People always going to have something bad to say instead of trying to put in the work to compete. People complain about no money in bowling. Well bad talking bowling is not helping

[@notonyourlife7939]

Nobody's "bad talking" bowling. They're badmouthing (which is the term, btw) this pathetic bastardization of bowling.

[@jonhorne6814]

Announcer : It’s going to take 240 to win this one. Me : ROFL 🤣

[@audioexperience]

i will never go to a string pin bowling alley if i can avoid it good grief this is bad

[@dmo8921]

I can spot string pins right away. It’s like instant potatoes vs real potatoes, not even close to the same thing

[@agallo121]

This is very hard to watch... strings are terrible and i know everyone could see the misdirections... i can't watch this

[@notonyourlife7939]

When strings are the only option I have left, I'll be playing a lot more golf... and I won't feel bad, because this isn't bowling. It's a pathetic carnival game imitation of bowling.

[@cousinjohncarstuff4568]

Only real pins in PBA! Pinfall you get is real with no help from strings. String pins? Sorry EJ, put in real pins and pinsetters, we will be happy to bowl at your center! Until then, sorry! No!

[@nikitafilatov2319]

let's go, annoying squirrel with 3 beautiful splits at the end!!!

[@christopherharmon2272]

Looks like these string pins are garbage

[@BigSkyBowler]

So... are we all just going to ignore lane 12's issues during warmup? Like seriously... I would be absolutely pissed if I was the player warming up on that pair. So many pin falls due to strings tugging the pins over... ridiculous.

[@ijalronaldo2975]

Wow lucky win from game 1

[@caimito60]

That was a string assisted pinfall in frame 3.

[@BigBlockRick-gy6ym]

String pins?….Not watching

[@robertcuratolo5339]

10:46 🤨Somebody give me a match 🔥🪡

[@mham1330]

I missed the program. I don't remember it being on KZbin for us to view Live. I rather bowl without the strings.

[@GreatestEver-r2b]

Just started bowling about a year ago, but I highly dislike the look of string pins and would definitely stop going to my local bowlero if they ever change to string pins.

[@lastans18]

All of you complaining about the commentator selling string pins fail to understand the entire point of this tourrnament is to test and soft sell string pins to the public.

[@cadirector]

Hardly a "soft sell". I had to mute the volume because he was pushing it so hard I was betting he had stock in it.

[@lastans18]

@@cadirector 🤣🤣🤣 AMF/Quibeca literally sponsored the tournament. It's the same as having a progressive commercial at every TV break for football.

[@ZF0317]

People saying no messengers and dead pins then also comment the strings are hitting pins over. Spinners and messengers are now replaced by string hits. That's why the scores between string and free fall are nearly the same.

[@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle]

Spinners and messengers have to actually hit a pin to knock it over…

[@ZF0317]

@@StephensAmazingKZbinHandle agreed. I'm not for or against string pins. They are different in their carry but the math comes out roughly the same. Also depending on the setup, the string also needs to hit the pin it's knocking over, not just the string of the pin.

[@StephensAmazingYoutubeHandle]

@@ZF0317 it shouldn’t be “depending on the setup” Kyle Troup got 14 more pins than he should have had by a ghost knocking over the 6 and the string pulling the 1 back into the 10

[@ZF0317]

@@StephensAmazingKZbinHandle Kyle also had no messengers in 3 games of bowling. As I said, it's a different game, but the overall score comes out very similar.

[@ThatDudeTonyB]

One thing I’ve never understood about stepladders; why doesn’t the winner of the previous round also get practice shots? The next seed up is practicing, moving oil around - especially when throwing urethane. So both bowlers should get a few practice shots before each round.

[@ThatDudeTonyB]

The pin action doesn’t even look right. 1st game Troup left a 4-pin on a light pocket shot 😂😂😂

[@clearadvantagecleaningsyst152]

I’ve been bowling at least two leagues for three years, if they put in strings, I’m done. Cold turkey.

[@pjmcmann3668]

Northouse thought he was Wii bowling in real life

[@joelmesa7785]

I was just wondering, thu , if the lanes have been played a lot. Wouldn't you want to switch the pearl?

[@Logan_Golf]

Why stringpins

[@keyser456]

Cuz if it ain't broke, keep fixing it until it is.

[@zedsodead]

Cheaper maintenance. There is no need for a mechanic on site. No deadwood for attendant to clear. Should be used for birthday parties and Saturday night drunks only IMO.

[@mavwag]

man stringpins look awful

[@fracturedraptor7846]

Strings shouldn't be adopted period. They cause too much nonsense and remove skill from the game, as Kyle picking up that five pin spare in the beginning shows. With no strings that wouldn't happen. So with enough time and practice you could reasonably predict how to abuse the strings to do things that're otherwise difficult. It should be difficult. If someone picks it up on skill and wins it's better than them winning because strings knocked things down.

[@steve334]

Good God, Almighty it is sacrilegious that the PBA allows string pins. I mean, how cheap are these bowling alleys going to be when it comes to shelling out money for decent equipment?? It’s a sign of the times in my opinion, everybody’s out to make a quick buck, they lower the quality and jack up the price…

[@afronz166]

Electrolytes, it’s what plants crave 🥴

[@igoramaral95]

Save for kyle's washout on the first game, saw nothing too weird with those pins. If every string pin setter is set up to be this way, I'm fine.

[@ripvanrevs]

And free fall pins bounce out of the back all the time. I watched a few hours of qualifying and saw little difference with the main difference being very few messengers.

[@xiaolee979]

Maybe pins knocked over by strings should count as 0 or be respotted if it's after the first ball. Same as if the sweep came down and knocked over a pin. If we look at those two occurrences the same way I think I'm good with it also.

[@burgettboys123]

String pins?!?!? WTF?

[@NickStapenek]

string pins = the worst

[@ronaldreinfort9133]

Looks like going high brooklyn with a 12 lb straight ball rocket should average 240.

[@greiglyas1]

If my centre ever goes to string pins that will be the end of the sport I have loved for 50 years. I'll retire content with what I have achieved.

[@burgettboys123]

I can’t watch this.

[@tomk1tl39]

DITTO . . . where has bowling finally gone . . . . . . down the toilet . . .

[@jasonsmith3537]

So, seems like this part of the year they are trying out a lot of PBA events with strings? This is the 2nd one I have seen in a week. Is this where we start to see strings creep into the big leagues?

[@jaymiester1393]

The 2,8 spare that kyle "attempted to spare" in the 10th frame of secone game was clearly a fill ball...

[@reinnegroni8462]

Forget the string pins, not feeling it.

[@Dr_Paul_Proteus]

F string pins.

[@boogeryjoe8458]

If we are going to do string pins, they should invalidate spares or strikes that are achieved from knocking other pins down with string. Treat it the same way as if a ball bounces out the gutter to hit a 7 or 10 pin. Otherwise, this is a joke.

[@audiofamilyutah]

Not a fan of string pin. Not saying I won't bowl on it.

[@odellus]

holy shit northouse that scared the SHIT out of me

[@robertcuratolo5339]

Can't blame string pins on that.

[@ZF0317]

I dont know why Troupe stayed with urethane so long. It never shaped well for him on these lanes.

[@Steve.Orland]

Average Tuesday night

[@jsymiheacl]

Soon it’ll be 40 foot lanes too

[@SteveJones-ul9ex]

String pins are awful.

[@reneschellevis7897]

0:00 Synced spares and a synced walk back

[@samueldesrochers5376]

String pins = 🤮🤮

[@CaponeSlays]

10:49 😂

[@CherylWippich]

This is why bowling is a dying sport. All these changes and regulations required to get on the tour and the conditions in which they have to bowl on with not having balls that are over 2 years old to a 25 second shot clock violation for each roll and now string pins. Disgusting 🤮

[@bfrytech]

Physics says "strings" influence the pins. Somebody smarter than me PLEASE show the calculations

[@notonyourlife7939]

You don't need equations to prove that the strings knock pins over that would have otherwise remained standing... all you need are functioning eyeballs. Hell, one eye would be sufficient.

[@Khaosclan]

String pins take virtually all possible pin action out the equation....its 0 doubt it makes the sport less entertaining to watch

[@GlennMoyers]

Nope not for me. I’m sorry I can’t watch this.

[@jacoblangston4765]

Don't hate em but don't love em. Finished well in sport shot handicap tournaments over the summer on em. Definitely see some difference with em. Alot more weird leaves quite a few pocket hits leaving 5-7 but at the same time some splits are easier to pick up because of the way they fall and move.

[@andrewphillips2179]

PbaBowling, That was a fantastic upload of the Stepladder Finals of the Pba Family Ford of Bluffton/Yergy's BBQ/EZ Bowl Central Open. Also, both E.J. Tackett and Kyle Troup are 2 of the best Bowlers on the Pba Tour.

[@jonhorne6814]

Bottom line… String pins = way less pin action. Less messengers. Lower scores.

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

The scores are almost identical on legal string pins vs free fall. Cite some sources that say otherwise

[@gccorbitt2]

@10:46 mentioning why the live feed for some oversight on the string pin debate, then nothing stated, mentioning 'Absolutely NO way that Super Washout covered without the stringpins assist' Cheapening the sport without a doubt! Shameful

[@GardenKennedy]

03920 Jimmie Point

[@OrangeLight08]

looks like troup pulled off the win in the first match due to string carry ... what a frikkin travesty

[@chrisphelan8875]

I will never buy the strings. A way to save money while it screws the game.

[@VanRodders]

this is absolute nonsense. why are they trying so hard to push string pins? joke

[@tdawg4867]

Wow string pins suck stop trying to talk it up I will take louder over terrible pin falls.

[@bowlnow824]

Keep it up haters. Just giving another reason why bowling is going to fail because of negative comments. The tackett family forked out a lot of money and put more money into the prize fund. Wish i was still bowling competition I would br honored to bowl this event with string pins

[@parthjha9276]

string pin suck

[@brandoncreasman2533]

PBA sold out to Bowlero. String pins is a terrible idea.

[@SunnyGamer123_1]

E

[@MarkAtherton-bf4pq]

I've bowled string pins. They are terrible.

[@drklener]

chokeJ presents

[@patrickfortune1687]

Not good pins look dead

[@rob-nb7oc]

String pins...what a joke! I could tell in the first thirty seconds. I will not watch any match with string pins.

[@TheBigsarge08]

String Pins are terrible, no pin action, no excitement, it just looks dead.

[@Youroko11]

too much intro blah blah blah. 5:47 wasted.

[@rob-nb7oc]

Sorry, but I refuse to watch string pin bowling. Who paid off the PBA?

[@solonely5719]

I’m sorry but I’m not a fan of these pins. And I never comment on this channel