Elden Ring Nightreign hands-on: 10 takeaways from playing in Japan | First Look

[@DarkLordMavi]

I appreciate FromSoft for taking creative risks with this project, even if it seems as though the final product won't be for every souls fan.

[@mocha5742]

I don’t think this is the Fromsoft team that we enjoy playing games from.

[@DarkAsDeath]

@@mocha5742man you are on a negative commenting spree arn’t ya?

[@Nekojiro_Sou]

Yeah, those gacha mechanics sure are "creative risks"

[@foxywoxy1915]

@@DarkAsDeathReally doesn’t feel like it though. This feels like a separate team

[@Vivosity]

@@mocha5742 Fromsoft makes a roguelike and everyone’s losing their minds😂 it’s funny seeing all these replies

[@Childofbhaal]

This isn’t being directed by Miyazaki, he has probably been done with Elden Ring for a bit and focusing on his next game just like he did with Dark Souls to Bloodborne. The director asked Miyazaki for the okay to try out an idea he had and got the green light. This is just a standalone thing to get a new director some experience and potentially help From as a company. Not a huge deal to me. I know From is cooking up masterpieces behind the scenes

[@justanothercommentercarryo8367]

not to be "that guy" but where are ya hearing this btw? I;m trying to figure out more about this game.

[@Childofbhaal]

@ IGN did an article with the director Junya Ishizaki. Just google his name and you should find it

[@dr.shyguy4458]

@@justanothercommentercarryo8367well we have heard from Miyazaki himself that he wasn’t apart of this project, but we are also assuming because as he said, he did the same thing with dark souls 2, while focusing his time making bloodborne

[@filmkid8221]

@@justanothercommentercarryo8367ign interview

[@YetiCoolBrother]

​@@justanothercommentercarryo8367 There's a recent interview where Miyazaki talked about wanting to really train up new directors for the company so he can continue to do as he pleases basically. This type of game is very in line with that.

[@bombomos]

Im am FULLY on board for Fromsoft to go back to the days of having Spin off games to test out new ideas

[@andy897221]

what day, since when

[@StefanBrokowki]

Back in the late 90's to early 2010's lots of companies made experimental spin off of popular games or franchises. Resident Evil did it alot. Metal Gear Rising Revengeance is an experimental spin off.

[@andy897221]

@@StefanBrokowki but this is just going to fornite, we can tell from the trailer, another stupid trend chaser

[@michapiasta3072]

​@@andy897221 its is more of an co-op roguelike.

[@StefanBrokowki]

@@andy897221 Not really. The only Fortnite esc stuff is the enclosing death ring and a glider. Your not fighting players. It's pve. Going into a map fighting enemies getting stronger for 3 in game days until the ring closes and you fight a Boss. It's closer to Monster Hunter.

[@adamminecraft6970]

The Dark Souls of Roguelikes

[@MarioGoatse]

Finally it actually exists. and isn't just a meme

[@michapiasta3072]

Now we need Dark souls of dating sims.

[@blk786]

The Rougelike of Dark Souls

[@n7x]

The binding of Isaac of souls-likes

[@10hikey]

@@michapiasta3072 Black Souls 1 & 2

[@arc_flash658]

After the massive success of Elden Ring, Fromsoft as a company greatly expanded in manpower hiring more personnel. It looks like they are using this game as a way to get all the new personnel up to speed and familiarized with the game engine. Plus a great way to test out new mechanics. I’m definitely looking forward to it.

[@trollnippers]

Source: Trust me bro

[@TommFoolery]

@@trollnippers What are you talking about? The claim that the hired more people after Elden Ring is obvious given the sudden success of it and everything beyond that is just his guess because he says "It looks like".

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

Makes a lot of sense since it's more of an experimental remix/mod of elden ring than a new game

[@bleedingrevo]

Oh yeah, for sure😂,this is definitely not just another cash grab with reused assets and bosses

[@AMythicalTrickster]

@@bleedingrevo this has a bunch of new bosses in it from what I saw.

[@Zizou19989]

So you’re telling me I can do seamless coop with my console friends and it’s an Elden ring randomizer/roguelike !? Free the people who lost hype over the concept but I’m sold. Edit: A lot of negative Nancie’s in the replies who clearly aren’t familiar with fromsofts stellar reputation, don’t take the bait

[@peelsplays]

Nah

[@the-jevster]

I say nah to your nah so now there's no nah's. How bout that? ​@@peelsplays

[@thex6992]

This sounds perfect until the next real game comes out actually. I been playing souls since I was a kid so roguelike sounds fun as fck. I'll get this 100000%

[@Zizou19989]

@@thex6992 agreed. None of us expected anything from fromsoft for a while so getting some Elden ring related content as soon as next year is more than what I could of dreamed of

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

It just sounds like a bastardized FS game, a shabriri wearing someone's skin without any of the substance or weighty combat. A wh*re of games slopped out by bandai.

[@todd5purlock497]

Thank you for this, I feel a lot more informed than I did after watching the trailer

[@solomon9655]

I don't understand the doomposting. It's a spinoff, Fromsoft is still cooking whatever they're cooking separate from this. Monster Hunter does this all the time. I'm personally excited, I've been imagining a coop rogue souls would be fun and they're actually doing it.

[@twizms7362]

Literally. This whole comment section crying about "fromsoft is ruined" is hilarious. They're so dramatic

[@Hungo80k]

Yeah im sorry but this look so lame it has no pvp they should of just made a new DLC

[@reasonable78]

I really wanna give people the benefit of the doubt, but it feels like Souls fans just want Fromsoft to keep making the same game over and over again. Fromsoft used to make weird, bizarre games pretty often before Dark Souls 1 blew up, but this game is apparently a big "creative risk"?

[@reasonable78]

@@Hungo80k Miyazaki probably doesn't want another DLC, because milking the same game over and over isn't fun or innovative. At least here they're trying something new

[@Hungo80k]

​@@reasonable78 been playing since DS1 AND yeah im gana have to pass on this.

[@thomashooper2451]

Those new classes sound like FromSoft tinkering around with new gameplay ideas. The Recluse, in particular, could have a lot of impact on the magic system in their next game with the way it absorbs certain damage types to charge its own spells.

[@Dumbluck-ij3vv]

this truly is darksouls 2: 2: 2

[@geordiejones5618]

I'm dying for a real reactive magic system. Something that blends the environment and has natural counters that have their own biological/chemical/physical effects. Literally someone just rip off Avatar with the elemental bending.

[@BeekoBaggins]

This is what I’m most excited to see, we need a better magic system

[@mohamedkhomsi3375]

Considering how From soft evolved in the last decade, I can't agree more with you. Testing new ideas and gameplay mechanics on a solid base to develop what was successful in future titles.

[@Battleguild]

Casters have been stagnant since DS3 scaled back the improvements for Casters that DS2 brought forward. Such as Catalyst Infusions. Attunement determined Cast Speed Various non-damage armor buffs Just to name a few. I want to see Catalysts (Seals/Staves) to be treated as proper Caster weapons in the future. Such as being allowed Affinities, Ash of War variety, and an FP-free moveset similar to the Perfume Bottles. (An example: Glintsword Staff conjuring a Farron Flashsword as its attack instead of...the staff bonk.) I'm honestly tired of FromSoft trying to push Casters into playing Spellblades, so Nightreign gives me a bit of hope on this.

[@KenStarwind]

I'm down for this. A more arcade approach to the souls games is fine with me. I can grab 2 friends who haven't tried them before and give them a good jumping off point.

[@HalcyonEX]

Yeah it's great if you have friends....

[@DaneScholz-jp4gt]

@HalcyonEX Womp womp

[@the-red-thing]

@@HalcyonEX it can be played solo

[@FelixMateoThatsFelix]

Yall have friends 😢

[@thegodofsoapkekcario1970]

People complaining about how they don’t have friends like they can’t just join a Discord call with randoms and play. What a bunch of bums.

[@shanemahoney3803]

Honestly sounds like more of a test run for a lot of ideas fromsoft has had on the back burner and may take the good from this into a much bigger future project

[@Ryan-nm8pw]

Test run and also training project for new devs. Miyazaki said they had some 30 odd projects in the works, no way they're doing that with the old 100 man studio, they probably spent some of that Elden Ring $$$ on new hires so it makes sense to have some non-flagship projects to train them on.

[@Energistx]

honestly it feel like they took Seemless Co-op and Convergence and smashed them together. Threw a coat of Ravenswatch on it and gave it a shrinking ring.

[@mr.hanfblatt9152]

It's basically the Dark Souls 2 thematic again. Made by someone teached by Miyazaki, testing out new mechanics in a familiar environment for the fans. It's a great tactic.

[@ItsJustCartier]

@@mr.hanfblatt9152If it’s a great tactic why did make another DS2?

[@lostboikenny]

​@@ItsJustCartier cause it's a test, do you not understand what a test is or do you speak before you think

[@Chinesetakeout382]

I won’t lie, the hype did go down for me a little when I found out this wasn’t a DLC, but I still think it’s a really cool idea that that I’m excited to play.

[@thlnkerr423]

Same here. It’s crazy to see that other people in the comments aren’t excited. Many fromsoft fans crave the same formula. I get being upset if this was Miyazaki’s priority but this is being lead by a small team while Miyazaki is working primarily on other things.

[@BradleytheDavis]

Its so DLC-coded tho. Like it literally looks like a 5 dollar game mode DLC, not something even close to worthy of a Seperate release.

[@thlnkerr423]

@@BradleytheDavis You don’t know the extent of the content that the game provides. Your assumptions are pessimistic. Only the full release will tell customers if it’s worth the money.

[@baitposter]

This will probably be fun for the randomizer modders

[@baitposter]

​@@BradleytheDavis Where'd you get to demo the release copy of the game?

[@Darth_Vader846]

so this is kind of like the chalice dungeons in bloodborne, sounds pretty cool tbh

[@mocha5742]

Not if the chalice dungeons cost $40

[@orewaren8549]

@@mocha5742bloodborne sucks thats why chalice dungeons was free, this game should cost 90 dollars just by virtue of NOT being sucks-nevergoingtoberemadeorremastered-borne

[@abluecardigan]

@@mocha5742 i'll pay $40 for elden ring chalice dungeons

[@AydarBMSTU]

Chalice dungeons were terrible tho, hopefully this one is better

[@lavenderscythe6812]

Didnt people hated that dungeons?

[@garypinholster1962]

Is this going to be a Risk Of Rain: Elden Ring Edition game cause I'm all for this.

[@dumbjack228]

Risk of night Reign

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Stacking Crowbar on my Giant crusher loadout

[@sneezy2day636]

Focus Crystals boutta go crazy

[@mh6276]

Or like Hyrule Warriors: Elden Ring. This really feels like a mix of ROR2 and HWAoC.

[@voidgivenfocus]

definitely feels like a third party dev team was given access to the elden ring engine and game files for past fromsoft games lol It kind of does feel like a very ambitious mod

[@LividCreature]

And there’s nothing wrong with that.

[@jackbearden9840]

Fromsoft's B team is likely at the helm here, its directed by Junya Ishizaki not Miyazaki

[@horkah6966]

It feels like the Garden of Eyes mod lol

[@finrodfel06]

Seamless coop mod be like:

[@DamaLiam]

@@jackbearden9840he’s still a zaki, I believe in him

[@StrikeNoir105E]

FromSoft is no stranger to doing experimental games that depart from their "usual" repertoire, from Armored Core: Formula Front, to The Adventures of Cookie and Cream, etc. This is just another of their side projects they're doing to keep things fresh.

[@ericeric]

I mean this is just the natural evolution of the Chalice dungeons

[@CosmicVoid_119]

Sounds like your making excuses and no one make better excuses like the from soft communities

[@Chris-sm2uj]

@@CosmicVoid_119 fr

[@atif45602]

Honestly, I am still waiting for Bloodborne remaster for PC , I mean what's stopping them to do it ??​@@CosmicVoid_119

[@CeaerCeaer]

@@atif45602The fact Sony owns Bloodborne, not from

[@blackout0119]

This is a bonus game really. We weren't suppoed to have another Elden Ring game/DLC but yet we got this. Just enjoy that we'll have one more time in that world.

[@dukeon]

FR 👍🏼

[@jankopzmavc6834]

Why are people mad, this clearly isn't a main release. It is just more of elden ring. If you love elden ring like I do. You will play this. If you don't like that....just wait for the next game

[@rep1600]

yeah, it's definitely a side game. i guess people are disappointed because they want more story content, which is fine,but this seems to be a pure focus on gameplay and trying a new idea

[@Ecch0lt]

​@@rep1600 I mean, that has been Fromsoft's approach since DS1. Testing new ideas over and over again so all of this combines in one masterpiece. We reached the point where FS is testing new things and even greater things, so just give it a try. And even if it doesn't come out as expected, they probably are cooking something even greater as this for their next main game.

[@chilly456]

People are probably scared because of the possible upcoming Kadokawa acquisition, with that and this changing so much so fast people are being negative. Personally, im quite excited for this because it has more movement/ PvE focus with more movement options and I'll be able to play with my friends.

[@steel5897]

It's quite demonstrably NOT "more Elden Ring", that's the point, that's why people are mad, lmao. Not me, I'm fine with experimentation, because if I want to play Elden Ring it already exists. But you're severely misunderstanding the backlash.

[@mouse_bone]

Because most of us have been playing these series for 15 years since Demon's Souls. The character's, their stories, the journys and lands traveled, the lore acquired and poured over to understand, is all very special to a lot of players that came before Elden Ring. This game potentially cheapens and spoils the lore by putting a half assed spin on our favorite games to test new stuff. I'm not sure if you've played the other games but they are bringing in bosses and characters from completely disconnected worlds and Miyazaki has never merged lore in his development methods. He makes a game and then moves to the next big thing. Not saying this game will be bad as far as gameplay and replayability. I'm very excited for this, I just hope they don't do some cheap Hollywood reboot style mess of a story to justify this game.

[@Grimlock2183]

Elden Ring but they shoved Seamless Co-Op and the Randomizer into it and made it a Roguelike? HELL YEAH.

[@Iwmar]

More like DOA

[@MrRafagigapr]

I love how people praise games not being special anymore

[@cjyoung5635]

​@@MrRafagigapr it's elden ring but gauntlet what's not to like?

[@cjyoung5635]

​@@MrRafagigapr and might I add one of the bosses seems to be four Sifs at once which sounds chaotic but fun.

[@lecrab8090]

@@Iwmar Cry

[@larkerpudwig]

Thank you for all the information! Nightreign will be different than what I expected from the announcement video but I’m still super excited!

[@Ordinaryguy5298]

This is sounding like a dungeon raid/boss rush/ dynasty warriors/helldivers/rogue-like game and I think it's cool that they are trying something new in a way that they know how

[@choosenundead4428]

"premium priced" compilation of old games lol

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

I really hope it is not like Dynasty Warriors. I am no big fan of Warriors games. One Piece Pirate warriors is the only one that I like but nothing that I love and the only good thing is playing all the charakters that I love.

[@The0nlyy]

No kidding it seems sick! There’s hundreds of hours of map and weapons they can tap into

[@Turtleman9856]

This sounds….. interesting. Doesn’t really sound like this is going to appeal very heavily to Elden Ring’s target audience, but it does sound like Sony’s typical target audience.

[@IchorSanies]

I already hate it

[@Senenth]

If sony is involved in this, then this marks the decline of fromsoftware for me

[@Turtleman9856]

@ I don’t think the deal’s gone through yet, so I’d think that they aren’t, but at the same time this sounds like it’s got their touch all over it.

[@Senenth]

@@Turtleman9856 yeah this sort of game doesnt sound like fromsoftware at all. The trailer had me hype but now I really am not interested. My only hope for next year is witcher 4 i guess

[@Vivosity]

@Senenth doomer. Calm down it’s not the end of fromsoft. This is a cool spin on elden ring for us to play while they’re working on a new game.

[@myblindrun1544]

The way Elden Ring dungeons are structured in base game is perfect for randomization. I really hope they do this, similar to the way BloodBorne did

[@vozac4470]

I was thinking the same thing. Alot could be done with this

[@arkxerxes8017]

This feels like God of War Valhalla. Not supposed to feel like a full game because it isn’t really. It is like a DLC with unique mechanics and gameplay loops. Like this is the snack From is giving us between the big meals they are cooking up.

[@bleedingrevo]

Except it's 40 dollars😂 unbelievable

[@robertbcardoza]

You spend almost fourty bucks on one meal at a decent restaurant these days. You make that in two hours at a typical job. It’s really not that much money for something that you will spend dozens of hours doing.

[@icecreamvendor8245]

@@robertbcardoza Oh wow! 40 dollars for Fromsoft's terrible netcode! Gimme gimme gimme

[@Endemoniada_1]

@@bleedingrevoSOTE was also that same price.

[@chriskotte8468]

Nah feels like risk of rain 2.

[@LoganardoDVinci]

If nothing else, it'll be a gallery for some new Elden Ring art. I'll take that over nothing!

[@hawk-9890]

and lore

[@Active0Bserver]

I see this going one of two ways 1. Fromsoft is letting the director Ishizaki have a go at Nightreign to keep fans at bay (and mess around with new mechanics to see what sticks with the playerbase), whilst the A team works on bigger, more in-line-with-Fromsoft things 2. They're putting the fanbase in a pot of nice, warm Sony-flavoured water so that we won't leap out when/if they set the heat to high via selling to Sony, meaning (potentially) more of these 'trendy' mechanics are to be expected from future Fromsoft releases

[@gu3z185]

The reason trendy mechanics sell well are because people like them. I'm willing to bet that's a large part of the reason Elden Ring was "open world" at all. The other reason was that they wanted it to be different from Dark Souls, making the world design more conventional in the eyes of mainstream audiences. That seems to be what they're doing here with the gameplay loop, pulling an obviously profitable and constructive decision and just making something different from the original material that is guaranteed to resonate with a large portion of the audience while letting Ishizaki and the new hires stretch their wings as they try to make a multiplayer FS game that doesn't feel wack.

[@themangastand8475]

This was definitely in place well before Sony.

[@Active0Bserver]

@@gu3z185 I'm all but sure that you're right on the money about their decision to make Elden Ring 'open world' in order to open the franchise to a wider audience. I only hope they incorporate trendy mechanics in moderation... Too much conformity may run the risk of watering down the heart and soul of Souls games and alienating long time fans. A full blown Dark Souls coded battle royale would send me into an early grave ,lol

[@Endemoniada_1]

Sony had nothing to do with this game lmao

[@shinkenrock]

Number 2 makes no sense since this was in preparation way before what we know now

[@magnus_artifex]

I am actually excited. It’s a way more balanced randomizer and a roguelike. The time limit will definitely increase the stress when playing it and the build variety is huge. And I trust Fromsoft to make good things. And even if not, they’ll learn from it. I just hope they play test this enough.

[@xslashsdas]

It's insane that From Soft is actually taking risks like this. So many people who will complain are the same ones who say "AAA gaming is dead" and "Every AAA game is the same". But when a massive company like that actually attempts something different, is when we should be celebrating, even if it's not for everyone.

[@minerman60101]

Exactly! We need more weird spinoffs that use a small scope and existing assets to do a bunch of experimentation.

[@Kamawan0]

You think this is different? The footage showed so many re-used assets, not only from Elden Ring but from Dark Souls 1-3. If you think what you see is different, I have some snake oil to sell you!

[@xslashsdas]

​@@Kamawan0 I'm really sad for you, must be really tough not being able to see past the superficial.

[@TheFallen3]

This nigh be exactly what it takes to get my friends into fromsoftware games. I’m super excited and iHOPE the magic is extensive

[@Valduvia]

This definately seems like a test run but also a reason for them to import older bosses into the elden ring engine. Nameless king and especially centipede demon (which hasnt been shows since dark souls 1) being moved to the engine could be huge in the long run especially for modders.

[@coldturnipgreens]

Modders already do this

[@robertpayne6781]

Yeah, but older bosses would get destroyed with elden rings mechanics, and giving them more health/damage isn't going to solve that problem.

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

modders been doing this for years. it's nothing major

[@KevinSatron]

Just because modders been doing, not everyone wants it. Let people enjoy what the devs gave us instead of relying on mods that can only be used on pc

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

@@KevinSatron you're misunderstanding... I'm just pointing out that modders have pretty much already done what this new game sets out to do that is different. Not saying it is neither good or bad. Just pointing it out

[@invu4834]

I was excited at first, but now I'm unsure.

[@McCrunchy95]

Same

[@In-Nihilum]

Yeah

[@PrimeCo129]

Definitely won't be pre-ordering unless I see some in-game footage.

[@vagblaster7000]

I'm not the biggest fan of rougelikes

[@Seehara]

I hope I can play solo and offline like the other games, otherwise I won't buy it. They could also be more creative, they brought back bosses from other games, so it's recycling.

[@cooper22887]

This comment section is cursed, the game is not even out yet, people are already saying the game bad.

[@teagangrable7131]

Bro played the game for 7 hours and is giving us direct information from his experience. We can extrapolate and make some assumptions as FS critics.. this looks questionable

[@siryozen9648]

It will be

[@mightygnome]

Not bad, just disappointing. Got overhyped for what it COULD be, and reality is pushing down those expectations.

[@ricesasaurus1245]

@@teagangrable7131 ".....to play an EARLY BUILD of Nightreign..."

[@edwardfishkins1125]

Elden Work latinxreign

[@DrakewqSouls]

So it's basically like a mod for elden ring but it's own game.

[@EscapeCondition]

As a big fan of golden axe back in the day I've wanted a dark updated co-op experience with some mechanics like this. Could be interesting imo.

[@dukeon]

Golden Axe! 🙌🏼

[@weko1799]

I'm not a big fan of the Predefined characters but yeah, I will miss my character from elden ring

[@knightforlorn6731]

yeah this pretty much guarantees it will be a pc game for me so I can mod it

[@Henrydota2]

Then play elden ring. What's your problem?

[@foxywoxy1915]

@@Henrydota2The issue is that ER and the past games it merged with allowed people to freely customize how they wish. It’s something they really like. They want to be their own character, not some preset made by a dev

[@MyMrdoodoo]

im glad they're trying something so different. they've been making the same game for a decade (not that i'm complaining lol)

[@baklapjr]

​@@foxywoxy1915Sekiro did not have a customizable character and it still slapped.

[@NocteAeternus]

My hype for this skyrocketed when I first saw the trailer thinking it was another huge DLC, then plummeted when I heard not only was it not, but it had some BR elements like the circle and dropping, and is now cautiously shooting back up. Honestly, especially when you consider that this isn't halting progress on Miyazaki's next true game (since it's a different team/dev), the idea of a Monster Hunter style Souls experience where you can go hunting the fuckin Nameless King in the Lands Between with your bros sounds fun as hell. I'm still cautiously not getting my hopes super high, but I think this could be a fun MonHun type experience.

[@sirfijoe450]

I agree with this sentiment.

[@yungtux8770]

Fortnite did not invent danger zones and falling from things

[@Kamawan0]

Yeah, I'm very skeptical of this release. If they release one map with randomized bosses and loot, then charge $50, I'll personally boycott this company, and that is after 15 years of enjoying their stuff.

[@yungtux8770]

@ you gonna boycott the whole company for one bad release in 15 years 😂

[@Kamawan0]

@@yungtux8770 This would be the third bad release, and frankly they have been declining for a while. Pay attention, or at the very least slap yourself with some sense.

[@raidenstokes1026]

So long as we still get normal fromsoft games after this, I will give this game a shot. If this is the new norm, so long from, it was cool while it lasted

[@DefOfDopeProductions]

It won't be. From has demonstrated time and time again that they value their core player base. This is gonna be a fun side treat reusing lots of assets and taking a fresh spin on Elden Ring style gameplay. This is def the B team. Mark my words by the end of 2025 the main team will.announ announce the next mainline game.

[@cxisis]

obviously they aren’t gonna keep doing this, it’s definitely a victory lap.

[@MyMrdoodoo]

it's their side game while they make the main game

[@TheDumbCow1]

It was being acquired by Sony

[@OnMyLunchBreak07]

It's a spin-off, they said it themselves. So yeah, it's definitely something on the side, perhaps even to experiment for future games.

[@baconshreds1772]

I like studios that push their comfort zones. I believe in all of them.

[@coldturnipgreens]

This is the epitome of comfort zone though

[@Chris-sm2uj]

fortnite but elden ring So radical

[@Joecal2]

@@Chris-sm2ujliterally nothing similar to a battle royale in this game

[@randomnobody9229]

​@@coldturnipgreens boss rush coop roguelike is their comfort zone? Idk bro, seems different to me.

[@tomweevil]

After seeing the nameless king in the trailer I was so confused at what this was going to be, but this is an excellent explanation. Looks really exciting, I think its really cool that fromsoft have these side projects that let other directors try out ideas that potentially feed into the mainline titles.

[@steel5897]

This is very, very exciting. I don't want them to make Elden Ring again, I already have Elden Ring (and amazing mods like Reforged and Seamless Coop). A Soulslike Roguelike has been tried before, but this is From Software, using an incredible foundation to start with, so it has INSANE potential.

[@ErikWithBrain]

Hmm... this would be so amazing if we were still in the era of couch-coop. Still looks worth trying.

[@theShadeslayer]

I really think they should have released a trailer alongside an explainer video about what the game is aiming to be. It's kind of weird to get the first news on what the game is like from a gaming news channel rather than direct from the publisher.

[@paultondolojr9432]

From has never done such a thing

[@manea7074]

@@paultondolojr9432they did with ER gameplay reveal

[@georgetudor7913]

Well they probably should​@@paultondolojr9432

[@The0nlyy]

Found the new guy lol

[@KevinSatron]

You don't need to. They already explained enough what this game is about in game awards. Also, you must be new in game industry

[@U_F_N_M]

This looks like the Souls-like co-op experience I was always hoping for. I really hope this is successful and gets expanded or integrated into future games.

[@DreyfusLagoon]

I hope seemless co-op is incorporated but nothing else.

[@عبدالرحمنالفنتوخ-ه8غ]

My main issue isn’t that it’s rogue like or that it’s not a dlc,what i hate the most is that it’s filled with used assets which really makes me think that there isn’t a lot of original content

[@-Kailinn-]

It's fine that it's not exactly like the base games because if anyone wants that experience just play those games. It's cool to see something new in the same world.

[@jankdotTV]

It’s cool that Fromsoft are deviating from their formula, but I guess it’s a shame that it seems like they’re instead adhering to another already very well established formula.

[@danielhe2123]

I love Roguelike games, and for me the most important thing is how broken build synergies can be. I hope the passive upgrade can be unique upgrades like making your normal attack shoot moonlight waves instead of just higher HP and damage

[@anthonyj2258]

So you’re telling me I can do seamless coop with my console friends and it’s an Elden ring randomizer/roguelike !? Free the people who lost hype over the concept but I’m sold

[@Fatal1MP]

Rougelikes being my favorite indie genre and souls being my favorite genre in general makes me very excited for this

[@SimonSater]

A re-heated soup... this is what this game seems like from all these previews and explanation videos...

[@justaperson9155]

I think the main thing that will decide this game's success is a long term, sustained progression system. Whether it be record clearing times, character upgrade paths, it needs something to grind towards to show yourself as the best.

[@benwright945]

I agree. I was waiting to hear him talk about permanent progression and I’m glad there will be some. Progression is what makes video games fun imo

[@JellyJman]

It really doesn’t, not everything needs to be a long term live service game. It’s just to have fun with some friends or play solo

[@shrunkenderp]

@@JellyJmannot like a love service though, more like just some cool stuff to unlock

[@SomeGuy-qd3li]

I don't think they will ever intend for this game to have long term success. It sounds incredibly experimental and is something to train new devs on. The amount of reused assets and price point also just shows how small the scale is for this game is

[@Kamawan0]

Not every game needs a grind. Only people who no-life video games need that.

[@pac0113]

7:18 all I needed to hear to be sold on this.

[@willostrand6555]

I’m can understand being weary. I like rogue likes and souls games, so I think I’ll enjoy it no matter what. But the fact that Miyazaki basically gave a younger dev the opportunity to solo direct a game himself to get experience and was allowed to experiment is I think a good thing for them to be doing. I’m happy about it being unexpected, even though I was also hoping for some armored core news

[@jordanscott4543]

I wouldn’t really consider the guy has been a Fromsoft dev since dark souls 1. He’s a Fromsoft vet at this point.

[@gu3z185]

Ishizaki has worked on FS games since Dark Souls 1, so I think it's not really a case of charity towards a younger dev, but Miyazaki trusting that a longtime employee would do a good job of directing something experimental. Maybe Miyazaki himself is working on AC7, since we know he's gotta be working on something.

[@willostrand6555]

@@jordanscott4543 first solo lead directing though, there’s a pretty substantial difference I think

[@willostrand6555]

@@gu3z185 ditto what I said to the other guy. He’s certainly younger than Miyazaki, and yeah I hope it gives him more time to work on other things like AC7

[@josiahyork8227]

When I first saw the thumbnail for the trailer on YT, I instantly went "Ah, a new Elden Ring mod. Neat." Then I saw it was posted by Namco Bandai's official channel. I was blown away by everything presented in the trailer. I can't say I expected a single thing that came out of it, conceptually. Now I've calmed down a little and- yeah, it's a new Elden Ring mod. The asset reuse does give it that vibe, like a modder shoving mechanics from previous Fromsoft titles into ER because they can. Though, after finding out it's a new director, I still have hope. This seems more to me like someone at Fromsoftware is trying to find the next step in evolving the Soulslike formula, and throwing all the ideas at the board meeting into one package. I bet it'll be hit and miss, but the hits will be features we continue to see in future games.

[@shaderxluna]

As someone who only likes Elden ring out if all the souls games (yes i played them) and also started playing in elden ring. This second game isnt at all what any true elden ring fan wanted for a second game. We wanted a elden ring pt2 where we continue as a group of tarnished to go fight godwyn etc. unfortunately that is not what we got. Im still excited to check it out, but it is not what we wanted

[@Fairuslolomg]

Sounds like FS are making their own Remnant FtA game. Really hyped on seeing how this is going to turn out

[@King-03530]

This is a risky project for fromsoftware cuz this is nothing like anything theyve ever made but I am excited for it

[@AbystomaMexicanium]

well they also never made open world before and crafted one of the best ones of all time on their first try, so they have my trust

[@King-03530]

@ 100% have my trust as well have always loved souls games hope this is another banger

[@coldturnipgreens]

Its more of the same.

[@GoonShredder9000]

I don't see how it's particularly risky, its a side project, an experimental game. If its mid? Just move on, not a big deal, especially after how successful ER was

[@hare75]

Armored core 6 was actually side project and much more niche than even dark souls 1 but it solds like hotcake and won best action game

[@qorson]

actually sounds really interesting. not exactly what has my jaw dropping every time fromsoft releases (i love their games for the world exploration and environmental storytelling), but don't see how a soulslike roguelike could be anything but funlike

[@tonythesuperperson]

This was a great rundown!

[@mysticswithoutborders]

Duuuuuuude I was NOT expecting this 👀🥳🙌 way to go, my friend! Thanks for sharing! This is such a cool vibe 💯😎

[@jakemartin4178]

Feels like a really ambitious mod found on Nexus Mods only (possibly) less janky. Not sure how to feel about it yet...

[@MooTheDog72]

Pretty much, cinders, seamless co-op and randomizer all in one

[@KevinSatron]

But it's better when it's from the dev themselves because everyone can play it even on console

[@StreyX]

An elden ring rogue-like is not a bad idea. A lot of people play that way on a much bigger scale when they do co-op anyway, so a short and sweet amalgamation of those efforts makes sense in theory. I'm interested in seeing how different combat will be with the different presets.

[@armbars772]

My concern about this is the replayability. Sounds cool for a couple games, then it would just get repetitive. If they have a random map every time you go in again, that might help a little bit. Hopefully it's better than it sounds right now. Don't get me wrong, it looks amazing. I'm just scared to spend my money on something that I wouldn't play over and over again.

[@hare75]

Random generated map + weapon variety is the most important replay value for this game

[@armbars772]

@ that’s what I’m hoping they’ll focus on the most. If they don’t update it enough, the player base will suffer

[@danka2341]

>"First Look" in the title >nothing to look at, no gameplay footage Gaming "journalism" in a nutshell.

[@Jordan_C_Wilde]

I bet you that the poison swamp probability is twice as high as any other, and Myazaki is cackling in his room

[@justsomeannoyingredpanda]

While I am a bit sad to not get the full soulslike experience, just thinking of fighting Gael or Artorias with multiple cool classes is enough to get me hyped!

[@randomnobody9229]

I am pretty sure they have 3 games in the works, I am sure they will release a new IP fairly soon

[@BodieB]

They are developing multiple hands at the studio. This seems like one of the ones given to a young developer

[@_Azulite_]

Exactly. People decry how stagnant and unimaginative the industry is these days but when an established studio takes a risk for once people are suddenly crying.

[@struggler1699]

Yeah, they did say they wanted to do smaller projects. So this is probably that.

[@GuyYagami]

This was super informative. I'm all for an Elden Ring spin off like this. FromSoft is allowed to just flex on us now with new projects and directors....My question is: If Miyazaki isn't directing this, what IS he working on?

[@gu3z185]

I'd be willing to bet it's an Armored Core related thing, since he skipped out on a lot of work for AC6 and handed it off to another director, with there being rumors of another AC game in the works, and it being featured in that Secret Level show.

[@Soul_Resinance]

​@@gu3z185 Given the track record of AC games getting a number entry and then a named follow up game, I would guess that as well

[@hare75]

​@@gu3z185I really hope miyazaki makes another AC 4th gen or even remake them

[@gu3z185]

@@hare75 AC4+FA with modern graphics and actual balancing would be an absolute gaming masterpiece, so long as they don't keep AC6's unbreakable FCS lock. I've dreamed of it too, but I think we're gonna get another new AC game before then

[@TheCrumShot]

I REALLY appreciate this style of games with a come home and do some chill runs with friends and it wont take too much time. Thank you Fromsoft for always delivering quality!

[@SodiumWage]

This feels so much like some corporate suit at Bandai Namco insisted From make this.

[@zeterzero4356]

I like the idea but the predefined characters is...ech...we'll see.

[@licota11]

Im just getting it to finally play as a cool mage in a Fromsoft game

[@grazzhopper6799]

Is that a diss at mages in the games?

[@tachi5408]

We can finally have parties with different roles! Looking cool

[@yaawg]

Would this not be insane if they added a pvp / br element down the line? Youre all looting up fighting eachother and bosses whilst the ring slowly closses untill you all have to fight? Sounds amazing to me

[@Thixico]

yeah this game seems better suited for invasions and pvp than base ER. Easier to balance too because of hero classes existing

[@elymX]

They could added this as DLC easy. They can introduce a new character that can somehow transport them into an alternate dimension and that's it. But more Elden Ring is always welcome

[@Pantsu2getGAMES]

When I played elden ring through, I felt like it was perfect to have a roguelike mode when you're done and don't want to play PVP or play 100-hour long playthroughs. Since there are so many assets to find and bosses you can switch in and out. AND THEY ACTUALLY DID IT XD This is basically a roguelike elden ring

[@LilBleachThaGod]

seems more like like a dark souls game to play with friends casually with a randomizer system

[@unholymethod]

This kinda sounds like casually accessible boss rush with “Elden ring” stamped on it to grab new users

[@Wolfii13]

Yeah, it doesn’t feel like Elden Ring at all, at least at this point.

[@deep_bob-wk6nh]

@@Wolfii13 not supposed to it's a stand alone. Elder ring IP on it cause it allows to cut the massive cost of having to do assets from ground up which is pretty smart way to quickly make lot of content. It's a cool idea tbh and can be a fun time with friends to have some fun. Instead of the long epic journey as elden ring does.

[@slayer4932]

I’d take that over the trash open world

[@unholymethod]

@ I found the exploration similarity as challenging and rewarding as the boss fights… so I’m gonna have to disagree. But I’m sure there are others that feel the same as you.

[@KevinSatron]

And there's nothing wrong with that at all

[@plastic.spoons]

I think if there's one thing FromSoft has shown it's that they know how to nail the fundamentals. That gives me so much more hope for this, even though it is a wildly different direction. With Elden Rings Open World and even some risks they took with the new weapons and systems in the DLC, I think they've shown they can handle different directions while still providing that solid framework. I am excited, and I suspect this will bring in new players that can't stomach RPGs typically, even if it will lose some fans who can't stomach rougelikes. Personally, a FromSoft rougelike with some meta progression is so perfect for my tastes I hadn't even considered it enough to ask for it, I am very excited, if a little nervous.

[@MDWavemaster]

I here for this! Cant wait. Played Survival in The Division 1 a TON. This is amazing.

[@benlogan4038]

Nicely explained. Thank you! Hope single player is fully fleshed out and fun

[@augustday9483]

One thing I really enjoy doing in Elden Ring and past Souls titles is to co-op with people online, helping them fight boss fights. One issue is that there can be a lot of waiting between getting summoned, and if I want to try out a new build I have to spend hours collecting the equipment and either respec or spend dozens of hours leveling up another alt. For somebody like me who loves the co-op of Souls games, this feels like a concept that would appeal to me greatly. No grinding for builds, no waiting for summons. Just drop into a quick session to do some randomized co-op. I'm excited!

[@JoniSusi]

6:50 nice dog

[@HavelsRing96]

Now we need a pvp focus game where theres no turning off taunters toungue and 6 player limit at least

[@Swissgar0]

Right?

[@DreyfusLagoon]

I don’t know about all that, as someone who replays these games only for invasions I don’t think that’s a good idea. There needs to be stipulations to be invaded no matter what

[@MaxHaydenChiz]

This does a better job explaining the game than anything else I've seen. Great work!

[@_dibbs]

this is the perfect opportunity to bring back 4 player co op from DS3 and yet they still don't, such a missed opportunity imo especially for a game like this

[@Thixico]

6 player worlds would go hard but i'm pretty sure this is just for testing purposes

[@wrasse1155]

Looks pretty fun, I'm optimistic, hopefully not a new norm. It's also a good way From can give us bosses that didn't make it into the full game. (Pretty cool but weird seeing Nameless King. Idk how to feel about Nightreign being a crossover with Dark Souls) Edit: typo

[@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092]

Did you pay attention to any lore of any of the previous Souls games? Like at all? Interconnected worlds have been a concept since DS1. Solaire himself talked about heroes from other worlds being interconnected. Sure you can think that’s just talking about co-op but that’s small minded like come on it’s FROMSOFT we’re talking about, they NEVER have stuff that simple in their lore.

[@wrasse1155]

@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092 Yeah, there is lore justification for it, not a cop-out. But usually the interconnectedness is shown through things like the moonlight greatsword or Patches, not major story bosses (ik nameless is optional but his lore is significant. I do pay attention to it 😘) Tbh I think it works for this type of game though (Edit: considering the Orenstein user I will shoutout Old Dragonslayer ik I forgot about him lmao)

[@elias.t]

@@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092 The only games I can stretch to say might be set in the same world maybe are Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. Even then there are too many differences in the roots of the lore for it to be true. Trying to cram all the different metaphysics across FromSoft's library into the same sausage only results in a distasteful mess. Don't mistake references and creator signatures for proof.

[@mt2r-music]

This doesn’t feel like something FromSoft would do. Especially not for the same or similar price as SotE. It feels cheap and out of character. Not the concept itself but the exekution. Centipede demon, firekeeper, the nameless king? Even the trailer looks like its for a fan mod. Don’t get me wrong I’m a FromSoft meat rider but only if they make actually good stuff, which they have so far.

[@JellyJman]

This is actually exactly what Fromsoft would do back before they started making souls games. Look at their back catalog and you can tell this is kinda in line with their history

[@SerPodrick]

It sounds like an Elden Ring mod pack. Yui 's got competition now

[@Sophiacuity]

I had a dream about this. The map was randomly generated and I was playing it with my bf

[@Loretic42069]

If I'm actually able to play it solo. Already sold. But if it's forced online, I may not buy it because I mostly play games solo. I'm already not a super big fan of the hero-type games, but I love rouge-likes so I'll keep my hope and hype.

[@justanothercommentercarryo8367]

singleplayer listing on steam, up to 3 players I think. So you're gold.

[@midorayo1149]

Ign said that its wither solo play or 3 players

[@CosmicVoid_119]

The games bosses will be balanced and designed arounf have 3 player even if you can play solo it will be a miserable time

[@SanjeevRau]

This is a massive bummer

[@DallasPurdum]

Optimistic, From gets one stinker before I'd cast any doubt on their upcoming projects, I think I'll enjoy this because I generally enjoy the early to mid game getting a build together to show off in co-op. Most of my characters I never bother to take into the late game unless I absolutely must have a piece of equipment gated behind Ashen Leyndell.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Lol

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Same

[@cjyoung5635]

What piece of equipment would you absolutely need from ashen leyndell? Only thing I can think of is the sacred relic sword for farming the albs in mohgs palace.

[@LZ02-OVERTURE]

From have already made subpar games before like Ninja Blade but bounced back fine. In fact the game they made after Ninja Blade was Demon's Souls. lol people doomposting for no reason.

[@DreyfusLagoon]

@@cjyoung5635what’s the point of farming when you can just play the game naturally?

[@dananthony6258]

Dude up you get an instant sub for life just for being invited. ER is my favorite game I’ve ever played in all my 48 years. I’m talking about pitfall ATARI and Mike Tyson’s punch out old schooler.

[@XRaYMan4225X]

I really hope they use this as an opportunity to have a Godwyn boss battle

[@sebrij]

I feel like it’s a big shame there’s no pvp, having another team drop on the map and trying to kill eachother + trying to kill the boss would make it more replayable and unoredictable, something like hunt showdown where you have groups trying to kill the bosses and themselves + the enviroment, would still retain the atmosphere and difficulty of elden ring while keeping it more contained

[@icaroson]

Net code on FS games is terrible, and there's hackers too. Would be a nice addition though, like a betrayal mechanic.

[@Thixico]

yeah co op without pvp is a little odd for a FS title but who knows. Maybe they'll have you fight your friends sometimes because of "insanity" or "a combat trial". This game seems better suited for invaders than OG elden ring funnily enough.

[@CosmicVoid_119]

You guys would just complain about every character being broken and needing a nerf

[@blackmane1999]

Is this only online or can we still play single player/offline ?

[@Hel1mutt]

@blackmane1999 you can play it offline if you want

[@blackmane1999]

@ thanks for replying! Then i am super excited!

[@mouse_bone]

I wonder why they decided to make this game surrounding Elden Ring and Dark Souls instead of releasing it as a seperate title. They've always reused assets, animations, and enemies while making new titles, why not do that here? Why take away from the success of previous games by cheapening those game's story experiences? This should be a whole seperate title. It looks awesome, don't get me wrong, but I would have played it without them needing to ride the hype of Elden Ring and using emotional nostalgia by including Dark Souls lore that doesn't belong in Elden Ring's world.

[@MooTheDog72]

Feels like one of those cinder mods on pc

[@mouse_bone]

@@MooTheDog72 when I first saw it, it wasn't from the game awards stream so I legitimately thought it was a trailer for a mod until I looked it up

[@MooTheDog72]

@@mouse_bone it pretty much is.. seamless co-op, cinders, and randomizer.. and a 3 day time limit

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

It's not in Elden Ring's world, from what we understand so far it _is_ a completely alternate universe. It's understandable that the reused assets to make this alternate universe is mostly Elden Ring as that's their most recent project that also has the necessary world size to make the game's concept work.

[@bricklegends6103]

The fact that there are predefined characters is a big negative for me. I don’t understand why they made that choice. A big seller of a fantasy world is the fact that I as a player get to choose my identity. That’s just a dumb decision in my opinion.

[@PrimeTimePaulyRat]

I am most excited about the character being built around the Sekiro parry.

[@WackyJacky500]

For anyone complaining....FromSoft has earned our trust, give them a chance - this isn't ubisoft. Also, absolutely NO ONE expected ANYTHING Elden Ring...and we are getting a whole new game this year. I'm all for criticising scumbag companies and awful practices in the industry....but this is an instance where fans should be grateful.

[@needmorequarts1081]

Well we fromsoft fan knew that the age of fire is ending,this is not fromsoft game,even doubt it has souls to begin with, fromsoft has gone into hollow.

[@Anchor-Supreme]

@@needmorequarts1081wtf are you on about? “Gone hollow”? What exactly has From done since the launch of ER to make you question them and their game quality? I’m genuinely curious.

[@WackyJacky500]

@@needmorequarts1081 They are probably making this game as a means to experiment and evolve their existing multiplayer functions, which is largely unchanged since Dark Souls 1. This game is going to make the multiplayer of their next mainline RPG that much better. Again dude......give them a chance.

[@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092]

@@needmorequarts1081the age of fire ending was the whole point of DS1-3, it’s a good thing as weird as that sounds. This is such a fantastic idea to experiment with multiplayer for future mainline games. Keep hating like all the self proclaimed “FromSoft fans” who have always complained even about Sekiro, Bloodborne, and DS3.

[@needmorequarts1081]

@@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092 nah this ain't it,been fromsoft fan from armored core era and before souls game ever released or in conception,this type of game is not fromsoft would made but this is something that Sony would made,I can even smelled the live service that would entailed to this game and after kadokawa has been bought by Sony my trust or the trust of fromsoft fan has already fade since we're loyal to Miyazaki and not to the fromsoft name.