We built the FORBIDDEN MAC

[@lukemiani]

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[@davidloschmann5595]

I would try to use OCLP to get an other MacOS on it! ;-)

[@starletscarlet]

@@davidloschmann5595not possible

[@TicTacBell_]

How much did they cost?

[@milojtyler27]

I'd just use it as a daily drive

[@dosdude1]

I'm still in complete awe that this even ended up being possible. Needless to say, I will treasure these restored DTKs for a good long while. If it weren't for those initial 50 drilled DTKs, even though they weren't usable, I probably would have never looked into this any further. Very happy with the end results though, that's for sure!

[@lukemiani]

I can't believe that sanding down an open cut logic board worked, you really do have a way with these devices! I had so much fun being a part of this process!

[@PaperReaper]

Would those DTKs, if replaced with production SOCs, not be able to be used as a home server?

[@dosdude1]

@@PaperReaper I mean if you could get one set up, they could be... Though not being able to get any sort of video output makes that nearly impossible. Not to mention that out of those ~50 drilled boards, only two worked well enough to get to DFU mode and connect to a computer.

[@jonobst]

Collin, there is nothing Mac related you can't make work!

[@leonlionheart5504]

But can they run Linux? Maybe time for some Asahi Experiments?

[@simoncroker2577]

dos dude sounds like a 60 year old detective from new york "hey kid, i been working on mac boards for 40 fucking years "

[@samsowden]

While looking 14

[@JessicaFEREM]

I could only assume it's leaded solder fumes or something.

[@sam7u]

dude hahaha 🤣🤣

[@kodithebear]

new yoik

[@DevonChampion]

🏆

[@mrgrumpy888]

I find the fact that Apple "has" to send the developer kits to China for recycling utterly ridiculous. The system is so broken.

[@Alichandri]

Mother Nature

[@chidorirasenganz]

Tbf it’s probably done through a 3rd party that has facilities in China

[@mrgrumpy888]

@@Alichandri Yeah, thank god they stopped shipping chargers with their phones, otherwise mother nature would be in deep shit right now.

[@PvtAnonymous]

they also do that for repairs and parts as well. Products like the Apple Watch, iPad, Apple TV, HomePods, get repaired/refurbished overseas, hence when you go to "repair" them at your local Apple Store, you get replacements (that were refurbished in that exact way before with someone else's device). Same goes for some refurb parts like screens and logic boards. This might seem inefficient at first glance, but they save a lot that way, not having to pay high wages for skilled technicians in 1st world countries.

[@sihamhamda47]

@@PvtAnonymous No wonder why China is the "heaven" for electronic parts hunter because of how many used parts from around the world gets scraped there

[@Ssin1235]

I think the biggest point we are missing here is that the bios in it allows macOS to run on A series chips. If we get into more deeper dive combine with those checkmate compatible iPhones, we may get the first iPhone to run macOS that is totally forbidden by Apple?

[@CalebEllisComedy]

MacOS plus 2018 iPad Pro!?!? MacOS on iPad finally!?!?!?

[@Gameplayer55055]

Or make iPads actually usable

[@kodefashmodefa]

Ya this thought immediately came to mind when I heard what SOC was being used

[@AyrisX86]

The Developer Transition Kit's CPU is an A12Z, taken from an iPad Air. Unfortunately, the A12 and above are not vulnerable to the checkm8 exploit

[@Moongamuntanga]

It’s so good to see DoseDude1 back in action after so long

[@dionelr]

I'm always amazed at dosdude's skills and excitement at hardware hackery.

[@BEYONDPREMIERE]

dosdude1 is a genius, his man cave looks like insanity. love this channel

[@lukemiani]

It's surprisingly organized!

[@BuenassBuenass]

Nice to see "The Good Doctor" now save hardware too!!!

[@opuu]

Shaun 🤣🤣

[@arturoehr]

I knew I knew the bates motel owner

[@BenchSantosMusic]

He does sound like Shaun!

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😶

[@fuelvolts]

I AM A MAC SURGEON!!!

[@dash8brj]

What surprises me is Apple hasn't blacklisted the DTK serial numbers at the signing step. You can still load big sur onto one if you can get it working. Guess they didn't expect some tech tubers to fix the shorts and solder on nand chips!

[@mattsanchez4893]

I like how Luke continuously says we’re going to build something, when what he really means is Colin is going to build it…kudos Colin!

[@pinkpassionfruit8876]

yeah luke does the same thing in the iphone one video

[@WalterGalindo]

Luke. I love when you do stuff like this, its the same as when they tell you to take an expensive car exclusively to a dealer.... ITS A CAR, just that at the end ITS JUST A COMPUTER, there just a bunch of parts that are supposed to do a thing,if you know how the thing works and can get the parts youll have a working thing, congratulations, great video

[@i4xa]

The dosdude and Luke collab is such a match made in heaven.

[@savagepro9060]

Luke does NOT add ANYTHING to DosDude's content

[@andrewgrant788]

The DTK was a developer machine so it is not too surprising that it has more RAM and storage than a base consumer m3 Mac.

[@broccoloodle]

This is the next stage of this channel. One guy knows how to talk, one guy knows how to do. Congrats

[@DrStrange-yh6lw]

This has a 12z chip right, how different does it run Mac OS Big Sur over an M1 chip? Will there be any issues as such?

[@lukemiani]

It runs perfectly fine, a little janky just because it wasnt really built to be a Mac (but thats not a commentary on the chip, just the weird DTK). Still faster than most Intel MacBooks!

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

even an A10 would be plenty fast enough for 99% of users just like 8 gb are plenty for them

[@goober2969]

"There's no way I'm putting my Apple ID on here" - but you'll make a KZbin video and show it to thousands of people. 🤣 Nice video dude. Just yanking your chain.

[@hugodebosson377]

Very dope Video Luke ! So interesting to see you and DOSDude build a special kind of Frankenstein Mac ! Amazing !

[@thehobnob]

Are there any Intel DTKs still floating about from the PowerPC transition?

[@nkydn]

the three bios batteries give it away immediately

[@lukemiani]

The story behind those goes that Apple was moving the A12Z from the iPad, which has a built in battery to keep the BIOS powered, and realized it drew too much power for a Mac mini. So they slapped 3 batteries on it, which would last 6 months. The exact amount of time these machines were deployed.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

It’s cool to see a Mac with an A12Z. Now with Framework laptops we can all feel like Dosdude upgrading and replacing stuff on our laptops. I wish Apple would take after Framework but I can’t see that happening.

[@StaceyAyodele]

they would never. They want total control over their profits and over how you use their computers.

[@samsowden]

They are publicly traded, it not only won't happen, it basically can't happen.

[@chidorirasenganz]

Also the build polish on framework laptops is leagues below anything I would release this side of 2016

[@helloukw]

Given the fact that even the ssd is soldered in a mac there's no way the will go to the extreme length of being modular like a framework and even their clientele is not the same as framework's.

[@lukemiani]

How'd you guess next week's video 😉

[@ultraviolettp3446]

Dosdude is the ultimate geek. I'm in love. He is an incredible and intelligent man who inspires through his thorough preparation and logic. I did manage to see his video on this board prior to seeing this and I am so impressed. Thanks, Luke, for this video. You have a great channel and are the best fruit fly that the Fruit company company has on youtube. You do so much more than breathlessly opine about what is coming and whining when that never shows up.

[@jdsbkotevjk]

DosDude1 is my hero

[@superhavi]

He's a hero for all of us!

[@kopprev]

This is great, Luke. It's so much in the spirit of fighting e-waste. I think the next step would be to explore running it with Linux. Forget the Apple ID-- it's a great Asahi Linux box.

[@josephjuanaliagavalenzuela2345]

For some reason this has been a fun video to follow, your enthusiasm when the led worked had me smile and jump lol

[@poontony]

Thank you for making these fun videos - definitely different from the 99.999% of the tech videos out there.

[@JerameatC]

Its really not surprising that the board is built like a production ready board. It took only 6 months to push the m1 out. But this being rebuilt is super awesome. Congrats🎉

[@moshmoshpitpit]

Man... I miss my DTK. This was an awesome video. Thanks so much for making it!

[@jacklwipa1187]

We need more Collabs from you two. I love the DosDude cameos

[@MarkP024]

So is it possible to Frankenstein this OS on an iPad? Maybe by soldering this memory in an iPad? Or flash the software?

[@99domini99]

I don’t think there are any technical reasons why an iPad won’t run MacOS except for Apple blocking it through firmware. I don’t think the low level firmware of an iPad will ever allow booting MacOS. I suppose these DTKs are configured differently to allow it to work.

[@miguimau]

Where the magic comes from. Dosdude1, you are a legend.

[@Archived_Rem]

A12Z so basically its an 2018 Mac Pad Pro Mini. Badasssssss. Wish you guys were in NC, ive been tearing down so many devices, Solid Video bro

[@wierzbi8568]

I love the Developer Transition Kit content! I hope someday I will be able to get my hands on it. By the way, is it possible to run a Asahii Linux on it?

[@LellePrinter82]

2 of my favorite youtubers in one video? Priceless! Good job.

[@default1647]

I watched repair video some time ago the dude is out of this world :) btw this is nice video also :)

[@blk124]

I like these pirate like type videos! Keep on searchin the good ole forbidden apple treasures mate!

[@TheBigBazzy]

You know its a banger when Dos Dude shows up

[@rob.granger]

Love these! Colin saved a couple of my 2011 Macs and did the GPU bypass on my 17" MBP. Now that OCLP is better, I need to see if it runs any better on the newer os.

[@r.davidpoehner4974]

Thanks, Luke. So cool and really fun to watch.

[@hanksimon1023]

So cool! About 15 years ago, I built a Hackintosh [which still limps along] from a tiny Dell Inspiron laptop. Your forbidden Mac is so much cooler! Congrats!!!

[@josemedeiros007]

Luke, cool video and collaboration with Collin Mistr.

[@MIDO2802]

Collin dosdude the legend

[@AmrEhabKamel]

I am more astonished by the fact that DosDude is not an old guy than the Mac build! Duuuuuuudeeee!!! 😮😂

[@ONEHENDRIX]

4:09 I can’t believe I understood everything he just said. Dude is doing God’s work.

[@atldeadhead]

This video was so enjoyable. Dosdude's excitement was very satisfying to watch

[@gavinendsley]

I love the dosdude collabs you need to do more of these

[@Photo0021]

That's wild, honestly. Glad we were able to salvage this portion of Apple's history.

[@JonTrott]

You two bring joy. So much fun to watch.

[@CCC54E]

This vid was great entertainment. Just the looks and expressions of glee you your faces was worth the "price of admission." Thanks.

[@abbey8k]

@dosdude1 is awesome, such a great team both of you! Nice one Luke

[@zaz5190]

13:48 can Macs Fan Control stop the fan working all the time?

[@theneuz3131]

DosDude1 is a legend, used his catalina patcher on older mac books, legend haha

[@emilsecker7881]

Should really upgrade those. The hardware is shit. You’re polishing a turd with a turd

[@fmarinosfromafar9512]

That's awesome, well done Luke and dosdude!

[@lsdave]

Dosdude is a legend!! LOVE these videos

[@Whataburger2319]

Gotta give you props bro that’s raw asf no cap lol

[@carlsouthern]

Dosdude is an absolute legend

[@omarfmercado]

Set it up as a docker machine or even a Plex Server. It would not need to sleep and it would provide full functionality. Great video!.

[@SamCoder.]

Wow! Always fun to own a Mac that others can't... Nice!

[@quentinbertrand4831]

You guys are freaking wizards ! I really enjoyed this video. Thumbs up !

[@limonetexd]

Wow! That's wild. I can't believe someone managed to do this

[@BeyondNarratives]

12:19! Gold!

[@just_mdd4]

It boots up! 🤯

[@Geekergamer007]

Did you try Opencore Legacy Patcher ?

[@SterkeYerke5555]

I was thinking the same. You might not even have to install OCLP on the DTK itself. Just using an installer that was made with OCLP for a more modern version of MacOS might be enough, because it removes the compatibility checks

[@dosdude1]

This will not work with OpenCore in any way, as it doesn’t use UEFI at all (and is ARM of course). However, I have saved a few of these DTKs to send to fellow members of the OCLP team, with which we will work and attempt to get later macOS versions working on the DTK.

[@SterkeYerke5555]

@@dosdude1 Makes sense! I wasn't even aware that Apple Silicon didn't use UEFI. I'm very curious to see if you can get it to work on later versions of MacOS though. Not only would it be very cool to see the DTK itself running Sonoma, but I guess it could also help out people with M1 Macs when they eventually get dropped by Apple.

[@TonyCrenshawsLatte]

This video tickles my Mac-nerd side silly like nothing else. Fantastic video!!

[@paololololol]

This was so cool to watch! Thanks for the cool mashup

[@flysky6248]

Congratulations guys you are awesome with your projects!

[@theDIRECTORscott]

Impressive work as always!😁

[@macintush]

It’s crazy Apple still pretends to be a green company 🤣

[@QWERTYQwertz852]

Every company does that

[@ArtyI]

​@@QWERTYQwertz852but none of the other companies invite ""Mother Nature"" to their HQ to brag about their environmental friendliness to all their loyal customers

[@theglowcloud2215]

"We got a black woman to play Mother Nature! We did everything right!"

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😆

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

apple is easily the greenest after Tesla, easily. no company is green tho, yet. Tesla will be the first, again, easily.

[@jayvqz]

Looks like dosdudes dungeon is cleaned up and organized now 🤙🍻

[@longwelsh]

love that you got the best keyboard out for it.

[@siddharthdixit6495]

DIDN'T KNEW DR SHAUN KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT MAC😂

[@Mark-jt7ww]

😅😂

[@Mark-jt7ww]

😂

[@ranjitmandal1612]

✌️

[@AppleBman]

You've out-geeked yourself again! I love it!

[@95Comics]

COLIN IS AWESOME!

[@adamjg4]

I'm sure Tim Cook and Co. are studying this video very closely.

[@Gonzie6]

Probably easier to give dosdude a job to stop this kind of thing

[@arthurswart4436]

Nice one. Do I understand correctly this DTK is an API between Intel and Apple Silicon? If so, does that mean that much cleverer people than I will be able to engineer an Apple Silicon Hackintosh, using the translation layers in the software provided to these developers?

[@JD-go1nq]

My XSERVE is still in the production environment thanks to Collin. I did have to boost the MXM video board, SAS-3, Dual 10GbE LAG.

[@zaxxon4]

With that many boards, you have enough to reverse engineer them. You'd need to document all parts before removing them, then add epoxy to thicken one side and sand through the board layers to document the traces in each layer. After doing this you could use wire to recreate the circuits destroyed by drilling.

[@rinnin]

Great find & vid! Macs Fan Control App for fans running constantly?

[@echow2001]

Dang I needed all the IO ports in the back for a m1, would've took a few if the drilled ones off your hand as donor parts boards haha

[@danagoyette7932]

I'd love to see screenshots of what System Profiler shows for all the various hardware attributes.

[@iandrewc]

Very much enjoyed @dosdude1 's video on this, neat to see it from another angle!

[@Elnasir]

I love your work mehn. When will I get invited to come visit your lab? This video got me all excited and I feel like I'm there 😂

[@MIDO2802]

DOSDUDE WE LOVE YOU

[@alecbosse6425]

so, would Open Core Legacy work in order to allow this developer kit to run a more updated macOS?

[@simu6244]

I love dos dude’s in depth knowledge

[@kjamison5951]

Tim Cook: “Send them for destruction.” Collin: “I need a new project…”

[@twojstary345]

god i love dosdude

[@joehall7869]

Luke I’m looking to buy a used Apple Mac. Is there any reputable sites to buy from? I’m not computer savvy. Just looking to buy something for my amateur photography. I like watching you fix computers. I have no idea why. Thanks

[@tobiasd5235]

Where did you buy them? I can not find resellers from those destroyed boards

[@kennethmoody9841]

so between 150 board are you going to do a run of 30+ working boards frankensteined ?

[@superhavi]

Were did you guys get the boards from? I can't find those anywhere. I really want one as a wall decoration.

[@SenulaDilasara]

This video is wild. thank you for educating us about macs & other apple products. Can you give away some macs that you repaired?

[@RealGengarTV]

13:32 weeeeeeeeell... I'd love to see you put Ubuntu or some other Linux distro on it to check that claim

[@ALXXR63AMG]

Is it possible to make a dual boot version of it…? Booting in MacOS and iPadOS…how could the develop Apps for iPad without IPadOS on the TDK ?

[@SermedAlWasiti]

@14:54 Its Alive...Alive!!

[@KelzCasa]

The DTK having 16GB of RAM clearly exposes Apple's age old RAM scam.

[@speedbird8326]

Have you tried OCLP on it to upgrade to Sonoma ?

[@pbatacan]

Can you transplant the soc and nand to an ipad so it runs osx? Looking forward to this

[@anthonygrant5305]

Question…, What brand of screen(x2) are you using in the background?..

[@johannorellana4089]

CANT you SERIALIZE the BOARD with the closes spec mac?