PBD E85 Tune 18 F150 5.0L Makes Power then Races Ecoboost F150

[@drunkinmaster1]

That coyote 5.0 sounds so beautiful and revs to the heavens. But once i test drove the 3.5 ecoboost i was sold on that low end torque

[@JohnDiMartino]

Same here! I’m on my 2nd 3.5 ecoboost,after going to buy the 5.0 lol....I’m a sucker for torque, was not expecting the ecoboost to pull like a big block.

[@townhall05446]

I like the look of failed hopes on the 5.0 owner's face when he not only gets beat but beat bad by the 3.5 Eco. I can almost see him thinking 'What is it going to cost me to make my truck that quick?' The 3.5 is a beast. It may sound like the world's fastest washing machine but it makes a lot of power.

[@moises556.]

A max power 3.5 wont ever beat a max power 5.0

[@gradoisx2348]

It will cost about 6-7 thousand and it will put bus lengths on a tuned 3.5, its called a wipple supercharger. Or a turbo kit will probably be a fair bit cheaper, but i dont see an ecoboost with big turbos surviving 800-900 rear wheel hp on a stock engine like a coyote will.

[@chuck4abuck1]

I have them both if your childish enough to race . The boost might beat it this year. But towing and longevity NO DOUBT 5.0

[@mattstone4169]

Old ecoboost owner I love the looks on the 3.5 owners face when they wake up to a camphaser clacking at 80k miles

[@sfcjerryharris1]

Put on a VMP Odin Supercharger on the 5.0

[@Hayabusagsxr1300]

That’s how I feel. Unless you boost the 5.0 truck, the ecoboost will gap it mod for mod. Too bad the ecoboost sounds like poo

[@Pilot545]

Hayabusagsxr1300 Haha. Agreed! I have an E50 tuned 3.5L and I LOVE the power. But I will never sound as sweet as a V8. I gave up looking for an aftermarket solution. Just gonna keep it stock and accept it. But OH THAT POWER! 😜

[@leviathan5.081]

Actually as soon as you change the truck manifold out on the 5.0 it will eat the eco Entire power band changes

[@SirtubalotTX]

There's more to be had out of the 5.0 n/a, but yea.. boost is always an advantage when run against an n/a motor. Rear gear has much to do with this as well.. not sure what it is on these trucks. (Would have liked to see a roll race) Also, Circle D makes a stall for the 10R80 and would definitely level the playing field. Boosted Coyotes however usually end the argument pretty quickly. lol.

[@eddiegreen4281]

@@leviathan5.081 hahahahaaha

[@townhall05446]

My 3.5 goes great but it sounds like a high performance washing machine.

[@keithfreeman4015]

Have a 97 Cobra with 4.10 gears making 355hp and 326trq to the wheels. My 21 F150 tremor stock blows the boors off of it.

[@FamilyCTSV]

Performance wise, unless you turbo or supercharge the 5.0, it’s no competition for the 3.5

[@hellraiserx9490]

Alexgotnicebody The 3.5 L V6 in the raptor is 450 hp from the factory but I imagine that’s at the fly wheel not at the wheels.

[@FamilyCTSV]

White Knight it’s the same engine. Ford just calls it “high output” 3.5. There’s a F-150 that comes with it too.

[@wiawii]

In the end the 3.5 L TT will be better for circuit application because of weight.

[@yzf400rider]

@@FamilyCTSVyes you can get the 3.5 ho in the limited f-150 witch is probably more expensive then the raptor.

[@FamilyCTSV]

alexandre gelinas I work for ford.. raptor here in Cali starts at around $67k plus $20k mark up from the dealer. The HO F-150 is around $55k

[@gregharper7316]

The blacked out grille and emblem looks sick on his F-150

[@brysonrodden5112]

I love the 5.0 and all but I would take the 3.5 over the 5.0 any day. This would only be if the trucks had basic mods like exhaust intake and tune. But if a supercharger is in the budget 5.0 all the way. I like the Ecoboost exhaust when you get catless downpipes, spd turbo adapters, cold air intake, and mbrp exhaust. You get a lot of turbo whistle and less of the v6 rasp.

[@nateyoung6331]

Have you priced out that setup? Are there any videos with this setup?

[@supra8065]

This man tuned your truck then gapped you in a ecoboost and told it was the answers lmao wut 😂

[@Matt-tc1ml]

You’ve never driven an echo boost... mine is fast

[@townhall05446]

@@Matt-tc1ml For years I wanted a new truck. Used to want a RAM for the Hemi but when I was finally able to seriously look at trucks my old Dakota had started rusting and I hated that. So I took a closer look at the F150 for its aluminum body. Then I had to decide between the 5.0 and the other engines. I was leaning towards the 5.0 but when I saw some of these videos and others showing the 3.5 lasting a good long time, I went with that motor. 18mpg city and 24.6 highway (70 mph) with the A/C on, and all that power, I love this truck and its 3.5 Eco motor. And now I see that apparently the Hemi motor has some design issues related to valvetrain oiling that can trash the engine if it is driven too much at low speeds or idled much, plus the Eco is faster and better mpg. A win win win for me.

[@NYCnMiami]

@@Matt-tc1ml There are no fast Ecoboost trucks.

[@GyroPyro121212]

@@NYCnMiami There are Ecoboost trucks running 11.2 in the 1/4. That’s as fast as a Hellcat. If that’s not fast, then nothing is.

[@jamesostling1809]

You’ve been killing it with content, keep it coming. I’m about 5 episodes behind, I can’t keep up lol

[@gradoisx2348]

I think that dyno is......very very generous.

[@smiller3110]

That dyno seems a bit generous...

[@Scottstunts]

S Miller a lot

[@cfltitan]

Yeah that's WAY high for stock.

[@gregorydavis4466]

Way generous! That 5.$low got gapped! Means that ecobeast is putting down way over 500whp if that was legit.

[@huntermckinley593]

@@gregorydavis4466 that isn't out of the question. Gen2 3.5's make 500+whp on ethanol

[@robertovaldez9001]

Yes sir the 3.5 Ecoboost is a beast it’s way faster than death 6.2 Chevy and 5.0 Ford i’m telling you because I have all three engines and I can tell the 3.5 eco-boost is more quick no matter what you add to that v8

[@alectrevelyan9361]

I’ll keep my 5.0, 20 years from now my truck will still be running the eco boost will be in the shop having major rebuilds

[@chaleowin7732]

The Ecoboost is awesome, too bad it sounds like an angry blender. I had one in my 2011 F150.

[@MrTigger28281]

Even the 2.7 is pretty quick

[@Matt-tc1ml]

2.7 is very quick

[@dangleesak1026]

Until you punch it from 45 or 50

[@a.wheeler7731]

If the 5.0 was steel body and really did weigh 2000 lbs more , that is the main reason for this result

[@VortexVibe634]

A. Wheeler they are both aluminum and the 3.5 is a supercrew while the 5.0 is crew cab, so the 5.0 is actually lighter

[@Shelbyj13]

Even if it was steel, there isn't a 2k weight difference.

[@yzf400rider]

@@Shelbyj13 I know 3.5 is smaller but when adding 2 turbos some piping inter cooler. I am pretty sure the weight comes back to the same vs 5.0

[@Shelbyj13]

@@yzf400rider I wasn't saying the 3.5 weighed the same. I was saying that the steel body F150 doesn't weight 2k more than an aluminum body. It's only like 500-700 depending on body style.

[@sfcjerryharris1]

I need to get my truck over there. Do I need to make a appointment

[@jacksonwalton7404]

Good lord that Dyno is about 50 Hp over on stock runs.

[@joejenness614]

Representing Rhode Island in that old ragtop fox 🤘🤙👍

[@EcoBoost27]

I need custom tunes for a 2.7L

[@JKZ103]

FYI a dyno operator can manipulate numbers with the SAE smoothing function in software. I noticed it at 5... also dynojets read notoriously high compared to others. Kinda hard to believe that as actual real data as that motor is rated at 400/400 at the crank. Not hating but having seen many 5.0 and exoboosts on the dyno this is unusual. Nice truck bro

[@9663mu]

Unless the 5.0 has 3:73 it stands no chance against an ECO. 3:31 in 5.0 seems lethargic revving. Good video thanks

[@JohnDiMartino]

9663mu it stands no chance no matter what gears it has! There’s a huge torque difference! The 5.0 is awesome but can’t match the ecoboost in a truck.

[@SirtubalotTX]

@@JohnDiMartino kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvRi5emZbejfNk Not really, granted.. that was stock for stock. Gearing does make a huge difference for the 5.0. Also, this 5 liter is not making all the n/a power it can. Headers, manifold swap..etc etc and I think things would have been much different. A 10R80 5.0 F150 3.73 would give even a modded Eco hell with fbo. Not to mention, Circle D now makes a stall for the 10R80 and there are 4.10 and even a 4.56 gear for the F150: that would pretty much erase any torque advantage the Eco might have.

[@eddiegreen4281]

You can put just a tune on a ecoboost and make 500 foot pounds to the tire's. You can do just about anything short of a power adder or serious head work and you will never get that much power to the wheels out of a 5.0. And what does it matter at that point? You could spend thousands and thousands of dollars on any vehicle and make it as fast as a tuned ecoboost.... my tuner cost 600 dollars. 😀

[@SirtubalotTX]

@@eddiegreen4281 No one said you can't make any power out of the 3.5tt...but it won't touch a 5.0 balls to the wall...and that was my point. Of course an Eco will do good with just a tune. It's already boosted. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZzRh6KsbMmpq8k Try that with any Ecoboost... .good luck.

[@9663mu]

eddie green my comment was stock vs stock. A 5.0 with 3:73 is neck and neck with a stock 3.5 Eco

[@ProPBkids]

I know this would take forever, but I think it’s cool... Y’all should update the “Our rides” section of the channel to include past Mustangs too. I really like hearing the stories in detail about the 16+ or so Stangs Andrew has owned over the years.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Not a bad idea. I can't remember how many I have owned at this point lol. There is a black 2000 Mustang GT I never managed to make a video on before I sold it

[@jdtv...9134]

What's the point it's not even a fair race without anything done to it the EcoBoost is over 500 foot pounds of torque

[@yzf400rider]

ya with just a tune lol. im glad I bought a 3.5. gonna break some 5.0 hearts at the track this summer

[@mesanders1113]

You can make up for lower torque numbers with gearing you can't make up for lack of horsepower. Torque is important but not the end all or all those newer diesel trucks like F250S with over 900ftlbs would be killing the EcoBoost motors.

[@lolz616]

ecoboost torque/boost down low RPMS is to strong for a naturally aspired motor this is why the ecoboost is funner to daily drive.. an ecoboost at normal acceleration rpms feels like the power of the 5.0 on full throttle

[@elguero7185]

It's a lot of fun to drive so much faster than my 2010 f150 5.4

[@thomasabney4898]

Is the ethanol sensor factory on the 5.0 FF? I'm running E50 in my raptor with a MPT nGauge and would LOVE to have that as one of the 6 gauges.

[@JoseDiaz-un9pj]

As an auto tech i have a love, hate relationship with seeing a dyno tune take place

[@LivinWith3M]

Lovin it man!

[@jasonwalden5001]

Damn. Same guys that tuned my 16 f150 with 2.9 whipple. They had it so fucked up I had to take it off. Worst fuel mileage. Kept throwing rich codes at idle. 6 months tuning. Just stopped asking and want my money back. Never heard back. Would never recommend to anyone with SC f150.

[@martinmelendez5450]

That 5.0 needs a muffler for back pressure that's why it takes off a bit soft on digs

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Wrong. Cats provide more than enough back pressure. Most modern engines don’t follow that rule anyways. More flow the better. But the muffler delete and resonator delete provides zero performance advantage or disadvantage

[@stew-03]

5.0 doesnt need “backpressure”

[@johnhoward6551]

I also have a 2018 3.5 full crew cab 4 by 4 At the moment I'm running performance plugs summit racing cold air intake, borla catback exaust extreme,more power tuning 93ĺ plus tune.they took some torque from 1st and put it on top. Still beaks loose sometimes hard to hold on to in 3r however still pullin as hard at 120 as it does at 80.pretty wicked ..i want 700 or better at the rear.lookin at intercooler s,injector to run e 85 all the time.gonna go ahead and beef up the internals and considerably larger turbos.tract ion bars,drop it some,much more meat on the ground.im just not sure which way to go with the internals.o this is my daily kicked everthings but that has tried me so far.suggesstions please.leave off the shrink,ive already been told.thanks yall

[@Tyebrew_yt]

Isn’t the 3.5 flex fuel so u should be already able to run e85 but even better with a tune

[@maryheather8540]

Really good content recently 🙂🌹

[@dominickirkwood]

I love it my bro Andrew and keep up the work and love video 💯💯💯

[@truckguyjoe]

Dominic I see your comments all over KZbin! You're always positive and upbeat. The world needs more people like you sir!!

[@480458]

What all was done to the ecoboost?

[@marcobala9284]

I don't understand why the magma red f150 made more power with just a tune than your 2018 f150 with mods?

[@welderteach]

What gear is the truck in for the dyno pulls?

[@Creedmoor4286]

What about SAE smoothing instead of STD smoothing.

[@BC08]

Would have started out in the 360s instead of the 370s.

[@nicog4008]

I don't care how my 3.5 sounds like, I'm still gaping most of the v8 trucks out there! 😎

[@ES-fr3yz]

It's a pickup truck not a race car. I'll take the V8 anytime.

[@Hitman-zi1fv]

What was with all the black ice air freshener trees? Someone has a gas issue or what? 💨😷

[@GodRam1988]

Ok take a 5.0 any day of the year! Eco boosts are shot engines imo plagued with problems. 5.0 is solid. Supercharged a eco boost will never touch it

[@ac0gnit073]

If you wanna make the most power the coyote is the platform you wanna go with. Period. The eco boost will never hold the power. Stock sure the eco is better but if your focused on building the fastest f150 out there then the coyote is the way!!

[@rileycates5049]

Im deciding on a tuner for my 10 gt500. Im stuck between Lund, Vmp, and Palm beach dyno. Anyone have input?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Honestly you can’t go wrong between the three of them. I have personally worked with VMP and Palm Beach dyno and they are great. Send me a text and I can get your squared away 407-680-3494

[@robbrossman5256]

Lund

[@BeardsandCars]

Lund FTW

[@chrisj5.0]

Late answer but Lund is killing it in the ford scene! 💪🏼

[@lynndornan9766]

Anymore video on the 5.8 engine rebuild.

[@maxoviedo2934]

I have 2018 f150 5.0 how much for that same tune ?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Here is the link: www.pbdyno.com/nGauge-with-Naturally-Aspirated-PBD-Custom-Tuning-for-2018-Ford-F150-V8_p_355.html

[@haddonsmith345]

Mustang Lifestyle How’s the 5.0 still holding up for you guys?

[@DJCuhhhstin956]

3.5's may be fast and quick, but they also fuck up faster and quicker

[@edgarr6411]

What did they do to that 3.5

[@townhall05446]

Probably nothing. The Eco 3.5 is a beast.

[@cesarestrada5020]

Gt350 manifold is the wAy

[@msalazar89]

Does the eco boost guy have a channel?

[@motomax13]

dude im ngl my 5.0 has beat 3.5's and all i have is exhaust?

[@5ohhlobo]

But we know you're lying.

[@Ankrstar]

Hahahaha

[@ooozooo7333]

You are lying through your teeth.

[@motomax13]

oO OzO Oo it was previous generations but it has been done. from everything I’ve seen they are supposed to be faster

[@ooozooo7333]

@@motomax13 The older gens are steel bodies and have the 6 speed i believe. So its no surprise that you beat the older gens, the newer gens are very quick and are basically at the same level as the 5.0 performance wise.

[@Instrumentator23]

Phil be using rogaine

[@chaleowin7732]

Only 40%? Damn, must be winter blend. I was getting 83% in the Summer in MN.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Mixed with 93 that was left in the tank and only 5 gallons or so added

[@chaleowin7732]

@@MustangLifestyleTV I missed that, makes sense. Flex fuel for the win. I can't get enough of these videos in the winter since all my toys are stored.

[@2003cobramustang]

Great power for stock

[@jeremywrzesinski4910]

What all is done to the ecoboost truck? And is it a 2.7 or 3.5?

[@dangleesak1026]

Obviously it’s a 3.5 a 2.7 could never do that to a tuned coyote

[@ooozooo7333]

@@dangleesak1026 You'd be surprised.

[@Steven-mv9gc]

Like the 2018 5.0 f150 content, I can relate as I own one as well. I want a tune, but I also am wanting the catted SPD Y pipe (have a CAI and res delete now. If I get the tune first what if anything would PBD charge for a new tune after I get the Y pipe? Would it need a new tune? Do you have your own personal link to PBD so I can help support a brother?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

I don’t think the y pipe would need a tune update. I have a link in the description for ngauge and tune from palm beach

[@JoseGomez-ni1pz]

Whats the 5.0 shifting at

[@hugosf1507]

What kind of exhaust you got on the ecoboost?

[@2003cobramustang]

He should definitely swap the manifold!

[@townhall05446]

So he can lose the race by somewhat less?

[@Thatduramaxguy]

Anyone know what was done to the ecoboost

[@PoEncimaTV]

Haven't loose to a 5.0 (yet) haha nice vid!

[@thomasschoon8407]

'Lost' 👍🤔😉

[@christopherqualls4443]

Sorry to tell ya but, ken ozbourne is the man

[@jeremym.208]

Bus lengths, short bus but still a bus.

[@bobbeaman807]

Muffler and resonator delete adds no power? A very L O N G video.

[@MormonMustang_]

What did the truck run at the track?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

12.8 @ 108

[@MormonMustang_]

@@MustangLifestyleTV nice! With 3.31 gears? My PBD e85 tune is on the way. My 19'5.0 is 4wd and supercrew 3.31 also, so I doubt I'll hit 12s like you mainly due to weight . I'm thinking 13.0-13.2 .

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

MormonMustang 3.55 2WD

[@nathant2414]

Do headers on the truck

[@veteranveteran9915]

I'm pissed that my 2017 5.0 only made 355hp on a Dyno Jet at 5Star Tuning with a CAI, catted Y pipes and a Dyno tune in 93. Told I need headers, e85 and GT manifold to maybe see 400?!?!

[@artm5583]

Veteran Veteran at least your truck doesn’t sound like a 3.5 turd

[@jacobponce9900]

This dyno in the video is definitely cheating a little bit. It is saying that stock, the truck is almost making more power at the wheels than Ford claims at the crank. That's like a 15% difference. I'm sure someone like 5 star is as accurate as possible.

[@smiller3110]

This dyno is a joke dude. You put this truck on 5stars dyno it would be nowhere near what he got

[@marshalcouldron3549]

What exhaust is on the 5.0, sounds amazing

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Muffler delete and resonator delete

[@MrInzombia]

Marshal Couldron basically straight piped.

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

@@MrInzombia mmmmm, no, its called a muffler delete and not a straight pipe for a reason

[@kevinbreese5739]

BS Dyno numbers, poor tuner, BS E85 blend, and ONE short little race which was nothing more than the EB jumping first off the line, and then hitting the brakes a few seconds later. On top of that we don't even know what is done to the EB.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

You mad bro?

[@kevinbreese5739]

@@MustangLifestyleTV Yup. Tired of BS video's.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Kevin Breese lol dyno numbers are real and rob is a bad ass tuner.

[@cfltitan]

Kevin Breese I'll agree that the dyno numbers were REALLY high but that race was more than a couple seconds and an ecoboost even with just a tune will walk a coyote ALL day long! Even stock for stock they win every time. That ecoboost didn't jump either, they just make a massive amount of torque right off idle so once they're spooled (which he clearly spooled it up) they're just gone. And the E85 blend was normal considering they only put a 5 gallon jug into a tank of normal gas. It takes a couple fill ups to get it full E85. You're about a fucking moron bud.

[@chuck4abuck1]

Buy the 5.0 !! If you use your truck to work or pull heavy weight. Buy the 5.0 If you want to drag race buy a mustang . Oh btw i own the 5.0 and the eco

[@ethan2570]

May i ask why??

[@chuck4abuck1]

@@ethan2570 sure 5,0 has way longer engine life under a daily load . And lower maintenance cost ( turbo) You actually get lower mileage pulling with the ec boost engine . I have had them both . Love my e boost . But the power is almost identical ( not on paper ) 5.0 is probably stronger and longer living in working conditions. Both are good trucks Eboost a little more fun and better fuel mileage un loaded . If your working no doubt 5.0

[@The_swiitch]

Can I be frank in the background lol sick

[@whatsreallygoingon253]

Loving the 7up fox body driven by a fox lol

[@juniordiaz6445]

Ecoboost>5.0

[@02mp9696]

All i know is back in the day, the 90s, trucks were in the 18 sec plus range. 12 sec is ridiculous lol. Im happy with my 18 z71 times lol

[@madram1727]

As a ram owner I’m a little jealous of the a10 5.0 f150s 😭 Hopefully I’ll be able to run one soon though and see how my ram does against one 💪

[@Bean091]

Call bs no way that 5.0 made 400 hp with just a tune.

[@yzf400rider]

yea Im with you on that one.

[@CarlosShoboost]

That's not stock!! No.way !! That thing got long tubes n mani

[@aaronortiz4259]

Gapplebees

[@rayray7663]

That was a 4wd take off for sure vs 2wd

[@townhall05446]

But the 2wd was not sitting there spinning it's wheels, the 3.5 was pulling away strong the whole time.

[@Vanjrl337]

Supercharger might help lol.

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

5.0 should last longer being under less stress

[@JohnDiMartino]

Trudeau Must go make sense since the 5.0 is revving to 7000 rpm,and the ecoboost is a full forged engine spinning to maybe 5500.....

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

@@JohnDiMartino never need to redline it, are you serious? Were talking about boost pressure and direct injection here. A v8 will inherently turn less rpm for a given load producing less revolutions also resulting in less wear. Use your head next time moron.

[@jim6807]

The new 5.0’s have problems I wouldn’t get one. 3.5 is proven to be reliable.

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

@@jim6807 with a name like jim you're probably an idiot though

[@guerrerok90]

Trudeau Must go 5.0s are not the known to be reliable haha

[@KoolDadCC]

✌🏾drive safe 😂😂😂😂

[@bobbyhammer4889]

I mean its twin turbo vs NA lol

[@Jane1le]

Numbers are so inflated lol

[@noahgullion2]

Janelle Taillon yeah they are

[@twigz5678]

3.5 ecoboost c de la criss de marde sale mes sa marche!

[@dmanlangley7326]

I would say take the eco boost out of low range and try it again

[@townhall05446]

Yeah, sure.

[@ac0gnit073]

5.0 is N/A and the 3.5 has two power adders. Why are we having a competition. Everyone knows the 5.0 with turbos blows the 3.5tt outta the water

[@molsoneh]

what exhaust are you running ?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

muffler delete and resonator delete