Pegasus vs Two Cylon Baseships - Battlestar Galactica 1978

[@maximussarcasticus1312]

"Raise the shield!" "The shield? What is it?" "It's a protective device designed to stop enemy fire, but that's not important right now."

[@DeaconShadow]

I LOL’d.

[@Gizziiusa]

shirley, you cant be serious ?

[@crunchie9362]

@@Gizziiusa Don't call him that.

[@GoldenFava]

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

[@123ethanscomedy]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop doing amphetamines

[@AdamBlackArts]

"I picked the wrong centon to stop sniffing glue!" -- Commander Kane, probably

[@kurtgreaser988]

Dang it you beat me to it.

[@sandal_thong8631]

_Airplane_

[@AdamBlackArts]

@@kurtgreaser988 surely you can't be serious!

[@kurtgreaser988]

@@AdamBlackArts I am serious and don't call me Shirley.

[@NightRunner417]

Admiral Benson: "Ahhh... I love soup. At least I think I love soup. Blasted shell! It's either soup or duck. Which one do you shoot?" Lt. Commander Block: "Duck, sir." _DONGGGG_ Lt. Commander Block: "Are you alright, sir?" Admiral Benson: "Of course I'm alright! Why, what have you heard?"

[@benc640]

I love how they kept using that same clip of the missile launching like 6 times in a row.

[@rodx5571]

All those shows did that to save money on props, special effects and cinematography. When Airwolf became "Canadian Airwolf" (season 3 and up, new cast) every single chopper fight and scene was recycled from the American Airwolf. But yeah Battle star Galactica 1978 was one of the worst about it.

[@battlestarmarc]

Missiles launched was used in 1 episode of night gallery.

[@blacktoothfox677]

Saturn 5, stage separation - most likely pre-TLI

[@toddajohnson82]

@@blacktoothfox677 You beat me to it. I had to laugh when I saw that part. I remember this episode when it aired, but was too young to realize what it really was. Besides, one of the characters WAS Apollo, right? LoL

[@LordZontar]

Just like the space battles in the show. When you've seen one, you've seen them all. Literally.

[@peterfan8650]

I love how toggle switches never goes out of fashion.

[@roystonlodge]

I'm tempted to replace all the light switches in my house with 'em.

[@brutalnewt]

I've always thought toggles make sense in space. If you're hit by debris or something, maybe you can rewire a switch. If that debris takes out a touchscreen, I don't know how you'd rewire that.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

You can wire a toggle switch directly to whatever it toggles. You can't do that with a touchscreen.

[@My2CentsYall]

lol you said the same thing! LOL in the olden days you had to keep hitting the same switch for every missiles LOL!

[@pwc7475]

Yep my Gremlin loved them

[@tuxedotservo]

Starbuck: "How can we be accused of violating orders of a man who isn't following orders himself?" Apolla: "... somehow that makes sense to me." I always did appreciate the banter between Apollo and Starbuck.

[@sirferr8902]

It also fits the current situation lol.

[@chrisdixon3003]

That type of logic would really mess with Spock

[@williamatkinson4207]

I really loved the characters and so wished they could have explored and expanded over seasons to come . I saw Richard Hatchs vision , so wished it could have happened .

[@propellix6642]

I prefer "squadron purple and orange request to join the fight"... Col. Tigh: "Which squadrons? We have no squadrons purple and orange.... Apollo and Starbuck..."

[@JW...-oj5iw]

@@propellix6642 ... Excellent episode. Perfect for Farm Film Report.

[@DeaconShadow]

The plots may not have held up and the special effects are dated, but those designs will always be some of the best ships on television.

[@johnbower7452]

@@jamieolberding7731 I still prefer the whole thing; at least the bad guys were the bad guys; and didn't have half the crew of the good guys' ships without making it count.

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@johnbower7452 I strongly agree. Even Bad Guy spaceships can become Hero Spaceships such as the iconic Klingon Bird of Prey from Star Trek, for example. (This awesome Klingon Warship that makes an excellent stealth vessel, as you see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2qTeKuMoNWXjtE The Klingon Bird of Prey also has some pretty formidable firepower and is also incredibly fast and maneuverable for such a small Klingon Warship, as you can see here when Commander Kruge's Klingon Bird of Prey destroys an unarmed Freighter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaTFqaJse9lnntE )

[@zorkmid1083]

@@jamieolberding7731 Imagine what Star Trek lore would've been like if they followed their original idea of the Bird of Prey being Romulan (captured by Klingons). All because Leonard Nimoy thought it would've been better if it was a Klingon ship.

[@zorkmid1083]

@@jamieolberding7731 I kind of prefer the classic baseships too, but only because they look impressive enough to be worth blowing up. 😁

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@zorkmid1083 Not to mention the interior design of the classic Cylon Basestars looks very very very COOL!

[@leokimvideo]

Looking at this as an older adult I am laughing how cheap and cheesy this is, yet back when it was on TV in the late 70's and I was a kid it was incredibly impressive

[@STB-jh7od]

For its time it some best SFX on TV, they hired guy from Star Wars, Dykstra.

[@42lookc]

You are so right!

[@soulrebel2531]

Same here I loved this show when I was about 10

[@jeffcarrier9808]

As someone who grew up living for battle scenes in Star Trek through the 90's and early 00's, I'm blown away by this... i can't believe this was on TV in the 70's.....

[@einkanal7149]

As cheap as Star Wars Episode IV or Silent Running. All SFX made byJohn Dykstra.

[@99goat99]

I remember this vividly - I watched it "live" during its original broadcast. I was 9 years old. It was one of the more badass moments in all of Sci-Fi, and stands up even to this day.

[@phillipmeeks2391]

So did I.

[@greggg4011]

At age 7 I was incapable of appreciating the moment. As an adult watching the show, the whole 2 episodes was about gambling, impossible odds, the responsibility of protecting civilians, disobeying your boss when you know you are right, and the overwhelming firepower of those Basestars becoming useless when you come in at the right angle (see the final episode of the series).

[@flagg85]

More badass than star wars?

[@Grandpaneedsblood]

I saw it in theaters while getting head while eating popcorn 🍿 it was in 3d HD on a Samsung HD TV movie TV theaters in the bowells of New York

[@Grandpaneedsblood]

Would anyone like my wife's cunt it's on sale for 2.99

[@lighthouse44]

Even with constant recycled battle footage throughout the series, it never detracted from the awesomeness of this show.

[@Culdcepter]

RIP Apollo. Just got done binging TRS Galactica, miss these shows. Thank you.

[@karlsmith2570]

At One point In time, Richard Hatch had actually tried to make his own adaptation of Battlestar Galactica where Apollo had assumed command of the Galactica from Adama There's some promo footage of this on KZbin

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@karlsmith2570 Yeah, I heard stuff like that, but it's kind of pointless when you don't have the rights to the show.

[@ericscottstevens]

Instead you got Tom Zarek, the terrorist rouge with perfect hair.

[@Lennis01]

Hatch's show might not have been made, but his efforts got a lot of attention. That attention ultimately led to the 2003 production.

[@darthkek1953]

The tactical genius required to ready your one weapon and raise your one shield, yet he makes it sound like a master plan.

[@able34bravo37]

That's what always kills me about so much scifi. "Enemy ships are firing!" "Raise shields! Prepare to return fire!" "Oh, no shit, Captain?"

[@RennieAsh]

@@able34bravo37 Yes but sometimes they don't want that.

[@JoeBlow-fp5ng]

But he was waving around the walking stick for emphasis...so there's that.

[@JW...-oj5iw]

@@JoeBlow-fp5ng ... Not a walking stick. Actually a riding crop.

[@jamesbutler8821]

​@@JW...-oj5iw Errr I am sure it was a space swagger stick not a riding crop because there are no horses in space

[@richardched6085]

It's been Yahrens since I've seen this battle. Thx for uploading!

[@josephfuselier]

The original series is by far the absolute best! Best story, best picture and special affects, Steve Dykstra was a genius in special affects. Lorne Greene, Richard Hatch, Dirk Benedict, and and the entire cast were brilliant. I always looked eagerly to sit down and watch this show on Saturday night.

[@kenhasibar2624]

Okay. But it didn't have Grace Park. 💔

[@kennethfink7060]

John.

[@floydlooney6837]

SFX budget was way too small though, had to reuse the same ones over and over and over

[@alucard624]

@@floydlooney6837 The majority of the budget went to the 3 part pilot. That's why you had so many homage/ripoff stories from movies early on in the show to save money.

[@patrickwilson1459]

John Dykstra also worked on the show.

[@seproh0]

My favorite part was how they used the exact same missile launch clip 6 times in a row in less than 20 seconds

[@raven4k998]

shields to max power!!!🤣

[@ronshine7902]

That was one of the things I never understood about Galactica's cancellation. They said that it cost a million dollars an episode to make but how is that possible? They reused the same battle scenes and sfx every episode.

[@northerntruthseeker]

@@raven4k998 max power light flashing on console?

[@ryanlong6758]

Irony is that the 2003 series reused tf out of the vipers landing scene. Some things never change

[@suzakule]

And they all look like the same ICBM!

[@RAZORBLACKRX]

Anyone else still prefer the classic vipers over the reboot?

[@darthsidious8982]

I do,in the original bsg 10 cylons were zapped before a viper was even touched, in 2003 bsg the vipers got hammered

[@WintersWar]

I gave the reboot a fair chance, I just don't get it. overacting.

[@muznick]

The bigger difference is with the Cylon Raiders: The reboot versions are meh at best. The originals were AWESOME.

[@RAZORBLACKRX]

@@muznick I can understand the reboot raiders as AI drones and even the vipers firing projectiles and their maneuverability in zero gravity as more realistic but It's a hell lot more fun when they swoop and dive like WW2 planes firing lasers instead of bouncing around like a rubber ball. Plus when they go turbo thrust, they really go friggin turbo thrust!

[@echofourmike85]

Gone are the days of lost tribes still looking like Egyptians and Romans.

[@Shawn_M]

Viper is still one of the most beautiful ships in all of sci-fi

[@aaronleverton4221]

I remember when we ran around the playground calling them Starhounds.

[@Argumemnon]

Technically they're boats, not ships! ;)

[@karlsmith2570]

@Shawn M: fun fact for you If you've ever watched "Buck Rogers In The 24th Century", the fighters in that series were the original design for the Colonial Vipers that, along with other props from Battlestar Galactica, had been repurposed for that series

[@johntabler349]

The best space fighters hands down, just a little better than the xwings way better than most others

[@robwalsh9843]

Designed by Ralph McQuarrie who also designed the X Wing.

[@varsityreviews707]

By far one of the most fun episodes next to the final one of the series. Getting to see two Battlestars working together, as well as seeing one go against Basestars is always exhilarating, and the exciting dog fights and land battle are just icing on the cake.

[@raven4k998]

those vipers look like they are farting when the step on it🤣

[@jamesa.7604]

The "Living Legend " episode of original Battlestar Galactica was my favorite. As a kid, I built viper and Battlestar models and imagined Commander Cain and Pegasus survived and reformed Silver Spar Squadron.

[@roberttbrockway]

If there had been a second season Cain and Pegasus were supposed to return.

[@tomp8094]

My favorite as well.

[@Zurround]

Imagine how cool a spinoff tv series called BATTLESTAR: PEGASUS could have been?

[@roberttbrockway]

@@Zurround exactly. It would have had a very different tone to BATTLESTAR: GALACTICA. No civilian fleet to protect, just round the clock attacks against Cylons. Plenty of good stories they could have told.

[@Zurround]

@@roberttbrockway It could have even been done as a series of BOOKS as some books were written that continued the regular series. If a 2nd remake of BSG is filmed I want the series to continue for a while AFTER finding Earth but NOT be the bullshit that the 1980 show was. My idea is that they make contact with the world's leaders in a big budget large scale adventure where its a little like V (except the "aliens" really are biologically humans and really are the good guys) where the crew of the Galactica work together with the militaries of the world to build more vipers and other weapons and train Earth's soldiers and astronauts to fly them to prepare for the arrival of the Cylons and at some point they do come and its a little like Independence Day with the world's military forces combined with the higher level of technology the Galactica helped them develop working together with what remains of the colonial fleet to defend Earth.

[@paulnash9851]

God I miss this. That feeling as a kid of waiting till 6:00pm every friday. There were 3 shows when I was a kid that my family knew, for that period the tv was MINE, and Battlestar Galactica was one of them. Bless you mum + Dad for always giving that time to me. Wether I’d done my homework or not...

[@Playingwith3D]

ha ha we must have grown up pretty similarly. Out of curiosity what were your other two shows?

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

"One can always goad a commander who carries a riding crop and wears an ascot into a suicidal charge" - Martha Washington

[@riproar11]

Two baseships arrive. Commander Kane - "It's coming right at us!" He dives through a large glass window.

[@matthewgumabon7498]

I like how they used the detail of having the ship’s bridge be dimly lit with red light (just like a real submarine at night does to help keep the crew’s eyes adjusted to the dark)…. But the two space fighter pilots have bright yellow lights shining on the inside of their helmets into their faces. They would absolutely be blinded by those. I think really space pilots would need a heavily polarized visor screen to protect their eyes from bright starlight or nearby explosions.

[@fakshen1973]

The helmet lights make it easier for the camera to pick up the faces of the actors. It's a pretty practical way to fix that issue. IRL it would blind the pilots in the dark of space.

[@anidiot2284]

The light of the sun is definitely a big concern, if you played a game like Elite Dangerous then you’d know that one major issue you can deal with is being to close to a nearby star or being completely blinded by it, explosions will also be a major issue too

[@104thironmike4]

Even Top Gun 2 Maverick does it, when he flies the Darkstar. They admitted it would be bogus IRL, but unless you want to see a mirror instead of an actor with voice over, this is the way.

[@artembentsionov]

Most science fiction shows and movies do that so the audience can see the actors’ faces. Even supposedly realistic ones

[@Daehawk]

To 9 year old me this was great science fiction . Space battles supreme. Couldn't wait until the weekend to see what they were up to next. Loved it all so much. Fun times were had all around. Then we'd talk about what we'd watched over the weekend back in school on Monday with friends. Living day to day. Loved those years. They are precious to me now that Im alone at 54 years old.

[@104thironmike4]

You're not alone. Your friends are out there. Go find them, brother. My childhood was similar. I cherish this show. Sending love from somewhere across the world.

[@domm.5936]

I made replica Vipers out of Lego when I was about 8yo 😁 Loved this show

[@DeaconShadow]

Built a Battlestar as well. It was almost two feet long. It would be a lot cooler now with all the shapes available.

[@domm.5936]

@@DeaconShadow that's impressive

[@kgatch113a]

Me too! Then Atari used the Viper design and I copied theirs in blue and yellow.

[@richardeller9246]

One of the best Galactica episodes.

[@battlestarmarc]

Best sci fi series that should have been a super franchise. Commander Cain was great. Battlestar Pegasus could have been a spin off series.

[@superdave8248]

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if that wasn't a plan all those years ago. If you thought Galactica had it bad, just consider a battlestar with nothing but a skeleton crew trying to survive on its own. And yeah, I could see the Pegasus returning to the home worlds to try to shanghi a new crew. And then to do a second reunion show. There was so much potential there. You just know that the Colonials had special projects. Deep space exploration, Cylon Space penetrations, and new ship designs. You could base a whole series on a crew trying to salvage from what the cylons didn't know about and left alone.

[@glenarnold5058]

Remember Doctor Zee and Galactica 1980?

[@battlestarmarc]

@@glenarnold5058 Galactica 1980 was not good.

[@guitarfan01]

Having grown up with Hot Shots! and Airplane!, I absolutely can not take Lloyd Bridges as Commander Cain seriously. I had the giggles this entire time. Great scene though, and the tribute in the remake series is great as well.

[@rodx5571]

Ok that was wrong. You ruined a whole show for me. Now i am doing it.

[@cneterer]

I see your point. I can see it very well, and you ruined this moment for me. LOL But Lloyd was once considered a good dramatic actor, and he was chosen for "Airplane!" for the same reason as Peter Graves. Known drama actors who might spoof their reputations. Graves refused to do the movie until being told it was intended to be a goofball comedy.

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@cneterer It would have been much better if they had cast Peter Graves's brother, James Arness in the role. The only people who ever took Arness seriously spoke German. Mein Gott, he iz zo beeg, ve can't miss. :)

[@joelellis7035]

@@cneterer In fact, most of the actors in Airplane were chosen for their ability to do serious roles. The directors wanted the actors to deliver the lines straight and without comedic embellishment. It was to add to the absurdity that all of these characters were acting serious amidst the lunacy. Lloyd Bridges, Robert Stack, Peter Graves, Leslie Nielson all with histories of dramatic roles.

[@malbecks316]

He absolutely looks like he is on the brink of saying something silly in a very dead-pan way, the entire time.

[@SnowyNightFlyer]

Did he say “Air-to-air missiles?” Gotta love old BSG. It was always good fun.

[@alanmartin6436]

the science on this show was not so good, but they never said air to air

[@zorkmid1083]

Not to mention "electronic defense shields", whatever those are.

[@Mikey300]

@@zorkmid1083 If BSG had mentioned "deflector shields", Paramount and Gene Roddenberry would have sued Universal and Glenn Larson into the middle of the nearest parallel universe (while Fox was suing Universal for copying Star Wars).

[@zorkmid1083]

@@Mikey300 My point is that BSG doesn't mention shields of any kind, except for the doors covering the bridge's window. Besides, Star Wars mentioned a cloaking device without earning the wrath of Star Trek.

[@dvmusicworks374]

@@alanmartin6436, at :38 seconds Cain says “Air to air missiles.”

[@DarthWaffle.]

Even though they used the same 8 battle scenes all the time, I loved this.

[@karlsmith2570]

"Boomer, you're in Command, Starbuck and I are going to checkout Our rear flank" "How Far To Our Rear" "Don't Ask Too Many Questions" "That's What I Thought" Gotta Love that Boomer, Starbuck and Apollo All have the same mindset

[@scottys1423]

I recall an episode where he had to take command and go into battle, showing his tactical skill. I forget why Adama wasn't there. But very cool they had at least one episode where we got to see his skills, as opposed to just being a sidekick.

[@ricardog2165]

"Dammit guys! I'm tired of covering up for you two! Sheba and Cassiopeia are going to be really pissed!"

[@karlsmith2570]

@@ricardog2165 At this point, Sheba and Apollo hadn't gotten together yet, in fact, they'd literally just met in part 1 of this episode of Battlestar Galactica

[@midnighttornado22]

I need a videogame of this version, complete with reusable sequences. I can watch Viper turbo boost fly-bys and pew-pew scenes all day.

[@SRS_-wu3gx]

There was a video game in the early 2000s

[@seawind930]

There was a playstation 2 fighter game that was based on this era and it was pretty good. It was difficult as hell but it was fun and had all the classic designs.

[@SRS_-wu3gx]

@@seawind930 I think it was also on Xbox. I wish I had the game. So much better than the new battlestar galactica.

[@vinmangob8555]

still love this show to this day.

[@labw7253]

Rented this on VHS as a kid. It was released as a movie in the UK as Mission Galactica : The Cylon Attack. Watched it many times. Great stuff.

[@richardched6085]

According to some fan tech site the Missiles here are Solonite Rockets and have a yield of 300 Megatons per missile (Which is more than sufficient to destroy a Battlestar or Basestar with a single direct hit Shields or no shields). They are non Nuclear despite the high yield. Galactica didn't have any Solonite Rockets during the Armistice (Maybe they had a supply shortage after the disastrous Battle of Molecay 2 years prior). Thus when the Galactica encountered the Basestar in "The Hand of God" it relied on it's Lasers to defeat the Basestar (Which also seemed to lack Missiles). Despite this the Lasers had the same special effects shot as the Missiles.

[@Eddie42023]

NOPE! It's stock footage of the Apollo CSM separation from the SIV-B third stage of a Saturn V rocket. I wondered about that from the time I saw it on the show myself. Then I watched some Apollo missions and saw what they actually were.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

It is possible the Galactica never had missiles to begin with. There are often variations, even with the same model.

[@scottbrakefield2288]

They used the footage from the 2nd or 3rd episode with the land based laser and the clones for the missile battle and the BS destruction. If only they had a better budget

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@scottbrakefield2288 They shot like a dozen or so combat scenes and replayed each one of them 32 times in each episode.

[@reedallen4613]

@@schwarzerritter5724 actually the Galactica DID have missiles. When the Galactica took on the Cylon Baseship in the final episode of Original Series you can see Omega (I believe his OFFICIAL title/rank was Flight Sergeant) activating/using the SAME type of toggles/switches Tolen used on the Pegasus when she fired her missiles. And even though I honestly don't remember Adama ordering missiles to be fired, the ONLY times you saw that wide reddish streak was AFTER missiles HAD been launched/fired. The REST of the time it was simply regular Lasers or Mega-Lasers.

[@azurerainbow4637]

It wasn't easy for Apollo & Starbuck to tell Commander Cain's daughter, who got sent to the Galactica with the wounded and non-essential personnel to the fleet after she got wounded by the Cylons, that the Pegasus is gone after she destroyed 2 Cylon Base Stars while trying to get to the one under Baltar's command. Balltar must've gone furious after he heard the 2 Base Stars were destroyed but didn't get to know where the Pegasus went afterwards.

[@jessesanchez9187]

Baltar ordered the two Base Stars to slow the Pegasus down. So he actually witnessed their destruction. Baltar and Lucifer survived. Pegasus likely damaged Baltar's Base Star, but couldn't finish it off with all those fighters returning/probably damaged from getting caught in the explosions of the Base Stars. Baltar would likely know what vector the Pegasus was heading, but too damaged to pursue.

[@norm2096]

Of course, it was never shown destroyed. I liked Hatch's books where it survived.

[@azurerainbow4637]

@@jessesanchez9187 Baltar was in command of 1 Cylon Base Star, not all 3. Baltar chickened out because his Cylon fighters weren't able to return in time to help him stop the Pegasus from reaching his base star and to destroy it with him aboard it.

[@jessesanchez9187]

@@azurerainbow4637 Lucifer said the other Base Star Commanders wouldn't be happy about intercepting the Pegasus. Baltar replied "That wasn't a request. It was an order."

[@williamcole2778]

Doubtful. Baltar probably retreated from scanner range so the Pegasus wouldn't track him. Otherwise the Galactica would have gotten that info from him when he surrendered to the fleet.

[@MrFerparedes]

"Surely you don't intend on going up against two basestars!" "I fully intend to. And don't call me Shirley"

[@timothydonlan9112]

They editing out the part where Cain says "I picked a bad day to stop taking chamalla".

[@roguerover30k]

Hmmm.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

One of the best lines ever stated in a science-fiction program. Even their shields won’t help them! What a way to end it!

[@raven4k998]

flick those red switches muahahahahaha

[@artembentsionov]

Except missiles would only get faster the longer they’re in flight in space

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

@@artembentsionovshhhh you’re the good guys always win dude!

[@williamatkinson4207]

Those battle stars were very impressive! The base stars were very evil looking!

[@artembentsionov]

The game Battlestar Galactica Deadlock brings them back

[@DennisMoore664]

Original BSG still hits that sweet spot. So say we all!

[@rfletch62]

Lloyd Bridges of "Sea Hunt", Airplane! and Hot Shots! Great dramatic actor but had the chops for comedy too!

[@WintersWar]

Liked him in the classic film High Noon too

[@williamhaynes4800]

He was also also one of the 1st men considered to play Captain Kirk, before William Shatner.

[@douggraham5082]

So....let me get this straight...the missiles from the Pegasus were NASA's Apollo Command and Service Modules leaving the Saturn V third stage?!?!?!?

[@kenji-san4681]

I noticed that.

[@themetadaemon]

That's right.

[@CrazyIdahoCowboy]

And turn into laser beams after they're out of the silos

[@wcurtin1962]

They got a great deal buying NASA surplus!

[@lucyfyre6126]

hahaha, I was wondering if others noticed that.

[@kempmt1]

0:50-those shuttles appear that they were going to collide with each other 4:32-when those Cylons return, they won’t have a base ship to return to

[@jasonwright285]

OMG, the joysticks. I was 8 years old when this was released, and I loved loved every minute of it.

[@theo6525]

Ultimately, as someone who wasn't alive at the time to have nostalgia for this I'll always prefer the remade series, but man does this have it's charm.

[@scottys1423]

Yeah. I was a teenager when this came out. Its hokey by today's standards but we didn't know any better. And I think their Viper design still looks pretty intimidating.

[@theo6525]

@@scottys1423 There's no doubt that the ship models look amazing, I don't think anyone would have looked to reboot the show without so many iconic designs.

[@power2084]

Its* charms.

[@chesaak]

The old Battlestar Galactica is so much better in my opinion and i loved the story with the Pegasus so much

[@josebrown5961]

Caine was the coolest! I was 12 when this aired. It was nice having the new series but the old one has a special place in my heart. Michelle Forbes was a good Caine just not as good as Lloyd Bridges. That old war daggit!

[@sheilatruax6172]

Lloyd Bridges was one of my favourite people in those days. I got got a kick out of Caine and his Bully Stick. Always reminded me of Patton!

[@DeltaSierra181]

He picked a hell of a time to quit sniffing glue!

[@williampaz2092]

AGREED!

[@josebrown5961]

@@DeltaSierra181 I liked Lloyd doing comedy. Airplane and he was just as funny on Seinfeld.

[@deathstrike]

I have said this before on previous reels of classic Battlestar Galactica, that the Pegasus and indeed the Galactica as well ARE equipped with some kind of hyperspace drive. What I think happened is that during their firing run on Baltar's Basestars, Their navigation and weapons timed a precise hyperspace jump that during the explosions of both ships ,the Pegasus simply jumped perhaps beyond their redline or even had a course that could take them back to a safe harbor close to the original 12 Colonies. Either way, I doubt for one minute Commander Cain is dead. He simply offloaded his daughter and all non essential personnel off the Pegasus in the event the attack and jump did not work. It really needed precise timing, and their shields to hold long enough (meaning no damage taken to their hyperdrive) to do this suicide run. But this is speculation at this point so take it with a grain of salt. But I believe Cain knew he and Adama could not really work together due to entirely different leadership styles and also Adama (the amount of survivors in the fleet was never revealed) had a possible one million people in the fleet to protect. Cain could not handle being a warrior and protector for the fleet so he might have hatched a plan that would give Adama and the fleet a better chance by faking his death, thus giving Cain freedom to potentially retrieve those left alive on Caprica and the colonies and attack the Cylons directly. And if he finally succeded, perhaps either resettling Caprica, or finding a better home for his own group. Either way, it would have saved Cain face, the Galactica and fleet thinks he died a hero, and two battlestars saving what was left of humanity would have a better chance on their own.

[@scottys1423]

You may have missed a later episode where they found the remains of a very very large ship crashed on some uninhabited planet. I have not seen this series since it was on TV and I was in JH school at the time. But IIRC they never actually confirmed it was the Pegasus, but Cain's daughter lost it and had to be restrained when they started looking around the crash site. It was the same, possibly 2 or 3-part, episode where Baltar, for no logical reason, gets in a Cylon fighter and surrenders to Galatica, where he spends the rest of his days in their brig.

[@medson71]

@@scottys1423 It was not the Pegasus but a ship full of people who followed Count Iblis.

[@scottys1423]

@@medson71 I recall pretty vividly when they found the wreckage, one of them commented it was huge, like big enough to be a battlestar. A bit later one of them found something and then they were trying to restrain Sheba, who was freaking out. They never said it but it was clear we were supposed to conclude that was the Pegasus. And it was Baltar who recognized Iblis' voice as being the same as the Cylon imperious leader. I think the writers were alluding to darker forces behind the Cylon empire as opposed to just a race of self-aware robots that rebelled against their human masters.

[@scottys1423]

They didn't talk about hyperspace like in the reboot but it was part of the show cannon that battlestars could exceed light speed. There was one episode when they decided to leave a bunch of vipers to guard the fleet while the Galactica went on a mission and jumped to light speed. Certainly Cain could have just kicked it in high gear and sped away. There was another episode where they modified Starbucks viper for extra speed (at the cost of being unarmed). It launched and went past light speed.

[@deathstrike]

@@scottys1423 They had to restrain Sheba because they were referred to as Satyrs. There was a commentary on it and the problem was the "goatlike" creatures weren't realistic enough, and the cast just laughed. So they cut the scene to where Apollo simply restrained her and told her not to look. It's not the Pegasus and as one commenter said it, "They were followers of Iblis, or as Apollo recognized him as "Diabolis". He was a former Celestial, the ones in the crystal ship that are extremely advanced, but were once like the Colonials, meaning once they were human. But were incredibly evolved and they revived Apollo and gave Starbuck, Sheba, and Apollo the coordinates of Earth.

[@theetiologist9539]

you know....this is surprisingly good for how old it is. And yes, I've seen the new version.

[@slimpickins1469]

look likes mr bridges picked the wrong day for smoking 😂

[@LordZontar]

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop huffing Tyllium fumes."

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

It's sad that this was the last time we saw Commander Cain and the Pegasus and the last time either was mentioned was in the last episode of the show when the Galactica went up against a single Cylon BaseStar in what Commander Adama called a 'Toe to Toe SlugMatch' and they used the same footage in that episode from this one where the Pegasus went up against to Base Ships.

[@GrnXnham]

I liked how they left it totally open to bring back the Pegasus at a later date. There was never any verification as to what happened to the Pegasus. Of course, with the cancellation of the show, we can only dream of the triumphant return of the Pegasus in season 2!

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Yeah I figured that was something they could keep in their back pocket if they ever wanted to utilise it. Officially the Pegasus' fate remains unclear to this day, it could have been destroyed, it could have escaped though clever manuevering, it may have staggered out of that engagement barely alive to either flee to lick their wounds or be finished off by Baltar, we simply don't know.

[@kmabru]

I remember reading on the BSG wiki site that there were plans to bring back the Pegasus in season 2 with the crew replaced by cylon duplicates. Not sure if that article is still available. Interesting that there were plans for "human" cylons in the original show. They did have a "human" model in the 1980 series (Halloween episode).

[@scockery]

@@kmabru While likely far better than Galactica 1980, a proper season 2 still would've been...disappointing in some ways, going by the proposed stories I read. As you mention, The Pegasus with a cylon human crew....only for the Pegasus get destroyed for good in the end. Sheba getting killed off (Apollo can't catch a break!), IIRC just because the cast was getting too big. Athena's actress replaced after her character gets severely burned and has reconstructive surgery.

[@johntabler349]

Pegasus returned triumphantly in many a play room and back yard at least we have those memories

[@1COMIXMAN]

I love this version of a battlestar better.

[@MrAndroidData]

im so going to watch this all again, miss you Richard Hatch

[@robertofulton]

You know it’s gonna be an Interesting day when Dahar master, Kor son of Rynar is in charge of three Cylon baseships

[@uchihaitachi181]

Holy fuck…I did not make that connection until this comment. Admittedly I am rather young and wouldn’t have immediately drawn the connection since my first exposure to Kor was in DS9 so he had the full Klingon Makeup

[@themasterrogerdelgado]

Me whenever I see Lloyd Bridges - "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..."

[@glickmpb]

One of the best episodes of BSG!

[@joelbilly1355]

Admiral Cain picked a hell of a day to quit drinking

[@LionlordEbonfire]

Got to love the ‘78 Battlestar tossing the attack of the stock footage in the middle of the scene. And the writers forgetting they are going to show the scanner so the pilots don’t have to look.((Of course, I recall that they were always doing re-writes in ‘78)

[@sandal_thong8631]

I guess the yellow beams were supposed to be missiles.

[@henrybemis8913]

I was a little boy in 1978 watching this on TV....now I am in my 50s and have heath problems.....take me back..

[@mrbadger6043]

"I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue"

[@The_Ninedalorian]

"Can you see the Pegasus?" "No there's too much smoke and debris" "Too much smoke? but we're in Space!" "THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW"

[@firebird6522]

Love it!

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

Battlestar's are the toughest ships in sci-fi. The beatings we've seen these ships take over several series/decades would give other SF ships nightmares. The Pegasus went out the way she lived here and in the reboot...dealing death to Cylons! I still remember Galactica's final jump in the reboot as well...broke her back and broke my heart - "she was a good ship"

[@dmacbass]

They're so badass. Reboot Pegasus is my favorite sci-fi warship.

[@stephenfarthing3819]

The Battlestars are fighting battlecarriers - but with a considerable array of missiles so these are very much like ballistic missile submarines in their third role. The Japanese had a concept ship that was half Yamamoto battleship and aircraft carrier.. Not too sure if any saw service in the last year of WW2. But it was a concept under consideration.

[@Q45t]

I still believe to this day that if someone in Hollywood had the balls to make this movie it would dominate.

[@voxdraconia4035]

Or remake the series for TV ... just without that...ugh....meandering super boring clone cylon plot ... gods, hated that, ruined the show...

[@joexiden5798]

Have you seen the things Hollywood makes these days? The movie would be torture to watch.

[@roguerover30k]

@@voxdraconia4035 I refuse to accept that re-imagined series are even being Canon. Not even the 1980 series either.

[@dna9838]

I just really want the Pegasus captain to ask a member of the bridge crew “Johnny, what can you make of this?”

[@stratos477]

I remember watching this as a kid for the first time. As soon as the episode ended, & for the rest of my childhood, I would always be wondering is the Pegasus made it out of there in one piece.

[@captain61games49]

Did it or did that show end to soon to find out?

[@paulcolburn3855]

It crashed on a planet. You see its remains in a much later episode. Sheba (Kane's daughter) was with Apollo and Starbuck when they saw the remains and Apollo said to Sheba "Don't come over here." Starbuck came over, saw the bridge, and said to Apollo, "Wait Apollo.... maybe she should?" Like let her see with her own eyes what happened to her father's ship. Sheba was infatuated with some alien "God" that the fleet intercepted and she became one of his followers. But that "God" did not want the pilots to see the remains of the Pegasus. It appears that he was not a "God" at all but Satan in space. Starbuck tried to kill him with his hand pulsar but Sheba stopped following him.

[@jasonthewatchmansson8873]

@@paulcolburn3855 That was a fan rumor, but it was eventually disproven. The script from War Of the Gods describes it as an alien ship. Starbuck and Apollo look inside and see a dead alien with hooves, a demon or some sort of demon-like creature. It was not the Pegasus.

[@paulcolburn3855]

@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 That is interesting. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter. BSG 1978 went away after one season and we got Mork & Mindy instead because that was much cheaper for ABC. So we could never really find out about the Pegasus. They never mentioned it in that horror series called "Galactica 80"

[@williamcole2778]

Think that's wrong despite that episode's insinuations of that burnt ship being as bigas a Battlestar. In the hand of God episode, Sheba said her father took on 2 basestars and Tigh replied that the Pegasus was never heard from again, nothing about being destroyed on the planet.

[@remus80]

These Cylons were much more menacing and the Galactica crew much more wholesome than the nihilistic reboot.

[@MelioraCogito]

The '60s and '70s were a great time for Canadian actors in TV Sci-fi playing leading roles as starship Captains/Commanders, Chief Engineers and villainous arch-nemeses'. *William Shatner* (Montréal, PQ): _Captain James T. Kirk,_ USS Enterprise, NCC-1701 *James Doohan* (Vancouver, BC): _Cmdr. Montgomery ("Scotty") Scott,_ Chief Engineer, USS Enterprise, NCC-1701 *Lorne Greene* (Ottawa, On): _Commander Adama,_ Protagonist, Battlestar Galactica. *John Colicos* (Toronto, On): _Count Baltar,_ Antagonist & Cylon sympathiser, Battlestar Galactica. The tradition would be upheld in the short-lived 2002 TV Series *Firefly* with Edmontonian _Nathan Fillion_ playing Capt. Malcolm Reynolds.

[@frankpinmtl]

Don't forget: Michael Hogan (Kirkland Lake, Ont) Colonel Saul Tigh (Temporary Commander Galactica), when Adam is shot

[@carloscarlosio]

I would love to have Comander Cane as my Comander in chief, what tales and memories we would have. 💪🙏

[@JLOFlix]

Absolutely love this scene!!

[@drewpooters62]

Wish he had command of the reboot Pegasus, that was a badass Battlestar and THAT Cain would have creamed ALL the basestars!

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Commander Caine was awesome

[@davidmace3310]

Even though I watched this show as a little kid I didn’t remember the Pegasus and Cain. I thought that was something they made up for the new show ( 2005-2010). Love both!

[@Gweinman]

Even as a kid, I never understood why those missiles looked like energy weapons when they missed.

[@Tommykey07]

Yeah, that always bothered me

[@jimmay7736]

Same!

[@rthomas1031]

I think they shot some brand new footage for this scene, like when the Cylon launch bay is right outside Apollos window. I don’t think we ever saw them get this close to the Base Ships before. They recycled a lot of footage to cut costs. That’s why the stock missile launch is used twice, they saved all that expense of building a model rocket and filming it. Nothing detracts from the drama- Kane completely outsmarts Baltar and the Cylons, and he takes out their two ships with basically just the sheer brute force of the Pegasus!

[@darrenkeady6570]

It’s funny how the Pegasus has Electronic Defense Shielding but the Galactica has none.

[@mikekopack6441]

Pegasus might have been a newer ship with some improved systems. Galactica was 500 yarens old after all!

[@richardched6085]

@@mikekopack6441 I think at one time there were hundreds of Battlestars in use and the Colonial sphere of influence far more vast. The Cylons drove Mankind back to their home system over the thousand yahrens of constant total war. The fleet of 5 Battlestars we see in Saga of a Star World is but a tiny fraction of the fleet say... A few hundred yahrens prior.

[@charlesdavis545]

I never understood 2 things about those Battlestars; why no shields and why an open landing bay? The reimagined series at least had the pods retract.

[@charlesdavis545]

@@richardched6085 I read there were only 12; one per colony. The humans never had a quarrel with the Cylons until they interfered with the Cylons trying to subjugate the #Hisaris. After that, the war began. When it was over, only 5 Battlestars were left. #Atlantia #Solaria #Galactica #Pacifica & #Triton.

[@richardched6085]

@@charlesdavis545 there were only 12 Jupiter class Battlestars in the First Cylon War of the reboot series. The Original Series never established that there were only 12 (It just seemed like a logical assumption as we only know of 9 Battlestars).

[@viddiot]

Looks like he picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue! Best moment...waves his stick and says 'Shields!' like it only just occurred to him! brilliant!

[@gravis2000]

The Star fighters from Buck Rodgers were originally supposed to be the Vipers for BSG from what I understand. Even the way the ships launched in Buck Rogers were kind of the same. Some of the interior shots used the same controls as BSG did.

[@dhunter1133]

Both series were produced by Glen Larson. There was a lot of re-use in Buck Rogers, from costumes, to set dressings, to ship models, to even sound effects.

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

Both were beautiful designs. Absolutely iconic and unmistakable - On the same level as X-Wings.

[@KILRRadio2]

And then came Season 2. At least we had Hawk's ship.

[@gravis2000]

@@KILRRadio2 I don't know how that ship would have fared going down the launch tube. Maybe have the wing deploy after it cleared the ship...

[@dennismasel206]

Did anyone else realize that they used the separation and boost of the Saturn V third stage (Apollo lunar missions) as the missiles launching from the Pegasus?

[@keithallver2450]

The Pegasus survives a battle with two Cylon Basestars to only be destroyed later somehow by(Implied) Count Iblis.

[@airdriver]

You know something, Keith? I always thought the same thing.

[@chrisdixon3003]

That gave a lot of people that impression, however, the script says the person they saw in that crashed ship had goat legs, and they did not want Sheba to see it. It was not the Pegasus. See a previous post about Galactica 1980, they were supposed to find the Pegasus but the crew had been replaced by Cylons that looked like the Pegasus crew.

[@Revkor]

@@chrisdixon3003 that would have been cool

[@stephenusaf6315]

That was the impression I always got, because 1) Apollo keeps Sheba away from the crash site; 2) one of them says that whatever crashed there was “as big as a battlestar.”

[@nvrwlb]

Lloyd Bridges as General Patton! Always attack. Never dig in!

[@AlphanPeter]

"The Living Legend was great episodes

[@stormryder4305]

That viper design is so awesome.

[@chrisedmund335]

When this version of BSG was axed, a kid litterily killed himsepf

[@azurerainbow4637]

Baltar was lucky the Cylon Imperious Leader didn't have him executed for not helping 2 Cylon Base Stars against the Pegasus because his fighters couldn't return in time to defend him, and that he was afraid that Commander Cain was going to kill him for selling out to the Cylons. If Commander Cain had the chance to kill Baltar face to face, he would've liked to see Baltar on his knees begging for mercy and that Cain wouldn't give it to him because of his betraying the Colonies.

[@zarander]

Heavy damage on the Basestars..... From what, a single Viper starfighter?! Get outta here.

[@richardched6085]

They destroyed the Missile Launchers aimed at Pegasus possibly causing systematic internal damage. Cain was even surprised that a single Viper could successfully strafe a Baseship as it's Laser Turrets would ordinarily be enough to take em out. However as Starbuck pointed out the 2 Basestars were close enough that they'd inadvertently fire on each other if they attempted to fire on the Vipers. Typically Raiders are used to prevent Viper attacks on Basestars... But they didn't have any Raiders as they were deployed to fight Galactica over Gamoray and were only just returning.

[@richardched6085]

"Two Fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

[@freshdoug]

They have massive plot armor.

[@karlsmith2570]

@@richardched6085 And as Apollo pointed out, The Base Stars couldn't fire on them without risking hitting each other

[@richardched6085]

@@karlsmith2570 oh yeah lol.

[@Michael-jo9jb]

As I'm watching this I can't take it seriously as I'm waiting for the line "picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue"

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Lol

[@Stansman63]

Baltar would likely never have recovered his reputation with Cylons after this..

[@sandal_thong8631]

Hey, they brought him back from being stabbed from the pilot movie.

[@chrisdixon3003]

@@sandal_thong8631 actually he was supposed to be beheaded in the pilot episode but that was changed.

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@chrisdixon3003 I couldn't find the clip of the Centurion drawing a sword to kill Baltar exactly, but I saw one with outtakes where he screams as a sword is put to his throat. Also, one where he's given a base ship and Lucifer.

[@chrisdixon3003]

@@sandal_thong8631 actually after I posted that I found the clip. I wonder who the villain would have been if baltar had been killed

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

@@sandal_thong8631 That scene was in the official Marvel Comic adaptation back in the day as I remember.

[@Phoenixesper1]

Cain: There coming right for us!!! (Runs and jumps through the nearest window)

[@johnfischer1843]

A GOOD STORY AND CAIN'S LEGACY WAS LEAVING THE GORGEOUS SHEBA TO APOLLO. WAY TO GO STUD!!!!!! STARBUCK SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH ATHENA THOUGH. DAMN!!!!!!

[@williampaz2092]

Yes but Maureen Jensen was seriously ill by the middle of the season and had to drop out of filming. So the writers drew Starbuck and Cassiopeia together.

[@johnfischer1843]

HEY WILLIAM, THANKS FOR THE TIP BECAUSE I THOUGHT CASSIE AND STARBUCK WERE MISMATCHED ANYWAYS AND THIS EXPLAINS IT. WHAT HAPPENED TO MAREN ANYWAYS AFTER SHE QUIT ACTING AND LEFT DON HENLEY?@@williampaz2092

[@CT-uv8os]

​@@johnfischer1843She started her own cosmetics line and is doing well for herself despite the health situation. Fyi.

[@Grendelbc]

Dahar Master Kor and Dr. Smith! Sea Hunt! Kudos to anyone who got all 3 references without looking them up.

[@TheUlster417]

One of the best scenes from the series. But I never understood why Caine was so surprised to see Vipers used against base ships? They were pretty darn effective. And don't the Cylons always attack the Galactica with squadrons of fighters? Also, you can clearly see a shot that shows the Pegasus' missiles still firing even after the first base ship explodes. So, if the Pegasus was destroyed in the encounter, it only happened after the second base ship exploded. But I've always assumed Caine survived and just warped away at the last moment.

[@baybarsedturner2]

Re: Vipers against Base Ships: That's why they put the line in that "they can't fire at us without hitting each other" because otherwise the Base Ship's defense lasers should have been able to easily take them out. Why didn't the Base Ships destroy the Vipers from longer range? Because they were distracted by fighting the Pegasus.

[@TheUlster417]

@@baybarsedturner2 Yes, that makes sense. Caine should have realized that and sent a squadron of vipers against the base ships. It also looks like the Base Stars' lasers bounced right off the Pegasus. And when the Pegasus shield is engaged, its actually a blast door. Awesome.

[@Jizzandapuss]

"There's too much smoke and debris"... in the vacuum of space...gotta love 70s tv

[@jasonthewatchmansson8873]

There is atmosphere inside the 2 capital ships.

[@uio890138]

I woulda just used ludicrous speed and just shot between the 2 Cylon baseships in a micron.

[@stephenusaf6315]

Cain never thought of that because the Schwartz wasn’t with him.

[@badas45]

I grew up watching the new Battlestar The old one is quite entertaining

[@michaelvincent5376]

Point blank … then misses. Repeatedly.

[@richardched6085]

The Missiles might be set to detonate once reaching a certain distance (Or striking a ship's hull) thus still inflicting some damage on the Basestar. They're probably unguided and Cain ordered all Missiles to be launched. He knew that at least one would hit.

[@gentblue]

@@richardched6085 Nah, just a poor attempt to increase the tension, damaging a truly epic scene. Sci-Fi learned from this though and you don't see this sort of thing happening without obvious defence or incompetence nowadays.

[@fletchbg]

The problem is they had zero budget to show actual missiles, beyond the stock footage of ballistic missiles launching from silos. To try to depict the "missiles" in flight, the best they could do was the yellow "bolts" flying across the screen that could only overlay the basestars. They couldn't show an actual impact, so they had to wait to show any effect on the basestars at all until they overlaid the giant explosions to show them being totally destroyed. It was literally nothing, nothing, nothing... ok all gone.

[@zorkmid1083]

@@fletchbg Understood about the budget, but they could have just overlaid explosions on top of the initial ones to show multiple hits (and throw in some partial bolts depicting the missiles "hitting"). Well, in the end, it worked.

[@sandal_thong8631]

This should have been the biggest special effect for 5 episodes or so: A battlestar between two base ships firing missiles. It didn't even look like they attacked Cylon missile launchers but just regular lasers.

[@nerva-]

I love how Cylon Basestar flank torpedo launchers look just like the gun batteries of the Galactica...

[@Filanca1]

This is pretty much an alternate Star Wars

[@LionlordEbonfire]

That is what George Lucus thought when he sued and lost. The story of Battlestar was basically Wagon Train in space (westerns were loosing popularity). While both have small forces fighting bigger ones, the reasons make them different. Also space ships and ray guns and robots are all standard tropes of this kind of sci-if (remember Lost In space was before episode 4 and it had all those). The funny part is that after this series had aired, Lucus would give the Rebels big space ships and in the prequels have the heroes fight robots (Droids).

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@LionlordEbonfire Yeah, well Star Wars was new but took from a lot of other things. The horse chase from _Hidden Fortress,_ (where the droids' personalities came from) looks a lot like the speeder bike chase. A couple Canadians sued him, saying he stole the Ewoks (including the name) from them, but they lost in court. The idea that Lucas could sue B.S., saying he "owned space" was ludicrous.

[@LionlordEbonfire]

@@sandal_thong8631 the other root of SW was also Flash Gordon so he knew what he was “steeling”. But really that is okay, writers steal from each other. Star Wars stole from Dune but Dune stole form the Foundation series. As long as well understand the roots of great works it is all good.

[@charlesdavis545]

I remember when this came out, people said that. I didn't see it. They were two completely different stories. The only comparisons were, they both came out in 1977, and #JohnDykstra did all the models and special effects for both, as well as for #BuckRogers.

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@charlesdavis545 1978 for Battlestar Galactica.

[@okiebuzzj]

I had the Revell model of the original Galactica. It wasn't hard to put together as there weren't too many pieces. I later found out that they used pieces of ships and cars from other model kits to design the one for the T.V. show. Supposedly the Battlestars were massive. As big as 3 earth moons set side by side from bow to stern.

[@jedironin380]

Watch Adam Savage's KZbin channel! "Kit Busting" is when the VFX team take parts from existing model kits and use them to build new ships and vehicles. Adam goes over a LOT of details on how he helped build the ships in the original Star Wars trilogy.

[@roguerover30k]

Kit Bashing was king back then.

[@p70581]

I was fortunate enough to be able to build a model kit of the Battlestar Galactica and a model kit of the Cylon Base Star in 1982. I still have them. They aren't going anywhere.😊

[@starsiegeplayer]

I don't think they were the size of celestial bodies. Most estimates I have seen were about 1.4 km long. To put it in perspective, a Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier is slightly larger than 1/3 kilometers long.