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Top 10 QUICKEST MUSCLE CARS Of 1970s

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@user-ns8ex2bb9j
@user-ns8ex2bb9j 7 ай бұрын
If u aint pulling gears manually... just get urself a grocery getter. Automatic transmissions to this day are a MUSCLE CAR CRIME
@392scatpack3
@392scatpack3 Ай бұрын
I never see no stick shift car I run transmission fluid at the drag strip. My 400 3500 stall. No problem in my 68 Camaro back in the day
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 23 күн бұрын
Yeah manuals are fun and I agree but today tech is much better you can get more gears tighter gear ratios and a tq converter with very snappy shifts. Drag racing has always used autos as a primary. The muscle car was made to drag race. They just happen to have manuals for price and simplicity. Not much has changed other than the autos have gotten better and manuals are being phased out sadly but then again all muscle cars are being phased out along with the ice v8 so really what do you do. Today the hardcore lovers of performance that like manuals that don’t want the limitations typically go for a sequential dog box where you can continuously pull gears quickly getting all the satisfaction and control but no slow shifts, mistakes, or limited gears. In drag racing you will hardly ever find anyone in the manual class or using things like no lift shift black magic clutches and things like this that cheat the experience for a time to be competitive.
@maxwellcrazycat9204
@maxwellcrazycat9204 10 ай бұрын
I had a 1970 Camaro and a 1979 Firebird. I miss them both. A lot of fun times.
@jimlamb5508
@jimlamb5508 26 күн бұрын
I had a 70 1/2 Z 28 also ordered in Okinawa and picked up in Charleston 18 months later, no ac, power steering plenty of power. Fun car when there were not too many cars on the road. The insurance had a COW due to the HP to weight ratio.
@user-fb7ol1em1i
@user-fb7ol1em1i 24 күн бұрын
In 1986 I had a 79 Poncho Trans Am. Loved the styling. T-Tops were the greatest but man the 403 Olds they stuck in it was a turd. My uncle had a 454 he'd pulled out of a 70 Monte Carlo SS, that he'd wrapped around a tree so I shoved it in the T/A, way too much vacuum tubing (not for the engine but man did everything in the car have something to do with vacuum) but we got it. Best summer of my life. Gas went from around $1.35 to $0.65 in a month and staid there. I was king of the back roads, or so I thought. Then like an A-Hole, I sold it when I went college. Should have kept the car, quit college after 2 quarters.
@robertgoulet1961
@robertgoulet1961 10 ай бұрын
I still have my 70 Challenger 340 4speed car from high school haven't raced it in 35 years but in nearly stock form, stock motor only had headers and 456 gears it did a 13.7 in the quarter, with internal upgrades high compression 12.5 pistons Victor intake fairly big hydraulic cam .500" lift duration 244 degrees at .050" lift and 106 centerline car ran 12.7 at 107 that was really good for a kid in high school in the mid 80s that was also a daily driver, actually never towed it the the track to race always drove it, being the only source of transportation I owned!!!
@hughjass1835
@hughjass1835 8 ай бұрын
That's a damn lie. A 426 hemi with 4.10 rear took 14 seconds to do the quarter. No way your stock 340 was that fast
@tomdelaney2480
@tomdelaney2480 8 ай бұрын
We had a guy that ran a 340 duster with Plumb Crazy on the rear quarters--the big blocks in town could not catch him!!
@robinsattahip2376
@robinsattahip2376 10 ай бұрын
Fun cars from a much happier time.
@bobsilver3983
@bobsilver3983 10 ай бұрын
Pre NWO times
@terrywalker9092
@terrywalker9092 11 ай бұрын
In 1981 I turned 18. For my birthday my father bought me 1973 Trans Am SD. It was white with the blue firebird. It was 4spd . No factory a/c. It had 2 pull levers on each side of the front kick panels that opened vents. I kept it a year. We had a really bad snow storm and I couldn't get out of the driveway ( several hundred yards long) for almost a month. So I sold it and bought a 4 wheel drive. I would give anything to have that car back! 😢
@user-xu9tx7jd2f
@user-xu9tx7jd2f 11 ай бұрын
Yea it's worth a fortune now
@smokinrz4063
@smokinrz4063 10 ай бұрын
I passed on a 73 SD for $2,750 in 1982 😭 @@user-xu9tx7jd2f
@rottman88
@rottman88 10 ай бұрын
Those 73 Trans Am 455 are so cool. My similar story. I bought a 71 Boss 351. I was 17. My father was a service manager at a Ford dealership and knew a mechanic who had it for sale. Later, I needed a 4x4 to help get to work as I was married and starting a family. My Boss 351 Mustang wound up being sold under very similar condition that I obtained it.
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
Being a MOPAR fan since I was 7 years old when my parents bought a 69 Roadrunner brand new, 383 auto, and my LEO dad chased and ticketed a speeder on the Interstate one night from a 70 roll, and myself having a stock 71 Charger R/T in 78 (440 4bbl) and now a much faster 70 Roadrunner 440 6bbl, I definitely admire BOTH the 73 455 SD and the 351 Cleveland based Boss. With a much needed upgrade in compression ratio and a hotter cam, the 455 SD was truly a RACE motor, and I have TREMENDOUS respect and awe for Pontiac doing that in 1973 as all other American V-8s were taking their last gasp. The Boss 351 likewise really needed a better cam and larger carburetor, and a single plane intake and headers would make it a FORCE to contend with!
@terrywalker9092
@terrywalker9092 10 ай бұрын
I loved the 351 Boss. It was a great car. I had a 69 chevelle with a 350/300 hp motor. Had the turbo 350 tranny. I raced a '71 boss 351 with a 4sp manual. We were neck and neck the whole race. I still love mustangs, I own one. But Chevy and Dodge have a special place in my heart with the push rod motor!
@airforceveteran71
@airforceveteran71 11 ай бұрын
Love to have all of these in a climate controlled garage and take one out every weekend for some fun...thanks for sharing.
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
"The Brothers" car collection is truly the ultimate example of what you describe. It's like a time machine taking you to the ULTIMATE car meet of the 60s and 70s.
@kurtwise7356
@kurtwise7356 9 ай бұрын
Great video but as I had a 70 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6 with a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher and did a lot of drag racing I beat #2 and #1 on your list consistently!
@Barefoot-Bob
@Barefoot-Bob 7 ай бұрын
the part he leaves out is all those magazine reported 1/4 mile times did not include a simple tire change. so ya the results will vary , and the 454 ls6 put out the most hp. with the possible exception of the zl1 all aluminum 427, copo in vettes and i have heard a few copo camaros
@envoke209
@envoke209 8 ай бұрын
All amazing cars thaf seem only available in dreams. My father had a 1970 superbird roadrunner with the 440 six pack and never lost to anything, unfortunately he had to sell it in the 90s due to divorce. 😢
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
I love all the stories true and false 😂 Although growing up 1960-78 in the Motor City I witnessed alot of races where a monster cars got taken to school because of either bad driver or torching the tires. Friday and Saturday nights on telegraph road was the place to see the big dog's battle. I have to say that stage 1 Buicks were not to be messed with. We are talking wheels up lite to lite racing. Especially after Detroit dragway let out. Best of times ❤
@joshgessinger4509
@joshgessinger4509 10 ай бұрын
Man wish i could of lived in the good old days of America mussel or just good old America for that matter. Now cars cost so much money u meed a second Job and mortgage lol!! Iv heard the Buick’s were one of the fastest muscle cars that or the chevelle 454. But so many different brands and models to choose from must of been like living in heaven lol
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@joshgessinger4509 For sure, only wealthy people can afford a car anymore. We used to be able to afford necessities, not anymore. My first car Was a 65 289 hi po mustang for $300 Today $300 won't buy you a headlight 🙄
@Paultricounty
@Paultricounty 9 ай бұрын
They also left out American motors AMX and the Oldsmobile HO 442 Hurst olds.
@nedaCFilms
@nedaCFilms 10 ай бұрын
These top 5 models were a “drivers & options” race as all of them were capable of similar times and came down to which options they had and who was driving.
@bobsilver3983
@bobsilver3983 10 ай бұрын
Early 70's Baldwin Motion Camaro's were 11 second cars at 125 mph in the quarter mile.
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 5 ай бұрын
Mopars still.faster 490 foot pounds of tourque at 159mph in s 69 charger
@dptp9lf
@dptp9lf 11 ай бұрын
I had a 70 chevelle ss with the ls6 and a 71 charger R/T with a 440 magnum... wish i had them both back
@dougweeks9288
@dougweeks9288 6 ай бұрын
Would love to see the stats on the 70 AMX 390 , the lightest pony car by 200lbs and a real rocket
@jeremyk3320
@jeremyk3320 10 ай бұрын
I’d be very curious to see what some of those cars with the automatics would do with modern 8 to 10 speed transmissions
@U2haveanicedayty2
@U2haveanicedayty2 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing such Beautiful Beasts.Part of my childhood as well.💯✌️
@woltzwurld6760
@woltzwurld6760 10 ай бұрын
I graduated high school in 1986, lots of these cars were in the parking lot. As a rule, they were “ unrestored”, maybe an engine overhaul. Oh and primer….lots of primer 😊
@BBBILLY86
@BBBILLY86 7 ай бұрын
Great list of rock stars, surprised the 1970 Nova 396 didn't show up.
@gsitzkowitz
@gsitzkowitz 11 ай бұрын
I have to say I've watched many of these comparisons and this is the first that had the Buick Stage behind the LS6 and Hemi Roadrunners of the day. In fact Popular Hot Rodding caused quite a stir over dubbing the Buick Stage 1 drag pack the Hemi killer!
@joshgessinger4509
@joshgessinger4509 10 ай бұрын
Thats what iv heard saw or researched lol!! The Chevy 2 Nova SS 396 had a almost unbeatable poser to weight ratio not mentioned. The 302 camaro was a big block killer what about the 396 camaro. This guys just throwing shit out there had no clue. No Shelby GT 500 it smoked the mack 1.
@user-rv3cm7hv3l
@user-rv3cm7hv3l 10 ай бұрын
@@joshgessinger4509The title of this video is "quickest cars of the 70's. The cars you mentioned are all or mostly 60's
@joshgessinger4509
@joshgessinger4509 10 ай бұрын
@@user-rv3cm7hv3l guess ur right i missed that lol
@breldsystem6149
@breldsystem6149 9 ай бұрын
The Buick stage 1 was way underrated in horse power. It was just a bit heavier body that kept it from getting out of the hole for the 1/4 mile and it would burn rubber each time it shifted. With slicks it’s a 12 second machine.
@Paultricounty
@Paultricounty 9 ай бұрын
No LS6 Camaro, no 427 Vetts. Wtf.
@javiersosa7990
@javiersosa7990 6 ай бұрын
That was awesome thank you for showing
@lisa-lg9vk
@lisa-lg9vk 10 ай бұрын
First of all I'm not Lisa, that's my wife and I wanted to say I was around and racing Saturday nights back when these cars were new or only a few years old. I had a Chevelle SS396, and every car mentioned on the video and in the comments showed up one night or another including the Buick Stage One and if the couple Cudas 426 Hemis showed up the rest of us were running for third place. Unless the guys with the 440 six packs were there too, then the rest of us were spectators. Fortunately for the rest of us the mopars were fickle, always throwing themselves out of tune and out of the night.
@Chuck59ish
@Chuck59ish 11 ай бұрын
Great video, I was 20 years old in 1972, and by then everything had an air pump for emissions.
@philsocks3386
@philsocks3386 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and compression was dropped down.
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 10 ай бұрын
The 71 Boss 351 was quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 71 429SCJ.
@broncorickenback1149
@broncorickenback1149 7 ай бұрын
I remember them being 14 second machine
@Brewstew2
@Brewstew2 6 ай бұрын
I had a 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 351 Grande and it would smoke the tires off if you didn’t watch. Wish i hadn’t had sold it…
@smilebig1000
@smilebig1000 11 ай бұрын
GS Stage1 455 is my cup of tea.
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 26 күн бұрын
I have a 1970 Skylark Custom 350 and a 1970 GS455 convertible. Both are about to be restored to their former glory. I might turn the convertible into a Stage 1 or Stage 2. Let's see, if I can afford it first.
@flywheel986
@flywheel986 11 ай бұрын
Got the order wrong for the street race scene. Cowl inducted 70 Chevelle 454 SS was unbeatable, because of the quick application of torque to 🎡 power. Ruined many a Cobra and Hemi's day, had lot's of fun. Ran mine on aviation grade fuel only. Still wish I had it, only car I ever named.
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
Myself destroyed a 70 454 Chevelle with a 351cj Torino 😮 all I did was add1970 quence chamber heads, elderbrock aluminum intake, Holley 780, mild Crane cam, headers.
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
Never ran against a '70 Cuda 440 supercommando did you? You would have lost, no matter which of these cars you chose!!
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
The chevellle 454 LS6 Couldn't beat a cuda 440 supercommando!!
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
One of Fords fastest Mustangs that no one ever mentioned is the 351cj Cleveland. This was offered in Torino's also till 1972. Was known as the big block killer. Chevy guys didn't like it 😅
@jjtool5800
@jjtool5800 10 ай бұрын
Boss 351 I think you mean?
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@jjtool5800 yes there was a boss351 and also A 351 ho and cj
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@jjtool5800 the boss 351 had solid lifters a bigger cam and Holley carb
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
As a #1 Mopar fan and owner, a 71 HP440 4BBL in 78 and now, a 70 440 6bbl Roadrunner 4 speed w/4.10 gears, I will say the Cleveland based Boss 351 is one hell of a well designed performance engine.
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@avman1339 thanks Mr Morepower 😁 I used to get a ride in a 1966 charger 383 to Boy scouts. And my neighbor 3doors down Had a 70 superbee 440 6 pack with the hood ram air with teeth. I absolutely Fell in Love with those cars. I would take any muscle car from 1963- 72 Over any new car.
@69Hurst442
@69Hurst442 9 ай бұрын
Wow. All these street machines are amazing and beautiful. I wonder how many are hidden away in residential neighborhood garages. My guess would be probably a lot. I really miss those days, because it was the last time hipo cars were built before the malaise days that started in the mid 70’s. At least I have my memories of what was.
@gone547
@gone547 10 ай бұрын
The best two motors of the day, the LT-1 and the almighty L88. Chevrolet of course.
@TG-ix9id
@TG-ix9id 10 ай бұрын
Their engines were even better!
@chriskakakis1796
@chriskakakis1796 10 ай бұрын
He missed quite a few contenders, boss 429, any Camaro, chevelle, Nova, with or without the yenko package, 427 fairlane, the list goes on!!!!!
@williepelzer384
@williepelzer384 11 ай бұрын
You got the wrong LIST! I LIVED IT.
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 11 ай бұрын
Wrong about the Mustangs. The first redesign came in 1967-1968, then again in 1969-1970 with the Boss 302 and Mach 1...then the 1971 SCJ and Boss 351 Mustangs.
@mickden3155
@mickden3155 9 ай бұрын
Correct ive owned all 3 models
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 9 ай бұрын
I'd trade my 97 Saleen Speedster for the 71 Boss 351@@mickden3155
@bartbullock7817
@bartbullock7817 10 ай бұрын
I am older than dirt, While working at blue max in dallas, We put a 455 pontiac,on the dyno,factory exh.intake,carb,& a 1 year only cam,( it idled to rough)510 hp.570fpt.5500 redline,he was turning low 10s automatic trans.94 octane...facts (1980)
@Maoshung
@Maoshung 6 ай бұрын
Got a 73 SD455 manual trans with matching numbers and love it. They are very rare!
@geec5636
@geec5636 23 күн бұрын
A weired sleeper by far was my Dad's 1966 Toronado with a 455 4bbl. He used to smoke people at the green lights.
@johnfloyd838
@johnfloyd838 Ай бұрын
My favorite car is definitely the Oldsmobile cutlass, I bought my 1st cutlass from my good friend in highschool and I fixed it up and I took it to the atco speedway in Atco new jersey and it ran the 1/4 mile in the low 12s without nitrous and I absolutely loved it ❤️😎👍
@confuse9
@confuse9 10 ай бұрын
For those that don't know, the 426 Hemi was still available up to 1971. They raised the idle speed a bit to smooth cylinder to cylinder balance for better emissions. Other than that, it was unchanged. At the other end of the 70s, dodge made a pickup called "The Little Red Truck" - apparently trucks weren't as heavily held back by emissions - not to mention insurance tended to be less. Pontiac offered the 455 until 1976. Last of the real muscle cars. Note, the 455 without the forged rods were limited to about 5000rpm. Those cast iron connecting rods sucked. Pontiac would sell the connecting rods into the 80s and I remember gasping at the $110 each price. This was before Eagle made their rods.
@mikee2923
@mikee2923 7 ай бұрын
Pontiac continued on passed 1976 when GM canceled all 455 engines. The Pontiac 455 from 1975-1976 was only making 200 HP but still made an impressive amount of torque. In 1977 they came out with the W72 400 for use in the Trans Am and the 1977 Can Am. It was rated the same 200 HP as the previous year’s 455 but didn’t produce quite as much torque. They made improvements in 1978 to raise the W72’s output to 220 HP that continued until the 400 was canceled for 1979. Pontiac built and set aside several thousand W72 400s for the 10th Anniversary Trans Am for the 79 model year. Pontiac did the best they could to keep high performance alive until GM corporate killed it off completely.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 11 ай бұрын
No Olds 442, or 1970 AMC AMX!? A very incomplete list.
@Tom-yj6mt
@Tom-yj6mt 10 ай бұрын
I have a 71 442 that I've had sense high school back in the 80s. Was a quick car. I raised the compression and put a cam in it. I won my fair share of street races with it. Not to mention I drove it like the general lee, minus the jumps. Now she's in pieces in my garage, hopefully I'll get it put back together in a few years.
@michaellange6598
@michaellange6598 10 ай бұрын
No Mopar 340 duster?
@tbd-1
@tbd-1 10 ай бұрын
@@michaellange6598 'cause it's a secret 🙊
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156 8 ай бұрын
I had a 71 Charger RT 440 . Only lost one race with that car 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@michaelguerin4618
@michaelguerin4618 10 ай бұрын
What about the Boss 351 mustang that was faster than the 429 scj mustang
@z512345
@z512345 8 ай бұрын
You forgot the big daddy of them all! The 1969 427 L88 Corvette.
@taxpayer2505
@taxpayer2505 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but too bad 69 is not in the 70's
@Fred_NaughT
@Fred_NaughT 8 ай бұрын
Corvette is also considered a sports car and not a muscle car but the L88's were definitely screamers !
@marcuskarlsson
@marcuskarlsson 10 ай бұрын
1971 Trans Am 455 HO is the fastest Pontiac of the 70's. Not even on this list.
@loganlagace4046
@loganlagace4046 4 ай бұрын
1973 455 SD is faster and is on the list. 455 SUPER DUTY is a modified 455 HO from factory. 455ho is a high performance street engine. 455SD was a detuned race engine.
@felixmadison5736
@felixmadison5736 10 ай бұрын
You mean the pain in the ass of driving a manual transmission in traffic? Standard shift is cool when you're young, but gets old when you do! 😄
@ladonnaghareeb4609
@ladonnaghareeb4609 10 ай бұрын
Wow is that GS Stage 1 a beautiful car
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 26 күн бұрын
And really comfortable, if I may add.
@mikefrandle2407
@mikefrandle2407 3 ай бұрын
I have a 1970 Challenger Rt 440 4 speed with the dana rear end 410 gears! WTH around 500hp it’s A really fun car to drive!
@jamesdavis6036
@jamesdavis6036 11 ай бұрын
Top 3 fastest 70s muscle cars in no particular order, 70 Buick Stage 1 70 Hemi Cuda 70 Chevelle LS6
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
You forgot 70 Boss 429
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
​@@iggyfritz7150Great NASCAR engine, and no slouch on the 1320, but stock on the street, not so great.
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@avman1339 your right of the showroom floor but a little tunning and better tires it was a monster. in 1994 the claimed fastest street car In America was a Boss 429. Myself beat some 13 Sec cars on the street with a 302. 2bbl single exhaust 70 stang coupe. Most muscle cars suffered either poor driver or poor traction. A friend had a 440 tri power built by Ramchargers and only ran a 14 sec 1/4 mile because it spin through all 4 gears
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
The fastest would have been the Cuda440 supercommando!!
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
@@iggyfritz7150 that would have been the driver's fault! !
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 11 ай бұрын
Hilarious that these great sounding V8 muscle cars are now in the ball park of a .... BASE 2024 Mustang ECOBOOST 4 CYLINDER !!
@justme307
@justme307 11 ай бұрын
It's called progress. Compare a 19" CRT TV with today's 65" 4K TV. Or compare an IBM S/360 mainframe to a iPhone's A16 Bionic CPU. You get the idea?
@theoterrell2010
@theoterrell2010 10 ай бұрын
Rite
@raoulduke3770
@raoulduke3770 9 ай бұрын
Yes, hilarious that technology actually improved over the last 50 years. Who would have guessed!
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 Ай бұрын
Though the 413 max wedges were the kings in 1962, they would not run 11’s out of the showroom floor. Slicks and some prep would get you there. Also 1962 Catalinas were nowhere near 3500 lbs. More like 3800 lbs. This list is pretty spot on though.
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
I have to add the sd455 was another bad boy also Buick GS, Mopar A12 440, of course Hemis and wedges. The v6 Buicks killed everyone. Just sharing what I witnessed. I'm actually a true blue Ford Man, I can hear the "so sorry for you"😂 it doesn't matter I Love them all even the 390 AMC 😅 which was a serious contender. Just To many to list. 🇺🇸🙏🤘💥
@jeffrobodine8579
@jeffrobodine8579 10 ай бұрын
You mean the turbo V-6 Buicks of the late 1970's pushing out 170 net horsepower?
@iggyfritz7150
@iggyfritz7150 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffrobodine8579 No the turbo gnx Buicks
@jeffrobodine8579
@jeffrobodine8579 10 ай бұрын
@@iggyfritz7150 That was all the way up in 1987.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 8 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you. AMC 390's & 401's were definitely bad-boys!
@darrellsomers5427
@darrellsomers5427 11 ай бұрын
Growing up my dad drove a 70 grabber blue torino cobra 429/4 speed fast car at 4.200 pounds heavier then any car on this list
@clevlandblock
@clevlandblock Ай бұрын
Decent review using original road test data with appropriate references.
@trucking604
@trucking604 Ай бұрын
The last video with the Plymouth Cuda. Only Dodge called the 3x2V a Six Pack, Plymouth called it a 6 Barrel.
@Weworkin2012
@Weworkin2012 8 ай бұрын
Wow that Buick though ❤😊
@frankjohnson6342
@frankjohnson6342 10 ай бұрын
Another video by someone who was either not alive or nowhere near the age of driving during this era of mid 60’s to very early 70’s when muscle cars were around so they get their information from people who exaggerate stories told them or those who grossly favor one car brand above all others or hear stories from people that know someone that owned a muscle car didn’t tell anyone that it was modified it but claimed it was stock, soon that particular car was something from folklore and legends of old about how fast his “stock car” was worlds quicker and faster than all others of the that time. Now I’m NOT a Chevy fan in the least, but not ONE Camaro with any size engine made the list? Yet you have two Pontiacs with the same size engine, one is a high compression lager valve heads the other is low compression with smaller valves yet they run the same times? Not possible. You have two 429 slug motors from Ford one in a Mustang the other in a Torino running times that must have been going downhill. Both of these cars would have been killed by the 428 CJ or SCJ from a year or two earlier. It’s like you figured if the 428 was fast then the 429 MUST be faster because it’s bigger. NO!! They are completely different engines and the 428 could probably win with a plug wire pulled off. Do some real research or write about something else.
@markauth1788
@markauth1788 10 ай бұрын
The 429 CJ and SCJ would mop up the 428 CJ or 428 SCJ. The FE engines were good engines but the 385 series engine was a better designed engine, with its canted valve heads and with the same modifications the 429 would outrun the 428 all day
@KZA518
@KZA518 10 ай бұрын
Yeah some people just be making claims or putting out false information on all types of topics… it’s like assuming the high output 289 had less power then the 302s from the same time… or I’ve heard the 327 Chevy small blocks were quicker or more powerful than the 350s at the time the 327s were around
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
For the 2 KZbin replies debating the 428 vs 429, I am a Mopar owner, 440 6bbl (now) and 440 4bbl back in 78, but I am very curious to know more about the differences in the 2 engines you are debating. Please make your case about the 428 and 429 in as much detail as possible, I'd like to learn more.
@Timmermon63
@Timmermon63 10 ай бұрын
I read this comment and agree. The first car was a boat.
@maxschut7093
@maxschut7093 10 ай бұрын
A 71 superbee with low enough gears to run that quick with that much weight will get nowhere near 142mph top end. Some fanboy fantasy stuff.
@permanentwaves4621
@permanentwaves4621 7 ай бұрын
Interesting story- I bought a 1971 Pontiac Grande Ville from the original owner in 1993. Had a 455 in it. She told me that right after she bought it, the motor "blew" and the dealer under warranty replaced it. She said instead of waiting for a brand new engine to arrive from Detroit, they had a totaled-out car "out back" in the yard that only had a few thousand miles on it, so she agreed to let them put that motor into her Grande Ville. So about a year later I had to go to Western Auto for something, I think a water pump, IDK. been 30 yrs ago, but the guy had to come out and read the numbers off my block and he asked me where this motor came from. I think there were some other things he noticed about the engine as well. I briefly told him what the lady had told me. He said it was an SD455 from a Trans Am. The Western Auto employee wanted to buy it from me on the spot. Of course I couldn't do that it was the only car I had. I went back and asked her what kind of car that motor came from and she said "some kind firebird or something they said it was- I noticed it ran a lot better than it did before..." And come to think of it, it could have an HO455 too. Lots of years and beers in between then and now.
@user-bi9fo3sx6l
@user-bi9fo3sx6l 5 ай бұрын
You may notice that every car here was in 1970 and 1971. Except the 1973 SD 455 Trans Am. Now imagine how all the other's mentioned here would run with lower compression like the SD had to deal with. If the SD were in 1970 for GM or 1971 for ford and dodge it may have taken first place. Maybe. Just saying it did quite well with low compression and emissions to keep up with all you mentioned. Loved your video.i subscribed.
@74SD455TA
@74SD455TA 6 ай бұрын
Nicely done!
@frankjohnson6342
@frankjohnson6342 10 ай бұрын
The 429 SCJ was only a mid 14 second car that looked mean but that was it, the colossal intake ports were not designed for street use but for NASCAR. On the street this motor was a slug, small blocks from Mopar, Chevy and even the Boss 351 or Boss 302 mustang would leave this engine in the dust on the street. Ford made a huge mistake by dropping the 428 CJ in favor of boat mooring.
@smokinrz4063
@smokinrz4063 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, I test drove a 429 SCJ drag pack Cyclone and it was so slow. My friends 69 Mach 1 428 was the only fast ford I ever rode in.
@user-mo9gt1zl2n
@user-mo9gt1zl2n 6 ай бұрын
I'm King of 1st Ave + 3rd ave / Bklyn N.Y. 1969 Plymouth GTX 436 Hemi, Mikey Thomson wide tires,Hooker Headers,410 rear, Hurst competition plus 4 speed stick shift, Black outside, white inside, Vinyl top, mags, on + on+ on. That car was my 2nd wife.
@thomasdrutschmann4653
@thomasdrutschmann4653 11 ай бұрын
Wunderful Generation Wundervoll Cars !!
@jimgoose9146
@jimgoose9146 4 ай бұрын
I think the cuda 426 was quicker than the 440 6 pack cuda..all those engines power ratings were underated.
@billythomas4029
@billythomas4029 3 ай бұрын
1987 Buick Grand National very fast car
@ladonnaghareeb4609
@ladonnaghareeb4609 10 ай бұрын
Look at the room in the engine compartment in the '70 GTO!
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 11 ай бұрын
Yep the cuda was bad ass for it’s time. The Hemi is still punching above it’s weight today. Unfortunately they are about 1000 lbs heavier today 🤣. Good video.
@pd07
@pd07 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 11 ай бұрын
@@pd07 No thank you for the entertainment, well done. 👍
@thomasthurston6656
@thomasthurston6656 11 ай бұрын
Buick beat the HEMI Cuda.
@avman1339
@avman1339 10 ай бұрын
​@thomasthurston6656 Buick GSX 455 Stage 1 vs 426 Hemi Cuda both STOCK is a great race, granted, BUT a little work and like many other engines (440 6 Pack, 454, etc) that would "run with" or even nose out the Hemi, when the mods start, the Hemi heads really show the excellent design for ultimate POWER.
@thomasthurston6656
@thomasthurston6656 10 ай бұрын
@@avman1339 HEMI Junk.
@christophersanders5007
@christophersanders5007 11 ай бұрын
Back in 1977 I bought a 1970 SS 396 Chevelle for only $800 with 70,000 original miles. In the early 80's I pulled out the tired 396, and dropped in a large oval port 454 out of a 1976 C30 Chevy truck. After rebuilding the engine with 11:1 pistons, 260 degree @ 0.50 duration RV cam, and tunnel ram that car could do 11.90's @ 110 MPH in the quarter mile at OCIR.
@cap6159
@cap6159 11 ай бұрын
What did you do with the original 402 that came out of it? Was it the original engine that came with the car?
@christophersanders5007
@christophersanders5007 11 ай бұрын
@@cap6159 Yes it was the original engine. By the early 80's the engine had about 140,000 miles on it. The heads where junk, and I gave the block to a friend of mine that had a 1966 Stingray with a 396 in it.
@danjohnson5355
@danjohnson5355 10 ай бұрын
Aren't the 396 and 454 the same block? Why didn't you rebuild the 396 and keep it original equipment?
@smokinrz4063
@smokinrz4063 10 ай бұрын
Because it was just a used car back then, why rebuild a 402 when you could rebuild a 454 with a $100 core.
@christophersanders5007
@christophersanders5007 10 ай бұрын
@@danjohnson5355 The original heads where clapped out, and not rebuildable without great expense that those heads where not worth it.
@frankmckay905
@frankmckay905 10 ай бұрын
1964 Ford 427 Thunderbolt SOHC. NASCAR banned them.
@Fred_NaughT
@Fred_NaughT 8 ай бұрын
The thunderbolt Wasn't street legal.
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 10 ай бұрын
Let's do a list of the fastest of the slowest cars of all time. Neat!
@larrymiller4813
@larrymiller4813 7 ай бұрын
I'm a GM guy but those chargers were the best looking things coming out of motor city.
@abcmatt
@abcmatt 11 ай бұрын
6:16 That looks to be still a hardtop and not a pillared coupe. Pillared coupes didn't have wind down rear windows.
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 10 ай бұрын
Forgot the W-30 442.
@sportbikejesus6297
@sportbikejesus6297 7 ай бұрын
Damnnn cars were so slow back then
@johnheath2406
@johnheath2406 5 ай бұрын
The 1974 GMH torana slr5000 L34 with its 308ci race motor from factory did 13.1sec times on 14 x 7 rims. Australia wins again. 263 were built.
@coolbreeze253
@coolbreeze253 10 ай бұрын
Wish I still had my 1970 GS Stage 1. Oddly, my 2023 Genesis G70 3.3 turbo AWD (with just K & N air filters added) has a quarter mile time slightly quicker than the Buick.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 8 ай бұрын
Nothing against your Genesis [respect] but that car ain't got no soul compared to that Stage-1.
@jimwoods3742
@jimwoods3742 11 ай бұрын
I like your list but there weren't no 70 Stingray Corvette on there
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps because corvettes were POS!!
@joeayers3777
@joeayers3777 6 ай бұрын
They aren't comparing boat anchors.
@Hardy_H_H
@Hardy_H_H 10 ай бұрын
A three zero two 😅😅😅. What fucking AI is doing the voice over for this one?
@bretz71
@bretz71 10 ай бұрын
They instantly lost all credibility when he said "Three zero two."
@hughjass1835
@hughjass1835 8 ай бұрын
AI doesn't know the difference
@donwilber1628
@donwilber1628 7 ай бұрын
My how the strong had fallen. The difference between that '73 Trans Am, and the '78 that I owned was huge. In '78, mine had a wimpy 180 HP, and couldn't even spin the rear tires on dry pavement. But it sure looked good...like the Smokie & the Bandit TA.
@michaellopez4018
@michaellopez4018 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner w/383, 4speed Muncie back in high school for $200.00!
@matthewmason5759
@matthewmason5759 9 ай бұрын
Are the same guy that did showcase for Need for speed road and track back in the 90s??😮
@PatientXero607
@PatientXero607 8 ай бұрын
The air-grabber on the Road Runner wasn't power assisted (hydraulic). It was vacuum assisted. Dodge had the rights for the 440 Six-Pack moniker. Plymouth couldn't use it, so it was 440-6 (6-barrel) in their model line. You don't call a 'Cuda a Six-Pack. That's for Challenger, Charger and Coronet.
@georgestrickland9278
@georgestrickland9278 11 ай бұрын
i'll take that buick gs stage 1 over all the rest
@socialismsux2261
@socialismsux2261 11 ай бұрын
Finally found me one a few years ago. Love it!! 44-speed car to boot. Been wanting one for over 30 years
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 10 ай бұрын
I once rode in and drove a '70 ', Cuda it had a 440 super commando, Dyno tested right out of the showroom pushing 456hp it ran an 11 second 1/4 mile at around 130 mph, It would bring the front wheels off the ground, with a 160mph speedo that I'm sure it could bury the speedo!!
@gregbarhorst3986
@gregbarhorst3986 10 ай бұрын
That’s totally BS mid 13’s at best and the only way it pulled the wheels was with a jack😂
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 10 ай бұрын
If you ran 130 in the 1/4 you would be in the 9s and making 700 hp. I call BS too.
@donsims1941
@donsims1941 10 ай бұрын
🙄🤣 TIME SLIP OR IT NEVER HAPPENED 😂 SO MANY 11& 12 second street cars show up to the track the first time and get 14 and 15 second TIME SLIPS 🤦🤣
@frankjohnson6342
@frankjohnson6342 9 ай бұрын
A 440 4 barrel that made 456hp from the factory that could run 11s at 130mph never existed in the real world or any other world. You sound like a 12 year old that NEVER rode in anything faster than mom and dad’s 318 9 passenger station wagon then someone gave you a ride in their 440 and told you a bunch of nonsense about it and you being 12 years old believed everything they said because it was the fastest thing you ever rode in. A stock 440 “might” hit 130 mph in 11 seconds if it fell out a plane but only once. Mopar didn’t put a 160 mph speedometer in the 440 six pack or a Hemi so why would a single 4 barrel 440 get one? I would say you can bury that 160 mph speedometer and whole story with a shovel.😂😂
@Defcon666
@Defcon666 10 ай бұрын
I remember when the Iroc came out in the early 80's, it looked super cool , but was a lame duck on horsepower emission control was starting to take over and kill the HP .
@jeffa.8976
@jeffa.8976 9 ай бұрын
Different era, but I have a 13 BMW 535 M-Sport. It's a 4150 lb full size luxury car. Stock they run 14.0. But with an engine ECU & transmission tune & the Cat removed it now runs a 12.9. Not trying to compare it to old or modern muscle cars, but I had fun tuning it and messing with the ecu and shift points to get my best quarter mile time. I drive it year round in Edmonton Canada cuz its AWD.
@darrellsomers5427
@darrellsomers5427 8 ай бұрын
The SD 455 was quick for a low compression engine ,compared to the other cars on this list ,but the 70 torino cobra with a 429 SCJ weighed in at 4.200 LBS the heaviest car on the list rated at 375 HP it weighed 500 plus more pounds then other cars on this list and still ran 13.3 do the math knock off 500 pounds and that would put it in the 12's
@1972Ventura455ho
@1972Ventura455ho 7 ай бұрын
I laugh when he said the SD 455 had a higher compression ratio, it only had 8.4 compression.
@Bricklinsv1970
@Bricklinsv1970 8 ай бұрын
I like the GS Stage 1.
@josephdovi1565
@josephdovi1565 11 ай бұрын
70 Charger RT 440 six pack 390 hp
@chadhaire1711
@chadhaire1711 10 ай бұрын
WRONG..390 was the fake gross rating, actual hp was only 325 NET
@JrGoonior
@JrGoonior 10 ай бұрын
@@chadhaire1711 Actually 385hp gross, 330 NET. the 440 Six-Pack survived for a VERY short time for 72 and had the 330 hp NET rating.
@chadhaire1711
@chadhaire1711 10 ай бұрын
@@JrGoonior MOPAR says 390/325
@gregmooney4090
@gregmooney4090 10 ай бұрын
i will take one of each thank you
@michaelcarmean4906
@michaelcarmean4906 8 ай бұрын
Buick Also Offered… Stage 2 455 Option ✅ Very Few Of Those… Very Few Stage 1 455 As Well
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 26 күн бұрын
I love the comments, from car enthusiasts below.
@TheHypnotstCollector
@TheHypnotstCollector 8 ай бұрын
ahhh, the age of RV and tuna boat engines in cars..... Big heavy and modest performance. If you read a Car a Driver you'll see these cars are really a little slower than claimed here. But other channels make really absurd claims about the performance of these Tuna Cars. "Air Grabber" "500KR" "Cobra Jet"
@fredricclack7137
@fredricclack7137 10 ай бұрын
GS w/ Fav 🕷️ Mags! 😊
@ronaldbertin9455
@ronaldbertin9455 10 ай бұрын
Pontiac 400 ram air 4 was 370 hp
@bobsilver3983
@bobsilver3983 10 ай бұрын
1968 RAM AIR 2 in a Firebird, that was a monster motor
@19211265
@19211265 8 ай бұрын
@@bobsilver3983Right on!!!
@jarmominkkinen9409
@jarmominkkinen9409 10 ай бұрын
Corvette 454 LS7 Beat them al....
@richardmerriam7044
@richardmerriam7044 9 ай бұрын
No Hurst Olds W30 442?? One of the nastiest muscle cars EVER.
@justme307
@justme307 5 ай бұрын
Quickest Hurst Olds were the 68 and 69 model years. This video are for cars in the 1970's decade.
@richardmerriam7044
@richardmerriam7044 5 ай бұрын
The 1970 Hurst/Olds W30 was a scary quick 455 Rocket.@@justme307
@eddybig2781
@eddybig2781 10 ай бұрын
I'm gonna guess that the Olds 442 was forgotten about, maybe the Hurst Olds? Nothing? So that Pontiac from mid 70s with all the emissions was faster than pre-emissions 442 with the 455 with 500 ft pounds of torque??
@richardmerriam7044
@richardmerriam7044 9 ай бұрын
I agree. The Hurst Olds W30 442 was awfully quick.
@justme307
@justme307 5 ай бұрын
That 500 lb-ft would be about 400 SAE net.
@jean-charlesplante7027
@jean-charlesplante7027 10 ай бұрын
427 Cobra,12.2@118,end of argument.Ok it’s a sportscar…
@darrellsomers5427
@darrellsomers5427 Ай бұрын
The Baldwin motion phase 3 Camaro ran in the 11's
@jean-charlesplante7027
@jean-charlesplante7027 Ай бұрын
@@darrellsomers5427 agree,but it’s a ‘tuner’ car instead of a production one.Admittedly,Cobras were not commonplace but were a production car from an established maker.
@Honks34
@Honks34 7 ай бұрын
Idk how the 70 Nova didn’t make the list.
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 5 ай бұрын
Just old school fun.in.the sun
@user-oq3lh1js2e
@user-oq3lh1js2e 8 ай бұрын
i had a 1977 mercury grand marques 460 ci 375 hp 20 ft long my muscle car
@jeroldlafferty54
@jeroldlafferty54 9 ай бұрын
At our local drag strip and i was there all the time not one of the top 10 list could out run 427cu 4sp Nova,Camero or Corvettes.
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