"PC Gamers Just Don't Understand the PS5 Pro!!" According to This PlayStation Fanboy

[@JoeFromSeattle]

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[@OanKnight]

No no joe, it's not the PS5 Pro. It's the PS5 Remastered.

[@Kyle-is5tv]

Love your videos mate keep up the good work

[@bobhawkins9598]

Na

[@Sw1ssT0ur3tt3s]

Most entertaining ad of my life (except for kitchen gun)

[@gordonfreeman1163]

@@Sw1ssT0ur3tt3s nothing beats the kitchen gun, unfair

[@RedRabbit-ZA]

Yes I don't understand. I don't understand why people would shill for corporations if they don't get paid to do so.

[@Sw1ssT0ur3tt3s]

literally

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

IKR lol.

[@JcgLounge]

It’s the stupidest thing ever. Shilling for a company and not getting paid for it. You might as well give up one of your kidneys at that point.

[@Null0023]

If there was no logo or color then they probably wouldn’t have

[@OriginsAus-b6r]

These ponies are dumb. They will never learn.

[@chadisnotachad]

He's completely right Joe. I don't understand the PS5 pro. I don't understand why I should pay $700 for mediocrity and every feature being behind a paywall. I'll stick to steam deck and PC

[@spugelo359]

apparently the price goes above 1k dollars in some countries. That is some insane pricing.

[@Whreck11]

Its 1000€ with disk in EU

[@anro_gaming]

More than $1k here not counting the disc drive 😅

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

@@spugelo359 Over $1k in Canada if you include the disc drive and/or stand.

[@oystersoup3434]

I like how the most deranged of PlayStation fanboys don't realize a lot of PC gamers grew up as PlayStation fans. We just got tired of getting scammed in our adulthood (at least, in my situation).

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Scammed? Yeah right Nvidia instead scams people when y'all pay way more than the console on a GPU alone only one component and how are we getting scammed when alot of folks can't afford it buy a good gaming PC for 1000+ and still get stutters because of very bad PC ports that I've experienced myself and yet consoles gamers like myself get a complete and very good experience on a 400-700 console? Thats killer value for the money Idk what y'all are on just know not everyone is middle class or rich and most parents will not buy their child a 1000+ gaming PC let's be honest as supposed a 300-600 console l, which might I add isn't portable at all or for the living room big screen tv with couch play

[@666willis666]

yup you got that right

[@honoredshadow1975]

This.

[@SonicGamerFL]

Same here. Playstation 4 is where I got disillusioned. I was entering the work force proper and I told myself I was going PC next gen. Absolutely no regrets.

[@Perry2186]

maybe the last console i got was the ps2

[@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE]

My pc is in the living room om my 65 inch

[@Trid3nt861]

I dont understand why the PS5 Pro 1. Costs $730.00 after taxes for the base disc-less version. 2. Why the disc drive costs $80.00 plus tax 3. Why online multiplayer is locked behind an $70.00 paywall 4. Why is there just one option in hardware with soldered on chipsets 5. Why is there only 1 video output 6. Why is there limited options 7. Why is there not full backwards compatibility with older generation of game. 8. Why are these individuals cheerleading corporations nicle and diming them every which way?

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Why no ultrawide ?

[@victorvargas9330]

@@Trid3nt861 Why no 8K as previously falsely advertised on the PS5 Lite?

[@TheJohhnyE]

​@victorvargas9330 what do you mean? Thanks to the magic in my ps5's ssd, I play all games at 420fps and in 69k resolution. 😂

[@Whreck11]

Its 1000€ with the disk drive in EU and they still say you cant build a good pc with the cost of it😂

[@COUNTVLAIDMIR]

Why do I have to pay to play online?

[@DeusNyx]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; PC gamers have Henry Cavil. Playstation has ponies. 😂

[@gorillagroddgaming]

I don’t like Henry Cavil, normies worship him just because of his looks. No one would care about him if he were ugly.

[@Chasodey]

​@@gorillagroddgamingJust like nobody cares about ponies because they are ugly right now

[@iLegionaire3755]

@@gorillagroddgaming People like Henry Cavil because he has a likable personality, not just the Superman hunk look. Christopher Reeve was egotistical in comparison.

[@gorillagroddgaming]

@@iLegionaire3755 Personality is cope. People only like him because of his genetics.

[@gorillagroddgaming]

@@Chasodey Idc about ponies either. I just don’t like chad worship.

[@TheL0ngbeard]

Why are all these videos EXACTLY the same? Options scary. Me no understand PC. PC chained to desk. Me no understand money. Me no build lego, lego hard. Me act on impulse. Although when he brought up the multitasking point, I almost fell out of my chair. Monitors not good for multitasking... at least PC can multitask, not much multitasking on the PS. Do a lot of reading, coding or video editing on your PS, do ya? Ok, didn't expect, I am too weak to carry a PC, to be an argument, but here we are.

[@Texo-ul6bg]

How can anybody make a link between monitors and multitasking is beyond being ignorant.

[@EngieMak]

Guess they keep hearing the same actual good points from PC players, and need something to fire back at us. Doesn't mean it's always good though.

[@jeballen4130]

For being a console player I don't understand how people can defend these shitty companies.

[@JRPGgames945]

PS5 pro is a downgrade straight up no Disc drive or stand anyone that defends this is a moron.

[@jackcausey1449]

As console player I will say that this is because they are stupid and don’t realize the reason the biggest threat to console players are the companies that make the consoles

[@Nug223]

At least your one with common sense

[@odinsonthered9226]

I used to have a ps4 pro, and my wife had an Xbox one, both of us were on our 2nd one because our first burned out. We had fun gaming on the couch in the living room on 2 40in tvs. The my ps4 burned out again, so I started looking for sales and used parts. I built a pc, then quickly upgraded and built my wife a pc with the parts, now we have a desk in the room with our 27in monitors and it’s the best gaming experience we’ve ever had. We feel stupid for not switching earlier. We’ll never go back. These console fan boys are just coping. Even when I had a console I was aware pc was superior, I was just brainwashed to think it’s crazy hard to build and unaffordable. My set up is a Ryzen 5700x 6600xt 16gb ram 1tb nvme Steel legend mobo Corsair 650 watt psu. Total cost was under $900, all these parts were just sales. My wife’s was cheaper and she has a 5700xt and that’s the only different part. Hers was $700. It took me over a year to collect parts but absolutely worth it.

[@firexallst4rz277]

That's awesome. Congratulations on switching to PC. I've been gaming on PC for like 6 or 7 years now

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

Great to hear. For any games you don't play together or want to play at the same time make sure to take advantage of Steam Sharing if you aren't already, will save you quite a bit of money.

[@dinar8749]

Congrats!

[@bighousemusic628]

bro i was stuck on consoles prison and the day i get a motherboard setup from my nephew a b series pro mb a amd ryzen 5 3400g and 16gb rams and a 500 watts psu and i download some pirated games and try i was blown away how pc game was and how powerfull the graphics and sound was im astound im now waiting for AMD strix because these APUS rival andy discrete gpu with my ryzen 3400g im playing some games at over 100fps at 4k so yeah i dont understand ps5

[@firexallst4rz277]

@@bighousemusic628 I would say consoles are good for people that just want to turn on something and play

[@DocBrewskie]

I’m 15min in and I’m still waiting to hear why I don’t understand the ps5 pro.

[@TheScruffySkull]

This guy seriously made a "5 reasons why consoles are better than PC" video disguised as an "In defense of the PlayStation 5 Pro" video. He used the same tired talking points as other fanboys have used for ages. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

It's funny when people talk about PCs like they're the same from 20 years ago. I put a PS2 emulator and got tony hawk underground running without downloading anything other than the emulator, the bios, and the game. Things just work so much better these days

[@lunasakara7306]

something something something, "DRIVER UPDATES" Yeah, the things that happen either in the background, wait for me to schedule them, or aren't even needed enough to bother with... something something something, "I don't want to sit at a desk to play games!" Okay, so don't... Why dose every idiot think a PC has to sit on a desk? I have one in my living room instead of cable, so I can just watch whatever, OR play games "not at a desk" something something something, "I just want to turn it on and play games!" my brother in Christ, it's not 1997, you don't have to launch games with the terminal anymore; power on PC, 20 seconds, click game icon, game boots. Playing game in about 1 minuet of boot. Woooowowowow! And on the note of "sitting at a desk" funny enough, my PC chair is a couch sectional, I bought it from the "damaged goods" section of a furniture store for 30$. Super comfortable, and cheap. Anyway, I think that covers the last remaining copes ponies have. Oh and one last thing, for the ponies. Most TVs, especially ones over 40 inches aren't really intended for gaming, and part of the way they cut costs is cutting all the onboard hardware that high quality gaming displays have, our "small" displays are much better for gaming, trust me, and your never going to understand it until you get a PC and a decent display. I really can't put into words how terrible gaming on a TV is, unless it's one of the few that are intended specifically for gaming, but those tend to be smaller, and more expensive, so most people overlook them because "I can get the bigger one for the same price!"

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

@@lunasakara7306 totally agree. Not only do most TVs cap at 60fps, most of them have about a 10 millisecond response time(or higher) which is horrendous for gaming unless you're only playing stardew valley

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@SuperSayinSolidSnek exactly, couch gaming is literally useless for anything other than casual couch co op play. TVs also don't have VRR in most cases which results in horrendous tearing.

[@chrissyboy7047]

​@@lunasakara7306 Its surprising how many tv's now actually have 120hz or more displays. And for a good price. Its almost like manufacturers have realised theres a market for it as a lot of people want to game on a big screen AND with decent settings. Buy any GOOD tv these days and you will get 4k 120. Also a model of tv that has 120hz will most likely have in every model size and not just the smaller screens as you said. The 42 and the 75 inch version will be specced the same in most if not all cases. Gaming can be great on a tv. Just get a good one.

[@Observant_Introvert]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I have my PC hooked up to a 4k 120hz with VRR in my living room. I only play single player games and I didn't go for a PC monitor/desk set up is for a couple of reasons. Half of my work day is at a PC and coming home I don't want to sit at a desk to game and I don't have enough space in my place to have a desk set up for it. I prefer a bigger screen experience anyways. To preface this... TV's have come a long ways in its tech for gaming BUT I know they still can't compete with the tech in the PC monitors. I understand that people that game on a PC monitor cannot go back to gaming on a TV because you guys can tell the difference, I know that if for some reason if I started gaming on a monitor I could easily tell the difference as well. Like coming from console to PC.... gaming from 30fps to 60fps+ . In the PC community I am in the 1% of people that have this type of set up, I am in a small minority here. When I had to replace my tv on a whim (My 6 year old 60hz set died on my all of a sudden) I tried looking for one of those BFGD monitors they had back 7-8 years ago, but I couldn't find any online for sale. I think its for the fact they weren't selling well because the 99% of PC gamers liked a smaller screen size sitting at a desk and they probably stopped producing them. So before the incoming of "you don't know what you're missing" comments come out... I understand and I get it. My set up would be an absolute horrible experience for the vast majority of you guys but I enjoy it and it works "For me".

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

no no hes right. i dont understand the price point. i dont understand the lack of a disc drive or stand thats sold separately. i dont understand as a pc gamer that plays the switch why i should get it

[@DontCallMeScooterrr]

These guys that complain about tweaking settings are the same ones who will sit through hours of digital foundry videos comparing games on PS5 amateur vs. Pro vs Xbox or Quality vs. Performance modes at 6x zoom. But they're not interested in fiddling with settings. Morons

[@AviaKun]

“The PS5 is cheaper than PC” Steam deck: Am I nothing to you!?

[@lego_minifig]

While this is true, I feel this statement is also disingenuous to the point they attempt and fail to make. But yeah, the Steam Deck is awesome. Love playing indie titles on it.

[@dustojnikhummer]

Steam Deck is about as powerful as an Xbox One. Why are you comparing a handheld to a full console?

[@AviaKun]

@@dustojnikhummer the steam deck can play almost all PlayStation 1st party games on steam, and has more backwards compatibility with the ps1,2, and 3 than the ps5 does.

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

@@AviaKun The Xbox Series X and S have similar emulation to the Steam Deck. There's just not PS3 emulation. Not yet at least.

[@leftypistolero5983]

Oof, that Antank sponsorship. You can tell they're a Chinese company because of the badly photoshopped product photos and their name is trying to make them appear as close as possible to Antec, who sell legit power products.

[@LLGTMT]

Console Peasants: - Pays $500 for Day 1 PS5 - Pays $640 for PSPlus Premium over 4 Years - Pays $700 for Day 1 PS5 Pro w/ little to know observable performance increase - Pays $30 for plastic stand - Pays $80 for disc drive - Pays another $320 for PSPlus Premium over the final 2 years of that console generation - Pays $1500 for OLED TV capped at 120hz (which the PS5 Pro can't even utilize in AAA CiNeMaTiC titles) - Total Investment of $3770.00 USD PC Gamer: - Pays $800 for pre-built PC w/comparable performance - Pays $700 for superior 27' OLED Monitor with 240hz and a host of gaming specific features -Total Investment of $1500 w/ $2270 left over to buy games. Yea you're right I don't understand the PS5 Pro, maybe if you drove a railroad spike into my cerebral cortex it would begin to makes sense. Until then I will take my $3800 PC that gets me an ROG Strix RTX 4080 Super OC Edition, Ryzen 7600X 5.5 GHz Boost, 64 GB DDR5 6000mhz CL20 Ram, 2 TB Samsung 990 Pro NVMe M.2 SSD (which is faster than the Western Digital version in the Pro and PS5), 27" ASUS 1440p 240hz OLED rich with gaming driven features/specs and custom loop liquid cooling.

[@clayparker9197]

Holy shit you're a nerd

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

I feel like you might've over-invested in your GPU a bit and not enough in your CPU. I get the sense a 4080 Super would probably get bottlenecked by a Ryzen 5 7600X. Also the Samsung SSDs are generally overpriced and not particularly great performance, the WD SN850X or SK Hynix Platinum P41 are both similar performance to the 990 Pro for less money. The SSD isn't particularly important either, it only really affects boot and load times. Even a WD SN770 would be perfectly sufficient.

[@LLGTMT]

@@100organicfreshmemes5 Nope I've done the testing, the Ryzen 5 7600X isn't even close to maxing out usage in any title I've run including AAA titles like Black Myth Wukong, Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Ghost of Tsushima, Sekiro and the likes. My CPU usage never goes above 65% and my GPU usage is maxed, I could in fact run an RTX 4090 in my system and it would be a dream. People tend to over invest in their CPU for a minimal gain in FPS, when the money would be better spent in a higher end GPU. The only time I would need more CPU power is if I also wanted to stream those titles or have my PC double as a workstation. And also no, the 990 Pro runs faster read and write times than the SN850X (I've done the side by side comparisons) at least in my own rig. Can't speak for the SK Hynix Platinum, but I can tell you that Samsung owns SK Hynix as a parent company, so I'd bank that its the same general performance, since both are coming from the same production facility.

[@zerosam5541]

All Sony does is show PS4 games running on PS5 pro not games made for PS5 like Helldivers or astro bot and people still defend it

[@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT]

PC SUUUUUUUUUUCKS 🛑 ATTENTION🛑 PC LOSES.... ANY YEAR. PC: 0 Great exclusives. Misses out on numerous GOTY winners every year. Windows garage OS Bugs, viruses, crashing. Malware, shovelware, bottlenecking, troubleshooting. No physical games. No first party developers. Horrible online plagued with cheaters hackers and modders. Gimped unoptimized and late 3rd party ports. Garbage / virtually non-existent local multiplayer. Loses best graphics, art, animation, etc to consoles first party games yearly. Gigantic, loud, energy consuming towers. Hunched over desk and chair gaming on a small screen. But yeah... Go ahead and name 1 single great pc exclusive. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Vs Consoles: Numerous great exclusive games. First party titles. Physical or digital games. 2nd party exclusives. Optimized games. Exclusive games that win Best Graphics, art, animation every year. Superior online services. Ease of use. Small, quiet, energy conserving. No bugs, viruses, malware, shovelware. Blu-ray Portability. Constant innovation from d-pad, to analog, to motion controls to Dualsense. If you're gaming on a PC it's because: A. You are a child and your parents control what you play and what you play on. B. You're a foreigner (not from the USA) and hate games based on American or Western culture. C. You are poor and can't afford a luxury item like a console. D. You are on the spectrum and enjoy repetitive point and click games. E. All of the above. 😂😂 Oh, and you want to talk about visuals? Best looking games by year: 2023- Spider-Man 2 (Not on PC), Alan Wake 2. 2022- God of War Ragnorok (not on PC), Horizon Forbidden West (Not on PC), Eldin Ring. 2021- Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (Not on PC). 2020- The Last of Us Part II ( Not on PC), Dreams (Not on PC). 2019- Death Standing (Not on PC), Control. 2018- God of War (Not on PC), Red Dead Redemption 2 (Not on PC). 2017- Horizon Zero Dawn (Not on PC). 2016- Uncharted 4 (Not on PC). Should I go on? 😂😂😂😂 PC kiddies. Before replying make sure you're not checking that E. box on the list and only proving my point. 😆😆😆

[@LuisRivera0506]

This was painful to watch

[@fenixblade6369]

True 🤦 wow just wow

[@Yourghostuncle]

PC gaming on a laptop ruined the PS4 and PS5 for me and I simply cannot go back

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

So the other day a console gamer still doesn't understand he's playing on a closed platform PC

[@Raptor1867]

This guy: I don't want to play my games on a small PC monitor Me: Over here playing PC games on my 50 inch TV.

[@henryj5054]

The best thing is the performance tests that have just come out. Things like Ratchet and Clank running at the same FPS as the base model... 40FPS

[@dinar8749]

No way fr?

[@firexallst4rz277]

Yes look it up

[@chrissyboy7047]

The pro does nothing for the fps. Just tarts up the graphics a little. Lol

[@BungieStudios]

The bottleneck of the PS5 is its CPU, causing low framerates. The PS5 Pro only upgrades the GPU. Also, some games might be frame limited for stable performance.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@BungieStudios Same reason why I skipped the Switch OLED. Everything is the same except for the screen; plus, I game on TV anyways.

[@HyJyncks]

He didn't make a single point about the PS5 Pro. Just having a PS5. Then proceeded to make the same 5 points every single video makes.

[@Official_RetroMania]

The ignorant console fans once again spreading blasphemy and ignorance while claiming truth and certainty.

[@dh8203]

Yeah, most of them have figured out the part about not going into any detail because it shows off how little they actually know, but this fresh faced noob actually tried to talk about the specifics of PCs like he knows anything..... thermal paste, it's sooo hard!!! LOL!

[@victorvargas9330]

@@Official_RetroMania They almost sound like the poltical leftroids

[@aleksp8768]

15:26 *laughs in Steam Deck OLED*

[@lego_minifig]

To be fair, if you are running on weaker hardware, it is nice to see what settings have the most impact from outside sources. I dont have the time to see which settings hurt the frame rate the most and which settings barely have an impact so they are worth leaving high. I have done so plenty of times on my Steam Deck. That being said, it’s still just something you have to set once then you can forget it.

[@interrobangings]

5:45 if it's a slightly popular game (and even then) there are tweak guides out there to literally spell out what settings to use and it's super weird he's presenting having options as a BAD thing. "oh no anyone from an RX 580 to an RTX 4090 can tweak the game to run well on their system!!!!”

[@Sizzlik]

Android users simply dont understand Apple. Indeed..some people dont understand how paying 5x the price for something that gets less and less features with each version and get locked in an ecosystem of one big company. Some people like freedom with their hardware, others like to eat what they get.

[@selfhelp9685]

The argument that you can't lay down and relax while on pc is hilarious. I literally have my pc set up on a table next to my bed and I'm using a controller. Lol

[@maciejsidor5471]

Dunno why but the 'Joe from JoeFromSeattle here' got me lmao

[@Semi_Colin]

Same

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Wassup Guys Joe from Joe from Seattle living in Seattle here.

[@beaconofdarkness98]

29:28 Another thing about portability is that if you use a Mini ITX PC, which is much smaller than a regular desktop, it's even easier to carry around. You can even build a Mini ITX system at the size of a console, if not slightly smaller than a PS5 or Xbox Series X. Does the PC also fit in a bag? That's even better. This guy is dumb.

[@momocblack]

I just do steamlink, got everything wired anyway

[@beaconofdarkness98]

@@momocblack Also a good solution.

[@aleksp8768]

22:00 I just got my new pc about 2 months ago for €755 (tax, shipping, everything) Intel Core i5 12400F RTX 4060 8 GB 16 GB RAM 512 GB Storage I have a *feeling* it outperforms the ps5 pro...

[@gorillagroddgaming]

4060 is crap

[@signe_stilett]

Nice build, dude! May it serve you well

[@iLegionaire3755]

You need a 7900XT for this build, that will smoke PS5 Pro.

[@el_androi1203]

4060 isn't gonna outperform the ps5 pro but for that price you could have bought something like an rx6800 which would theoretically be on par with it.

[@bighousemusic628]

@@iLegionaire3755 you mean a 7800x 3d that will stomp on the ps5

[@barnabassimon9531]

I cannot understand the Windows price talking point. It's free. Even if you buy a key it's about 5 dollars.

[@Katie-hb8iq]

I can't even remember the last time i "messed with video drivers". Like is it really so hard to update them whenever it bugs you every few weeks? Every game I launch, all I need to do is set the resolution, turn vsync on or off depending on whether I see screen tearing or not, and turn the graphics to ultra or whatever and then I'm done. It's not difficult, and it surely isn't unlearnable or contributes to that much added time compared to a console. Hell, you're more likely to save more time going through Steam's store over the Playstation Store than you are to mess with graphics options. The "Can it run it argument" is the best ever because there are literally games that release on the PS5 that don't run well.

[@iconoclast485]

LMAO Pc gamers don't understand the AMD APU that is just a lower powered PC in a SFF form factor with a custom OS and a SONY label slapped on it.

[@blankadams3120]

"As far as lugging one across the country, if I wanted to bring it on vacation with me..." Why the hell would you want to do that? Can't live without your PlayStation for a week? The point of VACATION is to get away from all the stuff and reset. Even thinking about bringing a game system along on vacation is madness! "These are just my opinions, man" Yeah, no, you think they're truth. You are presenting your opinions as facts, and trying to hand wave away being wrong as 'my opinion'. No. Piss off. "Muh achievements!" Wow, yeah, swing that e-peen around... that totally proves your point.

[@Dajudge06]

Playstation gamers just dont understand that, 700 AT MINUMUM YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN PC, THERE IS NO EXCUSE ANYMORE. But if you pause the game and zoom in, you can tell the difference, TOTALLY worth that 700 xD I did build a pc for a friend for around 700, no used parts, all amazon.

[@bobhawkins9598]

@@Dajudge06 wrong it can't be done unless your broke and use secondhand moldy dusty parts are cut corners like every KZbin video has done, and even then it's still cheaper to buy the pro

[@Izzy-xx3ev]

@@bobhawkins9598 yeah you dont know what youre on about

[@jdproductions6147]

@@bobhawkins9598 Pft someone sounds salty or is trying to defend their piece of plastic like some basement dweller. Why would I spend $700 BEFORE TAX, on something that *Just* plays games, vs a system you can Game, Mod, Edit video, create game assets etc Glad to see you rather get LESS value for money, I am sure you rather keep giving sony almost a $100 a year to access your own Internet on the console vs PC where you don't need to. So in short you are paying $700 + PSN + Diskdrive + Stand Which is $960 before tax.. so nearly a GRAND : ) so its no longer "Cheaper"

[@bobhawkins9598]

@@jdproductions6147 I don't give a toss what you do Muppet

[@bobhawkins9598]

@@Izzy-xx3ev I know exactly what I'm talking about unfortunately you dont

[@ironaikau8236]

41 minutes? must've been an inspirational video.

[@ironaikau8236]

The hell are those patches? Stephen King, Walter White, Cloud, a damn QR code? what a rebel.

[@havanowoncheese]

He is using thermal paste as part of his argument. I have not heard that one in a while.

[@liljai201]

Joe I lost working brain cells listening to this guy not even alcohol can fix this

[@Semi_Colin]

Based

[@phantomthunder203]

"When it came out PC there were problems I didn't have any problems [with the extremely terrible performance bc I have no standards so I'll make fun of the people with standards.]"

[@MrBig200]

"I tried playing V rising on Steam Deck.... didn't work" doesn't explain how a game that is listed as playable on Deck "didn't work"..... well okay then... lmao

[@RuneRaged]

I literally have my pc hooked up to my TV and play from my couch "Oh but blah blah blah" Huh? Like it's easy.. just plug it in and there ya go

[@KOBULT92]

Years of console fans with these same shitty arguments. Legit the EXACT same shitty arguments. Its never been about convincing people, it's about justifying it to themsleves.

[@Yvans_place]

The fanboys simply do not realize that they will pay a lot of money for this mid-gen console and will pay even more for the new generation within about three years. And then they declare that PC gaming is expensive?

[@hitnfgsbluntd1194]

You can hook a TV up to your PC & have it anywhere a home console can be (i.e. bedroom, living room, kitchen (I have a wall mounted 32in by my dining table cause I like to watch TV as I eat), etc.). I have a 24in LED monitor as my primary & a 40in Smart TV as my secondary monitor. *Dun Dun Dun* It's as if the PC also has HDMI ports too, just like consolesI swear they are just trying to justify their purchase by putting down everyone else to make it seem like everyone is stupid for not wanting to buy the PS5 Pro. Buy it or not but game where you want too, it makes no difference to me.

[@jakedizzle]

I wish Steam would make a console the way they made the Steam Deck. It would put the fear of God into Sony to do better.

[@Semi_Colin]

For $600 you can get a r5 5500 and rx 6600 with a 1080p ips 180 hz monitor with the ability to upgrade later all the way to a 5800x3d and 3090 or even HIGHER. Am4 is awesome!!!

[@gorillagroddgaming]

AM4 is dead

[@Kostas_epic_gamer]

Can we all agree that ps5 is one of the MOST WORTHLESS and MOST STUPID THINGS EVER CREATED?!

[@TheJohhnyE]

But.. but... how else can I play my favorite remakes and re re remasters?

[@Kostas_epic_gamer]

@TheJohhnyE Oh right sorry l forgot... Ps5 is da best then ...🤣🤣 After ps5 pro they should release ps5 pro remastered.

[@ronniecantiga5629]

PRO stands for Play Remastered Only 😂😂

[@Zminator1986]

I wonder if these PS shills will continue backing up their corporate masters if the PS6 is priced around $900-1000 for the higher end model?

[@JoeNerdShow]

they will

[@SeriouslyTechStuff]

Disney's Robin Hood is the BEST RH. Costner knows it. It keeps him up at night. He drinks too much and cries about how he could not reach that level of Hoodness.

[@daiogans439]

These console fanboy videos/articles all have THE EXACT SAME points. Every. Single. One. And they're always bullshit. Every. Single. Time.

[@theboy2777]

Having a conversation with console gamers is the equivalent as being a customer service representative talking to an elderly person over the phone.

[@_Just_John]

I played Breath of the Wild on my PC hooked up to a massive TV, using Xbox controller. That is freedom.

[@jackofalltrades417]

14:50 I connect my PC to my living room TV nearly every night. I can't believe console fan boys are STILL unaware of this.

[@Dregomz02]

I understand everything about PS5 pro. It's a scam barely any GPU upgrade (30-40% higher perf boost at best) with the same mediocre CPU but slightly over locked by 350mhz. All previous upgrades gave you double the performance whole this pos can't even reach half of that its a joke and a very expensive joke at that.

[@CNTconnoisseur]

I've had my PC for 7 years as well. The whole time, it's been in my livingroom connected to my TV. This whole time, I was using the free version of Windows 10. Just the other week, I saw a sponsorship for a key site and bought Windows for 20 bucks.

[@enkiduthewildman]

He's not wrong. I _don't_ understand the PS5 Pro. Under $500... maybe. But $700+ no way. That just doesn't make sense.

[@mr.curtis6730]

For the price of a new ps5 pro a diskdrive and 1 year of esentials you can easily aford a good gaming pc and some games

[@Katie-hb8iq]

If I'm spending 1500-1800 dollars on a new PC, I genuinely don't mind spending another few hundred bucks to have them put it together. They are going to do a much better job with the cables than I would, and if they happen to break something, it's on them and not me. Also, I make good money at my job, and I don't have the time to waste on a Saturday to do it myself when I can just turn it on and install steam. For me, when I spend 1800 dollars on a PC, I know it's going to give me really good performance for 7-8 years. A console will only promise you this for about 2 years, and then it will be out of date. Then you need to buy the next console... and the next console... and the next console. And when you have your PS6, you will probably have spent more money than me on the actual hardware then I did when you bought your PS5. And odds are pretty good my 1800 dollar PC will still be better than your PS6. I also, I can't stress enough the productivity benefits you get with a PC. If you're programming or doing anything productive on it that makes you money, then it basically just pays for itself anyway.

[@elwen8525]

You know that they usually put the system requirements at the bottom of the steam page right? And you can return it with in 2 hours or game play if it doesn’t run that well

[@TheJohhnyE]

It's true. I haven't seen a single pc player factor in the magic in the ps5's ssd when talking about the ps5 pro. We all know they're going to put even more magic in the pro's ssd this time around. There's no way it will be a marginal upgrade to the base ps5. It will totally be different from when we got scammed with the ps4 pro and Xbox one x. I mean, it costs almost twice what the ps4 pro costed, so it must be the literal fourth coming of christ (the ps4 being the second and the ps5 being the third). 😂

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Remote download has been a thing on PC for almost 20 years if not more, already

[@OzzyFan80]

I hate these Ponies that are claiming that the pro is the best place to play even over PC. Yeah, for a console gamer it may be a nice addition, but consoles can't hold a candle to PC gaming. I have done both for decades and these console gamers that have never gamed on a PC have no right to give any opinion on PC gaming.

[@WyvrnOnYT]

I have to say my computer has some insanely weird performance issues so I can kinda get what people mean when they want to be sure it runs on their system. Not saying I agree with them or anything, but I've had some strange issues with my $1,500 machine. My computer is a 3060 gpu with 12th gen intel Cpu, and still has weird issues with half of my steam library. I actually got a steam deck to cope with it in fact.

[@supermugiboy]

29:33 My dog does this thing where he can never walk normally out of out living room, he has to walk backwards like he's keeping an eye on something.

[@lego_minifig]

18:40 text clarity? Really? I just treated myself to a 4k 32in QD-OLED panel and it is a beast for multitasking and the colors are near perfect for creative workloads. You do not notice any fringing at all unless you are pixel peeping way too close to the display or with a macro lens. It is a complete non issue. 22:50 This is less applicable than your example, but I snagged an old pre-built i7-7800 system with 64GB of RAM and a GTX 1080 for under $300 a few months ago for an Unraid system I was building. Thats less than a Switch and still very capable machine. Swap out the GPU and PSU and you could easily destroy a PS5 for cheaper. I got a used 1000W Gold Corsair PSU missing a single cable for $40 to power my 10HDDs. Flip the 1080 and you would have $100 more funds to work with. After storage, you have $400 to work with to get a better GPU. Toss in an RX6800 and you are set. 27:50 and if you don’t want to deal with building a PC then there are plenty of nerds that will gladly do it for free. Many enthusiasts love to build systems but don’t have the funds or a reason to keep building systems. Asking for help is like giving away tickets to an amusement park. All the fun without the financial strain. Not to mention we are quite friendly. Some random kid at my college campus was blindly asking people if they could help him build his PC because he was having trouble getting his to boot. I am an introvert, yet I still immediately jumped at the opportunity to play with some new hardware I haven’t built with before. My boy screwed his mobo directly to the case (no stand offs) and had some cables loose. I had him set and on his way in about an hour. That was about 5 years ago. Never saw him again.

[@ErenJaegerT9]

29:52 My PC is 10 KG and if you have Fishtank case with RTX4080 with Aio liquid cooler than your PC is almost 20KG in terms of weight. 10kg is heavy though.

[@bigjon8744]

I’ve heard so many shit takes about this Ps5 Pro . I’ve heard ppl say “you need at least a $2,000 PC to beat it” and “if u don’t have a 4090 you can’t even compete with a Pro” . Even one idiot was coping about consoles only hitting 60fps and said “the human eye can’t even see above 60fps” 😭 it’s pretty funny how bad of these statements are

[@bighousemusic628]

ha ha ha even these new ryzen APU a motherboard 16gb rams and a psu sink the ps5 to the bottom of the ocean bro ps5 max fps is 30fps with thse apu in some games im way above 100fps so yeah i dont understand a console with a ryzen apu that is a low profile pc that cant even match a mini pc

[@roguespartan2854]

Ponies are paying $700 for a digital only console without a stand. And then they have to pay separately for a disc drive, paywalled backwards compatibility, paywalled online MP, and paywalled cloud saves, and they're all inferior to the alternatives. That's already $900+ for the PC equivalent only for 1 year (not counting regular future payments) but somehow that's a flex. But consoles were the "cheaper simpler option," right?

[@EisOfSpades7]

As someone who was stupidly trying to squeeze 4k cyberpunk performance out of a gtx 1080, I’ve regrettably read forums about trying to find the best settings a while back. I’ve since learned a bit more about pc gaming

[@DeusMachina_EXE]

The funny thing is, on Linux as well, ALL the drivers, even Nvidia divers, update automatically. Once you pick them up for the first time.

[@adrian_veidt]

I don't understand why would I pay huge money for shitty deal in ps5 pro.

[@blackstar-genX]

Built my own first PC late last year. The one mistake I made was that I forgot the CPU power in😂. It's not that hard if you're willing to learn. And KZbin videos.

[@_Just_John]

I don't know how common is it in US, but in EU any major PC hardware retailer will build the PC for you for free as long as all parts are purchased from them. I got these offers while shopping for PC parts in Poland and Czechia. I declined because I prefer to build it myself.

[@tinny2450]

As a guy who bought the PS4 then upgraded to the PS4 Pro i didn't notice any different between the two and it won't be any different between the PS5/PS5 Pro.... Then i got a PC back in 2016 my mind was blowen away the differences was night and day.

[@dragongamerx12]

drivers aren't that hard to install and when you buy a new game you use the app to optimize the game

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Lmao imagine claiming you understand hardware better than PC gamers 🤡

[@AlbedoAtoned]

Every point this guy made was either flat out wrong, a lie, or inconsequential. For instance he mentioned Rising V not working on the Steam Deck, but on protondb it is rated gold and Steam itself rates it "playable". Then there's the whole trophy thing. I would wager the real reason he pushes for "Piss 5 Pro" comes down mostly to him being a consoomer. For instance he mentions trophies. Now most people would probably recognize that achievements on PC and trophies on PSN are basically the same thing. A quick google even shows there are websites designed to consolidate the trophy and achievements from multiple platforms such as metagamerscore. What's more is that since Steam has MORE games than PSN, and there are services designed to add achievements to retro games as well, if it was truly about the dopamine hit, that he would have no problem migrating to PC. But for somebody like him, it's not the dopamine hit from playing the games or achieving something in them, but rather the consooomer's dopamine hit from feeling like you supported a certain brand. Then there's the part where he talks about wanting the best of the best This is something I've seen from some consoomers who find themselves unable to be satisfied with something that isn't the best that money can buy. Guys like him are perfectly able to spend 700 bucks for a subpar experience because they feel that there's nothing better, but if they had a 700 dollar PC they think they are getting a bad experience because they are lying to themselves when they say they need something more powerful. That's not the PC's fault, it's a personal issue that a grown adult shouldn't have. I don't know why one would settle for an obectively worse experience just because the alternative might not be the best money can buy, but cosoomers got to consoom I guess. Lastly, I just want to laugh at some of his points. Thermal Paste? Really? Does he not realize that you don't have to be perfect when applying thermal paste? He probably does, and just pulled that out of his ass for his point. Typically the worst that can happen if you apply too much thermal paste is you make a bit of a mess on the CPU. if that is a concern, just get non-electrically conductive thermal paste. And then the point about the PS Portal. I laughed pretty hard at that one because he wants to shill a 700 dollar console by also shilling a 200 dollar controller with screen that only streams games. Why one would prefer that lagfest over just playing games natively with a Steam Deck or ROG ally is beyond me. He really isn't beating the allegations of being a Consoomer. You don't even need a Portal for that, even your phone could stream games.

[@AlbedoAtoned]

Also, that deal you showed in your video is quite good even without the 20% discount. 500 for a PC that could go toe to toe or potentially beat the PS5 Pro is a crazy deal, and if you could get it for 400 then it's even better. The PS5 Pro lacking a disc drive makes it an even worse comparison. I figure there is probably some drawback that makes it not as good as it sounds on paper, but I have seen quite a few builds that show the PS5 Pro is pretty bad value wise regardless of how good that prebuilt actually is.

[@kainable8769]

The only threads I worry about is about how many ththreads are being used on my thread ripper

[@JaredScott]

yeah im gonna push back on adjusting the games for PC not being a big deal. About half of the many games I have on PC take more than a moment to adjust. If I'm going back and forth between my Monitor and TV I have to adjust the settings each time, and it's always a bigger pain for the TV. I have 5 other consoles and with exception to horror games this is not an issue. Over time it only becomes more annoying especially if it's a game that crashes unless you have the exact settings because it's a mediocre port (more common than it should be). Also saying "I'm perfectly find doing X this way" doesn't matter. I've got friends who are fine playing older games on a modern TV, and I'm not so I use a CRT. Neither of us are wrong.

[@ColpoRosso]

Who TF messes around with video drivers in 2024. Maybe he thinks we are looking to configure the IRQ on the audio card to have sound too.

[@SusiFer667]

11:29 Oh yeah. Architechture, which was originally PC architecture. And which was just downgraded to fit the console price range. The game makers must be having a lot of trouble to make the game compatible with the PC.

[@Joshda039]

Can you match the ps5 pro without used parts? because those used parts won't always be avaliable

[@jimmychops]

I’m surprised after all this time people still think that drivers are such an issue, or that you can’t plug your PC into a TV, etc. It’s almost as if people try and overcomplicate the PC to use in a debate versus console, but are simultaneously being ill informed about it.

[@hercufles]

I have 2 cables in my pc, one hooked to my tv and one to my monitor, if i want to play on my television i just turn off my monitor and turn on my tv, and it automaticly scales to my 4k television, and i dont even have much knowledge with pc's, and new games automaticly change the setting on my configuration, it is sad people in 2024 still think this way.

[@Kastle97]

I have an opposite feeling for the couch vs chair. Like I get bored at the TV.

[@SusiFer667]

15:30 Trust me. I know what I'm missing. And what I'm missing is a screen below 165 Hz, which is completely unplayable for me at this point.

[@vinc5318]

Come on, can people stop putting out an argument to defend console gaming purely based on his personal's preference. I'm actually more of a console gamer because I grow up playing home console, but I know there are con that I need to accept.

[@_Just_John]

30:13 - Steam Remote Play is the answer. I can play wherever I want any game while my PC home runs it on any device. Phone, tablet, crappy office laptop... As long as the connection is good the relay is surprisingly small. That is how I play games at work on a ThinkPad laptop. For FREE.

[@Itsfinebuddy]

I visited that "can you run it" website and it told me I won't be able to run og modern warfare on my laptop. But I was able to. That website checks if you fullfill recommended system requirements not minimum.

[@chrissyboy7047]

How is it that console players all use the same stupid reasons why consoles are better than PC? Do they not watch any other videos? The playing at a desk instead of couch thing for example makes me laugh every time. Shows how little they actually know about PC's and what you can do. Its so obvious.

[@TheJohhnyE]

Right? They don't even mention the magic in the ssd anymore.. 😂

[@rebornscannon2789]

Soooooo the ponie just straight up lied saying V Rising doesnt work on the deck when I've been playing it on there basically a year before it got verified.

[@stopthatgirl7]

The way I was rolling my eyes about him saying you can’t game on a PC while sitting on your couch with a big TV screen, as I was literally PC gaming while sitting on my couch, using my big TV.

[@phantomthunder203]

Can the Portal turn on the ps5 remotely? If it could then that's more than my Steam app can do from my phone. But otherwise if it's on I can stream and control the game from my phone.

[@_Just_John]

Ordering PC parts, ordering some good food, open a couple of beers, putting the PC together... I did that with so many friends and it is such a good way to spend an afternoon.

[@iconoclast485]

Dialing in settings? Most games auto detect your hardware and set you around where you need to be for a smooth experience.

[@Hmanpc]

@JoeFromSeattle I noticed that the audio quality of the video sounds off

[@TomboyCinder]

Was a console girl my whole childhood so was scared I couldn't learn how to transition to pc or a hand-held. Ended up doing research on the steamdeck and decided it was a affordable option into pc gaming. Honestly it's been such a joy to use and it's fun figuring out what graphic settings work depending if I play it on the built in screen or a tv. Really realizing how "watered down" the gaming experience actually is on console.

[@polmoro]

Thanks for the laughs Joe. Holy moly, this guy is clueless. I didn’t have anxiety like this dude, until he explained how he sees things