PC Gaming is Too Expensive So I Bought a MacBook Pro and 2 Consoles…

[@Trid3nt861]

"I left PC gaming and purchased a overpriced laptop with dated specs from a corporation that holds my hand along with 2 plastic boxes that have paywalls and also holds my hand"

[@calibula95]

bro couldn't live as an adult anymore, so he paid for corpos to hold his hands again. LMAO.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@calibula95 That’s not really a burn,As a crap tone of people love consoles and only like consoles even as adults…PCs are for workers and Enthusiasts,Apple especially if you work and do animations*

[@rebornscannon2789]

@@Jza-GZa40k Ya know I use to be a console only player and got into pc gaming about 6 years ago myself (32 here) and while I'll never diss people who prefer consoles saying that PCs are ONLY for workers and enthusiasts makes you sound like an ignorant fuck just like all the other console fan boys. PCs aren't hard to get into or overly complicated yes they take more effort than a console traditionally but that's cause you can do MORE and keep them for longer than ANY console period. Apple products are probably ONLY good as workstations and nothing more and that STILL doesn't excuse the dated hardware and lack of upgradability or the lack of right to repair on an apple product PERIOD.

[@evilbabai7083]

​@@Jza-GZa40kwrong. PC are for people who can understand what value is issued of what is imposed to be. It doesn't take a genius to build a PC, let alone to purchase a pre-built or a laptop. Adults tend to buy consoles because they has an outdated ideas that playing on consoles is more cheap, straightforward and comfortable than PC, that you will own your games, they will be released in a finished state and have no visuals or performance issues, that there will be unique and innovative gameplay - that was mostly the case before PS3 era, but since then PC as a gaming platform has drastically improved upon most of those regards, while consoles stagnated and degraded, losing almost every advantage they had - PC made a few confident steps forward, while home consoles made a triple-back somersault, ending up behind. Now consoles are all about marketing, milking the customers and habituating those into entertainment they must enjoy instead of what that actually want. The only major exceptions that could provide anything that could be unironically called a "console experience" would be Nintendo Switch (sort of - only in comparison) and... Steamdeck... Which is a PC.

[@spikefishnetwork1118]

​@@Jza-GZa40klooks like it's time for someone to take a nap.

[@GhostlyTheRabbit]

“Why I quit PC gaming and Switch to MacBook Pro” dude is the reason why The Education System has an F-

[@gorillagroddgaming]

Mac is good for gaming 👍

[@chrism8860]

@gorillagroddgaming Sure...

[@spiderz5898]

​@gorillagroddgamingno it's not.

[@buecomet831]

​@gorillagroddgaming said no one ever, not a single person that ik plays on a MacBook Pro buddy.

[@TheRealRuddRants]

@gorillagroddgaming not with the power VR in the 2020s. Might as well call it the powerless VR.

[@jonmultimedia]

PC is too much for their peanut brains to handle. PC upgrades, driver updates, game settings. "AWWW TOO MUCH, TAKE IT AWAY!!!!"

[@slamshift6927]

To be fair Windows update fucked up my audio drivers, took a whole day to unfuck it

[@jonmultimedia]

@@slamshift6927 oh yeh things happens for sure. But for example on my ps4..the OS died, completely corrupted. Lost my saves etc, and had to reinstall. Issues happen everywhere, but they say it like consoles don't have them xD and any hardware issue guess what? send for replacement or repairs unless it's a hdd/ssd 🤣

[@traestephen7276]

Mfs act like consoles don't do driver updates. Also you only need to ever update like. Once every fucking year

[@BaroqueSphinx]

1:59 "I like my life away from my gaming pc." My gaming pc has been abusive to me, so I had to get away from it.

[@derrickjohnson4952]

If anything it’s becoming more accessible to consumers. I mean it’s not as powerful as a PS5 but for 400 bucks you can have a steamdeck and boom you’ve got a hybrid handheld pc. Cheaper and more games, emulation ect,

[@gorillagroddgaming]

Steam deck is crap. It’s bad for the same reason a ps5 is bad. Games run at sub 1080p, sub 60 fps. You can only really play the latest indie slop on it. Just get an actual pc.

[@durshurrikun150]

@gorillagroddgaming It is a PC

[@MrPonpokono]

​@gorillagroddgaming but mac is good for gaming? That's massive cap lmao

[@gorillagroddgaming]

@@durshurrikun150 I said an actual PC, not an underpowered handheld piece of crap.

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

​@gorillagroddgaming You say "indie slop" like the average AAA game is actually remotely good, let alone better. 😂

[@qb3540]

Id rather by a 5090 from Scamvidia before I touch anything Apple.

[@C0ZYL4ZY]

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[@dxdxdxdxdxd7125]

it would probably cost less that anything able to perform from Apple too

[@hfnavi132]

@qb3540 I completely agree If and when I have a kid I would rather have my kid be gay, contract aids and furthermore have intel blow up my computer and house before I let him or anyone enter my house with anything Apple related.🤣

[@schikey2076]

the only thing i'll buy from Apple is their second hand stuff... lol

[@tobyzilla]

​@@schikey2076 same with me in regards to Nintendo if I decide to get the switch 2 I'm getting it 2nd hand because screw Nintendo I'm not giving them any of my money

[@matthewhardwick8208]

Ah yes Apple. That well known gaming company?

[@Prodzick]

Well to be fair they are quite significant in mobile gaming.

[@videonut1988]

If you got the newer MacIntoshes with the M series chips, you'd probably game the same way like on Windows...

[@AlexZaglushaka]

So instead of having one powerful unified platform for all the stuff he decided to buy 3 mediocre vendor locked devices from 3 greediest corporations😂😂😂 Genius 😊

[@qu1253]

I remember a while back watching a short from Pirate Software about why he doesn't do Mac ports anymore. You basically have to pay yearly to access a user base that's tiny even compared to Linux gamers. Also, Vanquish didn't get a PC port until like 2018 so I call BS.

[@mylittledarkworldjohn4289]

PC gaming is to expensive. So i bought a overpriced pc that cant nearly play anything and two consoles.

[@svenmanning]

Throw the heretic into space

[@MrPonpokono]

Ah, yeah PC gamins is sooo expensive that buying a macbook is a cheaper option🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I don't wanna hear people complain about PC gaming when they buy macbooks.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Also they are completely different uses 😂

[@Blast1314]

THEEE OTHERRRR DAYYYYY

[@Casual.Gamer_0000]

the mouse pads are a good idea, but my issue is that most printed mouse pads will degrade incredible fast... like 2-3 year, and it already starts disintegrating...

[@corey2232]

"PC Gaming is too expensive, but also PC gamers are broke & don't buy games!"

[@The9thOne9]

I mean, I don't expect anything from shortsighted fanatics, but they still manage to find ways to impress me with their mental gymnastics.

[@slashinghades7347]

My favorite is how they'll complain about the price of PC but then buy every PS4/PS5 collectors edition.

[@Idkwhattoput-p2s]

PC gamers buy too many games.

[@Winnie-blues]

Man I got into PC gaming in 2016 can't remember the specs but I had a 1060 and man that thing impressed the hell out of me. What a time to be alive.

[@RedRabbit-ZA]

I would never give up modding for anything. Going back to console is unthinkable for me.

[@tobyzilla]

Tbh you can play with mods on console but unlike pc whare you can just download the mod and rather install the games respective mod loader use the games bult in mod loader or put the modded files in the games respective folders while on console it's more involved you have to hack your console and install homebrew software and so on and for some consoles it's not vary hard while other consoles are really hard and others are straight up unhackable

[@BladeRunner031]

@@tobyzilla .,!?

[@tobyzilla]

@@BladeRunner031 yes I'm not lieing

[@messigno427]

Thanks, Kev!

[@Wesmoen]

Oh no, it's Kevin. Thanks Kevin!

[@awkwardGardener]

I love when people try to use bugginess and crashing as points against PC. Gamer's literally never played a Bethesda game on consoles. Skyrim is far less stable on 360 than PC, and that's without modding.

[@MaximumRD]

I hate A.I. narration like that so much I won't watch videos that use it even if I am interested in the content, I will find the info elsewhere. Of course a video like yours that tears it apart, I totally support.

[@Sintrania]

My GF mic also vibrate and it's pink!.

[@TremelJackson]

I know what mic you're talking about I got the same one 😂

[@Ghostsoldier2112]

Who's gonna tell the AI voice that I 100% Ratchet and Clank on pc with an Xbox controller?

[@qb3540]

I thought it was 10min before u can add ads

[@fffrrraannkk]

youtube puts ads wherever they want now, even on unmonitized channels. i have no idea whether or not this channel is monitized...just saying youtube will slap ads all over the place.

[@deiradinn]

Quick Resume can hold five games that you can instantly swap between, even if you unplug the console. It's pretty damn awesome. This guy choosing that over a PC still seems weak.

[@yuseiyamoto]

14:25 he donst even have to install any gog launcher, i think you can still download an offline setup of your game directly from the website

[@Mortiel]

Yeah, thanks Kev for letting me steal your kills in ME3MP for over a decade. I suppose the video is funny too.

[@buecomet831]

I swear no one talks about a MacBook Pro for gaming in my life until now....

[@marauder1085]

0:42 thanks kev

[@nelsonsham2368]

Well, the guy proclaim his braincells are dead in the internet...

[@jabur81]

19:15 Rikki-Tikki-Tavi is a short story about a mongoose

[@patrickhewitt7899]

Lol, you started pc gaming in 2017. Well, my first true pc gaming rig I built in 1998. I've played computer games since Apple lle.

[@ReFugeRetroOfficial]

you gotta try the dual sense controller, it really is great on games that support it. the rebuttal i would’ve used is that games on pc support it any way, so it still doesn’t matter 🤣

[@AaronWOfficial]

I already tried the dual sense. Got stick drift after 6 months of use, so I returned it and got an 8bit do. Idc about adaptive triggers or haptic feedback, I just want a controller that works. Picked myself up an 8bitdo for a fraction of the price a dualsense cost, and never have to worry about stick drift again the controller just works.

[@ReFugeRetroOfficial]

@ to each their own. you don’t gotta convince me, i’m not a fanboy lol

[@Skillbones20]

AI Voiceover: The PS5 DualSense Controller Has Been A Gamechanger *Meanwhile Shows 2 DualShock Controllers* 12:25

[@Patrick-bn5rp]

I've used the dualsense. It's awful, imo. Buttons and dpad are stiff and have too much travel. I far prefer my 8bit do remotes.

[@tchomsdaguy]

thx kev

[@ToastyMann]

12:31 Personally, I love the DualSense. I think its features are really cool, but to say it’s a “game changer” when the feature with the most actual impact on gameplay is gyro controls is just laughable. That feature is on several other controllers and while the other features of the DualSense are cool, they’re not this insane feat that people hype up like games would be unplayable without it.

[@smittysmiff9318]

Thanks Kev!

[@NatureRosa]

Thanks, Kev!!!

[@AlejandroMartinez-fw3gt]

Thanks Kev for this great video

[@fffrrraannkk]

TTS is the real problem with the video. I'd think people would have figured out to give the TTS something like "Ten Eighty" when talking about a GTX 1080 so it doesn't say "One Thousand and Eighty". It just goes to show how people who run a TTS channel can't be bothered to put more than minimal effort into it.

[@yaboipele34]

9:50 Joe, I lost 50 hours of playtime in BG3 on Xbox because some save files got corrupted. That guy’s point is irrelevant.

[@chrisr1382]

9:30 I played through Guardians of The Galaxy on PC and had no crashes nor any issues. I'm currently on my second playthrough of it and still no issues. It sounds to me like his PC had some problems.

[@The9thOne9]

A PC is much less expensive in the long run, regardless of what you own. The initial cost is high if you want something powerful, yes, but the upkeep is only the electricity you are burning and maybe dealing with some software. You don't have to pay for anything extra (like a sub just to play online). Not even games, if that's what you prefer. Makes me wonder if that guy was just ragebaiting.

[@Vell1981]

Every Game i Play on PC these Days sniffs out your Hardware and gives you recommended Settings Jesus PC gaming is not that difficult.

[@jabur81]

Thanks Kev

[@lilsadb0i]

"I got about fifty feet out and suddenly, the great beast appeared before me. I tell you, he was ten stories high if he was a foot. As if sensing my presence, he let out a great bellow. I said, "Easy, big fella!" And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing."

[@The9thOne9]

Unexpected roleplay or AI slop?

[@RealDavidChipman]

@@The9thOne9both.

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

See I have had nothing but consoles since nes. Never owned a gaming pc til this past Christmas when I got my steam deck. It’s a nice step in the right direction and the portability of it is what actually lets me get more gaming in at home with kids and a wife. I have hardly touched my PlayStation or Xbox. My switch gets more gaming than my consoles. I’m not a power snob I can easily buy DS versions of games and be happy with that. I’ll never get another console again. It’s on handheld and my switch from now on. I got 30 games on steam winter sale for 90 bucks.

[@desangrador5770]

why it does sounds like griffin but with a higher pitch?

[@BaroqueSphinx]

Thanks kev

[@Endolas1]

Maybe he meant to say, that he dosn't have the money anymore after purchasing two consoles and a Apple product.

[@rikispiral7936]

It is a reference to Rikki Tikki Tavi, kinda. I had a friend who would call me a similar name of it spelled out as Riki Tiki Taby. Don't ask me why, to this day I still don't know.

[@Anthonyelmio2]

So ether have something you can upgrade when ever you want, piece by piece and do everything ie. PC or have 3 boxes that cost alot and have to throw the whole thing away to upgraded Pc is still better and cheaper as a whole

[@zanelightbluesky]

Why don't buy instead a lenovo legion go and a nintendo switch 2?

[@xshme]

Halfway through the video but it seems this guy should have gotten a steam deck. It has quick resume, and it gives you a great option alongside your pc for multiplayer games like it takes two

[@dxdxdxdxdxd7125]

> PC is too complicated > buys MacBook Pro, Xbox SX, PS 5 instead of one mashine that does it all buys 3, only one of which can actually be useful(MacBook), but not for gaming

[@snintendog]

You are gonna have alot of content soon. The switch 2 announcement got the drones in a frenzy. " I will get feutures not on steam deck like an SD card reader on switch 2 and 9 hours of battery life, And games that just work." When i pointed out that those are all things on steam they went Redditor mode and started talking about sony ponies.

[@Nirob615]

If you don't mind keeping a game running alt tab is faster than quick resume. However, as far as I know you can only have one game running per client that you have open. Heck you can even use background fps limits to keep performance in whatever app is in the foreground good. Also PC supports local co-op it's just a lot of developers don't bother to put it in their games. Also I will always hold the opinion that gun recoil is easier to control with a controller. Also movement in general can be more precise than on mouse and keyboard since WASD just isn't as precise as the omni-directional left stick of controllers. The advantage for aiming with mouse and keyboard does absolutely out weigh that advantage though.

[@ichl46]

You absolutely can have more than one game running at the same time, at least on Steam.

[@Nirob615]

@@ichl46 oh well then I'll be honest it told me I couldn't do that way back when, and I've just never tried again

[@thunderflare59]

Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart

[@Dominus1302]

'Why did i buy the macbook? Simplicity' ... SIMPLICITY? From an Apple product?

[@Prodzick]

What would be complicated exactly ?

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

also nyrna exists. thats basically quick resume

[@zombl337og]

ppl act like PC is so complicated lol. Once I setup my PC initially (which takes an hr or 2), i dont have any issues but on rare occasion, drivers are easy to install with GPU software in a couple clicks, STEAM updates all the rest and has cloud saves, and I can choose what controller i use for games (Xbox, Playstation, Switch)

[@ichl46]

Some days ago I had some dude on twitter telling me that it is easier and more intuitive to just play a game on console and I was like ???? Just click on Steam, click on the game you wanna play and click the big button that says "PLAY". It's not rocket science.

[@acev3521]

Quick resume is on PC it's called hibernation just leave your shit to go low power and you can resume pretty much anything instantly

[@The9thOne9]

True, and it's not even a necessary thing if you have a half-decent SSD.

[@Spacewolff88]

I guess the person making the video is unaware that console controlllers connect to PC. As far as Dualsense is concerned, when I had a PS5 the only game I could really tell it had a big change on was Death Stranding. It made it way easier to keep from dropping your packages.

[@Pakeee2]

Yeah no dualsense is useless. All the features work in like, five games? Plus they arent durable at all.

[@NeroDMC-jw6hf]

Do you have one?

[@Pakeee2]

@NeroDMC-jw6hf Had one. There were no xbox controllers for sale in my town and since im on pc i had to make due. Got a dualsense instead. Money wasted. Gave it to a friend with a PS5.

[@Jamarr009]

Thanks, Kev

[@M4TTYN]

Always the Ai TTS channels dude!

[@MarcelHoskins]

I’m gaming on my Mac mini m4 via GeForce Now!! I love it and can keep my games❤

[@-Blue-_]

brother you are not playing any game on your Mac M4 mini you are playing game through cloud means you are literally playing games on a Nvidia windows based PC somewhere sitting in nvidia server building

[@Null0023]

NZXT got exposed hard though off topic to the video.

[@TremelJackson]

Hey man 35fps is monumental 😂

[@fojisan2398]

We going back to Doom on DOS wit dis one!

[@demoniktusk758]

the name in Cyrillic that you couldn't read is pronounced ''Omni Stef Dehvehdesset Chehteery''

[@omarguerrero6417]

I have both xbox and pc for minecraft and mainly use the xbox for splitscreen multiplayer games

[@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z]

that video's weird voice sounds like itsagundam if he had zero balls or soul..

[@DeusNyx]

Does anyone else think the voice sounds like Papa Gundam?

[@gabnash5998]

Without the “new yark” accent?

[@xNetman]

Thanks experience!

[@Shady-Frank]

I think this video was edited by an ai as well.

[@SquidBow]

Me here 12:04 me casualy playing it takes 2 for my first time... I am playing solo

[@justacat472]

Ah man 16gb ram 3rd party ai ram.

[@spikytoaster]

Except things do but proceed g

[@MatthewCenance]

Oh my god, what kind of title is that? That feels like something made up!

[@tylermaccallum3529]

As someone with a PS5 controller.. there is no difference.. the haptic feedback is nice.. but it's not game changing.

[@lego_minifig]

Bro was gushing about the MacBook but did not even mention the one feature that Macs dominate any windows machine in. Battery life. I hate using MacOS, but the fact that it actually has functioning battery management does make it my mobile platform of choice.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

You could just use a tablet with a cell modem or a cellphone, and a portable kbd and mouse. Remote desktop to your pc. Smokes the battery life of a mac.

[@lego_minifig]

@ that relies on stable internet connectivity so that is not a real solution to a mobile workstation. The battery life on a tablet or phone may be better than an intel mac, but any mac with apple silicon is pretty much just as good. PC is better in a lot of ways, but this is one aspect they are currently lagging behind in. Windows does not seem care and Linux development on these features are slow.

[@-Blue-_]

​@@lego_minifignobody cares about battery life of a mac if they have powerful PC, apart from a battery everything mac is just subpar

[@lego_minifig]

@@-Blue-_ that is just straight up a biased opinion with no relation to facts of any sort. It’s about the intended usecase of the device. I am currently using a 3900x and 2080 Super (in the process of transitioning to a 9900x and 5090 which I am hyped about) workstation that destroys my 2020 MacBook Pro in power. But that is a stationary machine. That workstation is USELESS when I need to work on a project in a mobile setting. When on the go, battery life is extremely important. The difference between 2 to 4+ hours is huge when working on a project on the go. Will I always prefer to work on my PC? Yes. You can’t beat the extra performance of powerful hardware, the ability to have multiple monitors, and space for stream decks to use as macro pads for shortcuts. But none of those pros are relevant if space and portability are required for your usecase.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

I think for me the only pc gaming thing I need is the steamdeck

[@marcoa395]

His MacBook is outdated as soon as he bought it. his Xbox and ps5 play most of the same games now. With a pc u can play games from both platforms. If u can build with Legos you can build a pc. He probably spent like over 2000 usd but pc is expensive

[@Capt_Dango]

Think it boils down to, they're lazy and dont want to use their brain at all. At least that's what I got from the AI voice over.

[@Retro_Stylez]

I've been really enjoying your videos, maybe a little too much during work hours, XD But I have to say, I just can't get into the AI video commentary. There's something about the pacing of how AI talks that drives me crazy. On a different note, I’ve fully switched to PC this past year. I was torn between both worlds for a while, but this last generation of consoles really did it for me. I tried playing on my PS5 recently, and it honestly felt like using a VCR... just not a great experience. Plus, my save file for Visions of Mana got corrupted on the console (From no fault of my own) But I will say, I do love using my PS5 controller... just not on the PS5... I’m all about using it on my PC now!

[@spikefishnetwork1118]

I tried dual sense once. It was Eh.

[@OrkDiktator]

I had a stone axe and then moved on to Iron arrows and that's why I switched to macbook and consoles. tThe sheeple of the Apple church are the ponies of computers. So he's consequent

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

a macbook pro isnt even that high spec wise. you can make a pc one for cheaper that has the same specs tho?

[@svenmanning]

The moron overpaid for a computer that specifically is designed for photographic software

[@hfnavi132]

PC gaming is expensive but actually while you spend more for hardware you spend less for games and better software which gives you better performance. 32 G B of ARR AYY EM.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

Ryzen 5800x, rtx 3080, 2tb ssd and 32gb ram. A ps5pro killer for $750. Pc gaming is NOT EXPENSIVE. Especially compared to the ps5pro.

[@hfnavi132]

​@@Dj-Mccullough I mean a PS5 pro is way easily beaten and thats a given but explain the Xbox Series X for the low price of $450-600 Granted I am making an endgame mini itx build that is not even on the same level as a console. So an ASUS 4090 all in one liquid cooled graphics card I forgot I had because its way smaller. i7 14700kf because if I put my 14900ks which is a fantastic CPU but if i put it in a tiny case with a tiny cooler I dont know what will happen to it and the house I am in other than kaboom.

[@Official_RetroMania]

NO, I refuse to believe that such stupid people exist on our planet! Then again people also believe that the earth is flat... Nevermind.

[@vitorsilveira02]

I have never seen a video make less sense

[@soulsolis3096]

Tech cost too much, me buy weaker but more expansive tech to prove point!

[@Carl-gj4ed]

Sorry. I can't finish watching this video. It's not you, Joe. It's the AI voice over.

[@extremethewolf7490]

I swear I didn't invite any furries to this channel.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Apples are for Work uses,So why would this replace PC games ? lol,Apple has the best efficiency when it comes to work loads and certain programs,They have the best chips on the market.But comparing a PC is completely irrelevant as they are totally different.The MAC studio is a absolute beast of a machine that is PC like,It’s comparable to a 4090 to render Animations and Pixar level graphics.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

It is NOT EQUIVILANT to a 4090. Apple lied.

[@-Blue-_]

Mac Studio is not even comparable to a 4060 desktop and here you are talking about 4090 and now 5090 is launched, most of the 3d industry use windows based PCs not Mac they are not even powerful compared to Workstations, only youtubers and graphics designer use macbook lol 😂😂

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@Dj-Mccullough In efficiency it is,It’s better,It doesn’t need a Massive card.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@-Blue-_ You do know many business who are on the high end of rendering and animation use Macs ? It’s well known,My dad was a graphic designer and worked on high end productions,He used high end MACS and they were beasts,The mac studio is more than a 4090 times 2….They are LITERALLY built for Animations and high end design.Like Animations as it comes with a MAC Studio display which is gorgeous,Over 15k in dosh 💰,Don’t compare Apple to crappy PCs,And yes is destroys any cards in efficiency and has better graphics than a 4080 on a CHIP.I know,I’ve seen them and i have a PC.Please don’t talk out your arse.Also the Mac OS is ten times better for production.

[@kitsune-chan6897]

I've seen some of these fanboys say that PC gaming is expensive due to the OS prices... Imagine paying for windows I use Arch btw

[@andyl4683]

You forgot the neofetch 🤣 I use garuda but I do have windows but the price of windows is mute anyway you don’t need to pay for it and you even if you did no one pays the price console users think it’s costs

[@kitsune-chan6897]

Garuda is pretty cool. ​@@andyl4683

[@LightShadowOnyx]

so let me get this straight he sold his pc for the simplistic mac book pro that costs $1600, a series x that costs $500, and a ps5 which either cost him $450 if he got digital version or $500 if he got the disc version. depending how much he got from his pc he went from $2750 or $2800 to whatever he paid from selling his pc because pc gaming is too difficult from him. This guy is a moron

[@Dajudge06]

Posting a comment so I can SS proof for the discord xD

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

You can build a sub 1k console killer and buy yourself a pre owned thinkpad t480 for a much better experience than the mac and consoles for cheaper. Op is an idiot

[@Yourorical]

joe you need to not play healer in rivals...