🛑STOP🛑 Buying Bad RAM! Best Ram for PC Gaming 2022 | DDR4 vs DDR5 Gaming

[@PCBuilderChannel]

What memory are you looking to buy? Tell your story in a new comment below!

[@Luna-mo4bp]

you should make a "Stop buying this" series, explaining a lot about of pc components and what to go after. Could potentially save hundreds of dollars for people.

[@mrwang420]

I bought G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (8x2) Dual Channel 3000MHz CL16 DDR RAM Is that good? I have it running on an Asus Tuf Gaming x570 Plus (Wifi) with an AMD 3950x

[@javedrahaman]

Hi Jason. I recently built my system and had a question about ram. I have 16gb (2x8GB) of XPG Spectrix D45G DDR4 ram and have another kit on the way. Will this second kit add well with the original set or is it better to get ram in a kit like a 4x8GB kit?

[@august101]

@@mrwang420 bro… u should get at least 3600 with a beast processor like that. U can get 3600mhz cl16 too from g.skill

[@davidbrennan5]

@@august101 3600mhz is the best for Ryzen. You can get a cl16 kit for 80.00

[@piyushkhengar]

This is exactly what I needed. No other channel offers as comprehensive and educational a guide as this. Thank you, Mr Bear!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Mr Bear says you're welcome! (; So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

[@flamedave9041]

I totaly suppport your meaning. Other people describe hhow good the Ram looks like whis is something that DOES NOT count for me ^^ This Video is very nice made, I am very thanksfull.

[@ifirespondiamstupid7750]

@@310pwn Are you a bot?

[@Joe-lc3sv]

There are some

[@FriezaSucks]

LTT my boy, Linus and crew are also fantastic

[@julianayala3342]

man i wish this channel was a thing back 2016-2017 when i build my first rig, would have made drastically different choices on parts. now that im here now overhauling my whole rig. all i gotta say is i love how explicit you are with explaining things. cheers mate.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much for the great feedback! It means a lot to us. Best of luck with your upgrades! Happy to help

[@reinhardtwilhelm5415]

For most budgets I just throw a basic Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 3200 CL16 kit in there. They’re really cheap and have respectable performance. That’s all most midrange buyers really need.

[@olegb5061]

Or there's a team 3600 C18 avaliable for 55 usually if you'd rather have higher frequency, though they should perform similar

[@reinhardtwilhelm5415]

@@olegb5061 I use those too sometimes, especially for Ryzen builds.

[@LatitudeSky]

One consideration I didn't hear, or may have missed, is physical size. My CPU cooler does not leave a lot of room for fancy RAM with all the heat spreaders that look like trees with branches sticking out, or a samurai helmet. I don’t know how people manage to fit that stuff. For my current system, I went with 32GB Corsair Vengeance LP 3200 CL16 because I knew it would fit. Also knew it would run without issues because my old system also used a similar Corsair LP product and never had any RAM stability issues.

[@lolzlolz69]

LP is for Low Profile and exists for exactly your use case.

[@EmperorQuinking]

Facts Water block here, so i got some low profile redlines

[@ErwinTeunissen]

Good review. Only thing i miss is that faster ram not really improve average fps but specially the low fps. Making games feel smoother. I upgraded 3000mhz cl16 to 3600mhz cl 16 and the difference is noticeable and worth it for me. About 5 to 10% improved low fps. Fps drops to 60 fps now stay above 70. I sold my old ram kit so it only costed me 20$

[@rgbreeding]

Yeah. I was disappointed that wasn't mentioned. Workstation graphic cards have a similar effect to lows, but even more pronounced.

[@naimirfan]

Is 3200 mhz 32gb ram good?

[@lancemcque1459]

This is one of the best RAM break down and recommendations I've seen on KZbin or anywhere else. Jason, you're really knocked this one way Way WAY out of the park!!! Good job.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much Lance! The feedback means a lot to us!

[@chovekb]

So you've seen too little.

[@Cassapphic]

Be extremely careful when reading product descriptions before buying RAM. Because there’s 2 variables you could see something cheap with a good speed but if you don’t read carefully you may miss it having bad timing. I almost made this mistake when I built my first pc recently so I hope it helps someone.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes combo of timings + speed is important. Avoid those cheap 3200 CL20 kits!

[@Cassapphic]

@@PCBuilderChannel I was personally thrown off by 3600 CL18 kits, slightly more expensive than 3200 CL16 budget set I was looking at and thought “why not it’s not much more” then later realised the mistake and rushed to cancel the order and reorder 3200 16

[@TotemoGaijin]

This! When I was younger, I wanted to upgrade my laptop's ram...turns out DIMM doesn't fit in a SODIMM slot, lol.

[@sylvanascake7623]

I just build a pc a few months ago and didnt realize ram speed and timings was important. My ram is 3200 cl22-22-22-25. What do you recommend the timing for 3600mhz cl 16 im planning to upgrade for better performace please help

[@Fiufsciak]

​@@Cassapphic You do realize that these RAMs have the exact same real time delay... right? 3600 CL18 is better, cause it's the same delay with higher frequency.

[@Remu-]

If you want 4000MHz CL16 memory I recommend the Patriot Viper Steel. They only cost $104 at the moment, $15 less than the Ripjaws, and they're Samsung b-die and come with 16-16-16 timings instead of the Ripjaws' 16-19-19. Heck of a deal in my opinion.

[@koreanjew]

That’s b die down bin. Anything downbin will run the speeds and latencies but will come with microstuttering which negates the whole point of overclocking.

[@Remu-]

@@koreanjew Damn I've never heard of that.

[@sylvanascake7623]

@@koreanjew what is the best option if i use xmp profile the straight 16 timings or 16-19-19 pls help im planning to upgrade my ram

[@zenithchan1646]

Bro what 😮 that’s fucking good

[@ians_big_fat_cock5913]

@@koreanjew the fuck are you even talking about. B-die uses BCPD 2133mhz chips with JEDEC 2133/2400 profiles usually. Stop misinforming people lol

[@m4heshd]

Such a well-made video. Everything about this is perfect. No time wasting, excellent and clear presentation, the very likable personality of the presenter, well researched, completes the mentioned topic, and last but not least, an adorable kitty. Absolute satisfaction.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! So glad you enjoyed (:

[@TrumanBurbankFE]

Because I wanted dual rank, I went for Gskill Trident Z DDR4 3600 CL16, 2×16 Gb. DDR4s were much cheaper than DDR5s and faster so a motherboard Z690 with DDR4 were the way to go.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Nice!

[@infectedsushi234]

I'd definitely recommend these rams since they look good and for 175$ only!.

[@neomis0119]

DDR5 is much faster than DDR4, if you watch most videos you see DDR4 beating out DDR5 except in some cases, this has been due to a few things, most importantly as DDR5 is new most MOBO manufacturers have not done well at taking advantage of the new tech, since even the latest DDR5 tests I have had 5 bios updates on my z690 hero, all of them have been to increase DDR5 performance, I have seen very large increases which I know one KZbinr is working on showing the updates in the following weeks.

[@jc.1191]

@@neomis0119 Cool

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

@221722171 10k? Lmao hell no, its already significantly faster, just not always worth it

[@nitrox272]

One thing that confused me during my PC part gathering, I had 2 identical 2x8gb kits that were 3600 CL16 from the same retailer, when I later found a sale page from them with a similar kit with the same specs, brand and all for less than I got my kits, but it was a separate SKU. I researched and found out they had different timings but still CL16. The kits I had were 16-19-19-39 (Hynix die), and the kit on the sale page was 16-16-16-36 (Samsung die). Naturally, I returned my kits and bought 2 of the kits with the tighter timings for cheaper.

[@Tadders]

Yes 100% the SKU variations tied with merchant obfuscation/ignorance is the hardest part when it comes to RAM. Did you notice a difference with the Samsung SKU?

[@nitrox272]

@@Tadders The Hynix version SKU was F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC, whereas the Samsung SKU was F4-3600C16D-16GTZN, with no 'C' on the end. I have no regrets 👍

[@balzinderchhabra8804]

To add to that every time Chelsea played against Barca in that period we were always the better team.

[@bwboy92]

Great contents as always. It sure helps to explain the terminology of all the DRAM and what the gamers need to know. It will be great to have a bit more information for the Laptop gamers because those SODIMM are definitely different from the desktop users. But like you said, DRAM importance are under the GPU, CPU and even possibly motherboard in terms of gaming performance.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the great feedback! We did actually have a section going more into laptop memory but we cut if for time I'm afraid. Always hard to know how much info to throw at people in a video. Jareds Tech does have a great video on laptop memory we recommend if people need more info too.

[@AllThingsComplex]

0:10 I cringed a little when I saw the motherboard bend, parts can be ripped of the motherboard like that, and you wouldn't even know it. Do it on a hard surface.

[@Mau_S]

Built a pc recently with those kingston fury renegade sticks that you showed in your video and I'm still in love with the way they look and preform. 1% lows are better than most benchmarks that I watched, so imo spending the extra money on the 3600mhz cl16 was worth the extra bucks. Finding good looking ram for my all black build was kind of a task lol, but these sticks are nice and I'm thinking of upgrading to 32GB in the near future!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

nice!!

[@chevchelios3118]

@@PCBuilderChannel I've got them too but I feel like they don't like my motherboard at all constantly crashing. Motherboard b450 A Pro max paired with AMD 5800x and 3080 rtx

[@manh2704]

@@chevchelios3118 Damn man that’s really unfortunate. Ever figure it out? That’s a lot of power so is your PSU sufficient?

[@GurujiFake12345]

@@chevchelios3118 i have Ryzen 7 5800x with B450M Aii ASUS prime and want to buy 16GB stick so tell me what clock speed is good for 5800x ? 3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl16 or cl18 ?

[@Noname-oq9mk]

Love from India 🇮🇳

[@ericepperson8409]

Thank you for making this video. It's been a while since I've seen anyone make a good RAM roundup. Great points regarding considerations for a gaming PC. One thing I do want to point out regarding rigs for Professional content creation. If you're building a PC for these reasons, then stability should the 2nd highest consideration behind capacity on what settings you should use for memory. It doesn't help if you gain a few seconds on your rendering times if the PC is crashing regularly. Even if you game on the same PC, the loss of a few fps is worth getting reliable performance when doing paid (or practicing to get paid) work.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Totally agree on this, and that is why for the video editing PCs we've built I've talked about the speed vs stability issue in those videos!

[@crossed82]

Great video, very informative! I just dropped 32 GB of 3600 CL16 G.SKILL Trident Neo Z RAM in my gaming rig after a near full system upgrade -- while also swapping from an Intel CPU to an Ryzen -- and I'm beyond pleased with the results. I went with the 32 GB of RAM due to I'm a sim racer, and use a lot of extra peripherals and VR headset, while also future proofing my system... hopefully.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Wonderful! So glad we could help

[@thealandude9146]

Finally got my setup built not long ago and your channel really helped me build confidence on pc building, thank you for the great content!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help! Congrats on your build!!

[@marcustaylor670]

Best hardware reviewer I've seen in recent times, as an overclocker I've run the benches and games to test what he says myself. Not like those BS promoters trying to waste your money on other channels.

[@teipkep]

The main reason I upgrade my pc, is literally because I DO WANT to have tabs open while playing. WTF people still recommend 16 gb in late 2022? Who you recommend it for? Your 7 year old son? Here is common setup.. yes common: 3 monitors.. twitch chat, chrome tabs open, waiting for league of legends queue, playing heartstone while waiting. Having world of warcraft open in background for social and guild management. Having discord open. This is COMMON!!!!!

[@Ethan-Smith]

These videos are so good man. I can't tell you how much I have learned over the last year or so about PC parts and PC building that I just didn't obsorb or understand from watching other videos. I've put together 3 killer PCs in the last year, one of which being a very tiny ITX build with the help of a lot of these videos. I appreciate your content!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad I could help!!! :)

[@theKing-oz2ro]

These videos are incredible. As someone with no education or experience in this field, this has made shopping for parts and understanding how to build efficiently super easy to understand. Thank you!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for the great feedback! It really means a lot to us. So glad we could help!

[@ardeof]

Nice work covering dual channel and dual rank, as well as RAM in general. One thing you forgot to mention is the rare quad and tri channel motherboards.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you! We were only talking about intel 10th-12th gen and Ryzen 3000 -5000 in this video (;

[@masterzed1]

im going to memorize all your videos right now ... very good info and not very dificult to understand for non english speakes (like me)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

so glad they are helpful!

[@marblewaves]

this is the most helpful of channel i’ve come across thank you

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Happy to hear that! Thanks for watching

[@marklionheart7715]

Having all the RAM slots populated(starting from 4x8GB) and a Vega series is a nice combo because if you have even a Ryzen CPU you can use HBCC and SAM.

[@AnotherSpaceCowBoy]

Pretty sure anything different than single dual makes you lost perfs. It's even indicated on MB websites as a warning.

[@balzinderchhabra8804]

I love Pep, got nothing against the City players...they're all good lads. I agree with your points..people have very short memories in football.

[@spoopyb2069]

Recently discovered your channel and it has helped me out in cutting costs wherever I can without sacrificing performance, thanks! Quick question: how much am I going to sacrifice in terms of performance by going with the 5600G instead of the X? Not doing so because of its integrated graphics, but as an emergency option in case my AMD GPU's drivers fail (I've heard horror stories in the subreddit) and don't have to wait weeks to use my PC again.

[@PopBunny8899]

Why not go for a i5 12400 or i3 12100

[@spoopyb2069]

@@PopBunny8899 lmfao i already bought a b550 motherboard and it's too late to refund it

[@PopBunny8899]

@@spoopyb2069 oh ok np

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Watch our 5600g build video on the channel, we benchmark it compared to other options

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

Bad idea taking such a hit on cpu just as a backup. On Intel side you do not sacrifice anything to get an igpu, on AMD side you jump backwards half a gen.

[@libertyprime9307]

I notice that over 3200/CL16, it seems like most benchmarks only leave low single digit fps on the table by getting better RAM, and most times you're GPU bound anyway. Also I think when you said it's not worth chasing dual-rank, you mean quad-rank. Dual rank is what we'll have with only 2 single-rank dimms.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I think you're confused on dual rank vs dual channel, watch that section of the video again. You are correct that for the vast majority of people, 3200 CL16 is the answer!

[@libertyprime9307]

@@PCBuilderChannel I wasn't confusing rank and channel, I rewatched and it confused me because when you say "dual rank", you must be referring to each stick being dual rank. But I heard that as dual rank sum total. I'm used to x2 dual rank (or x4 single rank) being referred to as a quad rank setup.

[@michaelschwader7944]

@@libertyprime9307 Dual rank is one of the following two: 1.) Two sticks of ram with ram on BOTH sides of the DIMM. 2.) Four sticks of ram with ram on ONLY on side of the DIMM.

[@libertyprime9307]

@@michaelschwader7944 Say we've got 2 sticks of RAM, each stick is single rank. 1+1=2, we have 2 ranks total = dual rank. Or 2 sticks of RAM with each stick being dual rank. 2+2=4, we have 4 ranks total = quad rank.

[@wayland7150]

Unless you make a series error you're fine with two sticks of 3200 RAM. I don't think it makes much difference.

[@JamesWatkins07]

Great video! Nice to see someone cut through the hype and help the first time or unsure builder.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching

[@thesolidsnek8096]

I am about to build my first pc with the coming 7900 xtx and the 7600x cpu and i had literally no idea about anything before but after watching you dor a week straight i am pretty sure i am set for this job. Thank you for everything!

[@gscurd75]

Had the money and decided to go the overkill route to see what it could do. Got 4000 CL14. While benchmarks were a bit faster, it was not really noticeable. But hey now if someone wants to know how any specific speed works compared to another speed, I can just set my memory to that speed in the bios and tell them. :)

[@gscurd75]

@@iamnotanundercoverfederalagent Some do. Some don't. I got lucky and was able to run it fine. If it didn't then I would have kicked it down a little slower.

[@ArnoldGaming]

For intel 3200mhz cl16, may seem that it has same first word latency than 3600mhz cl18, but the subtimings are slightly faster and are often same price or less than the 3600mhz cl18. For amd 3600mhz cl18, amd cpus usually prefer 3600mhz or so. 3600mhz cl16 is also on the table, i can find these kits for $20 more than their 3600mhz cl18. You can also consider samsung bdie for amd if you overclock, but they are quite more $ and quite more hard to find. Also there are ADATA, XPG, and TEAMGROUP bundles of RAM and SSD which contain higher end SSDS and saves a buck.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Some things prefer lower latency, some faster frequency. On balance 3600 CL18 is roughly equivalent to 3200 CL16 and that's why I recommend to skip it in favor of 3600 CL16 if you want to jump up a tier of performance.

[@adama7752]

Internally there is a timing spec of how long it takes in nanoseconds to get data to the output pins (CAS latency). So, if you are running at a faster clock, you'll wait more cycles before that timing is met. At the extremely you could have CL1, but you'd have to run slow like 20MHz. The only reason to run at a faster clock is the subsequent data burst (next bit in the burst) has a much faster timing. Not than you can control how a game reads it's memory. But sequential reads are faster than random

[@ArnoldGaming]

@@PCBuilderChannel Yea I also just went for 3600mhz cl18 cause why not

[@NotThatGuyJD]

Great video in general, no complaints. Might make special mention of the 3600 cl17 stuff in future which is almost certainly CJR, and although with a ryzen build which doesn't run odd Cas latencies you'd end up at 18-19-19-39 which is still better than the 3600 18-20-20 or 18-22-22 kits. The main reason 3200 14-14-14 is more expensive is the fact that it is bdie and as such attracts the bdie tax and is less common as well and the real value lies in manual tuning for it and like you mentioned the compatibility as even the older ryzen stuff will run it no problem.

[@Comet1310YT]

ryzen does run odd cas, you just have to disable gear down mode, however this makes it much harder to stabilize command 1t.

[@NotThatGuyJD]

@Comet 1310 yes that is true but most people are set xmp and forget. If they set xmp at all...

[@jimgom3337]

I got 4600Mhz CL18-26-26-46 and i managed to sync it with the memory controler of Ryzen9-5950x at 1966Mhz (3933 MT) at CL-15-21-21-36. And it is lighting fast ! Passmark shows memory latency 40ns ! Very satisfied ! Yet another great informative seminar video from PC Builder :)

[@SUTH_33]

bought a ddr5 last month. upgrade from ddr3 1866mhz to ddr5 6000mhz. from 4th gen intel core to 12th gen. 8 years++ my 4th gen i7 4790k going strong, time to upgrade ☑️

[@josiahbaker8339]

I learned a couple new things about RAM so thank you for that. I was hoping you would be covering a little more about DDR5 as I am buying a desktop to get away from using my laptop for highly demanding games and applications. The desktop comes with 12th Gen Intel chips 3070TI and DDR5 4800Mhz. I assumed it would be sufficient and on equal par with DDR4 and make it easily upgradeable when DDR5 gets better and cheaper.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

If it is a prebuilt, you don't have a lot of choice if they use DDR5. Nothing wrong with it, just that the memory controller on 12th gen intel can't fully take advantage of DDR5 (similar thing happened when DDR4 first rolled out). Hopefully Ryzen 7000 and 13th gen Intel continue to improve! But similar gaming performance. Hope that helps!

[@iku7630]

I would actually go for 2x16gb 3600mhz, cl16. Price wise it's like less than double usually compared to 2x8 and you future proof yourself so much more. I agree that most of the time you won't need more than 16gb ram, but when you have discord, steam, windows, and all kinds of other stuff running it starts to take a toll. Especially when you play city builder games which are often overlooked in comparisons. Think of: cities skylines, frostpunk, anno 1800. Then 32 will make a difference over 16gb. Plus it's easier to fork out say 50 bucks for double the ram rather than finding a matching kit 1 year down the line. In my case for instance the RAM i had was discontinued because of a takeover.

[@britishmick]

Brilliantly made video with clearly explained info. Can I just say how frustrating it is that intel restrict the ram to the cpu model, I have an i7 and it throttles my ram down from 3600 to 2933 which is the max, xmp profile will not change anything, I have a prime b460 plus mobo, is this possible to rectify? Or am there stuck at 2933?

[@txchristopherreed]

I understand all of your explanations, but I find it hard to believe that paying about an extra $20-30 or so to go from a 2x8GB kit to a 2X16GB kit won't improve things overall in general. Especially if you're doing things with your PC other than just gaming.

[@sallyk9298]

i like you. this is the first video i have seen of yours. you're straight to the point, clear and easy to understand. everything is laid out and no extra "flare" or BS is added.

[@Trailerkusken]

Great and informative video mr Jason! I just wish I saw this 6 weeks ago, before bying my new rig.. To warn anyone who are out to upgrade to DDR5, DO NOT buy 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM! As you touched in this video, the memory controllers just can't handle it.. I bought a pre-built with a kit of 2x Kingston Fury 16GB 5200 MT/s, but chose an upgrade option to ad 2 more of the same sticks. When trying to activate XMP in the BIOS, the PC doesn't even boot up.. Trying to manually set the memory to run more than 4000 MT/s, just makes the system very unstable, so baseclock is really all I can use without having frequent game crashes. So now I'm trying to get the company who built the PC to swap my 4 sticks for a kit of 2 sticks with the same amount of memory..😕

[@Jiggy_Jayy]

I have 4 sticks of 8gb trident ddr4 in my set up totally 32gbs of RAM. Are you and pc builder saying that's bad? I should only run 2 sticks of 16 gb?

[@Trailerkusken]

@@Jiggy_Jayy DDR4 is fine, DDR5 not so much..

[@Jiggy_Jayy]

@@Trailerkusken word, thanks man!

[@jamescarter8311]

DO NOT get only 16gb. Get at least 32gb for anything.

[@curryvictim1697]

Meh, i agree because price is close but the only game that needs more than 16 is star citizen.

[@TruckFan542]

And BeamNG. Cities Skylines likes RAM too

[@Dragonballonlineshow]

I agree 100%

[@estelleviljoen5236]

I have 32gb lpx 3600 but want 64gb

[@Mlkshk-kz2lb]

I’m watching this bud cuz I’m tryna run warzone on 8gb 💀

[@wrathofskoll]

Can we get a video explaining what would be best ram for those who want to stream, game, and for those who are possibly creators that use programs like marvelous, blender, 3ds max, and etc. Seeing how a lot of people are going with next-gen lately it would be good to hear about DDR5 best ram. Thanks! But overall loved the video.

[@vc1586]

I appreciate you trying to make all this boring tech jargon interesting by keeping an upbeat voice and attitude. Good vids all around

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you're enjoying them!

[@aneeshfroome4464]

Great video! I haven't needed to upgrade my hardware in many years, but it's time to upgrade so it's nice to get a refresher course on all this stuff!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching

[@MadX8]

Even though it's an "old" video, my god this is so helpful. Thank you so much mister !

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You got it, love to hear how helpful you found it! Oldie but a goldie :) thanks for the support.

[@RichardMiller-td1bn]

This channel is a god send. You get into the little subtle nuances that are very hard to find on the web, for me at least. Also I really enjoy Mr Bear!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you found our way to the channel! And Mr. bear appreciates it :)

[@c4n0]

Has to pause the video at min 4 to comment this is an excellent intro to RAM understanding, congrats sir

[@PuraVidaAries]

This is the best channel I've seen in years of geeking and learning what I need and what to buy. Underrated, I we still get ocasional memes with no runarounds but straight to the point.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for the great feedback! It means a ton to us

[@BearfootBob]

Thanks Dude. I've had 4 sticks of CL15 2666mhz running in 8 + 4 / 8 + 4 (24GB) for a couple of years, but suddenly it's stopped working (1000's of errors and frequent crashes) in DOCP, and can only run up to 1200mhz or so with DOCP off.

[@cometxp]

8:11 I'm not sure about this, but I don't think it's the memory controller's fault Ryzen runs at a slower ram to maintain 1:1, if I remember, I think it's due to the infinity fabric instead not being able to clock higher, the memory controller should be able to reach higher frequencies if you're willing to sacrifice running 1:1. For newer 8gbit crucial ballistix kits, I've heard that they use the same chips beyond 3000+, so if you just get the cheapest new ballistix 2x8gb 3000, you can manually tune to to perform similarly to the 3600 c16 kit. Well it's a shame that they discontinued the ballistix line though. But it's a good deal if you can get it. 3200 14-14-14 kits are guaranteed to use Samsung b die, its basically the better ddr4 IC, you can manually overclock it to higher speeds. Although yeah I have to agree it cost a hefty premium, and if you don't want to manually overclock and tune it, it's probably not worth it 16:14, I think it could be debatable depending on what you want to do with it, on most cases 4x8gb DR configuration is worse compared to 2x16gb DR cause of the motherboard's memory topology.

[@glinteastwood]

This was so helpful. Listening multiple times just to absorb the info. It’s dense, in the best way.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you found this one helpful! Thank you for watching.

[@MacroMacUltd]

Great way to hit the ground running on the newer generations. Thanks a ton!

[@MobbG]

I have a ASUS VivoBook Pro 16X OLED Slim Laptop, 16ich AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX CPU, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11 Pro, is that good for games such as GTA 5 Mod Graphics or Beta Testing games, or game develop graphic designing ?

[@alienatedslayer]

I have a Ryzen 9 3900x and a RTX2080s with 16gb Ram. Just ordered 2x 16gb Corsair Vengeance RGB RS sticks to help with editing videos and so on. Thanks for the help

[@scobrado]

PC Builder. Good info. Thanks! You should use protection... _static_ protection including a grounded mat and wrist strap. I often forgo the mat and just clip onto the grounded computer case.

[@rayakojuice]

I've been binging on this channel a lot, recently. Something relaxing about the presentation, and the topics are always fleshed out super well.

[@neomis0119]

Was on the fence with DDR5, I went with it and was disappointed at first, after many (5) bios updates all to improve ram speed (z690 hero) I’m getting much higher scores in my benchmarks, about 18 percent higher compared to when I first used it. I was actually a few fps lower than my ddr4 comparison now im a few fps higher. Manufacturers are maturing for ddr5, and quickly

[@Ok-uc7ct]

I have ddr5, how do I update my bios to assist in speeds? Did you have XMP profile or auto speeds? Thank you

[@zainspierrot7075]

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[@sarcasticMIKEchild]

I'm so glad I found this video. I've been driving myself nuts with research on what RAM to buy

[@MickenCZProfi]

Thank you so much! This is a meticulous explanation of how RAM works, you're really good at this.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thank you for the feedback it means a lot to us

[@boxbawks]

I like your attitude and enthusiasm! Very good energy, without being over the edge or too goofy/flashy like most. SUB'D

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the great feedback! It means a lot to us

[@komir9491]

One video, ONE 17 minute youtube video, and i know everything about ram. This guy is awesome

[@jawashasalan56]

Very, well explained video! I just don't fully understand the whole running "one to one" or "synchronically" bit at 7:53. Weirdly enough i also don't find anything about that on google. I have an Ryzen 5 3600XT and there it states the max type of DDR4 as 3200, so does that mean, that the memory controller runs at 3200 and therefore i should run 3200 Speed Memory? I guess it's not that important than since i don't find much about it.

[@vrk1131]

1:53 thank you so much. It’s a new information for me.

[@MrErgenta]

Why do I get late 90's late night infomercial vibs from this guy?

[@GaspoweR]

I had to do research for a few years back when I had to upgrade RAM and I’m glad you made this video since it saves me time having to reread articles that covered this very topic. Thank you!

[@borzonstudios8638]

Going with a i7-12700F + RTX 3080 and 3200 CL16, what do you think? I'd go 3600 but trying to save some money here and there in the build.

[@artles7769]

Hello buddy, I have an important question , who is better for Ryzen 5600x CL-16-16-16-36 or CL 14-15-15-35 what is your opinion ? Thanks in advance :)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hop over to our recent 5600 build guide! We go over this in depth there

[@faulsity]

When I built my pc last year, I got trident z neo ram, highly recommended. 3600 c14 32 gb. More expensive than 16 gb but I wanted some headroom with my 5800x and 3060 ti.

[@nithia]

Man I still remember going to Fry's and seeing an 8gb stick of ram without even a heat spreader on it, just bear green pcb for like $80

[@imellor711]

Hi Jason, When it comes to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800 CPU and DDR 4 ram, is it best to increase your PC ram to 32GB using only two DDR DIMMS (i.e. 2×16GB.) or is it best to fill all the memory slots, I.e 4x 8GB DDR 4. Or with double clocking and CAS doesn't it matter? If you can let me know, I would appreciate it.

[@civilian3541]

2 slots will always be faster

[@kasimirfreeman]

I would like to know the reasons for the picks, particularly budget where there are many options from known brands for similar amounts. Why "Silicon Power" and not "Corsair" or "G.Skill" for the $50-55 range?

[@dayzroc8645]

Hi, great video, one question: I have a b550 with 4 DIMM slots, I've installed 2×8 gig sticks, 3200 CL 16, I'm thinking about adding two more but I'm worried about compatibility issues, what do you suggest? Am I gonna be safe If I get RAM sticks with the same specs (different brand)?

[@LinusScrubTips]

I really recommend 32. 16 is fine, but it’s going to top out soon. My old build was running 11-12 while gaming.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

Yeap, And 32GB overall feels more snappy when moving though tabs which recently i had 16GB and it was nice but as well when i had a few tabs open i was reaching all the way down to 900mb left of ram in games. For me as i muti task alot and run VMs, 32GB was the best option and people even said "Oh but you wont see a difference its not worth it" Yea right there's a difference for sure

[@openbabel]

Why cant you use M.2 ssd storage as RAM function as speeds are now compatible for swop out? ....or manufacturers just keeping this quiet ?

[@jesa127]

Great info and nice cat! Thank you!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you enjoyed the video (and the true star of the channel)! Thanks for watching

[@jays1594]

This is so dumb down for people like me. I really appreciate this man. Please make more content along these lines!!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn]

Haven't had a Stick of Corsair RAM go bad and I have been using Dominator since DDR2 1066.. But GSKILL... RMA after RMA after RMA..

[@whodat8048]

Thumbs up and subscribed for the single reason of this man's sheer competence.

[@DualsPortvet]

Good video. It made since to me because I spend about a day looking into ram and how it's setup and used. I think without that, the viewer would be lost on most of the video. That's not meant as a dig. You nailed the important stuff. Because of that, I've subscribed. It nice to know the review knows what they are talking about.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel!

[@SS-ql7dc]

Thank you so much for an amazing video. Just what I needed to watch as I am pondering to build my own pc. I have a question: Is it better to get 2x16gb or 4x8gb RAM? And what would be the difference if there is any. Thank you.

[@R3dbudd]

I saw the RipJaws is around $57 now, I got the Corsair Vengeance RGB for around $70 as of 2 days ago on Newegg. That and a Ryzen 5600X and Asrock B550 Pro inbound this week. Haven't built in 10 years, can't wait.

[@dekion261]

Last upgrade I performed for RAM, was swapping out my 2400mhz Aegis ram 32gb 2x 16gb kit xmp profile set to 2700 or 2800 (i forget) for ripjaws 4x8gb = 32gb @3600mhz low latency ram. I ended up getting them used for 134 dollars which at the time was a steal. looks good having all the slots filled, and it has been a solid performer. I haven't clocked it higher in the xmp, I just saw no need for it. I may later at some point when I get a upgrade on the cooler for my 6700k for higher OC. as for the silicon powr kits you showed, i've tried a 3600 mhz kit 32gb 2 x 16gb sticks that were supposed to support XMP. My system did not like that at all. if anyone here is running MSI z170, you might want to rethink that as an upgrade. I am not sure if it was the board or my ram, I tested the sticks in all slots by themselves and the only way they worked for me was with xmp off. i didn't pay to run 3600mhz ram at base speed. I am not crapping on the company btw. I love silicon power. i'll go to them again and again for SSDs without any reservations. I've only had one bad drive and they took care of me with no issues. and maybe they would have done that with the ram, but i went through AMAZON, and it was easier just to get refunded and move on. ended up with the rip jaws and have been happy ever since. I would like to build a new system, but i see no need to do so, so I am just going to drive this heap till it fails.

[@lovemoonbb]

Dude, I love you. I've been looking for a video like this for a while. Very well made video!! You da real MVP!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help! Thank you for watching

[@balzinderchhabra8804]

You've helped me avoid making a lot of mistakes. Thanks buddy!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Love to hear it, glad we could help you out! And thanks for your support!

[@knockoutjosie]

One of the best tech channels. Thank you ! Had to sub

[@jayraaadical]

Hi Jason have been watching your videos non stop. Im a first time builder, and was almost finished everything with your channel in the background. I overheard you talk about the gigabyte 750w psu, and looked at the one i was literally finishing up cable management on and realised i have the explodey one. Oops. Problem is that the reviews on it that i saw before i bought were pretty good. Thanks Jason! Upgrading to one from the a tier list. Is there enough other bad/dangerous components getting around that you could make a video to warn others like me? It was literally a total coincidence that i had your videos on auto play and an ep of boost my build was on with that same psu!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hi Jared! Congrats on your first build!! So glad we could help. Thats a great idea for a future video.

[@West_alex]

thank you very much, I'm assembling my first gaming PC, despite having learned a lot about all the components of the PC, the RAM was the component I had the most doubts about, now I understand thanks to you

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help! Best wishes on your build!

[@Leme994]

Jason, your content is so good, thanks for the contribution, I just wish I found your videos before I built my PC, it could definitely have been boosted!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoy all the content! Thanks for the support!

[@itsjustaname7311]

highly appreciated video! Thank you so much, saving me a 100$ for same performance right now! ^^

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!

[@westfield90]

Thank you for this informative video. I just want Ram, NVMe and SSD that won’t bankrupt me and won’t die after a year which is what almost every PC builder channels on KZbin never seem to understand by using cheap parts but never read the comments on Newegg that these cheap brands die after 6-12 months.

[@jimbobbyrnes]

im surprised you didn't mention about mixing ram and how complicated of a answer that is. or how you need to find the dual channel ram slots and use those instead of just installing them from left to right.

[@ajgunn3277]

cheers to you and your cat. subbed. learned a lot. nicely done.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you found it so helpful! Cheers from the states! The cat has nodded approvingly ;)

[@offthewallhobbyman6978]

This is simply one of the best, most important videos on all of KZbin for things PC related. What a gem! Thank you kindly for this jnformation.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you! So glad you enjoyed!

[@itshema2386]

This is very helpful and educational. Thanks for the video ❤️

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you enjoyed!

[@janski1476]

8:43 yeah no, the reason im looking to upgrade is because is because a lot of the games i play use near 16 gigs so even if i have nothing else running in the background i might still be unable to play

[@starsnstrife]

i have a 1600mhz ddr3. Buying new ram is not a problem, but my motherboard doesn't support ddr 4 or 5. I would have to change the whole thing. upgrading a pc is such a pain.

[@THELASTWORKINGTOILETOFINDIA]

that's how they make money 🤭

[@DeusMachina71]

I just built an I7 12700k, Msi 3080 trio x, 32gb DDR5 5200 Kingston fury, 4x WD sn850 2tb drives and a Gigabyte Aorus pro mb.. runs sweet, I probably have more than I need and threw more money than necessary but the ability to multi task and minimize games with no problems with memory or cpu was worth it..I'll probably hold out for another generation or 2 before upgrading the gpu because the power consumption and heat is concerning. I suspect they will have to address that issue eventually as it's possible the EU might go after the industry considering it needs energy efficiency, not to mention consumer backlash.. needing 12 fans and needing to ac my room because it's a heater will become ridiculous, I use an aio but paying out the nose for a custom water cooling system is not in my future

[@Silentnight1979]

I have an MSI Titan GT77 12UGS-009 and i want to upgrade to 128gb of DDR5 Ram...but i cant find anything available? Any guidance?

[@mrchills23]

first 2 minutes alone I learned so much TY, easy thumbs up

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! thank you for the like