Peaches dog attack

[@ivanskty1703]

honestly, owners should be happy their dogs didnt get kicked, because horse kicks are sometimes fatal

[@allisonpeare1794]

I think the horse shows great calmness and restraint. I hate to see this sort of thing, but I think it needs for a dog to be kicked do that owners become responsible

[@daleme8187]

I had a horse and a dog. One day horse said bye bye to dog...I should have known better

[@shadesofjade]

Even to humans.

[@maschawolkow8034]

my horse kicks and attacking always dogs,cause in the past one dog attack him...one day he kick a dog what was running in the meadow...that dog flys away .... and the owner call the police,but the police told him what he did wrong....and its his own fault that he loosses his dog and not my horse or mine fault.

[@bimmjim]

"Pet" dogs kill 50 people per year in the US. .. LOOK IT UP.

[@yvonnescholey6738]

If a dog cannot respond to the owner’s recall then it should remain on the lead, I really feel for the horse and rider they are so vulnerable. Well done to the rider for handling the horse so well😌

[@Veroweithofer]

Thank you! 🐴😍

[@MR-lq7ss]

They should always be on leash when in public. We have a dog, and I'm tired of dogs being allowed to walk off leash. I don't want a stranger's dog coming up to us without permission. I don't know if they are friendly or not. One dog off leash was aggressive and was prepared to attack us. There are people afraid of dogs that also walk in parks. Dog owners need to respect they are not entitled to let their dogs loose. Years ago, with my first horse, we would ride along a road. There was one house where the dog was allowed to run free. After several times of the dog coming after us like he was going to attack, I just told my horse to "go". And she did. She turned and chased the dog. Dog never came after us again.

[@thatpeskyrat]

@@MR-lq7ssi get you, but different cultural norms though. this sounds and looks like it’s happening in the UK, where we don’t have leash laws like the US. it’s completely normal to have dogs off leash anywhere in public so you can’t really apply that rule to a different culture

[@cassiopeiagames]

@@thatpeskyrat if your dog doesn't respond to heel or being called, do not let it off the leash. That's global, not cultural. Only let it loose in dog parks and enclosures.

[@MR-lq7ss]

@@thatpeskyrat I don't believe there should be any place in culture where people are allowed to let their dogs run loose in public - especially if they are not fully trained to come when called and leave something alone when they are told.

[@justincarter5167]

As a dog lover, it still does pi*s me off, whether in places like this, or local town parks, owners letting their dogs run havoc and then say "just being friendly". The amount of dog fights and screaming from the local fields where I live prompted the council in action to start fining dog owners for not having leads on dogs.

[@aubs2cool4uuuu]

there is no hate to you at all, but this is just a horrible owner. she just let the dogs run. at least these people are safe. these people should have been fined. this was very dangerous to the horse and rider.

[@spulwasser]

​@@aubs2cool4uuuuagree. If your dog doesn't obey, especially in emergency situations, you cannot put it off the leash. And particularly not, when somebody you don't know, with a horse, is approaching.

[@aubs2cool4uuuu]

@@spulwasser yes! these dogs are trying to annoy the horse and this is super dangerous. i hate people like them.

[@kuchi5130]

Imagine its just an open field, not much people, not much differents animals around, wild birds flying and some playful dogs running and you decide to unleash your dog to run around because it seemed fine and free to run around and never expect the unexpected. Then a random horse rider just comes by to ruin your day and call you a bad dog owner 💀

[@justincarter5167]

@@kuchi5130 In the countryside or near by you should expect horse riders. Many owners haven't taught dogs the vital stop commands, and then the dogs are blamed for the dumb animal that owns them.

[@AgentX999]

Unacceptable, they had no control over the dogs and didn't seem to be concerned even when asked to get them under control. I'm a dog owner and past rider, a spooked horse can be life threatening. My dogs a rescue and unfortunately terrified of horses so very reactive. I hide behind hedges when one is passing to stop his view, I wouldn't allow him to even bark at a horse for concern of the safety of the rider if he spooked the horse.

[@ratskullz_x]

Exactly not only the dog or horse couldve been hurt but the rider could have been seriously hurt if the horse spooked. People are crazy

[@maplewoodfarm7096]

As a rider, a horse can sense the hidden predators (in his mind) that are behind the hedge. I assure you that it is safer for horse and rider to be able to see you. But it is good to know that your dog is under control.

[@lisap2405]

Did you not hear the screams? They tried to catch these dogs. They just weren't able to get them. Surely they should have gotten them on a leash way before they got so close but still they tried to get them. They just didn't want to run or anything to encourage the dogs even more or to not scare the horse even further

[@bimmjim]

"Pet" dogs kill 50 people per year in the US. .. LOOK IT UP.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

I think they have minimal experience owning dogs, pick dogs they don’t train and can’t handle, and appear to have no idea how a back leg kick from the horse could immediately kill their dog. Sigh. I love horses and hate seeing this garbage. This poor horse was harassed by six different loose dogs on this ride.

[@Veroweithofer]

To all those keyboard dog experts, a dog out of control is not "just playful ". This situation was dangerous to dog, horse and rider. And yes, we have a dog. A well trained one ..

[@charlottewebster4233]

Absolutely. I'm a lifelong horse and dog owner / trainer. Common sense and courtesy dictates when you see a rider coming from as far away as this dog owner could, you put your dog on a lead whilst they pass. Whilst some might argue the dog was being playful rather than aggressive, a horse doesn't know the difference and one that spooks easily is a risk to themselves, their rider and the dogs.

[@eviesso4214]

I have a highly trained field trial golden retriever, who's recall is immaculate... However we have had previous experiences with horses which haven't been good. The dog thinks he is bigger than the horse and tries to hunt it because of a thing called prey drive. It is unusual for bigger animals, but sometimes it's just in the dog's nature. Have never let him off lead in moor/foresty areas where there could be riders since. Please take this into consideration as sometimes even the best of trained dogs can mess up. Dogs are dogs not robots, they aren't hardwired to do what ever you say, and saying that you have a 'trained' dog isn't going to make any difference. I bet you if you were in a field full of deer or possibly horses and you let your dog roam free, no matter how many times you call it, it most likely wouldn't come back because he needs to fulfil his needs to chase prey. Personally I don't think dog walkers and riders should share a path as it is a literally set up for disaster.

[@Veroweithofer]

@@eviesso4214 dog owners like you are NOT the problem! Key word: leash. You know your dog, you assess. There are many horse owners who own dogs and all just go out together. Not the problem either. When I walk my dog I always put her on a leash when we see horses. She knows horses. She is calm around them, careful and just gives them space. Still I leash because she is a beagle border collie golden retriever mix (yup 😏). I do think and hope we can all share trails and the beauty of nature. In London, where this video was taken, there is very little space for all of us, and it takes mutual respect to be able to enjoy it together.

[@avenger8399]

@@eviesso4214 Sadly in a crowded area where I live,we have to share the same paths.Some dogs have "prey drive" but many haven`t as they weren`t bred to hunt. All it takes is a bit of common sense. If you don`t trust your dog DON`T have it off lead. One lady I was talking to when out riding had her dog killed by one kick from a horse.

[@derekbuxton8728]

😂😂😂

[@averycheesypotato]

The owners should not let their dogs off leash if they have not trained for recall. If the dog just gets too excited due to prey drive, then the leash goes back on fast. The horse was getting very wound up at the end, all that snorting & blowing. But kept listening to the rider even so. Good horse! Glad no one was hurt

[@Veroweithofer]

She was indeed! Always looked after her riders.

[@genzi78514]

Exactly. I'm a dog owner, but I admit that I was never able to control my dog when he was younger and get excited and curious about something new. Anytime we are outside, he wears a leash, so I can get him out of bad situations. Your pet is your responsibility, they can't make wise choices. We humans should do it.

[@zackwalker664]

You can’t train for recall without going off leash. I agree this horse is a good listener and these dogs should be on a leash. But when you are approaching not one but two excited dogs, the thing to do is stop approaching them not continue moving; because the continued movement toward them will make their behavior worse and could turn on their prey drive. Also running away from the dogs will turn on the prey drive and if the owner doesn’t have them on a lead and can’t control them off lead it’s just making both people’s issue worse because the dogs are going to chase and the owner is not going to be able to keep up with a running horse and dogs. Not saying the dog owner isn’t in the wrong; but the horse rider did nothing to ease the situation and only made it worse. I have a gigantic 300+ lb dog who gets very excited around horses, so when we go to horse parks he stays on his lead the entire time. Also when I see horses approaching I will yell out that my dog is much stronger than I am and ask for a moment to find a tree to wrap his lead around and assist me in holding him. If this guy rode by on his horse telling me “control your dog” and didn’t stop to afford me that moment… not gonna lie, two of my dog can take down a grizzly bear and the breed is known as a wolf-killer; so approaching him when nothing is there to hold him and then possibly spooking him would not be the best idea. I try to be considerate. This rider was not considerate at all.

[@giftofthewild6665]

​​​@@zackwalker664 yes you can, it's called a long line. Look into it. You shouldn't own a dog you cannot physically restrain. Stupid of you to pick a breed you cannot control, that's how accidents happen.

[@Haley-w1i]

@@zackwalker664 you can train recall without taking your dog off leash, long lines exist

[@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk]

This is exactly why I insisted one of my buddies who got a Doberman a few years ago "horse trains" the dog. I picked too many rookie riders off trails and hauled them into my ambulance with what I knew would be permanently life changing injuries during my days as an EMT. Unfortunately, my buddy was an ignorant fool, as too many dog owners are, and he had to learn the hard way. The irony of me being the one to get on scene after his "obedient" dog almost ripped his arm out when a horse walked past them wasn't lost on either of us. He had to listen to my I told you so's the entire 15 minute trip to the hospital while I got to work on his dislocated shoulder, broken thumb and index and swollen wrist. That's how much power that dog had. The sight of one horse casually strolling by was enough for it to end like _this._ Silver lining? Rider and horse were both completely fine. To add insult to injury, the rider had actually been the one to get the dog under control and call EMS. Also, my buddy is an idiot, but he learns, thank goodness. He recovered, horse as well as cow trained his dog just to safe and went to an obedience school for a couple weeks to make sure recall and basic commands are a definite 100%. And no, this is not me praising my buddy. This is me being relieved he realized this was his fault and he had work to do. Horse train your dogs, people. No matter the breed, no matter the size. If you live in the countryside, horse train your damn dogs. Please.

[@charlottewebster4233]

You two are a great team. Really impressed by the calm and quiet from you both and just a gentle shush for reassurance. Good job x

[@Veroweithofer]

Thanks so much! X

[@MM-cn9zw]

I swear I hate those owners that have absolutely no control over their dogs but still let them roam free

[@g.w.hampton5525]

An out of control dog running at ANYTHING should never be considered just being playful.. playful can turn into an assault in an instant.. just the nature of an excited dog.

[@lisap2405]

Even if the dog is only playful, the horse can get so scared that it throws the rider off and then? Dead or maybe bound to a wheelchair for life just because of something that could've been prevented. I won't understand such people ever that let a dog roam free that doesn't listen to anything they say...

[@that_one_equestrian739]

Don’t you love how irresponsible owners put their dogs at risk? I sure do…

[@leeneufeld4140]

I have read through the comments, and mostly everything has been covered. But there is one thing I would like to point out, as there is debate over whether this was an attack or not. In my opinion, it was an attack. Why do I think this? The two dogs in question watched the horse approach from some distance away. At first they kind of milled around like they didn't know what to do, then they separated, with one going in front of the horse and one behind. This is when my alarm bells would have started going off. That is an attack formation, not playful dogs being curious. The owner's pathetic attempts to get control of them distracted them, but didn't deter them, they remained one in front and one behind. I am very glad this ended with no injuries to anyone, because it was on the knife-edge of turning violent.

[@Veroweithofer]

Thank you for this!! The title of the video was chosen by the rider, aka hubby, who was wearing a camera on his helmet. He and Peaches were a great team, and absolutely felt under attack! Peaches has since passed away, we often talk about her and how she took care of him. He was a fairly new rider , but did all the training including what to do in a situation like that. This was a public bridlepath and both dogs and horses are supposed to share the space.

[@rattings9121]

It definitely wasn’t an attack. The dog was being playful (wagging its tail, play bowing, tongue out etc) and while that still doesn’t make it any more acceptable as it isn’t, domestic pet dogs don’t have the instinct to “hunt” a horse like they’re bringing it down lmao.

[@leeneufeld4140]

@@rattings9121 Have you ever seen domestic dogs go on the attack?

[@Kitcat-squish75]

@@rattings9121domestic animals absolutely have the instinct to hunt, especially working breeds, dogs wag their tails in more than just one situation, wolves wag their tails too, this was not being playful. Almost any dog on some level has an instinct to hunt, wether that be very minor or very strong it depends on the dog, designer breeds tend to have less, like a pug or chihuahua, but a terrier? A collie? Any working breed? They absolutely do and if not trained right they don’t know what to do with it and freak out sometimes or get over stimulated.

[@c.s2193]

​@@rattings9121Look at this hobby behaviorial expert thinking a wagging tail and hanging toung always indicates playfulness. Get a grip. And while you're at it: Do some research on dog behavior. You need it

[@Gojiraon]

In my experience, Pitbull owners have been some of the most pompous, immature and irresponsible dog owners out there. They will literally scream at you “but she’s friendly tho!!“ And their dog is chasing children around. Especially when you own a pitbull, you can’t afford to be irresponsible. All dogs bite, but when pits bite, they don’t let go and do significantly more damage. As someone who lives with a pitbull, they are an intense dog breed. Licenses should honestly be required to own dogs like them.

[@Boudicaisback]

Seriously. I know someone that has a pitbull pup. You how hes trying to train her to stop with the puppy biting and nipping?! He is biting her back! Complete idiots with this breed always

[@Veroweithofer]

@@Boudicaisback omfg! 😫

[@mm-ln9sw]

one awful experience was all it took for me to not trust any pitbull i see ever anymore. my dog and i were minding our own business in our own yard while my dog was leashed, when a dipshit that had no business handling a pitbull let it get off its leash. i feel bad for the pit bulls who are better behaved but after seeing the brutal attack that one made on my dog completely unprovoked is enough to permanently damage their reputation in my eyes. so many irresponsible people have them and then further tarnish the breeds reputation by not knowing what the hell they are doing with it.

[@InkGraffiti]

Agreed. The pitbull defenders only ruined the breed further. Pitbulls ARE an aggressive breed, they were bred for blood sport, so the liklihood of them being aggressive to another animals is quite high. But pitbull enthusiasts do the "nanny dog" bullshit ( then why are they called pit bulls if they were used to RAISE CHILDREN..? ) so some fools think pit bulls are loving sweet teddy bears that you can do whatever you want with them. And some dogs, you can! And good for them! But that is not the majority. My two red alerts for owners are "She's very friendly!" or "It's just herding behavior!" because both of these show that the owner probably doesn't know their dog's language near as well as they should when off-leashing lol She's very friendly:: 9/10 used on a dog who is clearly stress-wagging, but owner assumes tail wagging of any sort is friendliness herding behavior:: these owners must think that dogs politely discuss with the sheep where they need to go, and will get very upset if you tell them to restrain their biting dog

[@KlutzyNinjaKitty]

⁠@@InkGraffiti - Exactly. Herding behavior is no different to when wolves stalk a herd. We’ve just learned how to use it for our own benefit, and have bred herding dogs to listen to us better. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s hunting behavior. And a prey animal, like a sheep, cow, or horse, isn’t gonna respond well to that. It’s a shame, because it’s not the pit’s fault they’ve been bred to gain satisfaction from fighting and bitting. They’re an outdated breed who were bred for an outdated, barbaric sport (bull baiting and then general dog fights) which has no place in our current society. In my opinion, it’s cruel to keep them around. Imagine forcing a Husky from running, or a retriever from retrieving, or even trying to keep a beagle or coonhound from baying. It’s foolish and wrong to take a dog designed for a job, and then keep the dog from doing what we’ve hard-wired their brains to do!

[@raccoondingodog6825]

great horsemanship here. it astounds me how irresponsible people are not only letting dogs loose bear horses but especially dogs with no recall.

[@rachelyoung834]

This is what makes me so angry. These people clearly don’t have any control over their dogs. I’m a dog owner and I know that my dog doesn’t always respond to his recall, so he NEVER comes off his lead when out. I would be absolutely mortified if this was my dog! I hope the horse was okay and well done to the rider! I don’t think I would have kept my cool if that was me and my horse xxx

[@apsimmy7236]

those owners had plentyyyyy of time to put those pit bull type dogs on the lead, talk about f thick ... play bow then snapping racing forward darting at the hocks and nipping the legs if this rider hadn't handled his horse and situation well ... this could've easily escalated to a very dangerous situation - great horse, great rider

[@walkawaycat431]

That's shitbull owners, sociopaths. Everyone else is ALWAYS at fault. Not their sweet nanny dogs (gag)

[@Dae4321]

Dogs with no recall should NEVER be off leash in an unsecured area. They’re lucky the horse has so much trust in its rider. I know horses that would have flattened that dog. Fight or flight instinct can be extremely hard to control.

[@Adeline9418]

That lady has zero control of her dogs. Thats scary.

[@ncredbird3998]

Well dogs aren't under owners control at all, they seem to not grasp that the dogs can cause harm just being what they are. You handled yourself and peaches so well

[@brandyag]

That’s why it’s important to always keep your dog on a leash.

[@LAStars-sratS]

No, this is why you Train your dog and if you don’t have success, then always use a leash. Don’t punish me because others can’t control their dogs.

[@scoox_4697]

@@LAStars-sratS what does that even mean???

[@LAStars-sratS]

@@scoox_4697 it means the dog owner is at fault and ppl minding their own business shouldn’t have to be put in danger because some ass doesn’t want to train his dog.

[@scoox_4697]

@@LAStars-sratS ok but u kinda talking like this commenter is defending them?

[@calador1918]

​@@scoox_4697it was a perfectly articulated sentence. If English is your first language you should have had no trouble understanding it🤦🏻

[@Gabi-bu7mc]

to the commenters, yes the dog is being playful, but horses dont speak dog's body language. to horses, any advancement can be seen as a threat and the horse can and will react dangerously for everyone involved. train your dog, and otherwise leash them.

[@sidlerm1]

It may have been playful for the 10 first seconds, then it wasn't

[@Gabi-bu7mc]

@@sidlerm1 that was because the horse reacted to the dog. The dog was playful, horse reacted, dog turned aggressive.

[@sidlerm1]

@@Gabi-bu7mc So, untrained dogs were agressive. We agree. The why is irrelevant. The dogs aren't trained enough and weren't playing. It's not because of the horse, it's because they aren't trained properly. The end.

[@nikkoshay5403]

Interesting how only the bully breed was showing this kind of behavior. Even with 4 other dogs they simply ignore the horse.

[@midnightsan9917]

Badly trained dogs will do badly trained things. The owners are to blame not the dogs who think they're just playing with the horse.

[@KlutzyNinjaKitty]

@@midnightsan9917 - it’s not playing. Dogs are still predators, don’t forget that.

[@crayontotallyen4616]

Yeah...sometime I wonder with mine. The only four ledged creature she doesn't to play with (and I mean really playing with all the language that come with it) is the cat.

[@mslindadoll]

You and the horse are very patient. Kudos to you both.

[@ratgoblin5011]

This is why I socialized my dog with horses when I got the chance at a resort. She’s got a high herding instinct (half lapponian, and the genes are STRONG), and I don’t want her getting kicked because she mistook a horse for an abnormally large sheep or reindeer

[@lisap2405]

I don't actually try that. My dog (really big Kangal, so no little yorkie or anything) is a bit scared of them and I'm glad he is. He won't approach them, he'd rather run away and that is fine for me. I don't want a horse to be stressed out by my dog being near them any maybe start barking or anything and I will not be able to socialize him with any animal he might meet in his life. So I'm fine with that and if we see some riders, we stay back a few meters and that's okay with everyone and my dog will watch from afar

[@ratgoblin5011]

@@lisap2405so long as your dog doesn’t attack, i’d say that’s a win. mines the type to dive right in and chase anything, so i had to train it outta her

[@emmasampley54]

I know that this situation is bad but I find it so interesting seeing dogs react to a species they have never seen before. My dog walks right behind the horse that I ride and thinks of it as walking behind me, not respecting the horse's space. She was trained to do this with us so she thought it was okay to do while we are on horse back. My sisters one-year-old dog saw a horse for the first time (the one I ride) and would not stop barking and trying to hide. I have also seen dogs get close and then far and do this on repeat. Animals are so fascinating

[@KARMAZYNA]

The dogs wanted to play, but the situation was still very dangerous. The horse didn't know what to expect of the dogs and could've panicked. And the dogs weren't very well-trained either, they completely disregarded their owner's commands.

[@Dinoman9877]

Exactly this. Those dogs weren’t being aggressive, but that doesn’t matter. The horse was upset with the situation and the rider knew that and was trying to avoid the worst happening. Calling this an attack is outright wrong, but the owners are still terrible for letting poorly trained dogs walk off leash. That’s a recipe for disaster.

[@undefinederror40404]

The owner literally could have seen this coming from miles away. As others said, it endangers everyone: one kick from the horse and your dog is dead. One jump from the horse from fear, and the rider can fall and break a number of bones. And if the dogs do bite the horse, an infected wound on the leg can easily kill the horse. And all that could be prevented so damn easily, by just using the leash.

[@sidlerm1]

​@@Dinoman9877If you identify this as playful past the 10 first seconds, you shouldn't own a dog

[@MaidenOfTheArts]

You and your horse handled it beautifully! I truly enjoyed how you kept going and she had to keep chasing them for so far because she doesn’t have well trained dogs 🤷‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@classactsexpertiseandinspi4815]

Im a responsible dog owner who used to work with horses when I lived in the country. My horse was traumatised by a black lab running at him snarling and leaping to bite him on the shoulder where wolves have always bitten creatures of prey such as horses. I was in the saddle, luckily he listened to me and didn't bolt on the country lane we were on. He stood and froze with fright. It gave me the chance to twirl my whip upside down so holding the thin end I buried the heavy handle of the whip between the dogs eyes - its the only thing that made him back off. It was vital to my horses continuing confidence on that lane, that he knew I would always look after him and protect him. Dog owners who don't keep their dogs on a leash in public places are selfish and will get their dogs killed while damaging the rest of us.

[@nanaj5836]

Whether the dog was being playful or not, the horse does not know that and will react. Those dog owners need to train their animals better before letting them off the lead. That horse could have bolted and seriously hurt both itself and the rider. The horse was better behaved than the dog!

[@Veroweithofer]

Exactly. People get their knickers in a twist about the word “attack”. This is experienced and filmed from a horse’s and rider’s perspective!

[@shlingusdingus4174]

I'm good with dog body language, and for the most part, the dogs were playbowing, tail-wagging, panting, general behavior for play (with exceptions of course, not every dog is the same). However, the recall of those dogs is terrible. If you can't call back your dog on the spot and are 100% certain that your dog is obedient enough to do so before even stepping outside, don't have it off-leash. Period. I can't imagine how much worse this could have gone.

[@paulworgan6599]

It could have gone far worse.

[@BlueyKind]

@@paulworgan6599 like the police horse who got attacked by a pitbull in a London park, can't remember if it was this year or last year. Very stupid dog person in that instance!

[@paulworgan6599]

@@BlueyKind I know saw that video fucking heart breaking I would totally humiliated if that was my dog

[@BlueyKind]

@@paulworgan6599He didn't even try to get his dog! Just stood around watching while others dealt with it! It seems a lot of these idiots with big tough dogs are actually scared of the dogs themselves. 😖

[@sidlerm1]

There were two dogs, tail wagging isn't only a playful display and past the 10 first seconds it cannot be confused with playful behaviour

[@kxda.hxrlow]

As a dog handler and trainer what these people did was completely unacceptable. At the start you can see a man yanking his dog which automatically gives off the lack of training and care. Those dogs were fine and the one that was yanked was on leash good job to them, the second people however had no intention of correcting or recalling their dogs. Their dogs have obviously never been around horses and those people having them off leash is such a cruel thing, those dogs have no clue what the owners want and it’s only confusing them. These people need a leash and a trainer. You handled that amazing what a saint of a horse too.

[@lisap2405]

It also looked to me like the dogs didn't even care what the owners wanted from them. They were just like "nah, I don't care I wanna do that right now, I'm the boss anyways"

[@kxda.hxrlow]

@@lisap2405 That's not really how dogs work or think, they think like "No, I don't want to come back to you, this horse is more interesting. You're just going to put me on leash" I do get what you mean though. They don't think they're the boss they really just don't care to come back because of past interactions and lack of training.

[@lisap2405]

@@kxda.hxrlow Every dog has to work out who is the alpha. Be it with their humans or be it with fellow dogs. That's just how they work. And if you don't make sure you're their boss, they are yours. My words may not be ideal because I'm not english native but I hope you get what I'm saying. How else do you explain why dogs only listen to specific people in their home? for example my dog and moms dogs listen more to me than to my mother although she spends more time with them. That's not because they love me more, that's because they know I'm the boss and they have to listen to what I say in case they wanna have peace. I don't hit any animal, I maybe growl at them because it's their language but still they'd have almost no consequence and still listen more to me

[@kxda.hxrlow]

@@lisap2405 No, the alpha theory has been canceled for years now. I'm not the "boss" of my dogs yet they still listen and are obedient. There is no alpha theory with domesticated animals. Your statement is incorrect. Your dogs would listen to other people in the house (or you for instance) more because that's who trained them. Whoever trains your dog has a closer relationship with them. Just like humans dogs are more likely to listen to people they are familiar with. There are most likely to only listen to those whom they have a close relationship with. Just like if you went up to a random dog and said "sit" it would be hesitant to perform the task because it simply does not know you. Anyway, there is no alpha theory because the alpha theory barely even exists with wolves - their furthest descendant.

[@lisap2405]

@@kxda.hxrlow My dog is familiar with my mom and she also trained him with me. Still he doesn't listen to her as much as he listens to me. And you're only partly correct. The theory that's been cancelled is the one that one dog is the alpha to every other dog in the house. It can be, but they need to fight it out individually instead of just fighting out with the biggest Dog in the house

[@LayllasLocker]

I'm not sure why some dog people don't understand that a horse can shift delete any dog in a second. Greetings from a cat lady. Imagine having a dog and not being able to control it. 🤦‍♂

[@Managable_Mayhem]

That's what confuses me too! I'd be panicked if my late GSD-Malinois nutjob suddenly ran up to a horse. Worried for her, worried for the horse and rider. Why do people act like this situation isn't a problem for them when it's their dog who's in the most dangerous position?? I don't think I'll ever understand. Unless of course these people's knowledge amasses to: Horses stand on a field and eat grass. HURRDURR. - Then I suppose you'd not even know they can kill with one swift kick or pawing.

[@ernestclements7398]

An old friend of mine, a veterinarian at the Loomis Valley Equine Clinic in California, ( and a professor of vet Medicine at the university of North Carolina in Denver N.C) was once called upon to repair the damage to a horse's head and neck, after it was attacked, by a Pit Bull in a local County Park the horses rider was also badly injured, in the incident, which ended when the dogs owner grabbed it, threw it into his jeep, and fled the area, I don't know, if he was ever caught, or just what happened to the dog, but the pictures that were posted online of the horse, were horrifying, people who own dogs that aren't familiar with horses should keep them on leash at all times when in an area where they might encounter horses.

[@shishkebab5306]

If you can’t call your dog back don’t let the poxy thing off the lead. Damn there are stupid owners out there.

[@chuckalucktoo5492]

That horse could have gotten spooked and things could have taken a turn for the worst. That dog was not playing. And it wasn't cute nor funny. I would have gotten off that horse and beat the hell out of that dog and the owner. Tired of people giving these untrained, unleashed dogs a pass.

[@funkydozer]

This woman is a true dog whisperer, she has successfully taught her dogs to understand and ignore the word ‘HEY’.

[@Animalsarefamily-p2n]

Common sense: when you see a rider and a horse, put your dog(s) on a leash to keep EVERYONE safe!

[@lichatheworkingdog]

Look how he horse is going away from the dogs ears pinned, poor horse

[@MJSolit]

Its insane that he had to say something for the owner to even try to get control over her dogs. Props to him tho for an extremely well trained and chill horse

[@freshfeel]

The dog might be "just playful" but to a horse "just playing" might result in death. Just like we don't let 13 year olds "play" in the NFL.

[@lilskipper4683]

It infuriates me when people don't put their dogs on lead when they see another one on lead but this is worse! I'm a full time dog walker and no matter how friendly the dog is I always put it on a lead around different animal, especially horses because you don't know how the dog will react nor do you know how the horse will react. Just think how you feel when your tiny dog runs around your legs, you hate it, so why would any other creature enjoy that sh*t??

[@Dragondude312]

The dog was definitely testing the water and figuring out if it could take the horse or not

[@Costco_Hotdawg]

those dog owners are lucky that horse didn’t kick, they can be absolutely fatal for a dog and sometimes, with enough power another horse.

[@lonewolfinthetardis2640]

Oh shit, hey Ghestie!

[@Costco_Hotdawg]

@@lonewolfinthetardis2640 HIIII

[@jase123111]

Its the bad dog owners. See the dogs at the beginning of the video. They have been trained and are cared for well. Some are on leashes to control them, and the other dogs are not interested in the horses. The owner of the dogs causing the problem is a bad owner. She put her dogs, the horses and riders are risk. She could see the horses coming in the distance, and see her dogs getting excited, but she did not put them back on the leash. She has not trained them to recall or listen to her commands. I am a dog owner...as that second lady gives dog owners a bad name. Believe me, us good dog owners also hate these irresponsible people. Often we are victims when their out of control dogs or untrained dogs attack our own dogs or cause problems. The also are the dog owners that will never apologies or accept that they are the ones at fault, always blaming other people or other peoples dogs or horses.

[@Veroweithofer]

Absolutely. One bad owner ruining it for everyone.

[@unrulycrow6299]

As a horserider with a reactive shepherd dog from a shelter, I made sure to train him to come back quickly, as well as expose him to other animals in safe and calm environments so he wouldn't be overly excited when seeing them. As a result, he's very calm around horses in particular (will sit and look at them pass by). It's a bit harder with other farm animals because he really wants to herd them, but we've always made sure these animals remained safe by keeping our dog away from the fences and watching out for potential holes so he didn't squeeze in the enclosures. As a result, the local cows in particular quickly learned that our dog could be superbly ignored, since their enclosure always remained safe for them.

[@katyar20]

It is ILLEGAL in the UK to not have your dog under control (look it up). If a police person were to come up to you and tell you that you must get your dog on a lead because it is out of control then you should be able to do it right there and then. You can be fined and prosecuted if you cannot control your dog!!!!

[@george-ev1dq]

The police will do nothing other than report the incident to the local council, it is about time dog owners in GB were made to have their animals licenced , it is all about accountability and the owner more than the dog itself, I have no problem paying my annual dog licence fee which is only £12.50 per dog per year which includes the mandatory dog tag.

[@braeburnhilliard8340]

It's the same with me, I own dogs and horses as well. I hate to see when other dog owners did not keep their dogs in check. I now carry a firearm most times when I take my horses out because one of my animals was seriously injured a while back by someone else's dog attack.

[@InkGraffiti]

Dog owner is ALSO not helping by standing in the horse's face and shouting for the dogs.. very good horse handling here, you and Peaches did wonderfully! But yeah, pit bulls ESPECIALLY should not be trusted around horses. As you might tell from the breed name, they are bred to fight bulls ( fighting other dogs came later ). They would fight bulls by biting onto its face and hanging on for dear life, slowly bleeding the bull out over time. You can find old paintings of this. In a dog's mind, a horse isn't that much different, and this is why all those "dog attacks horse" videos you might see, its often a pit bull, and it's usually going for the horse's face. If youre a pit bull owner you should REALLY put the leash back on if you see a horse rider approaching in the distance and preferably also move well out of the path of the horse to keep the chance of dispute at a minimum because it's important to remember, it will take many bites for your dog to win against a horse, but it will take one kick for your horse to premanently disable or kill your dog, and no matter what, you would be at fault Even if it's "just play", a dog's play is very different from a horse's play and can easily turn to aggression And if you thing dog veterinary bills are expensive, hooboy you got another think comin when you have to pay for the horse's veterinary bills ( and there's a chance your dog gets killed anyway for being an aggressive-to-society dog, which can happen in certain states / countries )

[@Veroweithofer]

Thank you! Our Peaches lost her battle against arthritis a few years ago, but this one she won. She was the best horse!

[@crayonzii]

The dog is definitely not under control, such a shame because it’s a pit or a mix with pit, they must be trained really well, they were bred to kill.

[@midnightsan9917]

Eh they're really not. Their bite force is relatively weak for a dog bred and they rank better on a aggression test than golden retrievers. They were bred to look big and mean and to follow their masters order. These ones particularly were just not well trained.

[@EXBANDU]

@@midnightsan9917 pit bulls were quite literally bred for bloodsports. to say that they're not and that their bite force and aggression are low is delusional

[@tokumeiokano4154]

I hate dogs like this. Some people have no business owning them.

[@abigray8585]

Oh he or she was snorting, that’s never a good sign. Least the horse was taken care of and helped, sure he or she got plenty of kisses and treats for being such a good boy or girl.

[@Veroweithofer]

She did get kisses and treats indeed. She was the most reliable mare you could find.

[@genlovell4662]

The horse is very scared. It made the grunting noise at the end of video. That’s usually a sign of extreme fear if I heard correctly

[@whitneyforbess]

As someone who loves my dog, even though I trust him and his recall I STILL keep him on leash most of the time, unless I feel we are both completely safe

[@petervankauwenbergh3375]

Horses are so beautiful. They so regal.

[@Lawandwill]

I'm very thankful that if my mom or me call my dog she comes back immediately ❤

[@charleslloyd4253]

This is why I always carry skunk spray when I go on public trails. Because people do not bring leashes for their dogs.

[@gh0stlyg0ner]

as someone who doesnt own either a horse OR a dog but has been training street dogs *without* leashes,even they have better recall than this,i understand that they have prey drive but an owner should know to train them and keep them in control,this may have been bad for both you and your horse,and the dog too.

[@charlottemansfield6916]

Reminds me when a dog was barking at me and my sister with a crazed look in its eyes. It then began circling us as we huddled together terrified and thinking one look and it would bite us. The owner was doing nothing as we were literally being stalked and circled, my sister was in tears and on edge of a panic attack and I screamed at this woman to get her dog and take it away. I was baffled and furious that she hardly seemed concerned

[@Blue_Blood_Royalty]

The dog might not have been showing aggressive behavior but that was still an extremely dangerous situation for the dogs, their owner, the horse, and the rider. The recall and control was horrible, if you can't trust your dogs recall then don't let them be off leash. I'm very glad that the horse and rider were able to stay as calm as they could in this situation, because otherwise it could've gone very wrong for everyone involved.

[@lobear3074]

I love getting recommended 8year old videos, thanks KZbin 😊

[@TheChickensandDutchesstheEssa]

I own a dog and he would never do this because we trained him so much for one year straight😢😢

[@h3llnite]

What a well behaved horse ♥️

[@turtal2595]

1. letting their dogs be off-leash with no proper recall 2. not leashing their dogs as soon as they see a horse approaching 3. YELLING while near the horse, risking the horse spooking 4. doing jack shi* overall to retrieve their dogs while yelling that theyre gonna get kicked 5. proceeds to take their time and not leash their dog whatsoever ...yeah this owner is a trainwreck and a half.

[@Veroweithofer]

😂 in a nutshell, yeah!

[@im_not_okay-11]

Sorry but like at 0:26 I felt bad for the dog to get pulled so hard like that

[@FamousLyri]

When my dog is barking thats what I do to stop him... But not that hatd

[@mermaidripples9302]

WoW Great Horse, Great Horsemanship Impressive!

[@Lesley_Eastwood]

As a horse rider who yet isn't onto this level and won't be for a long time, this seems like a nightmare.

[@linajurgensen4698]

What baffles me in these situations the owners literally do nothing to stop the dog NOTHING. There is no training or anything. I see that in a lot of videos from the UK or the US. In my country the owners would shout at the dog and throw a leash at it or whatever is in hand. This is irresponsible, it’s not only dangerous for the horse and the rider but also for the dog.

[@thistles]

Those dogs were predatory, not playful.

[@nadinep.5217]

Rund 90% der Hundehalter sollten ihre Hunde lieber wieder abgeben, denn sie haben keinerlei Ahnung von der Marterie Hund. Mich hat das jedesmal aufgeregt, wenn ich mit meiner Stute spatzieren war und mir sämtliche Gassigeher mit ihren ja so super ungehorsamen und respektlosen Hunden entgegen kamen. Auch heute noch, ohne Pferd und stattdessen als Fußgänger bei mir zu hause unterwegs, könnt ich jedesmal ausrasten, wenn mir unangeleinte Hunde bellend entgegen rennen, oder mich anspringen. Da wundert es mich bei solch einem famosen Nichterziehen nicht, dass immer mehr Menschen angst vor Hunden bekommen. ich stelle mir jedesmal die immer selbe Frage: Warum zum Geier leine ich meinen Hund ab, wenn ich weiß, er ist zu verspielt, nicht abrufbereit, ignorant oder sonstiges? Ich kapiere sowas einfach nicht und es macht mich einfach nur wütend!

[@lucidality]

I’ll never understand why people let their dogs off leash when they have absolutely no recall whatsoever. Especially in such a busy place. Trying to go after a horse and then almost starting a fight with another dog? Where did these people ever get the impression this would be a good idea?

[@cinthia1234567890]

me pretending to be shocked once I realized what breed that dog was: 😦

[@katezn1427]

This has nothing to do with breed but with the education that the owner gives 🙄😮‍💨

[@ria2453]

stop blaming the breed.

[@leeneufeld4140]

@@ria2453 It's not the breed, and poster didn't say it was. But certain breeds attract certain kinds of owners, and this breed is one of those.

[@ria2453]

@@leeneufeld4140 The commenter literally said it was about the breed.

[@54321Lola]

It has everything to do with the breed. Stop making excuses for these dogs. You don't hear people being mauled by poodles do you? Saint Bernard's attacking kids playing in their yards? Or cops had to kill an out of control Doodle that was on a rampage in an area neighborhood 🙄. No, it's always the same type dog, and they are ALWAYS out of control regardless the human. No owner takes responsibility for it, it's always friendly, and it never showed aggression before. It's the same story. Even when it attacks a family member or mauls a child in their own home. STOP ✋️.

[@evexest]

The horse clearly warned the dog multiple times, but you could still see the horse still listening to what it’s owner was asking for

[@fran01544]

They looked to be experiencing playful behavior,but that doesn’t give excuses to not keep them on lead. Those dogs are large dogs,and if wanted can cause damage,BAD damage. My horse had to be put down because of a pit bull attack,3 pit bulls,ALL OFF LEASH,ran up,attacked my horse. Chewed her legs,her tail,her face even her neck. I couldn’t bear see her suffer so I made the tough call. I don’t know if it was a good choice but the scars she had were traumatisingly deep. Deep and bleeding like crazy,and her legs made it hard to stand and walk. KEEP YOUR DOGS ON LEADS.

[@romeliaanddixie]

Where was the dog attack?

[@Swan.-.-.]

That woman shoudlnt have her dogs off leash. She should train them to listen to her commands too. You handled that perfectly and honestly if I had I probably would’ve messed everything up and panicked out.

[@greenlightning2539]

I have a siberian husky. I keep her on a leash for many reasons, and I'm adding this to that list.

[@beatricewolfe8670]

i dont know how my furbaby would act around a horse but I at least have the knowledge that he'd never attack anyone, he's so gentle and sweet with everyone, but I never take chances, cause it only takes one time for things to change for the worse

[@gizzmowalliss]

I don’t think owners realise it only takes one good kick and it’s by, by dog.

[@kez7170]

That woman 🤬

[@brianm4178]

That horse was so well behaved during that... trusts the owner to know they arent going to wait for it to get out of control, or do anything to excite the situation further. That was good training and ownership on display as well. ❤ These dog owners should take notes 😂

[@carenxatu5962]

“Out-of-control” doesn’t necessarily mean “aggressive”- it means they are unable to be controlled. There is no discipline or obedience. No respect. Just because a dog is “playful” that doesn’t mean they aren’t still “out-of-control”. That was a gorgeous and adorable dog and I certainly can’t think badly of them, but the humans really gotta learn what it means to be a dog owner and be responsible. It infuriates me when I see that level of ignorance/entitlement, and it’s usually the dogs who suffer the consequences of their owners lack of understanding and common sense.

[@suminshizzles6951]

We can see who is in charge in that relationship and it is not the lady who owns the dog. I think, sadly, that it might take an expensive vet bill or worse for this lady to come to her senses.

[@RueRueDaFish]

In a open field my family lets my dog walk around off leash and she knows she will automatically get leashed if she doesn't listen. She is very well tra8ned unlike these dogs

[@justvibe7941]

It dosen't matter if the dog is "just playful" the horse is not. If you as an owner cannot keep your dog on a leash or train it to not run up to animals, you shouldn't own a dog. They should be lucky that horse didn't kill it.

[@naturewatcher7596]

Cool horse - just keeps going without getting crazy and running for her life.

[@Beauxpattison]

It’s clear from the posture that the dog is curious and trying to play, but the owner is completely irresponsible for letting them off the lead especially if they are aware horses may come through. At that point the dog is in danger of being injured or even killed via a kick from the horse.

[@Englandzone1]

What pissed me of more is not the poor recall but the lack of urgency to get them back

[@MilesBellas]

Jogging and cycling and canal paths is now impossible nearby. Lots of imitating people have dogs and blame others for existing.

[@sbl9467]

Everybody thinks their dogs are just angels. Everyone else better put a leash on their dogs...but not me because my dogs are the absolute best. Rules do not apply to me or my dogs. -this way of thinking is why so many accidents with pets occur. The dog doesn't have to physically harm a person or animal. It could simply spook them (especially kids) and cause them to panic and run into the busy street. I'm terrified of snakes. If I see one I'm taking off. The dam snake isn't even trying to attack me but I'm just terrified of it. Same thing applies here; a friendly dog maybe just wants to greet people walking by but there are people who are terrified of dogs. Shouldn't be too hard to understand

[@halfdaebak]

I firmly believe that unless your dog can actually come when it’s called then they shouldn’t be off the leash. I was attacked by a dog when I was very young because it was an aggressive dog that shouldn’t have been off its leash, grew up absolutely petrified of dogs. Pretty sure most countries have laws against having your dog off the leash in public.

[@sarahcreech5923]

As a dog lover and owner. I'm fully aware that there are some (most) public places I can't let my dog off leash, despite Jim having far better recall than her dogs did, you just never know. What a maroon to put her dogs in that situation and then everyone else in that situation as well.. You got her some much needed exercise though 😂

[@poiwytlee]

You: can you please get your dog? Them: yeah! Proceeds to just screech at the dog

[@maplewoodfarm7096]

NICE TRAILS! I trail ride a lot, in many different locations. In my experience, this is not the norm, nor was it overly explosive. Dogs are more often on lead but are not sure what to do with these large horses 🐎. You rode through it well. Hats off to you!

[@Veroweithofer]

This is on the Hackney marshes in East London. An official bridlepath! In England it is allowed to leave dogs off leash. However , we reported this one to park rangers.

[@vonkunstfreiheitgedeckt]

1. the dogs were not playful they were checking out boundaries and trying to cut off the horses path. 2. any dog owner who has to be asked to call off their 2 excited dogs from a horse should not have dogs in the first place.

[@Horsegurl526]

I felt so sorry for the first dog the owner pulled it in such an abusive way ❤😢

[@katezn1427]

It must be because the dog was in front of the horse and to avoid being run over, he pulled 😢

[@suzispatz7976]

And who on earth would think that these are dogs that are just being friendly. That’s not the behavior of friendly dog. These are dogs that don’t have anyone to control them.

[@anablahh]

As a owner of a large dog (Cane Corso) who listens but is on the leash at all times in public places all i have to say is keep your dog tied! Specially cause there are more situations like this one where owners have 0 authority over the dog, she is chasing him like a headless chicken and calling his name and the dog doesn't care. I would run and get my dog that instant! If you cannot dominate your dog, don't get one, specially not a larger breed like this. Good job for staying calm i would get of the horse and beat the crap out of the dog and the headless chicken 😅

[@forestranger312]

These dogs were totally out of control, they were baiting the horse and to his credit the horse and rider coped exceptionally well. As a dog lover myself it disgusts me the growing number of people who own dogs and never train them or control them, it’s these people who should never be allowed to own them.

[@bilwisss]

dog and dog owner, just a liability.

[@PippiLangstrumpf5287]

If your dog doesn't have a 100% recall, don't let them off leash. Period.