PC Setup Customization: Refresh Rate

[@igornikolic4394]

I've seen 144hz with my eyes and I can say that it is beautiful. Incredible. Gift for your sight. But if you can get stable 60fps on 60hz monitor, it is totally fine. I wouldn't go below 60. But hey, I am the one who played GTA V for over a year and didn't know that Vsync was on half, so locked 30.

[@QGTube]

THAT gtav story :D

[@AK-wj5wx]

Hi, i use 2 monitors a 144hz and a 60hz, I would say, 60hz is fine for most gaming (unless you are a csgo player) but once you play 144hz for a long time 60hz looks horrible and it gives me headaches now i cant switch back.

[@burntoutmage]

I have a 144hz monitor and a 60hz monitor. The 144hz monitor just feels faster :/

[@samithasheshan8215]

And am I the only one feels dizzy when playing on 30fps 60fps+ ftw

[@zhongxina6621]

I have a 144hz monitor (can be overclocked to 165) And I dont think it was really worth it. I regret Selling my 1440p ultrawide. Sure it makes a difference, but 60fps is plenty in most games nowadays.

[@JuanGarcia-rg2gi]

Finally! Someone explained all this with common sense rather than technical language and without adding: "You'll need a very high end/expensive system to fully take advantage of the monitor"

[@theblacksamurai6329]

It depends if you're planning to play at 1080 2k or 4k

[@Rcm23195]

I swear, every time i start having a tech question that i start to look into on my own, these guys manage to read my mind and make a video about it. The timing is uncanny!

[@QmeteK]

They are spying on us :P

[@Rcm23195]

rIGHT

[@Johanneslol11]

Video starts at 1:50 :) !

[@SneakyJoeRu]

1:52

[@myob2dac]

Johanneslol11 I was enjoying the speech in the beginning. Reminds me of why I left consoles

[@SmokeyEdits]

Actually, the video starts at 0:00. Saying it starts any later than that makes literally no sense whatsoever.

[@nikolagaborov6389]

Smokey Jef you must be fun at parties.

[@SmokeyEdits]

I'm a hoot and a holler short of a riot.

[@TechDunk]

I overclocked my monitor to 70 hz, so now I can have a bit higher framerates!

[@Ek92543]

My brain cells... 🤔🤭😧

[@bradydavidow4470]

Lol

[@ItsExetic]

From a pretty hardcore CS:GO gamer with a 1080Ti and a 240Hz BenQ monitor, I can assure that most of you can't even tell a difference between 240 and 144. Most people would waste money getting a 240Hz display, rather get a 144 with better colors!

[@burntoutmage]

Exetic Why would you play csgo with a 1080ti?

[@powerfulshammy]

yea as xia said that's too high of a vid card not unless your gonna play fallout 4 or skyrim sometimes it can even bottleneck your game try that card with red alert 2 or diablo 2 you'll need a separate program to run those games smoothly with that card. It's as old as csgo those games that's why you can't tell the difference between 240 and 144 game was made for 120hz

[@ArchieGamez]

>1080ti >CSGO Wot

[@ItsExetic]

Devin Xia why would I use any other GPU when I have a 1080Ti? Who says this pc is for gaming, or even cs only?

[@dickr9345]

Exetic Obviously you should buy a 1050ti or 1060 and swap out the 1080ti when u play CS:GO. Ya know? Like the dum dum said "why would you play CS:GO with a 1080ti"? ;)

[@craigreustle2192]

There is a lot of incorrect information on the internet about this topic. I'm glad you know what you're talking about. Good video. Do more like this.

[@GodofAnnihilation]

Good place to start for those new to gaming monitors. Up-to-date info and well-presented by Keys as always! PS Digging the new intro!

[@효린-e4d]

I don't understand the hate in the comments, that's actually very informative even if I know about it. They condensced in 7min what took me multiple research back in the days to figure out.

[@Root174]

There will always be new people who won't know about this and it's a good refresher.

[@atenleggedninja]

Excellent video, I think this series is a wonderful idea. Don't go bankrupt before you finish this series guys! Fingers crossed.

[@gregdingel]

Good info! I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.

[@gutlessness]

I'm looking forward to the resolution one because I personally value that over high refresh rate. I'd like to know what sort of hardware id need to run dual 4k

[@pizzaboy2020]

Did you ever make a follow up to this video?

[@philliperasmus9453]

To avoid screen tearing and input lag without shelling out on a GSYNC or FREESYNC monitor do the following: Turn VSYNC on in game (whatever game you are playing), find the console command to limit frame rate to 1 short of the VSYNC cap i.e. if your refresh rate is 60 set in game frame limit to 59 - enjoy almost perfect screen tear free display

[@_FootHand]

Why does the closing credits still show Barret and Julia's twitter handles?

[@basher515a]

Before you move on to other topics, you should talk about TN vs IPS vs VA on monitor panels as it also affects gaming experience.

[@conza1989]

Keys so where does the Acer Predator X34 at 100Hz w/ G-Sync come into this? Not that great for fast pace? I just find that a little difficult to believe

[@harrywang2566]

Nice series, keep going on

[@DMan-ud6bt]

Higher refresh rates are great for gaming, but also help your eyes/head when gazing upon your screen(s) for extended periods of time. Your eyes see less lagging when doing things as mundane as moving your cursor, windows, or files around. This is much easier on the eyes, even if you don't notice it at first. The advantages to gaming are an obvious reason for it.

[@MrZoichi]

Great video; we need more tech tips!

[@TSLMachine]

With the video settings I currently use on Overwatch, I can most likely get 240FPS somewhat stable with a GTX 1050. I'd need a better processor than what I'm currently using to accompany that card to be able to pump out all those frames tho.

[@damonharris-brennan5810]

Human eye can't see past 1 frame per second.

[@benjaminshields9421]

damon harris-Brennan Loooool

[@skylake_thememe6586]

damon harris-Brennan lies. The human eye can't see frames

[@2005RavenR6]

Lies.

[@dickr9345]

damon harris-Brennan True, but most of us have 2 eyes. Therefore it's actually 2 FPS.

[@MrKZdemos]

lol took it to a new level at 1 fps

[@TheNiteNinja19]

I like ultrawide panels, especially for FPS games, still waiting for 3440x1440 resolutions higher than 60hz. Although my panel overclocks to 75hz, which is an acceptable bump.

[@Zhnark]

there is a 4k 144hz coming soon

[@cameronschiff132]

German Acevedo Kaufhold can you provide a link? I can't find anything like that anywhere.

[@cameronschiff132]

Webbie 1. How old games are you talking? What can't adjust to a 1440p resolution? 2. If downscaling is that much of an issue you can always just play in windowed mode 3. Affordable 4K ultrawides are like 5 years away minimum so you might have some to do some waiting

[@STRABL0]

I am using an Acer 21:9 3440x1440 panel at 100Hz (overclocked from 75Hz). They are pretty common now above 60Hz, but the downside is they are typically FreeSync. You can get them with GSync but be prepared to rob a bank. 1440 ultra wide is game changing though, even coming from a 27" 2560x1440 panel.

[@OverNineThousaaaandd]

My Acer X34 (3440x1440, IPS, 100Hz) would like a word with you. I hear it has some good news.

[@Grady_OBS]

From a guy that has recently bought a 144hz monitor I can say that if you can get one and play (for example) CS:GO then go for it. ive been able to see the enemy quicker and not have the screen tearing image of a Terriest, thus ending in me dieing. Ive got a GTX 970 and its more than able to give me the 144fps +

[@synopia22]

Great video Keys

[@kuzonCS2]

New series, wow! Lets go!

[@Samiby]

You guys have done this before. Howabout giving the peoples a guide on overclocking their monitors?

[@pauldrice1996]

When are we getting more videos like this from NCIX?

[@sansdotsh]

NCIX is gone

[@SpikeTiger]

with everyone running 2+ monitors now how dose that affect this video? do you need a better card to push out to the extra monitor.. what if they have different refresh rates.. (re-using your old one as a secondary)

[@theg.o.a.t5018]

question: i just bought ASUS XG27VQ , BUT WHY 1080P cant not go with 144hz ?

[@MetalJody1990]

I have a 144Hz G-Sync monitor with a GTX 970 and i5-4460. Most of the time the 144Hz is overkill, but I have a lot of older games that take full advantage of it. A lot of my newer games have to played at 60 fps or something near it because my CPU is a huuuge bottleneck. I really should've invested in an i7-4790 back when I upgraded in 2015. I can only imagine how nice it would be to play BF1 64p multiplayer with 100+ fps.

[@thepanda145]

Is there a next part or is this the only video in the series?

[@JayceVR]

What's your GPU recommendation for 1440p 144hz monitor? It supports freesync, but AMD GPU prices are still insane in my region.

[@GeorgeWPush]

gtx 1070

[@Puck90a]

I'm 100% satisfied to get a stable 60 fps with v-sync on a 60Hz monitor at 1080p. I struggled with sub 30 fps frame rates on my crappy computers growing up, so to have a solid 60 fps in a graphic-intensive game feels like pure luxury to me. If there's anything better than that, I almost don't even want to see it or know about it. Ignorance is bliss.

[@יהונתןביטון-ל1ס]

If i played at 4k with asus 1080 ti and lg c7 oled tv the tv is hade 60hz and the graphic card is about 70-80 fps dose it a problem?

[@NaeRae]

how should i know if im using a tv

[@Patrick73787]

My monitor is an Asus PG279Q, a 1440p 165Hz G-Sync IPS monitor powered by 2 GTX 1080s in SLI. I can tell the difference between 120Hz and 165Hz. I wonder if I'll be able to tell the difference between 165Hz and 240Hz.

[@franzb69]

adaptive sync are also super awesome for slow gpu's. so having the xbone have free sync makes sense.

[@ImOnMy116]

Maybe I missed it, but they probably should have mentioned that if targeting a high frame rate, you should also seriously consider what CPU you are using. If you're CPU-limited, having a more powerful graphics card/turning down graphical settings won't do you much good. I can speak firsthand after upgrading from an overclocked Xeon X5680 (4.3 GHz) to an i7 6700k at 4.5 GHz with a 980 Ti. At 1080p, I was CPU bottlenecked in most titles, and saw measurable and significant improvements after switching to the 6700k.

[@Vaxxnor]

I didn't notice you mention cpu choice when you move to higher fps. When you go above 120fps I believe it becomes a factor for pumping that many frames in some bigger games. Unless it's assumed people who are spending this kind of money already have or are buying a modern cpu.

[@Jfunkey]

I mostly play action games so a 144hz 2K monitor with a 1080 would work for me right? Or should I get a 1070? Or wait for Volta?

[@AliAdam80]

Am looking for a 29 inch 1440p 120+ hz monitor. Does one exist? Cant find any. Currently got a 29 inch 1080p 60hz

[@nickshotwell8055]

this boy, man, human, whatever he is, he is my favorite of those things

[@drink15]

Keys ever make his channel? He was going to say what happened at NCIX.

[@drags777]

You probably already are but can you touch on curved gaming monitors and if it’s worth it.

[@Sando_Brown]

If you play rocket league 60fps is unplayable once you have seen 144fps.

[@Sando_Brown]

dear god, how do you play Rocket league at 20FPS you must be a god.

[@8888760]

Sando Brown everyone was always telling me to not have my FPS over 60, but when I set it to the recommended it would set itself to 182FPS

[@SuneFyr]

what about enhanced sync and fastsync ???

[@seaneredia5199]

What do yo u guys think of 60fps movies using Interpolation?

[@stainedboxerz]

i grew up with consoles since the atari days, so refresh rates arent really a big deal for me. So i just got into PC after Dark Souls 2 scholar of the first sim came out on consoles, and played at 60 fps, i was hooked. When i heard dark souls 3 was going to be 30 fps on consoles, i just had to get into PC. I have to play on a tv, for RPGs and single player games are my thing, so i just bought a 55 in Sony x850D HDR, and OMG its lock at 60 in every game, even at 1080p, but maxing out games with my 1080 ti, or playing at 1440p, even 4k. GAmes look gorgeous, especially HDR games like Mass effect Andromeda. I didn't forget to mention lag, because ive been used to lag playing console, so its no big deal, and lag is not that bad at 4k. Im use to it now, but at 60 fps at 4k, ill take that any day.

[@mulsimin__]

Making the jump from one resolution to another is great but I would recommend people to make the jump from 60 to 120 or 144 he monitors because with all honesty it Significantly boosted my reflex in games such as Rainbow six siege and Battlefield 1.

[@Shadvi7Z]

I have a geforece gtx 960 which monitor should i go with lol

[@nicks8991]

I love the new Intro :)

[@tomduke1297]

its pretty much the same with 60Hz as with 1080p, while more is better, your getting noticably diminishing returns for the extra computing power you need to put in. also today we have temporal-AA which makes even 30 fps increadibly smooth looking. personaly i rather play at 4k - 30fps then 720p - 200fps.

[@Wachtsseu]

Thank you, that was a nice update. Back in the day it was all about turning AA on or off as the most advanced graphic options and I've lost track of all the latest gimmicks. Also what's up with triple buffering?

[@kekistan6762]

"Your Outlook account settings are out of date" tf

[@Acetoxic]

lool as i went to pause the video at the end i subscribed by accident, i guess im committed now.

[@Sir-Prizse]

I did something crazy, I bought a Full HD 144 Hz monitor and I have no PC that is able to use the monitor to it's full potential and mainly I play on consoles. But the monitor has a big advantage, 1ms response time and FreeSync in the 30 - 144Hz range, and I firmly believe that FreeSync will soon be standard on consoles.

[@Sir-Prizse]

But I bought this monitor, because it was a bargain and I am planning to upgrade in a year, where the Radeon RX 680 comes out.

[@shehanliyanage7243]

is having a 2560 monitor better or a high refresh rate 1080p? I have a 1070 and have been thinking of getting either recently

[@arunimadutta04]

I have a rx 570, so is a 60hz monitor fine? 🤔 (I am in a tight budget though)

[@nytro8027]

Yeah, try to overclock your monitor too, you might hit 70 or 75hz

[@playstoreaccount9692]

Hey man Is it true there are different types of FreeSync chips made for different manufacturers?

[@SoulDragonWithFlow]

This is scary. My monitor died literally TODAY. Been looking for a new one and wondering if I should go 4K@60 or 1440@120.

[@theblackdeath10]

SoulDragonWithFlow if you want to win in games more than you like pretty things get 120+ refresh rate one

[@Valfaun]

240Hz is very much a niche product, isn't it? unless you're playing esports games on lowest settings, not even a 1080Ti can maintain that framerate. DOOM doesn't even go above 200 fps despite running so well on basically everything that wasn't built a decade ago. would like to get my hands on a 144Hz monitor at some point, though

[@theblackdeath10]

Valfaun well yeah but there are games you can get over 144 fps in and so there is some benefit even if you dont get 240 fps

[@Valfaun]

Colin Nguyen hm... i suppose so. though it's even less of a benefit then, so might as well go for higher settings instead. but yeah, valid point. i've been wondering, however, if there's any sort of perceived lag or "unsmoothness" if you can't match your panel's refresh rate at high values? meaning, do 144fps look the same on a 144Hz panel and a 240Hz one?

[@_TrueDesire_]

Valfaun im running gtx 1080, getting 240hz for OW :)

[@MrS22222]

I get 300fps on csgo with the settings all the way up, with a 1060 6gb no less. whatutalkinbout

[@0wsadwsad0]

lol you guys forget rhythm game. In fact OSU is the only game I have played that I can actually tell the difference between the 60fps/120fps/24fps and unlimited settings.

[@dan_loup]

Consoles used to be boxes that you just plugged in to the television, plugged a cartridge on it and got a 60 frames per second experience almost instantly. Now.. not so much.

[@DinJerr]

R.I.P. NCIX, you will be missed (somewhat).

[@lXxMARINxXl]

before i watch the video, Yes!, it matters, a monitor running at 60Hz is able to display 60 frames per second, if your ingame frames are above that, you are wasting performance, might as well limit the frames to ease off on the hardware because your monitor wont be showing frames above 60fps, plus!, if you can get 120fps and have a 120Hz monitor, it will seem smoother, if your ingame frames are sitting around 120, and another thing, your connection between monitor and computer also has a limit, some cables can only put 60fps to the monitor, so if your monitor and game performance is 120Hz/fps, bu your cable is 60, then you will only see 60fps, make sure to match the 3 of them for best result, now to watch this video.

[@greba8048]

should i chang my refresh rate from 60hz to 75hz ?

[@igorpoljak0101]

er KG271Abmidpx 27" 144, 1 ms, freesync 16:9 1080p but its 27 inches, i m worried about looking sh**y i got a medium rig: cpu i5 6600 gpu amd radeon rx 480 gaming x ram 16 gb crossair ram help! current monitor lg tv 82 cm

[@abrams5819]

120 or 144 hz for my next monitor?

[@EHawk9970]

This was pretty informative, much thanks

[@poisonxattack]

0:36 what mouse is that?

[@TexelGuy]

It's the asus spatha. Just searched "Asus mouse" on google and got this. They literally used only asus products in this video.

[@Felix-ve9hs]

did anyone heard of Riva Tuner Statistics Server? You can limit your FPS with that too ...

[@ΓιώργοςΒελαλής-ν6λ]

Mine goes up to 144 but gpu not

[@thingsiplay]

I play Overwatch at 165Hz with G-Sync 1440p. Its not constant high fps, but damn it feels so good.

[@dukedurell]

Useful bit of info Thanks!

[@DriveGamingLive]

End cards?

[@timkline162]

Dumb question .. so, if you have a 240 hz monitor, do you need to be able to have 240 fps in games for it to work right? Seems kinda hella high to me...

[@Kirides]

Want to DISPLAY 240 different Images per second? need to RENDER 240 different Images per second. So Yes, you nee to be able to achieve (constant) 240 fps to fully utilise a 240hz Monitor

[@timkline162]

What kinda system do you need for that? Like 4 1080 Ti's?

[@shehzaanaabdulla3047]

People who want that kind of framerate are typically playing competitive games, which aren't that demanding on hardware. For a single-player/non-competitive game that kind of framerate is overkill (and honestly, with FreeSync/G-Sync after a certain point it is really hard to see a difference because the tech ameliorates/absorbs fps fluctuations).

[@Javierm0n0]

You do not have to, no. But you should be able to adjust the monitors frame rate at least close to what your gpu outputs for best results.

[@andres154525452]

Early days of Riley! Nice!

[@ryansmoorenburg6002]

i have a gtx 906 with a 60hz monitor should i upgrade to 120 or use v-sync or get a gaming monitor that supports g-sync? Which should i do?

[@ryansmoorenburg6002]

i usually play fps games

[@barrycooper8640]

Wtf is a gtx 906? Did you make it yourself?

[@ryansmoorenburg6002]

i meant gtx 960 sorry

[@MrXHDTV]

I don't agree that you shouldn't get a high-end card when you have a standard 60 Hz monitor. For example if you get a GTX 1080 + 1080p 60Hz monitor and enable Vsync, you won't even hear the card, it will be so silent and the power consumption will be very low. I always prefer silent PCs and usually get some overkill GPUs.

[@matthewprather189]

Dorin Gaiu Or you could just use headphones like a sensible person

[@AH-qc1yh]

You know how much did you help me I have a GTX 1080ti and I got 60HZ monitor that why my games lag I will get the same monitor you've got ty a lot

[@tsartomato]

at 40" screen 60 is already painful in windows interface

[@magicUse]

I know you said that i would bedste covered in another vid. But to take out settings and most important resolution made No sense,..

[@effeloffens9058]

I have been using a 4k monitor @60hz for the past 2 years now and was thinking of switching it out mainly for gaming, should I get a 1440p monitor @144hz or a 3440x1440 monitor @100hz?

[@Najvalsa]

Effel Offens depends on the type of game. If it's competitive or maybe a simulator then go for the higher refresh rate, but if it's like the witcher 3 or something then the higher refresh rate doesn't matter.

[@shehzaanaabdulla3047]

If you can wait 4K/144Hz monitors are coming (later this year, IIRC).

[@headshot803]

I think higher refresh rates monitors are not only applicable to fps games but generally fast-paced action games. Try parrying in Dark souls using 60hz vs 144hz and you will notice that you`re better at 144hz.

[@Civilsitis]

Thank you for the simple way you pass the knowlege !!!

[@stevensam1313]

Hey you mentioned that gamers would be interested in console gaming if the performance is good and allows for customization. Do you think this is something that could happen in the future?

[@hkoizumi3134]

I have no doubt that it will. Looking back from the 90s console to current console, the amount of options are noticeably more. But knowing console licensing business model, they will charge premium for those options. Like what they did with online access.

[@woodyTM]

being an owner of both 144hz and 240hz displays i can tell you that it is a neat luxury, but it isn't really necessary. 60hz is plenty and 75/80hz overclocked is the sweet spot because most, not all, can overclock that high safely

[@Wa5Wei5Ich]

I5 4670K @ 3.8GHz Zotac GTX 970 Omega Core! 1440p 144Hz GSnyc, Curved, 21:9 Valid Combo?...I think my current combo cant handle it with at least medium settings. Want to Upgrade PC internal Hardware by the end of the year.

[@Wa5Wei5Ich]

I think monitors are pretty "future-proof". So why not getting a monitor first? My current one is one of the first 1080p60Hz from Samsung. My brother got a 1080p144Hz ROG (just know its 24" and GSync) and it felt pretty good with just 100-120Fps

[@gameguy301]

you: in conclusion refresh rate matters also you: uploads video in 30FPS

[@furjaden8553]

just put it on double speed

[@zidrick9604]

hey guys I have a question. If I game on a 1440p monitor will games automatically play at 1440p or do I like have to adjust the resolution in game settings? Btw can I play 1440p on a PS3 and PS4?

[@ambersali8982]

ps4 can't 1080 or 2160

[@zidrick9604]

so what happens when I game with a PS4/PS3 on a 1440p monitor? will there be problems?

[@ambersali8982]

no problem it will work at 1080

[@zidrick9604]

okay thank you very much.

[@tanishq5792]

I need a new 144hz 1080p monitor with freesync any suggestions? My budget is like $350

[@zhain0]

k yeh, i got a suggestion.... Learn use google you lazy fuck

[@tanishq5792]

zhain0 smh I asked for a suggestion, and u say learn to use Google when u yourself don't know what suggestion means..the irony

[@zhain0]

suggestion noun 1.an idea or plan put forward for consideration. my suggestion (which was an idea) was for you to learn how to use google which would then result in you finding the information you asked for in a short amount of time. so you see..... it was a suggestion..... and there is no irony. i also have another suggestion.... learn the definition of a word before trying to tell someone how to use it. you know whats really weird though, to learn a words definition (assuming you do not have a up to date physical dictionary at hand) you have to look for it on google, which just brings me to my original reply.... Learn use google you lazy fuck

[@lokiblanding782]

Can a crt run at 240 hurts

[@spycozelot]

can't see it through pc I need to be there to notice it.

[@nexit1993]

Hey NCIX can you make a video where you show what settings u have to play on by trying to reach 144 hz with a given gpu and cpu . Overwatch interests me the most tbh. cause I wanna build a pc which is capable on pushing out 144hz on relativ(dont have to be epic) good graphic settings and pricepoint. WQHD would be my reolution i think

[@wbushnaq]

Thank you for the explanation

[@TheAstronomyDude]

Why no love for the 1060?

[@jovieasyrof2325]

Love how keys explain this thing

[@LeonegasHolmes]

Awsome video ;) thx for the lesson

[@Rafy_24]

actually good info!!! Thanks dude! Central Pahk!

[@motoryzen]

Keys. The answer to your question ( which you should probably already know) is YES there is a big difference in the fluidity of the experience coming from a conslow in which over 90% of their games are limited to 30 fps, where at the PCMR.....has NO limits ( when using a crt), and currently up to 240fps on their games. There's a REASON it's called the PC Master Race Class dismissed.