Ford F-150 | Ecoboost vs. 5.0 V8 (I've owned both)

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I'm on my second F150, having traded in my 2015 with the 5.0 Coyote V8 for a 2017 with the 3.5 ecoboost. Why did I trade, and what do I like about each engine? I review pros and cons to each motor choice, understand the importance of how torque is delivered on each, how differently they drive, tow and haul, discuss fuel economy, reliability, and finally which would I buy again.
Index:
00:00 - 01:33 Intro
01:33 - 03:46 My Truck History
03:46 - 08:02 5.0 to 3.5 - Why?
08:02 - 14:03 F150 Engine Choices
14:03 - 16:35 Fuel Economy
16:35 - 22:54 Pros and Cons 5.0 vs Ecoboost
22:54 - 24:47 Reliability
24:47 - 28:29 Final Thoughts
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[@BigRockMoto]

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[@protomatala180]

are turbo engines as reliable as natural ? +500K ?

[@TheWanderingGeezer]

Stay away from Jeep!

[@anonimous2451]

@@protomatala180 Nope. Forced Induction Engines do not last. PERIOD.

[@anonimous2451]

First off the Jeep that is trying to imitate a Truck is comical. And the price tag turned me off from the first year they came out. I wouldn't own a present day JEEP and IF I was forced to take one, I would immediately SELL IT. The Galdiator is a large POS pretending to be a truck. F*ck Jeep.

[@tony37068]

For people who change trucks every 100kmiles/10years, it is a personal preference, really does not matter. If plan to own 200kmiles /12+ yrs, it matters。If go by turbo, make sure change oil and coolants. Turbo engines run hoter, oil and coolant deteriorates faster than those of regular engines. I own both: A first gen 2011 3.5L turbo, 77k miles; and a first gen 2011 5.0L 117k miles. I bought both used, So far no major issues on either of the 12-yrs old trucks. Also just boght a 2020 5.7 Tundra. I Iike the 2 older F150s better bcz how they drive , etc. After all, love your truck, maintain them more regularly than should, don't abuse it, then any reputable models should be fine.

[@collinator68]

The answer is simple, put a turbo system on a 5.0!

[@seanhershey3390]

This!

[@falconwaver]

Why not a root or twin screw?

[@sbfguy7793]

@@falconwaver this.

[@seanhershey3390]

@@falconwaver even better..& readily availible.

[@ryanwooden8839]

Or Supercharger

[@kurtdanielson993]

For the money they want for these trucks, they should be just about perfect. Can't believe people put down $65,000 on a new truck and then have a hard time keeping it out of the repair shop. For that much money it should be rock solid and dependable.

[@alschbachb]

I know new trucks and suvs are so ridiculously expensive now

[@donraptor6156]

And you can dream then! With complexity you sacrafice reliability.

[@elfiero50]

maybe new trucks aren't for you? perhaps you need to stick with 20 y.o. vehicles you can afford? Face it, new vehicles are no better than older ones 10+ years old for dependability , they just cost more. perhaps you should worry more about getting a job that pays more?

[@kurtdanielson993]

@@elfiero50 LOL, my Ford is 24 and runs great. The most I have ever spent on a vehicle is $12,000. Was complaining for people I know that had lots of problems with new, expensive trucks. I can afford a $65,000 truck, but because of the way I was raised, I just don't want to buy one.

[@miklomorales4768]

Then buy a tundra lol

[@Bacnow]

I’m a 2.7 EB kinda guy! That fortified engine block is built like a tank and it’s NANO too! I have watched a million engine tear down videos (thanks to “I Do Cars”) and the engineering that went into that engine is truly impressive and even had the host somewhat speechless!

[@_ROMANS_116]

You still like it? I’m looking to get one over the 5.0?

[@jamesd6801]

I had a 2016 Navigator I sold a few months ago, and I had 260,000 miles with very minimal issues. My only repairs were the radiator fan and rear the AC blower fan. That 3.5 EcoBoost was so awesome! I upgraded for a 17 Navigator just for requirements for my limo license. Biggest key is keep clean oil in that motor!

[@user-ne3ze4zz7r]

Great content from someone that has actually owned and experienced both rather than some forum posting person that has owned neither and just regurgitates what they hear from other people.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks

[@ScottAnd]

This is the best comment here

[@tracecronk3727]

I’ve had a 2011 f150 5.0 and now a 2017 f150 platinum 5.0. I just love that v8 motor it’s so awesome! Solid engine

[@CamaroSS-sy2ei]

The 5.0 Coyote is a beautiful engine, even just to look at. And this is coming from an old Chevy guy.

[@alb12345672]

@@CamaroSS-sy2ei It Descends from the 4.6 DOHC 4vFord motors. Those were some of the most reliable engines ever made.

[@vintonfoughty8467]

i have the 2011

[@nicholasbarth114]

@@alb12345672 minus the whole cam phaser issue. I'll take a 2v anyday. Couldn't pay me to take a stock 3v or 4v. That said, ford seems to have figured out dohc's in the 5.0. 262k miles on my 2012.

[@alb12345672]

@@nicholasbarth114 4vs are extremely reliable. If Ford used them in Trucks as their v8 they would have a lot more customers. They never blow plugs either. the 5.0 is essential the 4v with cam phasers. I have 200K on a lincoln continental. Runs the same as it did at 50K. Again, pretty much the same engine without phasers.

[@caseymaples19xx]

I’ve owned all three engines in this order 2012 3.5 eco, 2019 5.0 , 2022 2.7 eco , and now 2022 3.5 eco. The 3.5 is by far the best my first 3.5 180,000 miles no issue other than the moisture build up in the intercooler a drill bit fixed that in a few seconds. The new 3.5 is leaps above the old one.

[@tanman7879]

Dude, this is the best automotive video I’ve seen in a while. You made a lot of good points here. Thank you

[@truckertoddllc]

My Ecoboost has 154,000 mi on it and it's never had any problems. It's a very reliable truck

[@lekikelekona9809]

What year f150 do you have?

[@truckertoddllc]

@@lekikelekona9809 2014.

[@zoobrizz]

Who would buy a truck with a Eco ? Just embarrassing

[@truckertoddllc]

@@zoobrizz every person I've ever met who said that has never driven an ecoboost or owned one. Perhaps you would be embarrassed by the ecoboost because you need a V8 to compensate for your short comings in other areas of your life.

[@davidgray8089]

@@truckertoddllc So why did Ford pipe in fake engine noise if their customers don't have compensation issues?

[@jeffgenchi5863]

Great video and very accurate. As a mechanic I work allot in the eco boost 3.5. I find most the issues come around 70k miles. Main issues to look for are coolant leaks at turbo fittings, oil leak from brake booster pump (rear driver side head at fire wall.) This will poor oil down the trans. The third main one because of the heat and pressure is the timing cover leak. The fourth which is a Ford favorite is stretching timing chains. Now, it is a great engine and he is right. If you tow heavy weight in high elevation the 3.5 is great. But I feel for the average driver the 5.0 will give better long term reliability. Maybe throw a catch can for the oil on the valves (do that for both 3.5 or 5.0 without the dual injection stem.)

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks for sharing

[@TubeBrowser2]

Don't forget the cam phasers.

[@_....____......_]

@@TubeBrowser2 Wrong engine and generation. That was 2004-2008 F150's (11th gen). In 2009.5 (12th generation), Ford redone the 5.4 triton 3 VALVE V8 to solve the issues with the cam phasers (for the most part). 2010 was the final year for this motor (Triton). In 2011, Ford release the 5.0 Coyote V8 for the F150 & Mustang GT. Please don't spread misinformation, doing research not only covers you but also helps other readers out.

[@_....____......_]

I agree, the 5.0 is definitely better in my opinion for the average user. Turbos can be fun, but they tend to burn oil much quicker. I know this because I have my first turbocharged vehicle at the moment, and oil changes are much more mandatory and frequent then usual.

[@armando7116]

@@_....____......_ Didn’t Ford fixed the problem at 2017+ for the 3.5 eco boost? I drive about 35 min for work so I want reliability (4 door of course) but I also want to compare the gas mileage on 3.5 vs a 5.0, is it any difference? Don’t get me wrong I love the sound of the coyote v8. 5.0 for the single cab tho lol

[@timeonly1401]

I usually don't like purely talking videos... but there was so much information and useful 1st-hand experience related here, I hardly noticed the 1/2 hr going by. Thx!!

[@troybayliss46]

I got the powerboost a couple months ago after driving the 5.4L triton V8 for twenty years and I couldn't be happier!

[@joshuagagne4167]

I have had the 2.7 in 3 of my f 150s. The one I put 70,000 miles on in in one year towed my 7,500 pound boat to Florida 3 times. Love the moter plenty of power and has 190,000 miles running strong.

[@BoostedBoyd]

@@ShadyGrady3 what would you know? I walk v8's all day long with my 2.7L. Paul Paul lmao

[@michaeldiamond76]

@@BoostedBoyd I agree, I have a 3.5 twin turbo explorer sport and can't even see the people in my rear view mirro after a minute . They don't even know what happened to them 😅

[@freedomisntfree_44]

You don’t hear of any problems with the 2.7 either, punchy little engine for sure

[@possumwilliams2940]

I've got a 2019 2.7L Ecoboost and I love it....Sport 4x4 crew cab ...it runs great and tows everything I have. The turbos also help climbing hills...👍🤠

[@davegordon6943]

​@@possumwilliams2940it's fun blasting up mountains passing all the v-8s. Turbos love that mountain air

[@joeydomino6567]

Excellent job breaking down key decision points, I just went through this process myself on these engine options. I'm a turbo guy from waay back, that low end torque is great. My biggest benefits are that torque especially for towing and putting a smile on my face when needed. The 2017 Gen 2 update and 10 speed trans a plus also. Maintenance doesn't bother me I'm happy to do it, frequent synthetic oil changes are key. I do love the Coyote, but couldn't resist the EB's torque charms. Nice video, very informative.

[@goatmaster3387]

Great video. I've owned a 2013 f150 5.0, 2019 F250 Powerstroke, and now the 2021 Powerboost. The Powerboost hybrid is my favorite engine so far.

[@teop7887]

So I used to think the same way about V8s vs ecoBoosts... In '19 I was in the market for an F150, and I've driven both. Loved the V8 growl, loved even more the twin turbos punch. I researched both engines, and discovered that more ecoBoosts were running at over 100 and 200k miles on the odometer. Also, the newer ecoBoosts had many of the flaws prior, resolved. So I got a beautiful '19 King Ranch with the ecoBoost, and I just LOVE this engine. I drive it 95% of the time in eco-Mode, and it makes a noticeable difference in acceleration, driving, and fuel consumption. ...in Sport Mode, it's INSANE. I've since added an Oil Catch Can, an AFE cold air intake, and Magnaflow exhaust. Amazing 👍

[@dillonyt8099]

Is she still holding up currently?

[@chonkyb3134]

How is the reliability of the transmission?

[@Johnsmith46392]

Didn’t they go to dual fuel injectors before ‘19?

[@albertlott5454]

I use to be a V8 guy all the time but was really impressed with the 3.5 EB.

[@billfrete8487]

did yours blow on you yet? NA motors don't require as much maintenance and costly repairs.

[@crewdawg2008]

I test drove a 3.5 before I bought my 5.0 F150. To me, the 3.5 didn't feel like it was even on par with the 5.4 I was trying to replace. Maybe it was just THAT truck, maybe not. Either way, I feel good about my decision on the coyote

[@fastdude2002]

A non-turbo engine generally lasts longer is what mechanics have always told me. I will take a n/a V8 over a small turbo engine any day.

[@crewdawg2008]

@@fastdude2002There are both pros and cons to turbo engines. The increase in pressure under a load can certainly become the downfall. Displacement has always been, and will always be, a major factor. Asking a smaller displacement engine to consistently do the work of a larger displacement engine will, invariably, wear down the smaller engine far faster than the larger engine. Adding turbos just so a smaller engine can potentially do more work, only serves to compound this issue. Now, the smaller engine has to not only do all this work, but has the added issue of all that increased pressure being shoved into it by the turbos, then add even more with the direct injection they use. This is why those mechanics you mentioned have said what they've said, and they're not wrong. Just to illustrate that even Ford realized this, let's look at engine history a little bit. The 300 inline 6 and 351W were engines available not only in the F150, but also F250. Later, the 5.4 was also made available in the F250. So enter the 3.5 ecoboost to replace the 5.4 in the F150, but the 3.5 is nowhere to be found in the F250 line. Why? Because Ford knew that that platform would be asking too much of that engine and the small displacement would never hold up.

[@crewdawg2008]

@Lukas zzstu Sikorski I have noticed that, and I find it interesting what a historical change that is for them. As an example, if we look back just a couple of decades, we find that Ford used the 351W as not only the large engine choice for the F150, but also as an entry level engine option for the F250, and the subsequent replacement for the 351, being the 5.4, the same situation, however the 3.5 EB is presumed to be the 5.4s direct replacement in the F150, it is notably absent from the larger trucks. I find that fairly telling in itself. The engineers know what's up.

[@webmastersof]

I have watched hundreds of comparison videos about these trucks and you have by far the best comparison videos I have ever seen! Thank you for sharing this! Thumbs up!

[@BigRockMoto]

Wow thank you

[@thaddeustroyer]

I have a 3.5 myself and I agree as well... even if you are from cali. 🤣 I found your info about mountain towing knowledgeable and informative and even with my A.D.D. I actually watched all 28 min of your video with minimal skipping. Thank you, keep up the good work.

[@Ks-zz9lh]

Much love for posting the torque charts and all the great details you mentioned! Great video.

[@xavierdeveto2621]

Ive got a F150 Platinum with the 6.2l V8 (411HP/434TQ)... I get about 13-14mpg not towing anything, and 11-12 towing 9-11k. All that said I absolutly love this truck. I used to not like f150s and was a Dodge/Gmc guy but the Platinum hooked me and there's no turning back now lol. These Platinums are nice, elegant, and comfy. love your channel and personally think your advise is all great. Thanks for all the great vids!

[@117775EM]

This was the most comprehensive and balanced review on not only Ford F-150 engine choices for proposed use but I also appreciate how impartial you are with respect to other pick up manufacturers. For someone like me who has never owned a pick up truck, I always here anecdotal perspectives that can be confusing, untrue or out right bad advice. We plan to buy a trailer for vacationing and need a truck for towing. I like the Ford F-150 as well as the Ram 1500 Laramie and the Tundra. Plan to make a purchase soon. Thanks again.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks. You can't beat the ecoboost for towing. Only thing better, a diesel heavy duty

[@Steve-qo4hi]

We are in the process of buying a slightly used F150 as a 3rd vehicle and I found your presentation extremely well done. Straight and to the point. Thanks you!!

[@michaelwall5173]

At some point it will smoke.

[@RichardCWard]

Your video and detailed discussion of the pros and cons of different engines was excellent. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge.

[@JourneyMN]

Those cold sweats and vivid dreams are a serious side effect I had as well. It’s really your rem sleep cycles restoring and your finally able to fully process your thoughts,feeling, emotions.

[@calircpilot4261]

Thank you for such informative video. Your spec slide on the 2nd gen eco boost showed a black screen if you wonder about feedback on the video production but your explanation and charts did it for me. I went for the 2017 King Ranch with the 3.5 eco boost from my 2009 F150 King Ranch with the original 5.4 V8 (and 190,000 miles after). I think I chose right but time will tell. Stay safe!

[@WhalerGA]

The Coyote 5.0 makes plenty of low-end torque, but any naturally-aspirated engine is going to be short on torque and power at high elevations.

[@glennmurray176]

Great video, thanks for your effort in explaining your experiences. I too was skeptical about the longevity of a complex twin turbo engine when I bought my 2013. But I fell in love with all the useable power of the ecoboost and bought it anyway. I just now passed 150K with zero issues except for a transmission recall that did affect my truck. (Repaired under warranty at 135K miles) Other than that problem the only time this truck has been in the shop is for normal maintenance such as oil changes and routine brake replacement. I'm also very impressed with how tight the chassis still feels after so many miles. I too, tow quite a bit and it's seen its share of washboard gravel roads. No squeaks or rattles and if one didn't know it, they'd think it had 40-50K miles on it. When it comes time to replace this in the next few years I will likely stick with the new gen 3.5 or that new hybrid.

[@CHEECHMUN]

2 days ago, I bought the 3.5 Ecoboost, 2020 Lariat w/ the 501a pack, w/ 20k. You would think it's brand new and it can haul ass!!!

[@jonasharvey8390]

I’m in the market for a newer f150 and this video is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for talking the time to compare the 5.0 and the 3.5!!!

[@stupedaso4935]

What are gonna go with? 3.5 or 5.0

[@RicG.]

To me it's really silly and annoying that they pipe in "engine sound" through the speakers in an attempt to make the ecoboost sound better/louder. I'd prefer it to be as quiet as possible. To me that would be a great selling point, as long as the power is there.

[@Not2BadFIFA]

Sound like a granny, bud

[@i3oosted]

Can it be turned off? I want a quiet ride.

[@adamhymas4620]

But people won't know you're tough as you drive by.

[@jeffreycastillo170]

Its very easily turned off, or even turned on if you don't have it.

[@redsoxwinagain2007]

As a kid, I used to put a baseball card in my bicycle spokes to make it sound like a motorcycle. It was so cool. Now as an old man, I appreciate quietness.

[@jeremypefferkorn8640]

Great review. I chose the 3.5 eco. Can’t wait to get the new one. My 2013 ecoboost is still kicking it and I love it

[@jamesfishlipsie]

I was really impressed with your knowledge of towing. I don't towing much, my full sized motor cycles every now and again, but other than that i don't tow. im interested in the differences between the 5.0 and the 3.5. I've had the 5.0 in a 2012 F-150 and i was very happy with it. I bought it new and i only put 66.000 miles on it. l loved all the options on it. It was an XLT model, but I wanted to test drive some of the other engines. Ford has a lot of options now, something they didn't have 10 years ago. When I drove the 3.5 I was blown away. Long story short I bought the Lariat with a 2021 Lariat with the 3.5 eco boost engine and this car drives so much better than my last truck. Plus it seems to have more power as well. I'm happy that I traded up. You do an incredible job of explaining all that you did and I'm happy that I found your site, Thank you.

[@Picklemedia]

Confirmation bias at its finest

[@peterodriguez2364]

Nice informative video... I drive a 2012 eccoboost and love it.. ive replaced plugs and coils as they go out but no other major issues as of yet.. I do believe regular maintenance is key..oil changes every 5k.. im nearing 300k on the odometer and still pulls strong. Again.. thanks for the informative video

[@Hotelpalace504]

Best honest review on both engines.

[@kellismith4329]

Very well articulated description of the engines

[@Geriatric_Gaming]

Very informative and unbiased. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@jimblackbird5678]

I have the 2012 3.5 ecoboost. I had issues with dirty sputtering valves. I installed an oil separator and problem solved. 140k miles now, it’s a keeper!

[@wade0921]

Thanks for your fair editorial/comparison. I think you are knowledgeable and honest, especially when you said to take the JD Power reports and Consumer reports with a grain of salt, as they are just an advertising thing. Your creditability went up in my eyes when you said that. Also when you talked about going online. I had researched the pros and cons of both before bought my 2014 (yes, the heavy one before they went aluminum) F-150 Lariat 5.0. I knew what I was getting myself into and am happy with my choice for what I use it for. The points you brought up were the same as my research brought to light albeit with more detail and examples. Thank you,

[@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS]

This guys video so good man. He didn't have a lot of dead spots and he got to the information fast.

[@kingogreen4609]

He's tha ish good review

[@wayabey5905]

You're good at vehicle reviews. I learned way more than anticipated just now

[@darrellnewbury5051]

I bought a tuner for my 2016 5.0 and love the way this engine works. If I need more power I would either turbo charge it or install a supercharger. But for now it works and pulls just fine.

[@jeanvinel5667]

Excellent explanation of advantages and disadvantages of both of these engines. I love the 5.0 in my f150, but after watching your video, I have a new appreciation for the qualities of the 3.5. Thank you!

[@BigRockMoto]

No worries

[@johnhoover6717]

What year do you have?

[@timradke7775]

I hate the v6 for towing, and it’s way too light of a truck to tow a heater trailer

[@Picklemedia]

Before you buy watch some of Scotty Kilmer explain the advantages or disadvantages of turbocharging. He actually knows what he's talking about, but more importantly he has integrity.

[@tw5681]

Really great video. Very informative. I have an ecoboost f150 and I didn't realize it had more lower end torque at lower rpms than 5.0. No problems yet and 134k miles.

[@nextlevelbjj3083]

How you like it today? Recently bought one at 114,000 miles

[@tw5681]

@@nextlevelbjj3083 I love my f150. I have 159k now. No engine work yet but replaced 1 turbo and the torque converter. I recently towed my 16 foot trailer with 7,000 pounds of gravel on it and the truck did fine. The truck also has a tall topper with ladders and tools in the side doors of the topper.

[@antonionavarrogodinez8365]

Hreat video, ive been watching a lot of videos about the 2018 5.0 you're the first to really compare both vehicles, thank you so much

[@CapeAnnImages]

Great breakdown! I've had the 2.7 on my 2017 and 2020. With the 2020 I towed my 5800lb boat 75 miles from NH to Mass and the average was 18.1 mpg! Now I have the 5.0 in my 2023 F-150 I picked up last week. Both my 2020 and 2023 have the 36 gallon tank.

[@johnnyparker5]

In a similar situation here as I drive a 5.0 at work and own a 3.5. While they're both great compared to trucks just 10 years ago I never regret having the 3.5, the full torque at low rpm can't be beat by other gas motors.

[@AG2W]

Same boat here. I have a 13' with the 5.0 for work and a 19' with the 3.5 and the 10 speed as my personal truck, and the 3.5 is just so much more fun to drive.

[@upperpine]

Thanks. I'm currently driving a 2014 F-150 V-8 and have been considering the EcoBoost in my next truck. Your straightforward info answered a lot of questions.

[@kingogreen4609]

Don't do it

[@denismguitar1552]

If you tow much at all, don’t do it. If it’s a car for you, then maybe ok if you keep it serviced very well. Do NOT go far on the oil changes. Good friend of mine is a trained career Ford mechanic. 36 years. For the record, majority of the experienced Ford mechanics pick the 5.0L for a long term truck.

[@Tayerful]

The 3.7L Cyclone is pretty dope. Sounds nice, naturally aspirated and reliable/ easy to work on.

[@sqd37l]

yeah really dope

[@brians91]

Best review ever. Very informative and direct. Good job!

[@bradsmith4219]

I have a 2013 Eco-boost with 258,000 on it. Not the first engine issue. Have a 2017 Eco-boost with 10 speed. It has been fantastic, as well. Oh yeah. Towing. I regularly tow over 10,000 lbs., mostly liquid nurse wagon. For anyone who has towed liquids, they have a special issue, sloshing. Love my Eco-boosts!

[@darylsmioth1904]

10 speeds would be insane, mine (2014) has 6 but manage 18.5 mpg 40 min drive to work.

[@Khaymen223]

You tow over 10k with a half ton truck?

[@nateg08]

​@@Khaymen2233.5 eb with max towing package (aux trans cooler, bigger alternator, oil cooler, sway control and all the rest) is capable. My 3.5 is rated for over 12k lbs.

[@Khaymen223]

@nateg08 in my opinion------it's still a half ton truck period. All these guys talking about what a truck can pull , ignore what a truck SHOULD pull. No half ton truck on earth , no matter what brand/ mods should EVER pull 10k. Ever. Any driver that does so is endangering the lives sharing the road with him. If you wanna tow real weight, buy a truck made for pulling weight. That means F250/ 2500/ 350/ 3500. Sure my Silverado 1500 can pull 9700#. I have a trans cooler, oil, air bags. weight distribution, max package ect.. I'll never get near that weight. Why? Cause I'm careful, and care about my family and others lives.

[@henryfam58]

Thanks for the great comparison review. Especially thank you for pointing out the validity or lack of validity of JD Powers and Consumer Reports. I've been in the Automotive manufacture industry for 3 different brands and have seen absolute hog wash published by these journals. I've also seen a complete turn around of opinion when one of their subsidiary companies are hired. Their credentials are worthless in my opinion. You sir lay out the facts and let the viewer decide what will fit their needs best. Bravo!

[@devenoodle6251]

Wow dude! so much relevant information all in one video. thanks, you really nailed it.

[@paulbuschman8318]

This and your towing tutorial were very helpful. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@frankcelle744]

I have a 2019 5.0L I came out of colorado with a 4cyl. Had to drive that smaller truck for a couple years for commute. Always had v8 trucks, so when I was ready to get back into a full size truck I just really wanted a v8. When my lease is up I would consider an ecoboost for sure. Just love that V8 sound. Also, good review and information, you put alot research and information in the video!

[@andyd9199]

i had a 2014 xtr 5.0 L and i've been really happy on my second winter in xlt 302A package 2018 with 2.7 eco boost

[@jpete3027666]

I haven't been a fan of smaller, turbocharged engines in large trucks but I think I am coming around to them. A guy I know has a fleet of these ecoboost F150s and they all get upwards of 200k miles on them with no issues.

[@intensepisgahbiker]

I buy new F150s and 250s for my business, and we trade them at about 200k miles. I've had 5.4s, 5.0s, 2.7s, 3.5s in the F150s, and 6.7 diesel and 7.3 gas in 250s. The only engine to give us any issues was the 6.7 in a F250.

[@jackg7225]

Good video. I watched it cuz I’ve owned a 2010 with the V8 and currently a 2011 with the ecoboost. I love the power of the turbo. It was good to hear the difference between the two when towing. I’m very happy when towing my 3,500 lb travel trailer, the engine has no power issues handling going up mountain passes. I felt like the v8 got better gas mileage but maybe I just get my foot in the turbo more. I only got rid of the 2010 because of hail damage the 1st summer.

[@Markomyt1]

Great overview! I like that you covered all of the engine options.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thank you very much!

[@robreighter2851]

Excellent Excellent review; well thought out, articulate and informative. Thank you!

[@johnhoover4565]

I have a 14 ecoboost fx4 f150 and absolutely love it. Zero issues with it being 10 years old

[@dope_prolific]

Also with n/a engines, they struggle more at high elevation due to lack of air induction. Turbos are freaking awesome for smashing through high elevations! I love my ecoboost!

[@Bikedueder]

No, they struggle because there is less air to begin with... Sure forcing air in will improve matters, but it is still struggling whether you realize it or not... The turbochargers are spinning faster to make the same power as sea level.

[@dope_prolific]

@Bikedueder the inertia of the flywheel still keeps the engine turning, there's less ambient air inside of the intake manifold for the combustion chambers which is why n/a engine's struggle at high elevation. To much fuel not enough air on carb engines, fuel injection cycle ramps down to keep the mixture stoich, resulting in lack of power Edit: fuel injection cycle ramps down on fuel injected engines lol, realized I wasn't specific after talking about carb

[@chewyb383]

@@Bikedueder You are incorrect. I've owned at least 12 trucks (suv/truck..12-22 models) in the last decade. I've run the 5.3, 6.2(gm), 5.4, 5.0, 3.5 (ford) and 6.4 ,6.7x3 (ford) Currently running another 22 eco boost in the last 10 years. The boost helps a ton in the mountains. I live at around 700ft. My cabin is at 8900ft. There is a huge difference in the power with a forced induction engine. I've ran all of them like a bat out of hell. I drive 40-50k miles a year. I tow travel trailers as well as 2 sxs. The boost absolutely helps and they are durable as long as you do proper maintenance. I've run all over 100k.

[@Picklemedia]

Confirmation bias.

[@lansonfloyd4687]

Ford is also now Direct and Port Injected

[@WillS644]

I just wanted to say you did a very good job with your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it and for posting.

[@bigb27me]

very helpful, as usual! Really appreciate your review & comparison vids. Thanks 👍

[@ron4843]

Excellent job with the comparison. I've owned both engines as well. I have a 21 F-150 Lariat with the 5.0 & it's great because I don't tow a big camper anymore. The 3.5l would be my choice if I still towed anything over 6k lbs.

[@codylucier4688]

They both awsome my dad had a 19 and now a 21 5.0l and I have the 19 3.5. We both havent had any problems at all yet . Honestly I wouldnt chose any other halfton truck I love the fords

[@N-Scale]

Thanks for this video as my son is looking at a 2012 F150 King Ranch with 90,000 on it and it is beautiful. I have read everything about the reliability of them and seen that many have reached 200,000 miles with proper maintenance.

[@georgewashington938]

ventilated seats are an excellent item to have. I rented a suburban on summer vacation and the ventilated seats were one of my favorite things. having the ability to keep your back and butt cooler and dry sweat was great!

[@johnswanson3741]

Snowflake

[@darrelparlapiano2589]

We have a 2015 F-150 with eco boost and besides getting 18 mpg and running on regular we love it, no problems with the truck

[@gian-lucbrasseur207]

8 have a 2020 and get 18 mpg with my 5.0 with my commute.

[@Matas226]

I like the 5.0 V8. I had one in my 1995, 2013, and my 2017. I had the 300 six cylinder in my 1975 and 1983. The 1983 6 cylinder blew 2 exhaust manifolds pulling a fiberglass center console I bought. I went to the 5.0 after that and it pulled it with no problems. I will always buy the 5.0 in my trucks.

[@WhatTheHeck1290]

2013- Best Year. I own one. Thing is a beast on and off-road in the mountains.

[@user-qs2vs6ji4b]

I've actually I the same vehicles 5.0 short bed,1995 300six long bed,Ford ranger 2.3 all bullet proof ,I love find a 300six with low mileage and rust proof frame I drive it still

[@rwe2156]

I want to compliment you on the presentation, explanations and documentation. I’m looking to buy a new truck and it helped me a lot. I’m not sure how this relates but my 2020 Explorer Ecoboost gets 30mpg highway.

[@luissantos9071]

Great video! After 10 months of researching all the trucks, I finally bought the 2017 F-150 3.5 ecoboost. I am not into the heavy sound of a V8 like I would have if I was in my 20's. I pull a travel trailer and I am very happy with my truck's performance. Again, you have done a great engine comparison and torque analysis.

[@pic6162]

Love my 19 Platinum, 3.5L.

[@Adiomans1]

Great video. Had a 2016 5.0. Went to a 2018 sierra with the 5.3, had a ton of transmission issues. Just picked up a 2020 3.5 eco boost today and I’m already loving it.

[@SylentONE]

Do you miss the 5.0?

[@martinchen3838]

I tow a 3200 lb boat-trailer with my 2019 5.0 V8 SuperCrew 4x4 with campershell. Uphill performance (Willamette Pass elev 6000 ft) was fine when towing. Lightly loaded on the freeway I get between 21-22 mpg using the eco-drive transmission setting. So I am happy with towing this moderate load and the fuel economy is way better than I expected. But the thing I like best about the truck is the Pro-Trailer backup assist. It took a little time to set up and get confidence in, but I have a lot less problems at the boat ramp than I used to, which helps me enjoy boating a lot more!

[@johnbranson7253]

Quality, objective review. Got 131K on my ‘15 F150 with 3.5 Eco, it’s been great, I would buy it again. IMO it beats the V8 in every way except the sound.

[@case8987]

My turbo is going out 148k miles lol

[@cccharlie007]

Glad you are having such reliability on your 3.5. My seals blew out at 79k miles.

[@johnbranson7253]

@@cccharlie007 Sorry y'all have had so much trouble; maybe mine is an outlier. It's over 140K now, still rock solid (knocking wood here). I like it so much, I wish I'd bought 2, & could have stored the extra until the 1st 1 wore out.

[@cccharlie007]

@@johnbranson7253 Yes sir I get it. I loved mine and was very.disappointed when the first seal blew. It was a '13 with 79k. So many compliments on that ruck! It was a beauty for sure. Wish you the best .

[@czwarlord9243]

3.5 Eb is a beast of an engine. Well for the half tons anyways.

[@paulhays2171]

I have a 2012 3.5 Eco-Boost with 135K with no issues what so ever. Very reliable.

[@philllsxga.7737]

It's hit and miss. My co worker bought a BRAND NEW 2014 EcoBoost f 1whimpy, 4 trips to the dealership for window issues, the right front tire was BALD at 38,000 miles, the timing chain, stretched cam phaser failed chain tensioner failed at 77,000 miles. After the oil and coolant leaks he traded it in for a 2019 , two days after he bought the brand new 2019 F-1 whimpy the driver's front door would not latch! It bounced opened 3 time's before it would stay shut...

[@paulhays2171]

Like anything else you get a bad one now and then, maybe it was built on a Monday...lol

[@donnacali2340]

I don't know much about trucks, but tow a 4,600 pound camper. We are in the market as we own a 2007 Tahoe . We also had a much smaller trailer and my poor truck tows Utah mountains. Thank you for helping me understand the difference!!!!!!

[@borikr1]

Super informative and up to the point. I wish there were more videos like that. Thank you!

[@robertwright1084]

I have 270,000 miles on my 2013 5.0 F150 XLT I bought new and it still runs like the day I got it! It tows my 25’ foot Sea Ray cabin cruiser without any problems, I think I’ll be sticking with the awesome V-8 sound and longevity LOL 😁👍

[@lukegodbout]

I got 220,000 km on my 2014 3.5 EB. All i did was spark plugs. runs like a top with 20x12 wheels with leveling kit. Fuel economy went to shit after the wheels and level though.

[@robertwright1084]

Very nice! Only 210,000 km more and you’ll be right where I’m at 😁👍

[@lukegodbout]

I’m trading it in for a 2021 f150 I doubt it could go that far haha

[@daveaffolter9697]

I am almost there with my 2012 coyote. 266,000 and some change currently. My buddy has over 320 on his 2011.

[@robertwright1084]

@@daveaffolter9697 It's nice to see other people having the same success I am having with my 5.0, that means it's not a fluke, it's a well engineered motor. I'm at 277,000 now and had to replace the bank 2 catalytic converter last week. Kind of pricey because I live in California but the performance is back to like new!

[@da1ewok]

I just bought a 2018 F150 Lariat 3.5L ecoboost with 36k miles. I traded in my 2009 F150 5.4 Triton Lariat with 185k...Its a whole new driving experience. I loved my 09 looks and sound and had it for 7 years treating me well. The rot was taking over. This new Lariat doesn’t even drive like a truck. The 4WD all the time mode on these new trucks is awesome. Cant get over how quick this thing is . Just did a 4 hour rode trip each way in bad weather and it was so smooth and grabby.

[@BigRockMoto]

Awesome you'll love it

[@theplinkerslodge6361]

You win the Internet for the Day with this vid, great info. I am looking at different age used Expeditions...

[@TDogPI]

I have a 2016 Platinum, 3.5 EB... LOVE IT! And all the goodies and gizmos are awesome!

[@nateg08]

I've got a 3.5 lariat. Not as many features as platinum but still fairly loaded. I love that truck more than any other I've owned.

[@pgcrouch]

I have a 2017 Ford Explorer with the 3.5 EcoBoost and I pull a camper loaded at just under 4k. The Explorer pulled the camper over a pass in the North Cascades while accelerating to 60 mph where appropriate with no issues or high RPM. When I drove my 2000 F350 DRW with a 3k truck camper over the same pass, the truck struggled to go 45 mph with constant downshifting, and very high RPM. While it may not be an apples to apples comparison, it is what it is. I really love the 3.5 EcoBoost. BTW obviously, I'm not a "car guy" just a user.

[@BigRockMoto]

the 3.5 eco is amazing for towing and hauling

[@rtwice93555]

Thank you for sharing this video and the enjoyment you have found with the truck. Near the beginning of the video you shared a picture of yourself among some Joshua trees. That must have been somewhere near me as Joshua trees don't grow too many place other than the Mojave desert. I wish I could share your satisfaction with the 5.0 and the Eco Boost. Unfortunately neither engine has proven very reliable in our fleet. I am a fleet mechanic for a public utility. While most of the vehicles I service are larger three axle trucks, we do have several Ford pickups ranging from F150s to the F550. The F150s see a wide range of use from stop and go to long distances across the desert. For several years the F150s were powered by the 5.4 Triton which held up fairly well. We didn't experience a lot of failures when compared to the 6.0 and 6.4 Diesels in our F550s. In 2011 the company purchased several 5.0 equipped trucks. At around 80,000 miles, several experienced a knocking noise at idle. Eventually the engines would have to be replaced when the timing chain replacement (recommended in Ford's TSB) didn't correct the knocking noise. A few years later the company purchased a handful of 3.5 EcoBoost engines which, as you pointed out, were surprisingly powerful. Unfortunately they haven't proven very reliable. Almost immediately we began experiencing coil and spark plug failures. Ford released a TSB to correct that concern. Not long after that we experienced high oil consumption issues. Again, there is a TSB to address that as well. While not as drastic as what we experienced with the 5.0, it does remind us that the old Triton 5.4 was a very reliable workhorse. More recently the company purchased several 3.7 equipped F150s. While not as powerful as the 5.0 or EcoBoost, they are very fuel efficient. Its too early to determine reliability, but so far they seem to be holding up

[@mikeholt1248]

This video is very comprehensive and informative based on real years of driving experience with and without towing. The mileage comparisons and general info given can enable a person to make a realistic choice of vehicles depending upon his driving habits and needs. Don’t believe the EPA gas ratings or the wonderful accolades and so-called awards won by the different vehicles since most of what you see and hear at the dealership is pure hype & sales pitch. Most people have little to no knowledge of reliability, performance and associated costs from one vehicle to another. This video can give you valuable knowledge so you’ll know which of the subject vehicles is best for you.

[@mcmuskie2563]

I’ve got a 2021 3.5, great truck with 80,000klm. I’m moving up from the Lariat to platinum in the spring, love the engine, lots of get up and go. I tow a lot but all under 3000lbs. I service everything myself, use Amsoil and change at 3,000.

[@bonachma1]

I have an FX4 2013 with the 3.5 eco boost, with over 136k miles, and love it. All around great truck for me. No issues whatsoever and using the 4x4 off-road and sometimes towing is just great 👍🏼

[@codywayne2716]

Still running great? I just bought a 2013 3.5 with 139k on it hoping it last me a long time. First time I heard it run the engine sounded almost like it had a lifter ticking but apparently that’s normal for the ecoboost?

[@me-63]

Yes both 5.0 and 3.5 eco are good choices i love the rumble of the v8 and the fuel milage but the 3.5 pulls like a diesel a smaller one of course. But it pulls if I could afford both I would have one of each

[@bradanderson1024]

Great video, I have a 2.7 turbo 150. Amazing torque, horsepower and being 700lbs lighter because of aluminum body it is like driving a sports car and that's no joke. 2.7 has great fuel mileage as well.

[@Johnsmith46392]

The 0-60 for those two turbo engines is actually better than Ferraris when I was growing up. I was shocked the first time I test drove them!

[@davegordon6943]

​@@Johnsmith46392me too. Dealer told me it was a 2.7 and I about laughed in his face. But then I drove it and I was hooked. little engine rips

[@jodii0380]

I like my 2018 2.7 EB (105k mi.). Sport mode is definitely fun to drive.

[@davegordon6943]

@@jodii0380 the only problem is I can't stay out of the turbos. No eco all boost

[@jackharding98]

Good video, thanks for posting. I have a 2013 3.5L EcoBoost with 110K miles. I bought the truck new, I do all my own maintenance, usually a little ahead of schedule. I use synthetic oil at the interval my truck computer says to (Avg about every 8K miles). I've had zero issues with the motor or trans. It's been a great truck. Towed a 8K LB camp trailer no problem.

[@rygi23]

10 speed trans added to the 5.0 obviously would’ve been a more even comparison between engines as it decreases the performance gap. You wouldn’t have been turning 4000-5000 rpm towing uphill due to gears being so much farther apart, but I understand you were just using the trucks you’ve owned. Still wondering how for 2021 they added 100 lbs/tq to the 3.5 by adding hybrid......570 lbs. is what the 6.0 diesel made LOL. Awesome video very informative and straightforward.

[@jacobm5547]

I chose the 5.0 for my 2014 f-150 fx4. i was buying used in the 100k-130k mile range and i felt like if the previous owner wasn’t as religious about changing the oil as i am, the 5.0 was probably going to chance of not having as much of an impact as the 3.5. i tow a 4-5 k lbs snowmobile trailer at sea level and the 5.0 has more than enough power for that load.

[@josejcastaneda5826]

I have a 2020 with the coyote. I recently towed a 2017 crew cab Silverado for 550 miles. It was 4 people on the cabin and one was extra heavyI I was impressed with how easy it was to tow it. I drove it for 6.5 hrs with the cruse control set at 64-65 and I still had 1/4 of the tank left. I think it is a 26 gallon tank. On the hills the cruise control maintained the speed really well. The transmission downshifted to 5th at about 3500 rpms max. So, I guess that 10 speed is really good and the elevation could be the biggest factor.

[@djjf45]

Great video, thanks for the detailed info and experience

[@tufelhunden5795]

I own a superduty with the 6.7 and the 3.5 ecoboost. I call the ecoboost my mini diesel as it has a very similar feel and tows similar.

[@kingogreen4609]

I only have a 5.4 u dammm show off naw just kidding wit cha but i love 5.0 motors just cant see myself buying a ecoboost in a truck or suv ill stick with my 98 eb 5.4 looking for a excursion actually

[@tufelhunden5795]

@@kingogreen4609 I love V8's but the eco just had better towing numbers. ;)

[@sticks7971]

@@tufelhunden5795 but if you tow everyday why not just get a diesel? I don’t see advantage otherwise. I have both . Drive both 3.5 gets about 18.9Mpg. 5.0 16.9.

[@tufelhunden5795]

@@sticks7971 I bought the ecoboost for a travel trailer and then we decided we would prefer a 5th wheel, which is why I bought the diesel. If I towed everyday for work or was full time RV'ing I would have purchased the diesel to begin with because as you pointed out it's the better setup for towing everyday.

[@ericlightning6395]

I owned a 2013 platinum 3.5 eco boost 6 speed and put 202k miles on it. I really Loved the truck and engine. Traded it in for a 2020 5.0 10 speed lariat. The main difference I’ve noticed is the 3.5 had a lot more power down low and the 5.0 has more power in upper rpm’s. However the 10 speed is loud and sounds like a golf cart. The 5.0 sounds like a diesel after a long drive.

[@6981bpd]

Super informative video! Job well done. I have a 2014 3.5 ecoboost..purchased with 13,000 miles, now have 67,000. Only issues intermittent 5-4 downshift clunk, went into limp mode from bad throttle body, warped rotor from sticking brake guide pin. Pulls like a beast. 16.0-17.0 mpg going 70-75 mph. 18.5-21 mpg 55mph.

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad it helped!

[@lmallard3788]

I am impressed with performance of my 2019 3.5l eb engine. I usually drive in eco mode, but even when pulling a 5000 pound trailer, tow haul mode, gas mpg is 20.4. Mine is xlt max tow crewcab and highest elevation zi have driven it is 5000 ft above sea level

[@billschaefer2051]

Adaptive Cruise control is an amazing feature. I had this in my 2016 F150 Platinum.

[@bigf1502]

I completely agree, I wish that my truck had the adaptive cruise.

[@GoBirds802]

Great video, my man. You did your research. I had a 2017 Silverado with the 5.3 and after I test drove a 2017 3.5 Ecoboost, I fell in love and never looked back. I made a few basic mods so far (more to come) and this truck is a blast to drive. I don’t tow anything, but that torque and turbo noise is hard to deny.

[@doncole6766]

Thanks for the video, as I bought my first F150 2021 3.5 EcoBoost King Ranch. Good information as I will be pulling a 14 foot aluminum trailer with 1000 turbo RZR. I have owned one ton dually Fords since 2006, pulling large 5th wheel RV’s.