Pedal Switcher PX8 - Preset Mode

[@fr33rid3r33]

Great video, a lot better than a description of "Eight true bypass audio loops using the finest gold contact relays." I like the little more in-depth real world example on how it works. THANK YOU.

[@theRodofwar]

GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! others don't explain as well as this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mattgilbert7347]

Thank dude, just got one of these and I am dumb. Need to be shown stuff, the manual just confused me. You made it clear - and I am also blind as the proverbial!

[@mattgilbert7347]

That SD9 rips! What's your guitar/amp bro? That's a lead sound I could live with for a long while eh.

[@fwfrazorx]

Any chance you could answer a few questions about it? I've been researching them and think I want to go with the Voodoo PX8 Plus but wondering about using pedals direct as well as thru the effects loop but have no where to turn, help me! lol

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@fwfrazorx Get the PX-8 Plus. If you want to use 4CM for the effects loop, it's easy (either PX-8 or the Plus will do it) - you just use one of the loops, you can even use the insert. The easiest way to think of it as treat your preamp as an overdrive pedal. FX loop send to Loop/Insert return Loop/Insert out to FX loop return. I think that's correct, I don't use effects loops in amps all that much. Basically, you want to send from the preamp (FX loop send) into the return of a loop/the insert. Then you want to send the loop/insert into the FX loop return. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaaah5-MpK1jrLs I've never actually done it because I run everything into the front. Maybe that video will help. Think of the PX-8 as working just the same as the processor he is using - it's a de facto switcher with FX in loops.

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@fwfrazorx I've given up on this thing. It's very limited without MIDI and I have been trying to learn MIDI for a year and it's just too difficult.

[@fwfrazorx]

I ended up making a pedal board due to being unsure of exactly what I even want at this time. It's actually working out well but I still like the thought of the switcher. Maybe someone offers training? Maybe you could reach out to Voodoo Labs. I have to imagine you aren't the only one to have trouble. If you ever think of getting rid of it let me know what you might want but again, I have to imagine there is some kind of training out there and I'd start with Voodoo. It only makes sense they would offer assistance for customer support.

[@CharlesKlutts]

Thanks for the quick reply....looking forward to the video

[@stevegriffith1363]

Could somebody from Voodoo Lab PLEASE do a video on programming a PX8 Plus using midi with a Timeline/Big Sky??? I cannot find a video explaining how the midi works on thevPX8Plus. Thank you.

[@neloramirezguitar]

Must have !!!!thanks for the videos James you always have great tone and really cool demonstrations

[@paulvorvick2817]

This is great - I will definitely use your tape method. I've been using my px-8 for a couple years in loop mode but now need to switch to preset. Have you done a video on sending midi changes via this unit? I want to, for instance, send a midi change to my delay and turn on an overdrive at the same time. Making midi changes is what I haven't figured out yet.

[@DerAlteK7]

Thanks man, the video I was looking for.

[@rebelrehal]

Can you make two different presets with same pedals/loops.... but different settings with this?

[@bootlegapples]

Voodoo Labs a quick question:I own a Strymon Big Sky,would I be able to recall different presets within that pedal?FE If I wanted to assign the Big Sky's "cloud" reverb setting on PX8's preset 1 and say the Big Sky's "spring" reverb setting on PX8's preset 2?I was also thinking of picking up a Line6 M5 and wondered if I can do the same there as well(?)thx,if so this opens up a whole new world.

[@jaredmann3452]

do I need an external MIDI program change unit to save midi presets from my Strymon gear?

[@damagecase138]

I'm considering buying this, but I really need it to switch channels on my amplifier as well..... Might be rough with my Mode Four

[@diogosales7592]

Hello, I would like to know if this pedal will help me to do the 3-pedal program on channel 1, and then 2 more pedals on channel 2, because I already want to leave pre-defined programs for a certain song.

[@frankgrocholski]

Very cool piece, one question, are you able to run 4 loops in front of the amp and 4 through an effects loop?

[@sleudianfrip]

Frank Grocholski Unfortunately not. However, as I understand it, you can interrupt the chain between loops 6 and 7, so effectively you could run 2 up front and 6 in the loop, or vice versa.

[@Cinnemax77]

Once your in Pre-set mode does this have the ability to use Channels 1-8 AND the presets? And if so, how do you toggle 1-8 in normal mode than use the presets without turning it on or off? 'Splain Lucy...(ty)

[@aellis4616]

Are you only allowed 3 “presets” which means button 4 your bank switch. Or for example, can you have 7 presets? And maybe make button 8 the bank switcher?

[@voodoolabofficial]

The original PX-8 shown in this video was only capable of three presets. The current model PX-8 PLUS can hold up to 36 user presets: voodoolab.com/product/px-8-plus We also offer the PX-8 PLUS switcher built into a pedalboard: voodoolab.com/product/dingbat-px/

[@diegoboari1]

How do you separ the modulation pedals in send/return from drive pedal that is pluged in the pre amp?

[@gustavocirigliano5555]

Hi. I see that when you change from one preset to another, you have differents settings on the Time Line Delay. How do you do that? Is through a MIDI connection with the PX-8?

[@mattgilbert7347]

Yeah he's sending PC messages with each preset.

[@MrBingping]

Ok, so a sound I use is a boost into a muff into an eq, if I make that one of the presets, can I then add on chorus or flange on top of it using the non preset switches?

[@TheFridge691]

I understand this has midi presets but if you are like me and you only want to use internal presets i.e different comibinations of your pedals 3 is not enough. Please does anyone know of a switcher that allows 8 or more saved preset combinations of your effects pedals which is laid out in a line of switches e i.e with the same small footprint not two rows of four swithches or four switches with a button to change it to another four and is under 250 to buy?????????????

[@drew9497]

Joyo pro switcher.

[@mattgilbert7347]

joe dibb Disaster Area DPC8-EZ

[@thaddeusfields4360]

Does this work with tap tempo delay and tremolos? I use the Wampler FTE and Latitude.

[@dk22fly]

that pitchfork setting is awesome man! what is the setting if you dont mind sharing. thanks!

[@HubLocationSound]

Maybe a dumb question, but can I use a PX-8 loop in place of my amps channel selector? Will it open/close the circuit just like the amps switch does?

[@kiwiradioNZ]

awesome tutorial really helped!!! A+++

[@brianbowersox8392]

What is changing the patches on the Timeline here? Is there some other midi device sending the commands since the PX8 doesn't.

[@voodoolabofficial]

Brian Bowersox The PX8 can send program change information. When you use that special internal preset mode, when you hit preset 1, 2 or 3 it will also send that information via MIDI cable to any device that can read it like a Strymon, Eventide H9, etc...

[@maximilianendter]

Like it very much! Dumb question: Consider an amp with Tube distortion. Is there a way to drigger the crunch Channel for lets say Switch 2? Or do I need to run it in crunch at low gain all the time and add boost? Thank you!

[@AlexFernandezSMS]

Hi James! I've seen several of your videos and you get some great tones. I'm wondering why you always use the MXR bass compressor instead of their studio compressor model???

[@alexandrufiu]

nice video

[@jaikcooper8999]

can you show it used with the commander?

[@mrjugil]

when i use a preset, can i turn on or turn off 1 or some effects without changing my preset setup? ex: in my preset 1 i use tube screamer,phase 90 and small clone. is it possible to turn off the small clone or maybe turn on some effects without changing my preset setup?

[@voodoolabofficial]

You'll need instant access switches on top of preset switches. That would mean using the older Commander preset strip with a PX loop strip. By default, that's how the larger GCX and Ground Control Pro usually work. You can have 8 individual instant access footswitches along with 4 preset switches.

[@voodoolabofficial]

While the systems outlined below always physically have "Instant Access" switches and "Preset" switches available, you can go in and out of those as setup modes. For instance, the PX8 can run as an 8 loop strip, or go into another mode that lets you access the left side as Presets, and stacks the right switches as Instant Access. If you go to 2:14 in the video, you'll see a walk thru of that.

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@voodoolabofficial So, basically, you have four loops per preset that you can drop in or out. The left side activates the mode and selects the presets. Is that right? Will any MIDI controller (eg Disaster Area DMC-4XL gen3, Tech 21 MIDI Mouse etc) work with the unit? The Commander and MIDI Moose are really large. Great units, just too big for my space. Also, does it have MIDI *thru*??

[@jpfortuno]

Hi. Which cable brand are you using in this demo to connect the pedals?

[@voodoolabofficial]

George L's solderless, JP.

[@w1third]

Does it change amp channels?

[@cole_brew]

How many feet of custom cable is needed?

[@heliobluesrock]

Reeeaaally coooool!

[@kraven7]

Is there enough space for wah beside your volume ped?

[@sunsmusic]

Question, which wasn't answered before: if I am in a preset, can I add one more loop on the fly? Thanks!

[@mattgilbert7347]

You can add as many as are not engaged.

[@en.riquecastillo]

After saving 3 presets. Can I add an extra effect. Let's say I'm in preset 1 with clean sound. Then just hit pedal 5(Distortion) on the px8. and play a solo and then take it off?

[@mattgilbert7347]

Yes.

[@ChuckSilva]

+1 what about the rest of signal chain? What kind of guitar? Guitar pick ups? Amplification? Very nice...thanx!

[@voodoolabofficial]

Chuck Silva Just a basic 50s style stratocaster and old tweed Deluxe. Nothing special!

[@ChuckSilva]

... it's not wired in stereo? thanks again!

[@mrjugil]

what type of pedaltrain is that?

[@jeffmsnipes]

A second row of 8 switches : 5 preset, 2 for bank up and down and one for bypass would have been more user friendly

[@ryanmaroney4793]

When you switch to loops with no delay from a loop with delay, does the delay spill over, or is it a hard cut off and you loose the trails?

[@mattgilbert7347]

Hard cut-off unless you have a delay with trails mode.

[@larryh.3173]

Great demo, although, to be honest, I now have a ton more questions (as it appears many others have). Ah, so much tech... SO little time! lol Past that, I wanted to compliment you on what was demonstrated here... and maybe more importantly, I want to say that (IMO) you were not only getting some wonderful tones, but also that your playing, touch and timing here (in a "mere" demo) were really, really great! Nice job! (Do you have any music available online?)

[@thomasscillieri296]

Awesome tool, pity there isn't more presets..

[@w6xu]

Thomas Scillieri The built-in preset mode has 3. If you use any MIDI controller, or an effect processor like the M9, to send program change messages, then you can have 128 presets.

[@mattgilbert7347]

w6xu Will a Line6 M5 or the new NUX Cerberus work? It'd be cool if I could have the Cerberus "on the ground" and then the Px8 with my pedalboard hidden away,.connecting by a MIDI cable so that the pedals don't get beer spilled on them. I was told that the MIDI controller has to be able to send SysEx.

[@nosidamde]

Would the PX8 replace the need to buy a Pedal Switcher and Commander?

[@mattgilbert7347]

No. You'd still need a Commander, but this would cover your switcher needs.

[@KevinPlaysGuitar]

Is that a pedaltrain novo24?

[@anthonyespinoza2898]

Would this pedal switcher fit on the medium voodoo lab board?

[@voodoolabofficial]

A PX switcher is 22" x 16" and has a specific pedalboard product made so it can fit under the board. A medium is 22" x 13.5". You should be able to get in on the medium, but it would probably be better to use right angle cables since you'll run out of depth if the cabling has straight ends.

[@CharlesKlutts]

Would you do a video using the control switcher with the PX8. Using the control switcher to change channels on amp with the 3 presets?

[@voodoolabofficial]

Charles Klutts By default, if you're in this special mode, the PX8 will send program change 1, 2 or 3 and Control Switcher will grab it no program. Video coming.

[@CharlesKlutts]

Cool, Thanks...

[@mattgilbert7347]

Voodoo Lab So you cannot have more than 3 presets total no matter what, not without an external controller? Is it not that you can have 3 presets per bank or am I misunderstanding?

[@mattgilbert7347]

+Voodoo Lab can't find that video. Did you upload it?

[@guitarwhores753]

Awesome feature, but it's way too confusing without labels on the top. Should update the design to list controls on top.

[@vikzillllla7541]

Nice pedals, doin some Hendrix stuff?

[@mattgilbert7347]

I've been through a few switching systems and the PX has the least tone-suck (basically zero). The fancy ones like Boss ES Series that can change pedal order or run effects in parallel really took a lot out of my tone. A decent buffer helped but overall it was still fairly lifeless when compared with guitar>amp or guitar> PX8>amp. I'll take quality tone over bells and whistles any day.

[@jaikcooper8999]

show it with the commander

[@compulsor5853]

Uhhh- cool, but sorry WAYYYY too convoluted for me, and I suspect many of us 'plug and play' types. Gotta be a way to make it more 'car stereo', in other words: say, 3 banks, then just press and hold the corresponding on/off switches- done.

[@voodoolabofficial]

Compulsor This is a special mode with 3 presets. There are no banks. You can use products like the Ground Control Pro if you want to access all 128 presets available in PX8.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Voodoo Lab No banks. Damn.

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@voodoolabofficial Got your Commander on the way. That one has banks for my presets. So I'll be able to have more than 3. The MIDI seems dead easy when compared with other units I've tried or looked at. I tried other MIDI controllers but I could not get them to work properly with my PX8. Having all VL helps with regard to compatibility. Also- yours are by far the truest of the true bypass loop switchers out there. Even the mighty Boss ES8 & GigRig2 sucked a fair amount of tone. Problems with buffers, all that tech in those units *must* make a difference. I like your simple "quality over quantity" approach.

[@johnmeeks9308]

kinda stupid no little button to on or off near power switch

[@Youreallysuckguy]

Only 3 presets ? Such a shame !

[@voodoolabofficial]

John Silva There are 128 presets in PX8 that you can recall from any MIDI pedal. This just shows the internal mode if you don't want to use any other external hardware.

[@Youreallysuckguy]

Voodoo Lab Sorry my previous post was not clear. I meant there are only 3 switchs which can act as presets selector. To go to the preset 4, it seems you have to go to the next bank. Personnaly I found that 3 presets in direct access are not enough. Though for most people, I guess that's enough.

[@LeviBulger]

Yeah, it does suck that you would have to use midi instead of just using a bank switch, or having up to 8 presets like you would think. Would make a gig much easier, switching banks for each song. Falls short of being great because of this, and is incredibly overpriced. The boss switchers they just came out with not too long ago are a way better bang for buck. Even the joyo ones aren't too bad, but kinda have some tone coloration

[@mattgilbert7347]

Voodoo Lab Any MIDI pedal? I thought they had to be able to send SysEx. I wanted to integrate my Boss ES-5 with my PX8 but apparently it cannot be done.

[@mattgilbert7347]

John Silva So you can have more than 3 presets total? You change banks to get to those other presets?

[@howardklopak628]

We use these, but our guys don't like Preset mode. They find it much more logical to just use the individual switches per loop, albeit can take some dancing when there are multiple stomps to do at once. . . so don't get me wrong, Preset Mode is a great feature, and having the option to use either way is perfect. However too bad VOODOO Labs is missing another useful feature, which would boost their sales IMO. Many guitar players need a tech to help with switching or want to be able to switch from more than one spot on the stage. It is so stupid that a player is moored to his pedal board by his mic stand, has to hit drive for a solo, wander the stage to express energy, and then run back to the pedal board to turn off drive as the solo crescendos/completes. Sooooo dumb. We sorta solved this using the MIDI Solutions Dual Footswitch Controller. We have a remote dual footswtich with LEDs (On and Off, double switch) to turn of the main solo drive on/off. But it would be so easy to just have a second PX8 with midi cables running between the PX8s, and allow the switching to be just mimic one to the other. The programming change would be so simple for Voodoo labs, and many of us would buy extra PX8s. One for the guitar player, one for the tech, or one by the players mic stand, and another at the front center lip of the stage. The other use is that with 2 of these the one upfront could just be the controller, and the one by the amp could be where all the pedals are, or a hybrid with pre-input fx upfront, and the insert fx by the amp, whatever. . . seems to useful and easy to not already be reality. I did talk to a tech there and he just didn't get that it was a huge deal to certain customers. . . I mean why spend $1000 on a decent wireless and then be moored to a pedal bored. . . so unfortunately the idea died during the call. Oh well. . . so much for innovation. . . makes me want to build my own.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Voodoo Lab Commander seems like a pretty good solution. You still need it nearby but the pedals and switcher can be tucked away elsewhere.

[@marksadventures3889]

Giggety ..lol!

[@AndSoMuchMor]

I wish I had never bought this thing.

[@ClamsAnonymous]

awesome unit...but it's soooooooooooooo wiiiiiiidddddeeeee

[@robertzimmerman970]

That’s what she said 😝