🛑STOP🛑 Making These PSU Mistakes! Best Power Supply for PC 2022

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@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
*PSU Guidance Change: RTX 4000 series GPUs seem ok in terms of spikes, only need to add 100W "NVIDIA Tax" to 3080/3090 models.* What are your biggest challenges with finding the right PSU? What was the best PSU you ever had?
@hzwinip
@hzwinip 2 жыл бұрын
I found a bitminer supershocker 2400w 120+ platinum for $19. Going to finally try my 3090s in sli.
@trippie7956
@trippie7956 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't have any issues finding a PSU. I got the EVGA Super Nova 850w Gold and my pc is running smooth.
@pascaldifolco4611
@pascaldifolco4611 2 жыл бұрын
I'm super happy with my Corsair RM850x on a 5900X/3080, never had an issue with spikes, and super silent I've always bought Corsair PSU since 10 years, got a CV600 and a CX650, much more budget oriented, but both are still working!
@Equinoksl
@Equinoksl 2 жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for this video. I have a nice modular 680 Watt Super Flower PSU from Atlas with cool RGB effects. But its from 2008 and while it still runs like a charm, the cables, especially the power cable for the CPU is too short and can't be hidden behind the motherboard, which just looks ugly like these old IDE cables stuck between the CPU cooler and the VRMs. Also since it is so old i don't want to kill it by going from a GTX 950 to something that needs more power like a 6700XT or 3060 Ti.
@rknudson1407
@rknudson1407 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video on PSU's.. I enjoy stalking my prey for the best price / discount to get the most out of my dollar.. For example... for the past 2 months I've been watching Newegg's 12600K cpu price go low as $45 off regular price of $279.99 ..but at the time it was at its greatest discount I was broke.. LOL (it came close to the price of their 12600 for $229.98)
@JayDeeFrm7400
@JayDeeFrm7400 Жыл бұрын
As a motor controls electrician that’s been building anything from control panels to transmitter racks, power relay panels you name it, this man knows what he’s talking about and explains things in a tone that really makes you understand and wanna learn what he’s talking about. They really need to hire on someone like you as an OSHA trainer to encourage young people to learn all the basics like electronic current ect, cause with more young people with the interest to learn more about the field not only for your sake but the safety of others around you, helps make everyone’s job a lot less stressful LOL!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@thetheoryguy5544
@thetheoryguy5544 Жыл бұрын
That's sick! I'm studying for my ETC at my local Training school, want to do commercial work and maybe some residential. Industrial seems intimidating to me but I do enjoy learning about it.
@yikes710
@yikes710 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because let's trust the guy who calls it PC instead of "a" PC lmfao actual weirdo behavior
@elamriti
@elamriti Жыл бұрын
all you need to know is if they offer 10 year waranty
@ITbrokenbones
@ITbrokenbones 2 жыл бұрын
First time PC builder here, I have NO idea what I'm doing or what to buy or what all the FRICKIN ABBREVIATIONS MEAN but your vidieos are helping me so so much, you are way too underrated.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It's a lot I know! Glad we can help. And if you haven't seen it yet check out our PC Parts Explained 2022 video featured on the channel page for a starting point
@JonatanXaD
@JonatanXaD 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, I just wanna tell you, that the information here saved me. I just bought a XPG 850w core reactor (which is a completely unknown brand here in Argentina) and I was between but that PSU or a 850w from Redragon (which is fairly known here, mainly for low prices and relatively medium or poor performances on all products) that was around 10 dollars lower. According to the psucultists, the XPG core reactor one is yellow meaning "Best units in the tier. High quality and performance proven by professional reviews". While all Redragon psu's are listed as E tier "avoid". I'm not the biggest tech guy or engineer, and knowing that psu's experts or enthusiasts do this kind of work, while also give the information for free is really cool! Today I'm gonna sleep NOT thinking if my Redragon psu is gonna explode or not (I'm exaggerating but it is a big relief) Thank you Jason for keeping us updated, today you saved me!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! This is a great story! Crisis averted! :)
@Luuqas
@Luuqas 2 жыл бұрын
Que grande, yo tambien estaba entre esas dos, y termine yendo por la XPG, 0 problema y se siente de super calidad, recomendadisima
@JonatanXaD
@JonatanXaD 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luuqas Yo la recibo mañana, mi estabilidad emocional depende totalmente de cuantos fps me tire con el monitor nuevo jaja
@SpaceLion949
@SpaceLion949 2 жыл бұрын
Adata o XPG solo hace el branding, el fabricante de ese modelo es CWT. Siempre hay que investigar el producto específico, sin importar la marca. En el caso de las fuentes red dragon, consisten en un modelo desactualizado y son el equivalente a usar una papa de fuente.
@arthurmann578
@arthurmann578 2 жыл бұрын
Also, be careful of those "Taliban approved" PSUs' by Gigabyte that tend to explode if you even LOOK at them the wrong way! They are probably still out there in high numbers! 😲😂😂 PS: Steve at Gamers Nexus did some good reviews on them!
@miennam8
@miennam8 2 жыл бұрын
Good video! The psu is probably one of the most confusing component in a pc
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and there are so few guides on how to buy one for your build. I hope this helps the community!
@purcelive
@purcelive 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close brother
@BREEZYM6015
@BREEZYM6015 2 жыл бұрын
PSU? PC? What are those? 😄 I've got nothing to lose by buying a $35 non rated power supply.
@SpaceLion949
@SpaceLion949 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel sadly, most people like to use very general criteria to choose their PSU, as you mentioned. Wattage and 80 plus certification. However, I believe there should be a real certification that let you know how good the PSU is on an easy way. You can't expect every1 to be tech-savvy or technical enough. Hopefully, people find this amazing guide.
@pixiesworld6367
@pixiesworld6367 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Hey it's good to know that you explained well about the cable extensions because they told me never to mix cables from different psu and I was afraid that the extensions would make a short circuit or something hahaha
@watersMO
@watersMO 2 жыл бұрын
I recently pulled the plug on a 12-year-old Corsair VX450; it was still running fine but it wasn't going to support a modern GPU. I went with an XPG Core Reactor 750w for $105 CAD. It's overkill for me today (unless I miraculously win a 3080) but I'm counting on it to last me the length of its 10-year warranty. Other PSUs I was considering were the Coolermaster V750 Gold V2, and the Corsair RM750x (2021).
@jackmchaledj
@jackmchaledj Жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, Just wanted to let you know that I found this video super helpful! I was going to buy an ADX 750W PSU but was sceptical as the build quality wasn’t great even though it was 80+ Gold. After watching your video I decided to go with the Cougar GEX 750W 80+ Gold for my build and will be able to sleep peacefully without being afraid of my PC exploding!
@petroleum3707
@petroleum3707 Жыл бұрын
looking into owning my first pc and building it myself and this series has absolutely guided me through, thank you for supplying so many options in the description it really helps me understand what about a specific model is good so if i wanted to pick something slightly more expensive for an upgrade i can do so with relative confidence not exactly sure which psu to pick just yet because im terrified of frying my system but ill probably come up with something
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad we can help with your first build! One you identify the wattage you need using the method here its easy, you can expand the description to see links to the models we recommend, and/or check models you are looking at on the PSU Cultist list linked to the video (:
@petroleum3707
@petroleum3707 Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel i did! a lot of the models in the mid price range werent available in australia but after doing some research i think im going to go with the rmx 650x, its b-range on PSU cultists, only a little above 100 usd and the 650 W should be more than safe for my
@gabzsy4924
@gabzsy4924 2 жыл бұрын
Another AWESOME A tier PSU for those not living in the US with a great price to quality ratio is the XPG Core Reactor series. Fully modular with all Japanese components, it's been tested by third party companies and even youtubers and it's consistently one of the best picks for lower budgets for people like me in South America. I'm not a big fan of the looks, prefer the more sober looks of a Corsair PSU but my PC has a power supply shroud anyway so it doesn't even matter.
@skiba789
@skiba789 Жыл бұрын
Just built my first PC using your help! This vid has come at the right time since I want to replace PSU cables to fix all the cable spaghetti.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your first build, so glad we could help you! Timing is everything :) Thanks for watching.
@DyingDarkLight
@DyingDarkLight 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first custom prebuilt. I'm still very new to this and got a bronze C PSU only to see all this 80plus stuff and saw people basically saying I might as well put a bomb in my PC if I was going bronze. Felt a lil panicked but this helped clear things up. I love learning about this PC world, there is so many possibilities, but because of that I find people become die hard and fight for their system configuration and components, that I am reminded of the stupid Ps vs Xbox argument. It's unfortunate because it scares new consumers from making reasonable choices and instead blow money on something that is overkill and will never fully use.
@wolfwilkopter2231
@wolfwilkopter2231 Жыл бұрын
Bronze doesnt blow up your system per se, but it can achieved more easily by using cheaper shorter lasting components. So it might blow much earlier or shows sign of weakening much faster than higher rated better quality units. When your only 2 year old PSU switches off, when your GPU shifts into high gear, then you know you bought crap. ;) And when you use a higher tier GPU, lets say an 4070, 4080 or so (im on a RTX 3080 Aorus Master 12GB with up to 420Watts under heavy load), you simply dont go bronze, if you have to pay your own bills and dont earn 6figures with the rising prices and all. Efficiency matters, especially if you use it much and your wallet isnt overflowing with money. Gold is standard nowadays for a reason and very affordable and you dont cheap out on a PSU as your entire rig depends on it, not only efficiency but also safety wise. Just to keep it in mind, when the need for a replacement or upgrade arises. :)
@edwin4625
@edwin4625 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video dude! Yes, I'm your twin PC guy. But I just want to say is that, explanation videos like this go a very long way with beginners and a greater reminder for experienced builders. I understood everything and just gained more knowledge on the topic because of you, thank you as always. ( 11:13 For those wondering, with most browsers, hold down the 'CTRL button with the letter F' on your keyboard to pull the search bar up and type in keywords that might exist on the current website you are using. )
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Hi PC twin! Thank you for the feedback and for the tip for viewers!
@leoh18
@leoh18 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I was running a Ryzen 7 5800X + SSD+ Nvidia RTX 3080 OC with a 750W PSU, everything went well until I've decided to add an ASUS high speed WIFI to one of the PCI express, then I started noticing in the most demanding games how the Graphic Card on the most demanding scnenes decreases the power consuming almost 50% , I've changed the PSU to an 1000W and now everything went back to normal...
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing! Glad you got what you need now
@numbandnotvibingrn6641
@numbandnotvibingrn6641 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I got same specs but an 850w psu, once I boot it up, I pray it runs man, or else I'll pull the same 1000w psu thing!
@stance1x
@stance1x Жыл бұрын
What 1000w do you use? i really dont wanna blow my pc lol and have the same specs
@kamilfingr371
@kamilfingr371 2 жыл бұрын
I ran R7 5800x and RTX 3080 with Seasonic focus gold 650. Everything was fine in idle and low demanding stuff, but in in very demanding game scenes (such as in CP 2077 or Witcher III) PC suddenly shut down after some time. So I bought EVGA Supernova G6 850W and everything is fine now. So don't underestimate with what power supply you run your PC.
@GuidoDePalma
@GuidoDePalma 2 жыл бұрын
Efficiency is not directly related to quality, BUT most platinum and titanium PSU are of the highest quality (and price). Also, titanium certification considers also 10% efficiency, which is very important for light jobs (such as browsing, office etc).
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought up the golden sample loophole for certification. That along with a few companies that change parts without making a clear distinction between what are probably different models. Not as bad as the ssd market though.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Frustrating and it confuses a lot of people into buying bad products
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 2 жыл бұрын
Eh,even cheapest no name SSDs are good enough for most casual gamers. Better then any HDD. For serious gamers and content creators and those with important memories, more caution is required , I guess. But that's why places like this exist.
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameslordXY issue isn't if it's good enough, it's getting what you paid for. I do agree that even DRAM-less drives nowadays are good enough but I should know that the sdd is dram-less up front
@sfrichy
@sfrichy 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video for a noob. And so digestable. I'm heading straight for the build a pc playlist.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed and hope the list is helpful!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Cosair HXi series. Have three in multiple builds. I also really like the fact that they're very easy to make custom cables for because they don't have a lot of splits and no pesky inline capacitors. But I'm curious if the new design has the same pinout as the older blue units.
@GuidoDePalma
@GuidoDePalma 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old "blue" HXi which will be pensioned when atx3 units come out in a decent number. It's been in service flawlessly for 10 years.
@arandomcommenter412
@arandomcommenter412 Жыл бұрын
Three?!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench Жыл бұрын
@@GuidoDePalma Yep, I have three of those. Just bought the new HX1500i, which is not ATX3, but they have the Type-4 to 12VHPWR cable and I'm not concerned about running the HX1500i with any configuration regardless of that. However, they have a new PSU, the RM1000x Shift, that seems to be branded as ATX3 but does not have the 12VHPWR connector on the PSU. Which is fine because two 8-pins are rated for more power than the 12VHPWR and the ATX3 features can be implemented with the old connectors as well.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench Жыл бұрын
@@arandomcommenter412 Yep... an HX750i in my server, another HX750i on a test bench and an HX1000i in my primary system though I'm building a new one right now which will have an HX1500i, and I'll find somewhere for the 1000i to go.
@Rafalucija
@Rafalucija Жыл бұрын
Incredible amount of vital information compressed inside a 20 minute video, thank you Jason
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
@Rafalucija
@Rafalucija Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Btw here's an idea for a future video, ATX 3.0 PSU's for those of us who don't to fiddle around with Nvidia power adapters! Would you by any chance have a few recommendations for a modern ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0 PSU? I've seen the Cultists tier list that you recommended and a few other lists but they all seem outdated without the latest ATX 3.0 units which I really want, it's been a bit of a nightmare to find a PSU for my magnum opus build with a 4090 and 13900K. I'm guessing I need like 1200W or 1350W for it, if I would like an option to upgrade to something like a 5090 in the future maybe.
@michaelrice2156
@michaelrice2156 2 жыл бұрын
I recently built my current PC and bought a Enermax Revolution D.F. 850. I was happy to see that not only it was A-Tier on the Cultist list, but it was also highly rated by KZbinr content makers such as yourself. What I was surprised about with the PSU was the amount of lube needed to fit it in the case I purchased! Not all ATX cases are created equal when it comes to the PSU enclosure.
@-opus
@-opus 2 жыл бұрын
Width and height shouldn't be a problem, no doubt there are a lot of dodgy cases out there though.
@michaelrice2156
@michaelrice2156 2 жыл бұрын
@@-opus It's a Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact ATX Mid Tower case. I tried a different power supply (albeit under powered) which fit without issue.
@-opus
@-opus 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrice2156 sounds like someone's QA isn't adhering to standards too well.
@ahmadm5873
@ahmadm5873 2 жыл бұрын
You're like thw Better Call Saul for PCs and i like it .. great content as always really enjoy your vids.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Better Call PC Builder! (;
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, while power efficiency might not be significant to most people, higher-rated units usually achieve that, at least in part, by using better parts. Yes, better designs as well, but that counts, too. I stick with EVGA and SeaSonic for the most part, but I have also used Thermaltake. The only PSU I've ever had fail was a low-end Corsair. Superflower makes a lot of PSUs under license for other brands.
@larry-uq9gy
@larry-uq9gy 2 жыл бұрын
can you tell the model of the corsair psu that failed, i am interested to know. As i am planning to go with corsair RM series psu for my new build. thx
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
@@larry-uq9gy Sure. It was a 2014/15 model CX750. After about 10 months of use, it developed what appeared to be wide output fluctuations at 12V, which produced some fascinating game play oddities. Corsair replaced it under warranty. The replacement unit has been absolutely fine and was powering a test bench just a couple of days ago.
@larry-uq9gy
@larry-uq9gy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rangersmith4652 good to know thx. btw do you have any experience with Deepcool pq750m, it's also a tier a unit but its a bit cheaper than the corsair rm750. i am building a pc with r5 5600 non x and rx 6800 and 165hz 1080p monitor. sorry for the bother.😇
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
@@larry-uq9gy I've never used any Deepcool PSU, so no opinion at all. For anything other than basic home or business computing use, I almost always use EVGA Supernova or Seasonic Focus.
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 2 жыл бұрын
Neither evga nor Corsair actually make their own PSUs. Some of EVGas are made by Seasonic.
@83Bongo
@83Bongo 2 жыл бұрын
Recommended PSU requirements are often overkill. Amd recommend 650w for a 6700xt, yet my pc with 100% cpu + gpu usage, monitor, speakers, desk lamp, phone chargers, all running, pulled 360w from the wall. And max power draw over a several week period of normal use was about 330w.
@NotThatGuyJD
@NotThatGuyJD 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite budget option these days is the corsair Cx650M While the cultist list is good enough for most, there are some issues with where some PSUs are classed. Although there's no drastic issues where it's stuff that'll kill your PC that is well rated on the list.
@sugarhoney2586
@sugarhoney2586 2 жыл бұрын
got the same psu, just died today..only after 6 month use
@DM-eq4rs
@DM-eq4rs 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video long time. Thank you Jason, love your content.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!!
@Slickman2006
@Slickman2006 2 жыл бұрын
I think the ToughPower TF1 is an underrated unit. It has a ridiculous amount of watts at 1550 but Hardware Busters actually rates the TF1 higher than the HX1500i and it is smaller a well.
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 Жыл бұрын
I remember my first psu back in the day was "80 Plus Certified" and I thought that was really neat. It died after 2-3 years.
2 жыл бұрын
As a beginner in pc building, I can say that the psu has definetly been the hardest component to choose! I have trouble figuring out what wattage I need, what brands and series are good... all of this under the fear that if you pick a psu of bad quality your entire system might be destroyed, but at the same time trying not to break the bank... it's tough. But your video definetely helps, thanks a lot. Currently, I'm in between picking a cw650 for my rtx 2060 pc, or a tx650. Some people claim the former is of bad quality, others say it's fine, but everyone agrees the tx is better. However, it's also two times more expensive...
2 жыл бұрын
Update: got an RM650x
@Sky_elf
@Sky_elf 2 жыл бұрын
@ W choice my brother got the 850 and its amazing. Great decision
@visceraeyes525
@visceraeyes525 2 жыл бұрын
you dont really need to worry about a psu frying your pc or anything, more like having enough power so that your pc doesnt constantly shhutdown/restart during intense gaming or intense overclocking. only a small amount of psu actually catch on fire and theyre rare occurances from reputable manufacturers which you could find out before buying from reading comments or reviews on a psu you want to buy, otherwise all the unknown brand psu's are just not worth ever buying anyway
@TheGulfryd
@TheGulfryd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sky_elf wheres the comma
@adaptercrash
@adaptercrash 2 жыл бұрын
Go for a brand that only makes psu and cases?
@geoffreystraw5268
@geoffreystraw5268 2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday morning I was thinking to myself... Man I really wish Jason from PC Builder would make a comprehensive PSU video talking about the LTT psu list. I love this channel! lol Thanks Jason!!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Like minds! So glad you enjoyed and hope it was helpful!
@geoffreystraw5268
@geoffreystraw5268 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Very you rock man!
@rogued3mon414
@rogued3mon414 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, this is another great video. But I just want tell you that as someome who lives here in the Philippines, or somebody from Australia and the UK, the best cheap psu that anyone can buy at those areas is the MSI MAG A-BN 650w. Its a non modular psu that sells here for 60 bucks/ Php 3000 and this can power up to a 6700xt/ 3070. Its not available in the US and I dunno why.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@Lukiel666
@Lukiel666 2 жыл бұрын
EVGA 650GQ. Because it was 80+ gold, semi modular and also importantly had a 5 year warranty. I look for 80+ Bronze at least combined with 5 or more years warranty. Also I had been watching prices and it was on sale over 30% off.
@eivis13
@eivis13 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be that guy and point out that an electrical engineer usually does high voltage (+1kV) stuff, while an electronics engineer usually does fairly low voltage (usually in the realms of 0.1V to 20v after converting from mains voltage (120@60hz or 240@50hz))
@theoldpcgamer77
@theoldpcgamer77 2 жыл бұрын
For my 12900k and rtx 3090 both stock i use a 1200w Corsair ax 1200i from ages ago. This seems to just fit your calculations perfectly. I might swap to an rtx 4080 if i wanted to in the future so that psu should still be good. After this build i think i'll get a new psu in 3yrs to support these new modern connections and protections upcoming.
@GuidoDePalma
@GuidoDePalma 2 жыл бұрын
great platform.
@_ctpaxop
@_ctpaxop Жыл бұрын
You are better than 90% of the teachers I had during long years of my education. I'm 42.
@RVail623
@RVail623 2 жыл бұрын
AFAIK, only "ATX 3.0" PSU's will include support for the extra "feedback loop" wiring that support "extra power on demand" being scheduled for the "soon to be released" NVidia 4000 series GPU's. Older ATX 2.xx PSU's would still work if using adapter cables, but would forfeit the power boosting feature. ATX 3.0 PSU's have yet to be offered for retail sale, as of today: September 2, 2022.
@ExPsy
@ExPsy 2 жыл бұрын
The feedback loop is optional and is meant to tighten voltage regulation further. It makes zero difference in practice and has nothing to do with the power output of the PSU.
@RVail623
@RVail623 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExPsy Let's just wait for full reviews, after the NVidia 4000 series GPU's are out, and see whether any differences occur when comparing older ATX 2.xx PSU's with ATX 3.xx PSU's in actual gaming usage. Why would they bother making new PSU designs, if there was no tangible benefit? Update: Seasonic appears to now be offering ATX 3.0 PSU's; may depend on geographic location. Four models, starting at 1,000 Watts & in gold & platinum versions.
@imverytired1164
@imverytired1164 Жыл бұрын
Always great to come back to this, since I often overlook power supplies.
@Olav_Hansen
@Olav_Hansen 2 жыл бұрын
You can say that the difference between bronze and gold is only 10%, but that makes the energy loss half. The ratings generally pay for themselves over the years even if it only reduces the gaming power bill by 5-10%.
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun Жыл бұрын
the difference between bronze and gold is 4%. The big issue is that 80plus != quality.
@Olav_Hansen
@Olav_Hansen Жыл бұрын
@@cjmillsnun 92-85=7% efficiency 7/85=8.2% relative difference. I said between 5-10% savings, turns out it's between 7 and 8.2 depending on calculation. Bugger off with your faulty corrections.
@cablesalad3168
@cablesalad3168 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, this video is precisely what I've been seraching for!
@sarmatiko
@sarmatiko 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, this video releases just two days after I bought my 650W Super Flower Legion GX Gold PRO 😅 Luckily, your 2021 video and that Tier List helped me quite a lot. I would have picked EVGA PCU most likely (something like GT or SuperNOVA G6) but unfortunately EVGA doesn't ship to cargo forwarder addresses while having best discounts on it's own PCU's (and Amazon\Newegg discounts are not always that good). While reading that tier list and related discussions I also figured that EVGA uses outsource companies to produce their PCU's (like FSP and SuperFlower in the past) so when I saw B-tier 650W SuperFlower for 52$ I jumped the gun and bought it. Also checked my local retail offers for under 100$ and they all were from E (Avoid) and F (Replace immediately) tier. Yikes!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you got what you needed! (:
@lookitsrain9552
@lookitsrain9552 2 жыл бұрын
650 GT is a solid psu made by HEC
@danortiz
@danortiz 2 жыл бұрын
Seasonic, FSP group and Super Flower are great
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 2 жыл бұрын
@@danortizi usually stick to Seasonic PSUs whether it has their branding on it or not.
@cjdrix
@cjdrix Жыл бұрын
Hello, how's the psu performance and quality? Did you encounter any problems? I already ordered the same model.
@akosimarellen7574
@akosimarellen7574 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you remind me of Saul Goodman. I'm sold!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Better Call PC Builder!
@pjanoo6973
@pjanoo6973 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing info, I was brainwashed into only buying 80 gold psu's and just recently bought a 3070ti and was using a 650w PSU and my PC is constantly just shutting down and I'm assuming it's drawing too much power. Time to upgrade and this video is very helpful.
@KarolMurawski
@KarolMurawski Жыл бұрын
7:02 80 Plus Titanium wastes 3.2x less energy than 80 Plus Bronze. Maybe in US this wasted energy cost is negligible, but in EU it is currently not. For me 80 Plus Gold (or Platinum) is a perfect balance between PSU cost and wasted electricity cost.
@seanquiben
@seanquiben 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever i see PC builds here on youtube I always check what PSU they recommend and look at the list you gave. Very helpful site
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It sure is! Glad we could help (:
@zrodger2296
@zrodger2296 Жыл бұрын
Just now building my first PC in over two decades and this really helped! Great video, and thank you!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Best wishes on the build!!
@Dx41234
@Dx41234 2 жыл бұрын
sir i really thankyou for all your content about guiding newbie to pc experience. your video really simple and much information thats easy to understand, thankyou so much!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! So glad it was helpful (:
@blindguardian8599
@blindguardian8599 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the level of information here is above 9000, best PSU buying guide I've seen. I've bought a 750W Seasonic Focus GX for the pc I built for my nephew 2 years ago and his PC survived till today, despite frequent, almost daily power outages in the rural area he lives in. That was enough for me to go for my personal build with the same Focus GX PSU this spring, a 1000W one, hoping that I get to upgrade my 3060 ti to a better card when 40 series launch.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed! And thanks for sharing
@gustlightfall
@gustlightfall 2 жыл бұрын
Can never go wrong with Seasonic. I also live in a country with unstable power, the focus series never died on me when others have.
@paweostrowski6151
@paweostrowski6151 2 жыл бұрын
I was searching for good PSU lately and You just posted this video. Right on time. Thank You
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Like minds! Hope this is helpful!
@lifefindsaway483
@lifefindsaway483 Жыл бұрын
10/10 helpful. Will watch again. In my next build, I'd say about 80% of the parts will heavily informed by your research. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Other channels have great in depth content, but when theory turns into spending, here is where I go now.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad its helpful! Thank you for the feedback we really appreciate it
@joshbrobud8358
@joshbrobud8358 2 жыл бұрын
Been using a Corsair HX 750 for about 13 years, 2 builds, and it's still going strong.
@NoBakwas
@NoBakwas 2 жыл бұрын
"You don't need to be an electrical enginner to buy a good PSU" Me, an electrical engineer:👁👄👁
@fred306801
@fred306801 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one and then I find this video. I really do not know Jack about a computer. I looked on ebay and Amazon and did not find many of the psu you mentioned in this video. I was talking to a guy, and he told me the power supplies rated with the 80 would be for power spikes. Over the spring I think the computer got hit by lighting. I replaced the SSD and Ram. And it was working. Then tonight the fan in the power supply sounded like it was going bad. And it would stop working. A moment or two later it would spring to life. Swapped it out with the one that came with the computer, it fired up and seemed to be OK. I think it was the original psw. I had replaced it because the fan sounded like it was going bad. It was a 400 watt. The one that got hit by lighting, I had bought it about 2 years ago. Corsair CV550.
@kishisushii
@kishisushii Жыл бұрын
I just finished watching the video. Decided to check the PSU Cultist Tier List to find the current PSU of my 2 PC's. Both of them are in F Tier. I have to change it immediately. Huge thanks to this video for letting me know about it!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Oh no! So glad we could help!
@YoonJintae98
@YoonJintae98 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to leave a comment here to support this videos algorithms, this vid is really useful. Thank you again!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We really appreciate that thank you! Glad you enjoyed
@yashkhd1100
@yashkhd1100 2 жыл бұрын
your videos by far are best in terms of providing stuff that matters in very crystal clear manner...!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! So glad they are helpful and thanks for watching
@alexandermckay8594
@alexandermckay8594 2 жыл бұрын
I have an EVGA G2 750W. Superb unit. This was the first of the new series when EVGA decided to revamp their product lines to compete with Corsair 8 years ago and found SuperFlower to make these. Took the market by storm. If you're comfortable doing research, ignore the stats. Find a site that will tell you who makes the unit you're looking at. The dirty little secret is that the vast amount of brands do not make their products. Take a look at EVGA. They "make" a ton of different psu's and yet, there's a huge difference and different supplier for each. You want a SuperFlower unit? Only about 10 of all their units are. They also have Seasonic units, HEC, CWT and others. That BS is not that great even though it looks just like the G# series.
@sinediss
@sinediss Жыл бұрын
i have Zalman LX-600w for 6 years with not even 1 problem.. its running perfect! :)
@SoleEpiphany
@SoleEpiphany 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, keep them coming! Just getting back into PC gaming and planning a build so soaking up as much info as I can. Yourself, Nexus and Canucks really give us amazing content from what I’ve seen so far!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad we can help! Best wishes on your build!
@HopeProphecy
@HopeProphecy 2 жыл бұрын
I often hear that Corsair makes the best power supplies. Any thoughts on the HX1200? (Corsair 1200w platinum)
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@clc6433
@clc6433 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably catch hell for this, but the tech industry needs to pause a bit until it gets power consumption under control. We're wrecklessly consuming an exponentially increasing rate of electricity for less and less return on investment at the sake of gouging our resources. We also need to make strides with regard to DC power sources; the devices we're producing are outpacing our capacity to reasonably power them. Great video though. I was always a bit fuzzy on the difference between single- and multi-railed PSUs, and searches never really clarified things. I'd settled on the assumption that multi was more akin to server systems, Threadripper setups, etc. Thanks!
@theKing-oz2ro
@theKing-oz2ro 2 жыл бұрын
Currently building a PC, these videos couldn't be better timed!
@pablogirola
@pablogirola 2 жыл бұрын
At the minute 3:17 a 12 PIN connector is show (when we are talking about 16 pin connector). It is ok?
@Parry.Hotter
@Parry.Hotter 2 жыл бұрын
Two questions: 1.) At 5:30 you said most modern PSUs are single-rail, so since modern means newer or latest, can I assume that single-rail is (mostly) better than multi-rail? 2.) Why did you pick Straight Power 11 instead of Dark Power Pro 12? Edit: Forgot to say, TYIA.
@alexp5604
@alexp5604 Жыл бұрын
I swear you’re one of the best pc content creator you hit every note I’m thankful for the videos you make they are very helpful
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the great feedback! That means a lot
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that! So happy that you're finding them helpful :)
@Falney
@Falney 2 жыл бұрын
I find the PSU is the hardest part of a PC build purely because finding out voltage requirements can be a pita depending on how available manufacturers make their power requirements.
@NinjaWeedle
@NinjaWeedle Жыл бұрын
Yep, the tier list explains why my ryzen 7700x + 1070 Ti combo constantly trigger the overvolt protection on my EVGA N1 650W PSU (ranked F tier) whenever i put it under a sustained load- looks like it's time to get a new PSU
@thinser
@thinser Жыл бұрын
This video really helped with my PSU selection. It gets straight to the point.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful!
@nicholash8021
@nicholash8021 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is explaining whether or how the multi-rail circuit is divided among the PSU connectors. If some connectors are running on once circuit, and others on another circuit, then can you unintentionally overload one circuit while under-utilizing the other simply by not balancing the use of your available connectors? I see no indication of what rail each connector is tied to on the back of my Corsair HX850.
@oguzhanakyazi
@oguzhanakyazi 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I have problem with my computer. All the components are new in my PC except for PSU. When I open my PC, there is a light turning on in the cabinet called 'cpu' and my pc doesn't start. But my cpu is quite new. Can PSU be the problem here? Also sometimes while I am playing games, my pc sometimes shuts down itself and I see the light in the cabinet called 'cpu' again.
@johntaylor8582
@johntaylor8582 Жыл бұрын
What about the sales statement , Japanese capacitors?
@ChayongkornSingprasong
@ChayongkornSingprasong 2 жыл бұрын
So.. I'm building a PC The estimate watts on PC Part Picker is 562W (x1.5 that gives me 843w) With i7-13700KF and RTX3060 MSI Ventus 3x... 850W PSU in A or B tier should be good right?
@szilu2002
@szilu2002 Жыл бұрын
The PSU cultist list is a great resource!!!
@mahdimalekzadeh6410
@mahdimalekzadeh6410 Жыл бұрын
What about USED PSUs? Should we go for it if we find a good deal? I watched this video looking for the answer. I'd really appreciate it if you'd answer.
@agoogleuser2369
@agoogleuser2369 Жыл бұрын
Today I bought an Apevia 1000W PCIe 5.0 80+ Gold (not modular) for 80 bucks. I'll do some testing on Saturday.
@agoogleuser2369
@agoogleuser2369 Жыл бұрын
Aaaand it's going back to Amazon. A whopping 312mV ripple (difference between bottom and peak voltages) on the 12VHPWR cable whilst benchmarking on Shadow of the Tomb Raider in native 4K max settings. Going to try GAMEMAX 1300W PCIe 5.0 / ATX 3.0 80+ Platinum. Wonder who's the OEM building these PSUs for them. Really liked the fully modular port and cable selection, AURA compatible ARGB, Japanese caps and 10 year warranty for 210 bucks. Wish me luck!
@warkito
@warkito 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I'm impress on how good you explained this, and made it entertaining. Great video!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! So glad you enjoyed
@ErikS-
@ErikS- Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is one hell of a densily packed video which made me learn a lot about PSU's.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Love to hear it, thanks for watching! The more you know!
@videocruzer
@videocruzer Жыл бұрын
Great video, great voice. super easy to understand because you are not a slow talker. Thanks.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
@RaiAndyLightning
@RaiAndyLightning 2 жыл бұрын
I was worried that we won't see the cat, but he appeared at the end. Also very imformative video, thank you for that!
@theinevitable__
@theinevitable__ 2 жыл бұрын
Got myself a EVGA 1000w 80+ platinum just to be future proof for upgrades. Awesome video and really informative Jason! Keep up man!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Glad this was helpful! Feels weird now having to oversize the PSU, but that's the world we're living in!
@theinevitable__
@theinevitable__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel yes specially because parts are becoming more hungry for power overall, it’s crazy lol
@mattrad4993
@mattrad4993 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, excellent video. Very informative and easy to follow. And thank you for the pointer about the Cultist Network tier ratings. (Had no idea that EVGA, who have great products overall, also had a couple lemons that may sizzle your board.)
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful! Yep even good brands have problems sometimes (;
@gscurd75
@gscurd75 2 жыл бұрын
You should not ignore the 80+ rating however it should not be the only think you look at. If you have 2 power supplies from the same popular brand and they are basically the same model (like EVGA G5 and P5) and the only difference you can see is one is rated gold vs platinum then the platinum will have better efficiency. However I would not use it to compare 2 different off brand named units to determine which is better.
@steventjee18
@steventjee18 Жыл бұрын
so at 12:30 your saying some gpu's spike 2.5x in power, is the red devil 6900 XT one of those cards? my pc is crashing cause i see vram in the max and suspect the my pc freezing totally then im having to manually reset it. could that be the issue?
@AB-vp9mi
@AB-vp9mi 2 жыл бұрын
I got myself Corsair's RM1000x 2021. I heard so many good things about them that I just couldn't get any other PSU.
@EclecticianG
@EclecticianG Жыл бұрын
11:12 Note: It is not that easy to search for a particular unit because of how multiple units from the same manufacturer are listed on one line. Search ONLY for the manufacturer, as he said, then look carefully at that line to see if your model's there.
@cthomas2812
@cthomas2812 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1000watt platinum evga P6 for $126 after tax early this summer, soo happy with it. Should be enough for next Gen cards!
@DschungelKatze
@DschungelKatze Жыл бұрын
All my friends are saying that 850 psu is extremely overkill for a 3070 build but I think it's the most safe option here since most of 750 psus cost almost the same anyway (I used that cultists list, didn't search lower that A though). I don't know who's right here but I'm fine as long as I know for sure that the psu wouldn't let me down. I also said that I'd get a 1000 watt minimum when I'm upgrading to a 40 series and have the money and we disagreed hard on that.
@erichagen3617
@erichagen3617 2 жыл бұрын
He’s finally back!
@NimbleBard48
@NimbleBard48 Жыл бұрын
This was the "Go To" video for me in choosing my PSU. I am lucky to have found it. Thanks! (Also, for me it was the Corsair HX850 since I already owned an AX760i and I was very positive about it)
@arthurtwa
@arthurtwa Жыл бұрын
I bought a prebuild pc with a non-modular Game Factor 650w. It is a mexican brand, relatively cheap. My system kept hard freezing everyday (Having to hold down the power to shut it off), while gaming, or by waking up the pc, or by opening any app after leaving it idle. I changed it for an EVGA 750BQ which is a C tier PSU, but I failed to check indepedent reviews and found this PSU is very noisy. The 140mm fan is the loudest noise in my system... but at least my PC has no freezings anymore. So, a piece of advice; even when you check the PSU cultist list, check independent reviews and comments, they might tell you something you want to know.
@peepopoo4387
@peepopoo4387 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I just splurged 200 bucks on a Corsair RM1000x after having my PC shut off multiple times under high loads playing Path of Exile. I was completely lost as to where to start and even had the fun of buying the wrong PSU and realizing it after I plugged in every cable besides the GPU (which needed a 16 pin PCI-e). Don't be like me, guys, do your research first.
@halukiskmen5382
@halukiskmen5382 2 жыл бұрын
I was totally happy with my Corsair RMX850 until i did watch your video and found out through pcpartpicker that i need 1020w to be on the good side :D . Will do an upgrade first thing tomorrow morning with a 1200w psu. Very informative video. Thx a lot and keep up the good work
@airbornesnow4541
@airbornesnow4541 2 жыл бұрын
your vids are presented in such a clear and concise manner. keep up the good work!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@CortezLu84
@CortezLu84 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this video 3 days ago when I bought my PSU. However I was lucky to get a tier C with knowing :). Thanks for the awesome videos !!!
@blameusa7082
@blameusa7082 2 жыл бұрын
big big buy once, bought a EVGA P1000 Plat about 8 years ago..... still enough to run 3 of these 5900x builds.
@SuperFinetty
@SuperFinetty Жыл бұрын
Please tell me .is good corsair CX Series™ CX550F???
@baririzqullah5782
@baririzqullah5782 Жыл бұрын
This video and your channel as a whole are very helpful and answers every question I have, thanks.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you've found it so helpful! And thank you for watching!
@terencedouglas1402
@terencedouglas1402 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video it answered all of my questions and took the guess work out of choosing the right PSU.
@ellebleisch6853
@ellebleisch6853 2 жыл бұрын
This kinda conversation is important I remember when no one talked about it and I came Into building a PC totally blind on this and has issues with my pc..
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! PSU choice is huge
@rockstartech2443
@rockstartech2443 Жыл бұрын
Man. I loved your vid. Very specific even in things, that apparently doesnt matter to a pc expert, but believe me. there are a lot of us . who can be literally fooled thinking that if we have more rgb we get more fps. I mean LITERALLY. So I appreciate you take the time to show the connections so we can learn to build our own pcs. Explaining why something called modular and semi , etc was great too. Modular made me think the psu have modules inside of it which was make me gping nuts i just want my psu and connect it and forget about it.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the video, love that we could help!
@WetPumpkin
@WetPumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so amazing that you respond to every comment and I love it I have been commenting every time
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We sure try! We aren't always able to (sometimes its too much for our two person two cat team lol) but we love getting to chat with the community (:
@JAYP.616
@JAYP.616 Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of ppl lof LLT (which is a great channel). I love this channel! Great info every time!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoy! Thanks for watching.
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