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Just when you thought it couldn’t get any sillier, here comes this clown. This joker. Today we’re talking about Terrifier 2 and whether or not it has cemented itself as a staple of low art horror as the correct response to Elevated Horror. Who knows? Who cares? Art the clown’s back everybody.
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[@RivenLove]

I had no idea what "the scene" was going to be but I breathed a sigh of relief when I found out it didn't include SA

[@markalexander3659]

There's no SA in either Terrifier film :)

[@wormathy]

@@markalexander3659 forgive me for being crass but i mean i'd say hacksawing a woman from the vagina in terrifier 1, even if not overtly sexual in presentation, has a certain je ne sais quoi that i dont think people against SA would be super into

[@TheGrayEsteban]

Woah there! Give Art the Clown some respect. We're talking about a deranged sadistic force of evil over here, not some sick pervert 🤨

[@andrxwh]

@@markalexander3659I would still mention that some have argued a lot of its most intense violence is misogynistic as it often involves female nudity. But that's nothing new for splatter horror, regardless of how you would consider it.

[@blandface9957]

​@@andrxwh I actually agree with the misogyny take low-key. When I originally watched both films I didn't really have any qualms until I found out that the actor who played Art the Clown pitched an idea to the director in the second film that he cut the dude's (the one who got killed by the truck around the end of the movie) private area off and then blow it up and turn it into a balloon animal. The director turned it down because that was "too painful" like they didn't have all these extremely gruesome deaths for female characters in both films.

[@ChrisMeadows1992]

Terrifier 2 is shocking and sadistic, but it's executed at such a playful, cartoonish level that I think it's just asking the audience to let go and have fun. Art the Clown is, to me, the Bugs Bunny of the slasher villains and I'm certain Damien Leone is very aware of that.

[@cnvrgnt]

Art the Clown is the Bugs Bunny of horror villains

[@timk6181]

This. T2 isn't bleak, it's sort of joyful, it's like a kid who wants to show you all the gross things they've made. Which is why it's an instant classic, one of the few recent horror movies that will stick around for a long time.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

Honestly, Art the Clown is kinda like what happened to Freddy Krueger in later films, except dialled up to a Looney Tunes level of wacky. Or, as another commenter said, "Happy Tree Friends". Granted, I've never seen Happy Tree Friends, since it wasn't quite my thing, but I have seen some of the creator's other videos. And by some, I meant most of their Doctor Tran videos, including the "30-second spot" for Roybertito's.

[@McSquiddington]

This. If you're looking to approach Terrifier and its sequels as anything close to highbrow horror à la A24, you'll probably be disappointed. It's empty. It's vapid. It has nothing to say. It isn't Midsommar or X or even John Carpenter's Vampires. Art the Clown is the grossly gleeful kid who shows up with handfuls of wriggling earthworms and thinks that's cool. Just, you know - with baroque executions that make you think "Damn, Art sure has a lot of time on his hands to plan all of this, doesn't he?" And yes, this stil qualifies as art.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

@@McSquiddington Indeed. With how creative Art is with some of his kills, particularly in THAT SCENE, his grisly handiwork is, in its own twisted way, art.

[@possqueenvivvie]

i'm convinced the terrifier series is more of a showcase of practical gore effects than it is a film franchise

[@AlextheAlchemist]

Damien Leone was primarily an SFX artist before directing Terrifier so that pretty much sums up the franchise (and is the reason why I love it)

[@tylerattwood9392]

And I'm down for that

[@jasperwisecarver]

that's actually so real because that's literally my favorite part

[@TheWrestlingful]

Its one of the millions of reasons I love it and kinda am more hyped for Terrifier 3 than MaXXXine in ways. Both are the 3rd movie. Both are movies I love prior to going in. I love both its predecessors prior. Why am I more excited for a Terrfier 3 than a MaXXXine (despite still being excited for it)? Movies like MaXXXine (elevated high brow artsy fartsy) is always gonna come around. Ooooooh girl has hard time in society in a slasher movie with social commentary! Wow. Thats every ELEVATED movie. Terrifier? I am all in with its stupidity and the practical effects!! A demon clown and girl demon clown that has zero relations or sense other than because?! Thats so cool! Oh a scary clown is gonna be dressed up as Samta Claus and brutally kill someone?! Count me in! Oh girl is gonna be a sword and sandals peotagonist who fights killer clown?! Fuck yeah thats dope, I'm in!! Sure, MaXXXine will probably be a very good movie and tie everytging together with a neat little bow and sprinkles of a social commentary about something that all the Nyx Fear's or Thomas Flights or every film essayist who only ever do videos on A24 (and Marvel movies) channels will endlessly love and pronounce how deep and philosophical like Plato. Terrifier? I have zero clue where this storyline is headed but I am all in! Why is Chris Jericho a nurse?! How does the previous final girl giving birth have any relevance?! Idk and I don't care!!!

[@okyep]

​@@AlextheAlchemistwhy do the effects look like complete dog shit. Stretch Armstrong gets dismembered

[@lrjcsmmt]

I liked Terrifier 2 a lot more when I realized it’s not a horror film-it’s demented vaudeville.

[@hadenplouffe3976]

Seeing characters so cut up that they resemble all those viral "actually cake" (most notably That Scene) was the point where it crossed over to just, cartoonish and funny for me. I've got so many complex feelings on the movie, which is funny because the film truly doesn't have any interest in being experienced nearly as complexly as I (or May) think about it, lol

[@TheQuietTyper]

I think the first one is like that as well. Everything he does is in service of a joke only he finds funny.

[@hunterv9259]

i was just calling it gory slapstick lol, but "demented vaudeville" is a near perfect description

[@JMBAD_art]

@@TheQuietTyper- This is a great way to put it, lol

[@DementedLycan]

That’s the best way to put it. I never knew how to put it. I knew it definitely wasn’t horror.

[@Takumi_Did_Nothing_Wrong]

These movies are the very definition of Cross the Line Twice. They're so cartoonishly extreme in their depictions of violence and gore that they come off as more darkly hilarious than scary. It helps that David Howard Thornton really sells his role as Art the Clown. He's a genuinely fantastic actor and the main reason I look forward to these movies.

[@TheGrayEsteban]

The dude is genuinely funny without speaking a single word. I'm talking Buster Keaton levels of physical comedy (actually, even then, both are a different breed of silent humor).

[@ebbtide4233]

I thought that the mother coming in made it a bit too real but the acting itself is so stupidly over the top that it wasnt really that disturbing its not like she was really acting like a real person would in her situation

[@shanewinter14]

Aren’t you missing that the actor playing Art is the reason for the movies success? He’s tremendous, brings way too much personality than the character is worth even. Leprechaun had like 5 sequels because of Warwick Davis. It didn’t deserve a single one.

[@OctopusOwl]

Sometimes you just have an amazing character actor/mask actor/creature actor that carries a movie. Art has IT.

[@gracex3217]

he’s incredible and seems like such a likable guy!! the videos of him at conventions honking his horn at people are gold.

[@ianbyrne465]

​@@OctopusOwl Hellraiser moment

[@CloudMountainJuror]

Absolutely this. I like these movies because David Howard Thornton as Art is genuinely hilarious. Maybe my favorite performance in horror ever.

[@aandromaliuss]

Terrifier 2 reminded me a lot of Happy Tree Friends while i was watching it for the first and only time

[@TheQuietTyper]

Now that I think of it, that must be why I didn't feel as extreme a reaction as she described the audence having. The last time I felt sick at extreme gore was Happy Tree Friends.

[@PHUZface1]

ahhh those were the days

[@TheNerindil]

I’m like 5 minutes in so I don’t know if you say this May, but I liked the Terrifier movies for basically one reason: It’s the only time an evil clown has actually been good at being a clown. Art is a ton of fun. The rest of the movie is filler, but when art is on screen being a Silly Boy, it’s legitimately entertaining.

[@GoatyCultist]

This whole movie was basically "what if a mean spirited cartoon villain went on a rampage and thought he was hilarious" and I was utterly charmed.

[@Nipponcakes]

Lmao this is awesome. Back in 2020, my best friend and I got in a car accident with Scott (that's him at 6:06) the prop master of this movie through sheer chance. He mentioned to us that the accident was unfortunate because he had to get to a movie set the next day and that it was called Terrifier 2. My best friend was shocked because he saw the first one on Netflix and we half jokingly asked if we could come to the set. Well we did and we got to be PAs and even extras in the film. Our names are in the credits and everything. At the time, we fully expected it to just go straight to streaming, so it was surreal when I eventually got to see myself/ my name on the big screen. Coincidentally, my best friend and I have the shared experience of being traumatized by the original adaptation of IT when we were about 5 y/o. Also we only got into that accident that day because we went to go check out a lighthouse after seeing/loving the movie Lighthouse. So our love of horror movies kinda got us into one. Funny how the world works.

[@ActionYakPolice]

my brother (her uncle not her dad) let our 12 year old niece watch the first one. we learned this when she picked the sequel as the movie she wanted to watch. he's dead now so I can't ask him why the fuck he did that.

[@JMBAD_art]

This comment was a rollercoaster. I did laugh aloud, but I am very sorry for your loss.

[@JMBAD_art]

This comment was a rollercoaster. I did laugh aloud, but I am very sorry for your loss.

[@chrisvisser-fee2631]

Long have I joked about how much I would enjoy a Mr Bean horror film. The look of manic glee in his eyes as he slit your throat would make for an interesting tone. Watching Art the Clowns face and little jumps for joy he does as he dumps salt and bleach onto a flayed woman pitifully trying to crawl away, I've realised this IS that film...

[@MsPurji313]

YES! Thank you! I had a nagging feeling that I was reminded of something/someone with Art and have kind of waffled about it since I saw the first one on and off whenever someone mentioned it. You, kind commenter, have made that connection for me! Thank you! Art is a behind the looking glass Mr. Bean.

[@somasatori9117]

"Wow, what do you call it?" "The Aristocrats!" - Damien Leone

[@ShelbyTaylorExists]

How did I watch 30 minutes of this video only to realize that YOU wrote Fluids. That's in my Kindle library as we speak, and I've been saving it for later because I've heard exclusively great things about it.

[@marreco6347]

I think this movie was massively popular because there's always room for that one gross out experience. It was the human centipede, before it was Saw, and before the grindhouse. While an A24 film is a movie that you want to watch a home, then go discussing online, this is the movie you call your friends to laugh at each other's reaction. There's good pepper then there's "the nuclear hole destructor from hell", there's Mozart and then there's Whiz Khalifa, there's good whisky and there's that gas station special. It's not about quality alone, it's about what the occasion calls for too.

[@TheWrestlingful]

This is exactly why I love Terrifier! I love high brow stuff but sometimes its nice to have a movie like Terrifier put us all in check!

[@NovaNocturnus]

Warning us about the runtime of this video is a joke to me given the number of video essays I’ve watched that pass the one hour mark 😂 You’re all good girl, I’m strapped in.

[@Dhampire1976]

Longest essay vid I watched literally hit the 13 hour mark. The run time he wanted to flex isn't shit 😂😂😂

[@xx_3m0j1n_xx]

@@Dhampire1976 quinton reviews? because same lmao

[@NovaNocturnus]

@@xx_3m0j1n_xx I was gonna mention him 😂😂😭😭😭

[@Dhampire1976]

@@xx_3m0j1n_xx no,funny enough I never heard of that guy lel

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

This reviewer just doesn't understand this type of humor. Several people find Art funny

[@TheAbigailDee]

When you said "I didn't like Terrifier 2 as a movie, but I liked Terrifier 2 as an experience," I FELT THAT. I watched it once and have mixed emotions about it, but I want more of this. And I will watch Terrifier 3. And I've engaged with all of the behind the scenes info from Terrifier 2 because the SFX are INCREDIBLE!!!!

[@AtomicTopher]

a new May video is a REAL EVENT

[@screaminmeani]

Always❤❤❤

[@somebodysomething3305]

TRuuuuth ❤

[@HallowIsSmol]

honestly, its extremely comforting to know that Nyx doesnt like that scene despite being so invested in the more fucked up horror scene. im also super into it and that scene was… too much for me. it made me squirm.

[@serial_kitten]

One could argue that Art in this film serves as a metaphor for Sienna coming to terms with the monster her father was and the tragedy of all of her relationships crumbling (aka people dying) before she can cope with the trauma. Which doesn't make it a good film, to be fair. But as someone who's had a lot of ptsd nightmares, the tone and even pacing of the film work for me subjectively when viewed through that lense.

[@WappleFan]

Terrifier 3 totally destroyed that headcanon sorry lmao

[@sickonshimmer]

Theres something here about how the women in these mpvies have prolonged mutulation and torture scenes (often nude) while comparatively the men die brutally but much faster and in less of a spectacle

[@pepperypeppers2755]

Weirdly it reads as comedy to me, but that's the dissociation speaking

[@KimFromTheCrypt]

i fucking love Terrifier 2 showed it to everyone that was up for it, which werent that many

[@Milo-it1tf]

I showed the film to my cousin who loves horror movies, she never wanted to watch the film again 😂

[@Kevo6492]

@@Milo-it1tfThat’s crazy. Terrifier 2 is tame compared to a lot of other movies

[@missanonymousvr8346]

@@Kevo6492 Terrifier 3 isnt out yet.

[@Kevo6492]

@@missanonymousvr8346 Meant to put Terrifier 2

[@KimFromTheCrypt]

@@Kevo6492 it has plenty of extreme, graphic kills but is easier to watch due to Art being killer and comic relief at the same time, and putting in weird supernatural stuff (a kinda contested decision which i really vibe with). also it goes for this campy retro tone which is just really fun. i fully believe Damien Leonie didnt intend to shock some people as badly as he did.

[@KristianTKenwood]

I love these movies. they're so confidently unhinged, pure spectacle. not many other movies do you see a death that's basically 10 kills in one

[@elliot_clover]

watching this while high and when you said you were also high it gave me a nice assurance of camaraderie

[@elliot_clover]

this is the funniest thing I've ever watched

[@hideousruin]

Holy crap man. I did not expect this. I think this is the greatest video essay I have ever seen. I can't really even articulate what I want to say right now I was so blown away. I would never have thought I could feel this way about a review of Terrifier 2.

[@sickeny]

As someone who isn't a huge fan of gore (thanks for talking about these things to save my eyes and brains the trauma) I feel like there is, in some weird way a point to the "pointlessness" of the gore. Art has been shown before to be almost immune to any sort of fighting back, and just seems to do horrible awful things for the funny. I think that actually spooks a lot of people just because "Thing is so much more powerful than you, can brutalise you, WILL brutalise you, and there isn't anything you can do" is naturally horrifying. But to actually go the extra mile in the over-the top gore and unnecessary pain really hammers it home, because often in more mainstream or even just more story-driven movies they'll go out of the way to show "why" the killer does it or that they at least have "some standards" which helps the viewer sleep at night. This movie just seems to want to put that fear of pain and helplessness straight into the viewer. No holding back because this isn't that kind of horror movie, you have no control over the situation and that's what makes it terrifying. Anyway love your videos and I hope youuuuu are doing well!

[@cheyennecartwright7244]

Put it on my "watch later" but then couldn't turn away for the full 40 minutes, honestly, this video felt vital and honest and smart. Just so many damn thoughts I've got, but without writing my own essay or trying to have a two way conversation with a (well edited and produced) video, I think I have only one thought worth bringing up in the comments: This review and exploration, the work to situate Terrifier 2 among it's "peers" and in the broader culture, a sort of mapping of its rough edges, is basically the perfect companion piece and like a photo negative of the film itself. I don't think anyone could really enjoy the movie AS a movie either, but as an event it makes PERFECT SENSE, but the event is so much more than the 2 hours in a theater. It's the gofundme, the online debates, it's the horror conventions, the dress up, it's all of that, and criticisms like this here are also part of the event. I comment too much as is, but like, well, hell, if nothing else, you've convinced me to get off my high horse and finally see it (which you no doubt never intended), and also see Pearl (which the way people talk about it I shouldn't need convincing of). Now the question will be, which surprise am I in store for? Will Terrifier 2 be the movie that finally crosses my gore line, or will Pearl finally convince me that no it's ok to let Ti West keep making movies, he does have at least one good movie in him?

[@pasta6243]

The music change joke at 7:46 was pure genius. Made me spit out my drink. Huge props to you for thinking of that 😂😂😂

[@SnowpawShaw]

Wait I don't get it, help me understand

[@bean9786]

I've been watching you for years, and the success you're having as a creator and writer makes my heart burst with joy and pride. Currently going through a backlog of videos I fell behind on when some pretty awful stuff happened to my family and I feel encouraged to live and thrive by the support you've found as an author.

[@annethropophagy]

I saw terrifier 2 in theaters and was given a barf bag. It was a Dutch horror night event by the theater chain kinopolis, which was for some reason a monstervenergydrink crossover event. I'd picked up a copy of the first film in a bargain bin the year before and was excited to see the sequel.

[@PufferTube]

It’s a shame that In Praise of Shadows torpedoed his own video on conservative horror with ill advised KZbin beef, because a central part of what he was getting at was really on point. The schism between viewers who will view horror through a social, political lens, and those who are almost uncritically just looking for horror to be “cool”, with “good kills”, and often railing about “woke shit.” I’ve been thinking a lot about this recently, so where you arrived in the later part of this video really resonated. It feels like you’re speaking to an important aspect of this dichotomy.

[@Jetsetlemming]

Yeah that video was really directionless but had some very important things to say in there between talking about youtubers I've literally never heard of and do not care about

[@MrGameSecrets]

I really feel his frustration about wendigoon though im not even going to lie. He is one of the most obvious crypto fascists on the platform but he has an expertly crafted facade so that anyone that isnt very plugged in to that sphere thinks he's a "normal nice guy :)". I think i would go insane if I had to share an online subgenre with him.

[@byrongardner9299]

Ngl, I'm one of those guys that just watches films for the kills and whatnot. The best way to enjoy these types of films is basically to just not think about how stupid or bad it is

[@PufferTube]

@@byrongardner9299 oh for sure. I dig me some trash. I dig good visceral violence. I also dig all kinds of goof and/or “problematic” horror. And not everything needs be attempting to be more than what it is-as Nix gets to, this here is a reaction to the everything is an austere slow burn. And that’s fine. Horror can and should include all kinds intentions. But the idea that we have to remove horror from approaching it critically is maddening. That we’re just suppose to keep forking over money and attention, never say anything negative, with every horror movie regardless of its aesthetics or subtextual politics is a conservative approach to film.

[@snatchweaselnixred1727]

What also didn’t help his point was his attempt at gatekeeping horror to his political ideology. If you don’t agree with me you wrong stance and hills have eyes video didn’t really help his argument too.

[@grayrainbow100]

"40 MIN NYX FEARS TERRIFIER VIDEO YAYAYAYAYAYYYY"

[@Pinkgobi]

So I don't know if I didn't attend the meeting but do all trans dudes HAVE to love horror or is that just a coincidence among almost every tdude

[@rocklobster590]

@@Pinkgobiit's either evil manipulative tboy that crotchets and listens to bedroom pop or The Scariest Guy You've Ever Met

[@PHUZface1]

@@Pinkgobi its part of the Ritual. we MUST love fucked up media before the transformation sequence can set in

[@Weewoo988]

YOU WROTE FLUIDS??? Omg I had no idea!

[@millejohn]

So needed some Nyx Fears. So therapeutic. But, like, I don't get the torture porn and never have. At all. I am totally on board for gore fests as one might find in, say, Dead Alive. Or, From Beyond, which I don't know if I'd call it gory but yes, delightfully f'ed up, which is what we're here for, right? Right?. But I struggle to find the point and entertainment in the unhinged wantonness of the violence in this sort of film. Also, I have raised two children so little girls voiding themselves on the floor really ain't no biggie. Truly, one cannot comprehend the poo-horrors one faces as a parent of a helpless, tiny poo machine. I swear, there's like an inter-dimensional rift in baby bowels that just endlessly generates the most foul feces one can imagine. I am going to stop talking now. I am triggering myself.

[@TheGrayEsteban]

You kind of just triggered ME 😂 I'm pretty tolerant to gore, but what YOU described is closer to what my idea of a nightmare is (that's also why M. Night's The Visit left such an impression on me).

[@charleslipscomb2567]

You made me remember a scene in The Blair Witch Project where Josh tells Heather "Now I know why you like looking through this camera,......It's not quite reality!"

[@kattoast5662]

When will Damien Leone read fluids

[@meghan______669]

This is mostly unrelated but I recently lost my freak card. I was so excited for Kinds of Kindness and I told anybody who would listen that I was going to see some iconic freak cinema. And it was only 60% freaky. Terrifier2 might redeem me, but I don't think it's worth it.

[@omgtatercat]

I mean, horrific shlock still is an artform, just one that isn't trying to convey some deeper meaning. In horror, sometimes people just want a gorefest. It's absolutely shock value and knows it. I think to acknowledge that it crossed a line, that you didn't really enjoy it, but appreciate what it is.

[@nikiscor]

I immensely appreciate the simplified cartoon of the “scene”. I could’ve used a warmup like that for American Guinea Pig BG&G. 😩 or any other NSFL content…

[@joshdavis8381]

For some reason, I love it when horror movies are campy and dumb. Not a lot of them actually scare me, so it's another way to enjoy them

[@cough6167]

i watched neon demon in the cinema with my very catholic aunt... glad she walked out before the scene u described rly takes me back though

[@Rocketboy1313]

I watched the first one before the second was even announced as in production. I had the reaction I bet a lot of people have, "huh, that was so much more gory than I was expecting, but the clown was kind of fun." Saw the second and thought, "Higher highs and lower lows, still shakes out to entertaining in my book, especially the dream sequences." Then I went back to that anthology movie Art first appears in... and "OH BOY do I understand why he was the break out element of that movie which was dragged down by an out of nowhere alien segment."

[@eliapricot2518]

I have such a love hate relationship with both these movies. I remember there were no seats except for the first row and it was past my bedtime and before I understood my ADHD, so somehow, I fell asleep towards the end. I don't know how my brain made such an overstimulating experience somehow under stimulating, maybe it was because I got tired trying to pick which section of the screen to look at because we were right underneath it and it was in one of the biggest theaters.

[@Foundthottage]

100 Things about all hallows eve list part 1 - 1 - The film is set in modern britain 2 - It has a sequel, All Hallows' Eve 2 (unironically I remember liking one of the stories in this) 3 - Kelsey Grammar 4 - You learn about the values america has on chrismas eve 4 - the clown dies but another clwon gets a remote and rewinds the film so that clown was never shot, allowing them to continue terrorising the Schober family 6 - kindly miquella would abandon everything. his golden flesh, his blinding strength. even his fate. 7 - the hit game is coming out in 8 years (it's gonna be like dead by daylight but infinitely worse. It will make a billion dollars.) 8 - Art is generated via LLM and the hero of the movie simply turns off the server farm which hosts the AI making him, killing the clown instantly

[@anna_phylaxis]

I saw this movie on opening night with my boyfriend, who had long been a fan of Art the clown. Even after having seen All Hallows Eve and Terrifier 1, I wasn't expecting it to be quite so...that. I assumed it would be a movie only horror fans would watch, our screening had less than ten people. It wasn't until weeks later, a friend of mine had to inform me it was going crazy on social media, and asked me if it was worth the hype. To this day, I'm not sure I ever want to watch it again, but I'm absolutely still planning a movie night around it. Also, the bonk at 11:46 took me OUT.

[@senseofsenslessness]

I watched this movie with friends while we were all stoned at the theater and that bedroom scene sure did something to our psyche

[@raychamberlin1674]

i’m currently watching this review while stoned and that alone is making me have a bit of a crisis esp. thinking about That Scene so i can only imagine what actually watching the movie like this would be like

[@pnwgirl4]

I think my brain might be broken from seeing so many horror films because I wasn't really disturbed watching Terrifier 2, I just thought it was awesome. It was dumb and silly and mindless and so entertaining.

[@LivinLuxuriously]

Dude, his name is *ART* because he makes *ART* with body parts!!

[@callum6123]

I never fully bought the idea that horror is anti-woman (the first horror writers were mostly women). Seeing this I was like oh…Watching this movie I felt like what Andrea Dworkin must have felt watching Friday the 13th

[@Milo-it1tf]

It’s not anti women, there’s movies were women are the survivors, Jamie Lee Curtis is literally one of them most popular actress in any horror franchise because her character survived through each of the Halloween films, she even kills Michael Myers in the last film, mind you that last film was poorly executed and really saddened a lot of fans of the franchise, but I digress, hell there’s two women characters who survived the remake of evil dead, and evil dead rise

[@Kevo6492]

@@Milo-it1tfIt’s more complicated than saying Horror is anti women or pro women. Like any form of art in the west since like the 20th century, it’s had its ups and downs with how women are represented. Women are protagonists more so than other genres that’s true but it’s in large part because of us being taught to be more fearful for a woman being threatened than a man being threatened. And while you have fantastic representation like Alien or even The Witch you can’t also forget things like Grindhouse films which were solely about exploitation.

[@callum6123]

No yeah I don’t think horror is anti-woman but I think terrifier kinda is lol

[@Milo-it1tf]

@kevo6492 fair enough, I don’t know about grind house so I have no opinion on that, to me though it doesn’t really offend me cause I’ve seen films that have guys getting killed, I do have a limit to what I want in a horror movie, I’m not phased by gore, I’m not phased by animal abuse, I’m not even phased by a kid getting murderd in a film, what draws the line for me is if the said film shows a SA scene, but outside of that no horror film really offends me, it would take a lot to offend me

[@korva_puusti]

​@@Milo-it1tfthe final girl trope can still be steeped in misogyny. you ever notice how the sole surviving girl is never the slutty cheerleader character?

[@boginoid]

I'm sorry but people complained about Terrifier (1) for not really having a... Story? Are they lying to themselves that they watch these for the story or are they trying to justify it to their peers??

[@Matrim42]

I honestly don’t know how I feel about Terrifier 2. I don’t know what it says about me, but it failed to shock me at any point. My biggest feeling during “the scene” was primarily…tedium I guess? I wasn’t bored, but it felt more like a chore than something that was viscerally challenging. The violence was so over the top that it crossed the line into parody. It was basically a cartoon. I don’t know, I can’t really articulate why these films just don’t hit right for me. The actor who plays Art gives a fine performance, but the character does nothing for me. The plot doesn’t really matter all that much, for all that I can tell, so when the goofy violence shit doesn’t hit I’m not really left with anything to care about.

[@brandi598]

Agreed. I have no idea what the appeal of this really is. I find even that graphic scene very underwhelming, like you said it's just so over the top it's silly. There's nothing horrifying about it, I feel nothing when I watch the movie. I wish more people in the genre understood that horror is a lot more psychological than just this silly gorey nonsense. And that's not to say the film isn't "art." I agree it's art, but art can still be pointless and boring LMAO

[@umagralha]

@@brandi598 I mean, silly gorey nonsense has its place, the thing is that the Terrifier movies accomplish NOTHING. I am into horror comedy, I absolutely LOVE some horror movies that do not scare or disturb me even a bit, because they're fun and/or interesting, but the Terrifier movies just are not.

[@Kevo6492]

I would say because there’s nothing to Art the Clown besides violence and being playful. There’s no ethos to his character. There is nothing driving him to be violent nor is there a metaphorical representation he invokes within the context of the story. Like even though Michael and Jason are silent like he is, Michael is the embodiment of pure evil coming back in the suburbs to show how white flight was mistaken. Even Chucky represents corporations marketing to kids in the 80’s. What’s Art to any of that? Nothing really.

[@rayortiz313]

Dude.... like a lot of horror fans you're noticing that the movie is just....OK. It delivers the gore the teenage horror fans want (that "dare you to watch it" thing), it has just enough of that indie-horror dream logic to trick some horror fans into thinking it's edgy and artsy. But at the end of the day its not that funny, it's not really that suspenseful, you don't really care that much about the characters, and Art the Clown is not interesting beyond being a "creepy clown" cliche.The movie isn't bad enough to complain about but it's far from a masterpiece.

[@wilderulz]

I just hope that the actors had fun making this movie; i feel that horror would be a fun genre to act in for the most part

[@thatsabadname6242]

8:56 “I liked that moment” 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🖐️

[@JavaSchoolBlues]

I genuinely love Terrifier 2. It knows exactly what it is, and it never strays from the concept. It's batshit from start to finish and I can't wait for the next movie!

[@lurtz8656]

This isnt a humble brag, *the scene* in Terrifier 1 made me almost puke, i hate to leave for a bit and try it again slightly drunker. But Terrifier 2's *The Scene* was somehow so cartoonishly over the top that i wasnt insanely messed up by it. I think its just a kind of gore that somehow didnt mess with my brain like the Saw Scene from Terrifer 1 did.

[@persephoenix]

that's valid, i haven't seen the films yet but from the commentary and reviews i've seen, the first movie's *scene* seems more unpleasant to me. like, i can picture the act and how brutal and painful it would be. the second movie's *scene* seems very convoluted and over the top, like you said, so rather than thinking "oh my god that would be so painful" i'm like "dude wtf is going on- now he's got salt??"

[@lurtz8656]

@persephoenix definitely, it's almost so overwhelming that it becomes absurdist and borderline funny. The first movie's "the scene" is one activity that takes too long to complete and is uncomfortable the entire way through

[@aldokurti3272]

I fucking love the Terrifier franchise.Can't wait for the third installment.

[@ijansk]

To me, the last really scary creature in horror films is the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers. Terrifier is stupid, blood for the sake of blood without a plot at all.

[@SilentEmilie]

Totally agree about the lack of shitty horror movies. I'm nostalgic for times when me and my friends would watch the latest horror flick - just because it looked scary and fun, not because the reviews were great.

[@kiplinkaldahl1298]

Nyx, you articulate complicated feelings about horror (that I share in) with such clarity. So rad, thanks for what you do!

[@lbcyber]

I really don't know why I decided to watch the film... maybe it was morbid curiosity, I don't know... because I'm generally not into slashers. And so I know I'm not the audience for this kind of thing, but it really did feel like a distillation of what I don't like, ultimately. Terrifier 2 is a film brimming with malice. Malice that isn't coupled by any sort of coherent message or perspective on itself or really anything in general. It's just: Malice. And "the scene" is a perfect example of that, because it goes on for so fucking long, does nothing for the story and stretches far beyond what would be necessary or for a lot of people what is even tolerable. It at least got me thinking into what I look for in genre films and what, more specifically, I avoid. I didn't hate it, but I liked it far, far less. "The scene" though isn't even really what stuck with me the most. Over the course of the film my mind had been trying to wrap around what, if anything, it's trying to say or if the film even has any sort of self-awareness or purpose at all. Every time there was room for legitimate satire it squandered it, pressing on as though completely unaware the opportunity was there. I really had no choice but to the come to the conclusion that it really had no awareness or forethought. If it intended to be satirical, it had no understanding of the concept. Or did it? My brain was working a lot because what else was it supposed to do for over 2 fucking hours of senseless spectacle? The scene I actually can't stop thinking about is the short one near the end in the funhouse "church" where the clown, wearing religious robes, whips the brother, a child, over a pew with a cat o' nine tails for over a minute. The whip has shards of metal embedded into the weave. It fits almost exactly with the description of the implements used by the catholic church to abuse children in church-run schools and boarding houses, and I'm thinking here "oh, oh shit, the movie might be going THERE. It might actually have the awareness to say something now, and say it coherently." But then it kind of doesn't, or if it really wanted to, it fucks up its metaphor so catastrophically it's actually shameful. Sienna jumps in, still dressed as a half-naked angel, to shield her brother from the abuse. Eventually she steals the whip and (again, dressed as an angel) returns the favour by whipping the clown in retribution. Like, what the fuck is the imagery here and what the fuck am I watching? The best option in my mind was to conclude that the film wasn't aware of what it was doing, because otherwise finding intent in this mess of imagery would be far more unsettling than the bleach and salt. For the movie's benefit, you can only really watch it presuming there is no brain in its skull. It just is what it is, and what it is is plain malice. It's at best ugly and unpleasant and I'd argue it kind of hates women if it weren't so mindless. 7/10.

[@grislyaddams9310]

I'm just a dumb old man, but you make me laugh. You have a great sense of humor. Thank you.

[@underworld-USA]

Wonderful video! Thanks for all the hard work you do to bring us quality review content like this, love your channel

[@grayrainbow100]

*Kisses your ring like da mob boss* Oh it’s been a long time since a movie review made me feel anything… or think… at all. I took nearly 1k words of notes while watching this, and now I’m going to try and gather them together for this comment no one will read or care about, but I will! I will care so much!!!! “Terrifier 2 is a movie that you can watch… if you want to.” My experience with Terrifiers 1 and 2 was simple and uninspired. I knew the reputation they had, I knew they were considered cinematic gauntlets of filth and gore, and as I’ve expanded my film appetite, thoroughly enjoying such titles as Salo and Aftermath, and turning my nose up at Tumbling Doll of Flesh because, frankly, it’s just fucking boring, in my mind, the Terrifiers were the holy grail. Surely, these would be my saving grace, the films to finally make me flinch. I never, ever intended to be a shockhound, but I guess stumbling on a beheading video as so many 15 year olds did way back when, that set me up for something I’m still chasing. Because, much to my disappointment, the Terrifiers weren’t it. I didn’t flinch, at all. I did enjoy them, and after watching all the BTS footage, I can say with certainty they are masterclasses of practical effects, but they are disappointing because they left me out. I wanted to throw up in my proverbial theatre seat. I wanted that so badly! For me, personally, I was left lacking whereas it seems the majority not only got the correct response out of it, but were tested beyond that, too. And I wanna get into the conventions of slashers and gore, here, a bit, to try and examine what that means. In my opinion, the movie does cross the correct line, certainly not the one culture wanted or expected, but the one it needed. Regarding the bedroom scene, specifically, it’s not about the characters, and it’s almost not even about the gore, at least the minutiae of it. It’s about us. This scene exists because everyone wanted it to. Maybe not to these exact specifications, but anyone who saw Terrifier 1 wanted the hacksaw scene put to shame. I think it’s silly for people to lose their minds over the bedroom scene when they specifically went to the theatre on the recommendation of people throwing up, and then when *they* throw up it’s like, let’s shit on the movie because it did the thing I knew it would do, but it did it *to me.* Finally, a slasher managed to viscerally affect the audience, and that’s a grave, grave cinematic sin. You watch slashers (and horror, in general) to appreciate what *isn’t* happening to you, but to someone else. So when you are suddenly made a victim because the movie decided “yeah, I’m going to victimize you, too, bitch, dance for me, monkey” that’s unacceptable. We’re supposed to be able to examine the film, but the film should never be able to examine us, back, but that’s what Terrifier does with these scenes, completely inverting audience/film relations. People want these movies only to hurt those contained in its own story, but Terrifier couldn’t give two shits what you want, because it wants to hurt you, too. And it did! It hurt you so fucking bad, you weenies! You want to see shock and gore? Okay, then, here you go, here’s one of the worst things you could never imagine on your own, and it sucks right? It sucks sooooo fucking bad? Yup! Contend with that, you sick, sick voyeurs. Am I really sad that wasn’t my experience? Yes, I am. Am I really grateful I get to instead enjoy the shockwaves of everyone else’s disdain and vomit? Yes, I am. Am I going to be first in line for Terrifier 3, salivating to see how Damien tops the bedroom scene and hoping, *praying* it metaphorically degloves me? Yes, yes I fucking am.

[@kammhia397gaming9]

Honestly, I'm probably the ONLY person who Found THAT scene to be absolutely hilarious because of how over the top it was.

[@CloudMountainJuror]

Nope, you’re not the only one. In fact you can’t convince me that that scene was supposed to be taken 100% seriously. The effects are too phony (not bad, just clearly fake and not intending to feel gritty or grounded), the tone is too ludicrous, Art is too Art, and come on, him coming back with SALT and BLEACH is dark comic gold. It’s supposed to be disturbing for sure but in a fun gorehound-schlocky way. People actually getting sick in response to the scene genuinely does surprise me, because it really does not feel real enough to justify that to me.

[@surrealducks]

25:55 a friend of mine who recommended this to me talked about Sienna’s awesome costume and general badassery being a significant part of why she liked it so much

[@Kawaiicourt]

I met Damien, Art, Frank and some more of the crew at a convention in Dallas and they are awesome people! Ended up at a bar where they were at and had drinks and talked about the movie. They’re good people ❤

[@BeartoeConCarne]

Im starting to miss covid when i watched all ur recommendations and had a blast not working for a month LOL

[@Skip-Towne]

the intro, where you're talking about the cinema attendance decline, is so true. I went to see Baghead and the first omen in theatres and they were so empty. It was very bizarre being in this wide open lobby meant to accommodate dozens of people, felt like I shouldnt be there. I mean, i'm not necessarily complaining as someone who doesnt like crowds 😂 but it was still kinda sad. Edit: hang on I dont think that's exactly what you were talking about lmao. Oh well, my point still stands.

[@geektanic]

I do remember thinking "my God, was that mean-spirited" during THE scene. I agree that the movie was too long (I saw a late showing and struggled the last third or so of the movie to fall asleep), but it gets major points for being the only movie (past childhood) that ever gave me nightmares, and I watch a LOT of horror, including extreme horror. I feel like it was the first really mainstream extreme horror movie, and as much psychic damage as it caused me (doubly so later when I found out my ex took our tween daughter to see it during visitation), I also loved it. I felt gross and dirty after, like when I read an extreme horror novel, but it was more satisfying. (Also, sorry I still haven't finished Fluids, despite buying a signed copy ages ago)

[@lolrentz]

love sitting thru you desperately trying to explain why i watched Terrifier 2 in theaters when i did in fact watch All Hallow's Eve the anthology film containing the first short film featuring Art the Clown and enjoyed Terrifier

[@Nu_Anna]

I showed it to my friends in the bhu. Taking some time out from horror movies for awhile. I luv your music channel btw

[@lazylittledragon]

i love these movies because it never felt like 'gore for the sake of gore'. i think they know how far they need to push it for it to be INTENTIONAL. like for it to work it HAS to be too much and it's., SO much, and it works somehow. it reads like the world's most fucked up mime performance, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. yeah i mean i'll NEVER watch it by myself at night again but i still love it

[@TheDrLeviathan]

As someone who's read both Girl Parts and Fluids, I'm now having my own crisis watching that author having a crisis over this movie.

[@MysticMinis-ol3co]

I loved these movies. They were a silly goose time, made me laugh heaps, and I absolutely love practical effects so it was just a blast. As always, love hearing your perspective. Also my spouse tried to make me get rid of your book Fluids after we read it aloud together when it first came out and we hit your own ‘the scene’ 😂🙌🏽

[@lilithsenesca2535]

Pleeeease do audiobook versions of Girl Flesh and Rosaline(hopefully that's the correct spelling). I love the audiobook version of Fluids which I still listen to all the way through all the time. So I would very much love to have audiobook versions of your other books. Love all your content and stuff so keep doing the good things!

[@neo545]

i’d agree with your take about not liking terrifier 2 as a film, but liking the experience. i don’t think it’s a good movie by any means but it’s so crazy that watching it felt pretty special. i feel the same way about a lot of gory shocking movies

[@SylvesterLazarus]

I have to write a comment before watching this because I know any critical look will shatter everything I know about Terrifier. I literally saw both a few days ago (+ All Hollow's Eve (2013) which was the first feature film with Art) and I immediately said "I wonder what May would say about this.." i honestly thought if these movies were for made for nothing but violence, then unfortunately they were not violet enough.. but also I saw way too many things online, including casually referencing real.. Cartel videos of you-know-what-kind to make horror art, so I'm pretty deep into not being able to be disturbed. I feel the best of both movies were seeing how much fun everyone was having from the makeup department and designs (I love the unapologetic Vallejo/Bell like costume of Sienna from the 2nd movie) to the practical effects and acting. If many movies are masterpieces made out of trash and duct tape, then Terrifier movies are trash made out of the best pieces of handmade craft that someone pieced together by DIY superglue that was made by melting a plastic bottle with an Axe spray and a lighter. I'm still thinking what Terrifier 2 would've felt like if they edited it non-linearly where the carnival part is cut apart and inserted into the movie every 20-ish minutes. I'd love to see that edit.

[@Kevo6492]

Even compared to other fictional media, the Terrifier films are tame. Like yeah they’re more violent than anything from the major studios or even the lower tiered studios but that doesn’t mean they’re like this height of disturbing films.

[@SylvesterLazarus]

@@Kevo6492 Definitely. I feel that when people see the disturbing scenes in Terrifier after being hyped up to it, they kind of experiencing a collective amnesia over how many mainstream movies did even more disturbing things. Alien franchise, Final Destination, Mortal Kombat, etc.. and half of us were glued to the screen with those as kids.

[@quiteinwalker5489]

​@@SylvesterLazarusyeah I tried too watch them all I can't believe I sat and watched them all, they are horrible I cant watch them again huge waste of time scifi movie quality, stupid victims 😂 horrible acting i cant get behind something that's this terrible

[@Tarnished-bn5gq]

The Terrifier series moreso emphasizes the pure batshit insanity of itself than any real horror, tbh. It feels moreso comical due to the absurd amount of gore and graphic violence than it is shocking (though some scenes are pretty shocking still), which is pretty on-brand for slasher movies. It’s tonal inconsistency makes it feel both like a horror movie as well as a black comedy or satire of the slasher genre, and that’s what’s so captivating about it.

[@bbyghostie1044]

I feel like people sometimes are talking about two different things when discussing "shitty" horror movies. I love campy horror that is original or over the top/not super deep, and horror that makes you think. When i talk about shitty horror movies, im thinking of movies that feel unoriginal, have no passion behind it, and feel designed by a studio to cash in on whatever is popular. Movies that are filled with tropes and a generic plot. A lot of the 2000s remakes and reboots feel like this for example (i liked some of them, but overall). Or movies that take something from another popular horror film and try to copy it without any creativity. Basically just wanna throw my 2 cents in that sometimes a person isnt necessarily talking about movies like this when criticizing "shitty" horror

[@Mrtz1992]

Looking forward to your reaction to Terrifier 3

[@anonymousperson8211]

How can you be so consistently witty and entertaining??

[@hershelroswell]

pov: you're sitting outside at a picnic table in the garden/outside area of a pub and an intensely stoned lady is explaining the fucked up gore clown film to you (she's holding a glass in her hand and gesticulating with it but hasn't taken a sip since she sat down)

[@illyriashade56]

It was really, really funny watching Terrifier 2 explode like it did and it remains one of my favorite movie experiences ever because of that. I think the light in the cashier's eyes died a little when I came back to the theater to see it a second time (it was so insane to me that it was in ACTUAL MOVIE THEATERS that I had to see it again to make sure I hadn't dreamed it all)

[@yabits7527]

Wow I had no clue you wrote Fluids! I loved that book, and yeah that one scene in it was putrid but so well written.

[@mantispantis]

I feel like no one went to see Terrifier 2 for the plot, we all went for Art the Clown.

[@straycat698]

I discovered Terrifier on Netflix one night many years ago, it’s been one of my favorite horror movies ever since. Watched All Hallow’s Eve after that & then watched 2 the day it came out in theatres & had the opposite experience. I was a bit afraid to watch this because I’m one of those people who dislikes seeing criticism against my favorite movies, but your reviews are so funny & insightful & the video editing is right up my alley :-)

[@PhillipXJ9]

Nyx i always love your music choices.. do you have a spotify or anything i can follow!?

[@nyxfears]

All the music in this is my music, just look up May Leitz on Spotify

[@MyLoserBrain]

Ive never clicked so fast. Finally someone who GETS ME AND MY DISTASTE FOR THIS FRANCHISE.

[@lightningbugtriathol]

I saw Terrifier 2 in the theater; I was by myself... It felt more special that I was alone enjoying it.

[@Itsjettondon05]

Coming into this video baked asf and with zero expectations I hope the first ten minutes won’t be the most moment of my life

[@exotictoxics]

I can’t wait for the third but apparently there’s gonna be child death and idk if I can handle that like “the scene” of two was crazy but manageable but child death from this series might just turn me off of horror for awhile

[@MxBNatural]

Bad Ben fandom rise up

[@jane_gorelove]

great video as always May!! also who woulda guessed, extremely violent movie in which the main attraction is a woman being tortured, what a surprise, how transgressive of the director /s

[@spencerw4160]

Ye :/

[@CrazyGalaxyCat]

if i had a dollar for how many books and movies have this shit, I be a super rich

[@katieburak93]

Get over it

[@katieburak93]

​@@anitaremenarova6662Uh no

[@IRJ53I]

I think Damien Leone's reaction to THAT SCENE can be explained by the natural disconnect of actually filming the scene vs seeing it. He sees every effect and camera trick that went into making it. He probably sees flaws that he might cringe at, flaws that are invisible to the average viewer. That's just my two cents, maybe he is just a weird freak. I mean he is, but like, more so.

[@Veiled_Lepidoptera]

3:20 into this video and suddenly everything makes sense.... Also, you could've waited 1 more minute for that reveal and it would've been utter perfection.

[@akisutahatter3245]

i was not expecting random shots of kings cross station in a nyx fears video but here we are

[@b3b3j4y]

lol going into it knowing it was explicitly a gore film helped. that the fun is only un the practical effects. honestly i remembered waaay more about the first terrifier than than the 2nd. i think the showcase scene in the first movie was more insane than the 2nd. i also thought they must be doing something right because i hate art the clown, like i cant revere him like other horror stars, like jason or freddy or leatherface. art is the total embodiment of cruelty and its amazing they can get that reaction from people

[@timk6181]

Haha something actually freaked out May, I didn't think it was possible 😂😂

[@bivolos9432]

i dont keep up with most horror happenings myself so i enjoy seeing you review these things. however it does spark me to wonder just how bad stuff like That Scene is... i personally feel near nothing during other gross out watches except one specific squick i have that doesnt seem like its in this movie... if i ever do get around to watching it, i suppose ill come back here and re-write this with my thoughts. thank you for another great video may!!