PELOTON: BUDGET BIKE SET UP AND COMPARISON TO THE REAL THING plus WHICH SHOULD YOU GO FOR?

[@benvaughan9545]

Hi Steve, really informative videos! Thank you. I think I am going to go the budget route, one question I have is regarding the cadence sensor. The IC300 is advertised as being able to record rpm, so I was wondering what the benefits are of fitting a cadence sensor? Thanks very much and happy new year.

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! TBH, I didn’t know the IC300 had a sensor! That may be simpler than buying one. I’ll pin your comment so it’s at the top. Cheers.

[@mariapersson8243]

I think IC300 pro has a cadence sensor but not the IC300.

[@ach7534]

On both models having an alternative cadence sensor means you can at least see your rpm on Strava etc and look at how it tallys with your HR, if you’re a stats geek like me.

[@stuartmclean3843]

@@SteveJulien hi steve just found your video, im a road racing cyclist and am looking at the jll 400 pro with 20kg flywheel or a similar bodypower sp.ic20 bike which is almost identical, im fed up of putying my expensive toad frame onto the turbo trainer during winter and potentially damaging it, how do u think i would find one of the above bikes eith 20kg flywheel, would i find it has enough resistance in your opinion? I would also be using it a little differently than most people as i would be putting my power meter pedals onto it so i have more data to hand

[@Ravp90]

I'm 37 seconds in and I already know I'm going to watch the whole video. What a nice dude.

[@Ravp90]

Here I am 14 minutes later, what a thoughtful and all-encompassing video. I consider this advice to be incredibly valuable and helpful. I think I'm going to the budget setup for now as I'm looking for a spin-class type experience that I would usually get in the gym but they're all closed due to lockdown.

[@xontheweb2376]

You might be the man who saved me 1500 quid, so you're now officially a friend of the family!! Thanks for good advice. Keep it going!

[@SteveJulien]

If you enjoy my videos, please ‘LIKE’ and ‘SUBSCRIBE’, it’s free and really helps! To but you JLL IC300 proon Amazon and help support the channel: amzn.to/2Q8bllQ To buy the original Peloton bike on Amazon and help support the channel: 🇺🇸 amzn.to/3EGTkS9 🇬🇧 amzn.to/3Gtm8yR

[@beezergutler5488]

Thank you so much for the video. I’ve just lost 2 and a half stone by going pescatarian, but I’m now looking to spin to help me lose even more. Just ordered the 300 pro for £300, not sure if I’ll bother with the sensor or peloton subscription to begin with.

[@ach7534]

The budget version is spot on - bike from eBay, garmin sensor and Peloton App - bosh. Thank you Steve.

[@SteveJulien]

Excellent!

[@Moomchild9]

Struggled to settle on a bike and your video helped me make up my mind. It was very helpful, liked the way tou explained every step and things you need. I managed to get the ic 300 pro from someone who had them but never used for £250.

[@SteveJulien]

Really glad it helped and great price on the bike!

[@_stoatchaser]

Put your hand between your legs and twist your knob. School boy sniggers at the back. That aside top video. Setting up a similar system in my garage. Many thanks for the advice

[@oatcam9205]

Thank you. Just got a JLL IC300pro locally, hardly used and was a bargain! Cadence sensor on order. Will sign up to the peleton app this wkend. Thanks for all the tips and advice on ur vids.

[@SteveJulien]

Excellent!

[@almaghrabee]

Ive just bought the IC300 Pro at its current price of £399. Getting delivered today.

[@craigreaper7295]

Juvenile, I know, but the knob stuff had me chuckling!

[@spparklev]

As an American living in Britain, I loved your knob comment!

[@wonderbeauty10]

what are the two meanings?

[@Zenonaut]

"You're both going to get food poisoning on day 2" ...😂. Brilliant. Thanks for the vid. I'm looking to shop my first bike and was exploring options, thank you for making this video.

[@SteveJulien]

😂

[@JonSpittle]

2 years later and this video is still very informative, not just got the JLL 300 Pro, but because you break it down so well and explain things so well for us that don’t understand! The 300 Pro is in my top 5 bikes I’m currently looking at, it’s at the top end of my budget if I’m honest but for what it offers I think it’s worth it. I’m torn between the other bike you’ve recently recommended on another video of yours, the Labgrey bike is £40 cheaper if purchased from Amazon; I know it might not seem much but would you pay the extra £40 Steve? Appreciate the videos, I’ve subscribed!

[@britany1456]

@JonSpittle which one did you go for in the end - Labgrey or 300 Pro? Stuck between them both atm.

[@anthonymackintosh271]

Incredible video. I just got a JLL i300pro today and just brought the additional items (cadence sensor and tablet holder) I am not to fussed about peloton tbh as I can’t run due to injury so this will suffice in the interim. Thank you again for a detailed review and I can’t wait until tomorrow when Amazon prime deliver the bits. Stay safe and be happy. Kind regards Tony 👌

[@SteveJulien]

You’ll love it!

[@golusoga]

Great video, Steve - inspired me to get the same set up. A couple of observations: 1. the IC300 pro (which is what you had) is now £449 on Amazon (boo!). 2. the cadence sensor that comes with the bike is pretty accurate and pretty much reads the same as the Wahoo sensor. 3. the bike computer also offers a distance reading (rpms x flywheel circumference I suppose) which is brilliant for the company charity competition!

[@SteveJulien]

Excellent! You’re right, I missed that the bike has a cadence sensor built in 😬! Shame about the price increase but I still think it’s well priced for the spec. Enjoy the rides!

[@paulonelife]

Hi Steve. Thanks for the advice and content. I ended up buying the Schwinn IC7 Indoor Cycle. Think good value for just over £500.

[@lanataliamaria]

Have just gone for this set up with the JLL elite 400 and a cheap tablet holder from amazon. Quality is superb

[@SteveJulien]

Fantastic!

[@almaghrabee]

Delivered and set up. The IC300 feels solid as per review. The display as mentioned is the most dissapointing. Great review helped me to purchase. I just need to test it with a proper session now.

[@000MUSASHI]

Any feedback on the ride?

[@almaghrabee]

@@000MUSASHI I got the ic300 PRO. Its a very good ride no noise and its solid (so far) . I added a drink holder and mobile phone holder to the handle bars. If anything I think JLL could improve the bike by increasing the length for the seat and handlebar adjustments and a more modern display monitor.

[@Inspiringeverydaymum]

Thank you for talking about how quiet it is as that for me is very important... I need kids do sleep next do me while I’m riding this bike, so quite important that it’s quiet...

[@zimkitch]

Never had an interest in the subject (too old,busy,tired....lazy) but enjoyed the video nonetheless fella. Very informative for anyone into that scene. Keep up the great work.

[@js3k661]

Great video, I didn’t even skip through

[@SteveJulien]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lumiaelectrical2084]

Thanks for the video. Took your advice about bike. Impressed with it, price has gone up to over 400 though.

[@SteveJulien]

Nice one! Shame they keep putting the price up though.

[@TheBeaver06]

Thanks so so much you answered all my questions! I’ve just bought a budget bike and am very happy with it and the Peleton app just going to buy a sensor now . Xb🇬🇧

[@SteveJulien]

Great. A few people have said that the IC300 comes with a built in sensor. (I didn’t know/try it)

[@josephmac1137]

A knob is a handle that turns like a door knob in the US.

[@Gloria-gc4jc]

I super enjoyed this video, I have a bit of a bad back and for the past 4 years have put on quite a bit of weight. I used to do spinning at least 3 times per week when my gym was offering evening classes. I will be getting the ic300pro. Thank you for your honest review!

[@SteveJulien]

Wonderful! Good luck with it all and i'm sure you'll get great results. There's stacks of low intenisity workouts off the bike I think you will like too.

[@alisontrimmer1913]

Thank you so much for this brilliant video! I’ve had an IC300 pro for a year and use it all the time, but was thinking I need to upgrade to use the Peloton app….I’ve now (90%) changed my mind! Im still really tempted by the full Peloton setup but not sure I can justify the huge cost 🤔🤔

[@NigelHarperPhoto]

Great informative Vid Steve! Peloton is very expensive and have gone with a JLL bike too and with Wahoo sensors added! Cheers

[@themadhiker]

I just ordered the IC300 and will look forward to building my DIY Peloton set up! Great video, thanks!

[@marcelgonzalez1376]

Hi Keith. How much did you pay for your bike?

[@themadhiker]

@@marcelgonzalez1376 in the UK it's currently £389.99 direct from JLL so currently a little higher than the price stated in the video.

[@nattydownes]

I've ordered the ic400 elite, purely because the ic300 was out of stock. Im hoping it'll arrive on Tuesday. When I ordered it last Tuesday it was £429.99, they've now gone up to £449.99 since lockdown2 was announced.

[@returnofthemac1891]

You are very gifted at this sort of thing.... Keep it up and thank you!

[@SteveJulien]

Thank you! Will do!

[@robertpaterson7311]

Hi, interesting to watch you budget version videos. This one you suggest the JLL IC300 Pro which has several negative reviews on KZbin due to the noise it can make after a few months. I have also seen you do a similar review with other the LABGREY L1 Exercise Bike. Have you got an overall best bike to buy for the budget version ? Many thanks for any thoughts.

[@michaelparke1459]

Thanks Steve, the video makes a lot of sense , I liked the 5 times more expensive but twice as good idea 👍

[@robedwards6926]

I feel like if you own the Peloton bike the subscription should be $12.99. Not the other way around 🤦‍♂️

[@averroesdesign]

i bought my ic300 pro with a mat for £220 from JLL just before the lock down. Their prices have doubled however they are good bikes

[@paulcoyle6121]

You can also connect the cadence sensor directly to the app and see it within the peloton app

[@JonSpittle]

This is very useful, I was just about to ask this question as I’m about to purchase this bike along with Peloton Digital subscription and I wasn’t sure if it was possible to link the sensor directly in to the app -thank you!

[@lauramushrush2529]

I second your recommendation on the JLL 300. It is a good bike for the money. Thanks for the advice on tracking cadence to Peloton! This is such a great alternative to dropping ££$$.

[@sdma1178]

I went for the JLL IC 400 Pro, what a fantastic bike, bit more than the IC300 but I had the money spare so went for it. First spin the other day, again today when I had a spare 30 minutes😀😀

[@SteveJulien]

Glad you like it! Great choice and worth the extra I think.

[@aamaramin2962]

@@SteveJulien what are the differences between the 300 pro and 400 apart from weight limit?

[@SteveJulien]

@@aamaramin2962 Ive not used the 400 but there's a comparison on the JLL website. all the best.

[@mainplaya]

Thanks! What a great review. Really informative I have been looking for just this comparison as i was struggling to pick which option I needed. I nearly died when you said “ put your hand between your legs and twist your knob” 😂🤣 can’t make this stuff up

[@SteveJulien]

😂

[@mainplaya]

Really great content on your channel. Just subscribed. Very informative, humorous and great presentation style. 🙌🏿

[@robbbo167]

Hi Steve, really nice video!!.. have you made a mistake? I believe the IC300 is chain driven and you are actually referring to the IC300 Pro as in your picture at 3.37 in the vid. I have looked on amazon and the IC300 is now £339 but in the description it describes it as being chain driven with an 18kg flywheel... Can you use the wahoo sensor with any apps free or subscription? I am looking to try to set up with virtual riding any ideas or information will be greatly received.

[@SteveJulien]

Hi, it’s the IC300 pro. Link in description but it has gone up quite a bit!

[@kjbelcheruk1]

Excellent review just about to sort which JLL model to get, may even do a youtube video for the over 60;s, so watch out

[@SteveJulien]

I’ll look forward to it! Good luck with it all, you’ll love it. I’m really enjoying the yoga as well (via the Amazon TV app)

[@michaelcummings4832]

Cheers for this. Just looking to dip in to the spin bike world. Really helpful Interested to know why the 300 is better than the 200...

[@britneyobregon8771]

Great video! I like your voice too! You should be an audible reader! I am an American and I think of a doorknob when I hear the word knob. Lol

[@luisa.1429]

Steve! This is amazing! I'm looking at the JLL website and with the end of the year sales, they are even cheaper! Now, I have a question - you mentioned the 250 might not be worth the savings. Why would you think so? Is it because of the 7kg Flywheel? I can't decide whether to go for the 250, the 300 or the 350. The 350 is the cheaper option after discounts, but is also a 7kg flywheel! What would you recommend?

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Try Amazon as well. The IC300 pro would still be my first choice. Have fun choosing!

[@beeklebeauty]

Purchased the JLL bike last night, arriving Tuesday! Very exciting. Does the weight rack that goes on the back of the peloton fit on the JLL by any chance? Great video

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! From memory, I don’t think it does fit but not 💯. Enjoy the bike!

[@tedfaun2159]

Great video Steve. Would really appreciate your thoughts on the new JLL IC350 PRO in terms of spec on paper. There doesn't seem to be much difference between it and other recent versions apart from the flywheel. The IC350 PRO is a lot lighter - "7kg/15lbs Two Way Flywheel". A lot less than both the IC300 PRO and the IC400 ELITE at 20kg...both of which are cheaper! Do you think that makes it a model to avoid? Seems like a more expensive yet compromised option. My paranoia is saying they've launched a worse bike for more money while the others are out of stock to capitalise on demand in this latest lockdown. I'm new to all this though so would be great to get thoughts.

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Strange that it’s more with a smaller flywheel. I don’t know much about the 350 but I would say unless it’s using an improved way to get the most out of a small flywheel. I would go for the biggest you can get. From my limited knowledge, larger flywheels are smoother with better resistance and feel.

[@tedfaun2159]

@@SteveJulien That's what my limited research is telling me too. Thanks for the help!

[@jamalhassim2848]

Great video Steve. Very very useful and I like your honest feedback.

[@geminatedmoon7989]

thanks! really helpful video, just bought the ic300 pro for £375. (price has gone up slightly) but it's okay!

[@jayda2364]

The JLL bike has gone up to £449.99. Ours arrived today! Excited to try it

[@SteveJulien]

I think its still a great bike at that price. It did feel a bit underpriced at £329. Have fun and enjoy the bike!

[@BitesOfFaith]

Hey Steve! Amazon no longer carries the JLL! Can you put the link up for the other bike that you recommended? Thanks!

[@SteveJulien]

You might need to go to the JLL site.

[@gemgem327]

Great video, helped us made the decision to go for the budget option. The nob crack made me howl 😂😂

[@SteveJulien]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stubell1975]

Hi Steve, great video. I went for the jll ic300 pro to see how I get on. I'm loving it but could you give me an idea of the resistance compared to the peloton ie is 100% resistance on the Jll similar to 100% resistance on the peloton, thanks

[@SteveJulien]

Glad you like it! If you got on the Peloton with resistance at 100, you won’t be able to move the pedals. I would say: Resistance 30-35 with cadence 80-85 is about a flat road for me.

[@anniecharlton8684]

Hey Steve, I’m looking at buying the IC300 pro however cost wise, do you think other bikes for even less are still worth it? Maybe some reasons at why paying the extra for this still budget bike be worth it? Thanks 😄 loved the video

[@SteveJulien]

Glad it was helpful! I think specs are important so if you can get the same or similar for less, it could be an option. Long term, I get the feeling the IC300 pro is very robust though. TailHappyTV YT channel seems to just review spin bikes and in many cases compares to Peloton. His channel will be really helpful. Good luck!

[@anniecharlton8684]

@@SteveJulien Okay great, thank you!

[@Dan-dz4lp]

Made my mind up Steve, going to purchase the cheaper option for now to see how it goes. Future investment in the peloton will be considered. Managed to get the 330 pro for £180 second hand!

[@SteveJulien]

Great price!

[@Dan-dz4lp]

@@SteveJulien thanks Steve well pleased !

[@Gggg-cq1ih]

Thanks mate

[@mttswllw]

They’ve upped the price to £399! But think I’m going to go for it. Stock end of the month apparently. Thanks for the video!

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Shame it’s gone up. All the best.

[@sbashir9460]

That’s the 300 Pro at 399 and is the one I’m looking at. 300 is still 329 on their website.

[@sabinep.1972]

I have recently found your videos. Since you asked, in America a “knob” is a rounded handle. I’m guessing “knob” is slang for the male private part in the UK? Thanks for your videos.

[@SteveJulien]

You’re right! ‘Knobhead’ is a common insult here. 😂

[@sabinep.1972]

Thank you for the British slang lesson. In the U.S we say “dick”head (sorry Richards of the world😂). I’m about to take a Sam Yo class. Thank you so much for your videos.

[@Shafiq1969]

Hi Steve, thank you for the great share mate. Can you please confirm the comfort level of the JLL and the Peloton bike? Is the riding position as comfortable as the JLL? Thanks

[@SteveJulien]

The JLL is comfy, the Peloton is comfier. The peloton bike is several times the cost, it’s not several times comfier though. Maybe twice as. Hope that makes sense!

[@Kandikingdom]

You have helped me decide to get this exact setup! I’m from the uk so get the knob comment but I dont think we have another name for this type of thing or do we? 🤔

[@lauramushrush2529]

Do you happen to have any advice on a handlebar extender/riser for a spin bike? My husband is 6'3 and the handlebars set at the highest setting for our IC300 Pro is still way too short. The only extenders I'm finding are lifters for road bikes or a clip on stand for the front of a spin bike.

[@SteveJulien]

Hi! I don’t, sorry. Try contacting JLL directly, they may be able to help.

[@tome2648]

Good video mate, appreciate the honesty 👏

[@DaKem666]

Great informative video 👍🏼

[@SteveJulien]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kevingard8716]

Hi. So am thinking about the JLL IC400 Pro as the price differential is smaller now and it comes with SPD pedals. I want to use the Peleton app and my question is, I realise I would need a cadence sensor but would I need a speed sensor as well to use with the app.Thanks for a really good UK review..

[@SteveJulien]

The 400 is a great bike! Just the cadence sensor is needed. You’ll have to guess resistance/effort when they call it.

[@MrEmanon89]

Nice video buddy! thanks for the info

[@Hal-Gas]

Wonder if there is a way to attach a speed sensor on the flywheel for swift

[@kashifgification]

Hi Steve. Thanks for the video, ended up purchasing an IC400 on the back of this. Really happy with the bike and peloton classes. Question. How did you get the resistance knob matched up to what the classes dictate. i.e. the IC400 resistance knob rotates 7 times in total - so is it simply a case of dividing by 100 i.e. each full turn is roughly 15%? Hope that makes sense..

[@SteveJulien]

Glad you’re liking it! It might not be linear but go with how you feel. Ie, if the say 60%, go with 60-70% of your max effort.

[@futureobituary9661]

Great review mate 👏👍

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@mariapersson8243]

Hi Steve, really nice video - thank you! Just a question about the pedals on the Jll ic300 - can you use cycling shoes with clips (ie are there fittings on the other side of the pedal with the toe cage)? Enjoy your weekend, Maria

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks Maria! Just on one side from memory. You’d need to fit new pedals. Have a great weekend too!

[@davidmclaren2747]

Thanks for the video! Been looking into this sort of thing but very hard to find the right info. I'm now between this set up you mentioned and the echelon sport. Apart from price do you have any idea of how the 2 compare? I've seen someone has recently made an app to link the echelon straight to peloton which is what is making me consider the extra outlay. Thanks!

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! I don’t know anything about the Echelon, sorry. Good luck with it all!

[@brianbrooks4070]

Hi Steve great video except that the IC 300 (£329.00) is not belt driven, it is direct chain and not magnetic brake. You are describing the 300 pro version.

[@SteveJulien]

Hi Brian, Glad you liked it! In the video I am describing the ‘JLL IC300 PRO Indoor Cycling Exercise Bike, Direct Belt Driven 20kg Flywheel, Magnetic Resistance, 3-Piece Crank, 7-Function Monitor, Heart Rate Sensors, Adjustable Seat’. Since making this video though, JLL increased the price of the IC300 Pro to £379, then £399 and currently now £429! It’s a great bike, but just not the bargain it was a year ago. Home fitness equipment prices have really gone through the roof during Covid.

[@brianbrooks4070]

@@SteveJulien so is the pro version worth the extra £100.00

[@SteveJulien]

Looking at current prices of home spin bikes, it still looks like good value as they all seem to have gone up quite a bit.

[@chrisjones6439]

Great video mate. Been looking at cadence sensors on ebay and spoke to a few sellers. Many were worried about fitting the sensor to the wheel, any chance you could show how you fitted yours? Cheers bud

[@SteveJulien]

Hi Chris. It comes with a sticky back and just sticks on. Dead easy. 👍🏽

[@chrisjones6439]

@@SteveJulien cheers fella. Was looking for a cheaper alternative on eBay 😂😂 I'll have a look at the wahoo one if it's that easy. Thanks again mate

[@charleslawrence7327]

Hi Steve, what's the top end of the resistance of this bike like? I'm in decent shape right now and have fairly strong legs (2 plates and change for reps on the squat) and want to make sure that I can really go hard on whatever bike I choose. Thanks very much

[@jamesmartingolf]

Hi Steve, great video! Do you think the JLL would be suitable for 6’2” height? Thanks

[@SteveJulien]

There’s a lot of adjustment on it so think you’ll be fine, but I’m not 100% sure. It’s very similar to a gym spin bike if that helps?

[@richardhanley1712]

I've just got the ic400 elite and it's spot on, I'm 6'2". Wouldn't suit much taller though

[@TheKevWig]

Hi steve. Great vid thanks. Im looking to get a bike and have been looking at others. Im trying to work out if this is the better option than the JLL 400 pro. That has bluetooth and HR monitor i think but you have to buy a strap. Looks like you would be able to connect the cadence to the Peleton app with both so perhaps you would be able to see HR on the app too and watts? Do you have any thoughts on if this is right or whether its even necessary? I like the idea of knowing Watts as im pretty sure im weak at the moment and presumably you will get a readout after every workout about distance and hr and watts? cheers

[@SteveJulien]

Hi! I’m not sure, sorry. Knowing your output is really handy on the Peloton bike, I just went with how I felt on the JLL and my Apple Watch read my heart rate.

[@harriet3542]

Hi Kev, I’m also looking at the ic400 and hoping it would connect straight to the Peleton app. I was wondering if you’d bought it and if it was working as you hoped? Thank you.

[@TheKevWig]

@@harriet3542 hi. don't buy the 400pro. I had 2 and sent them both back. both made whirring noises from the bearing from the start and one of the magnets on one was very brittle and bits fell off onto the belt which got embedded in and made a grinding noise. also the set up is awful because with the magnet fully off, on both bikes, I could barely turn the pedals. I had to remove 2 magnets on each one to allow me to cycle up to 100rpm and I am 70kg and fairly fit. I couldn't get the cadence up otherwise. the bike has really good adjustment though. I now have a Body Power SPIC 20. its not magnetic but is lovely to look at and is friction based. its much better but unfortunately I have a clicking now on the right somewhere at high resistance which could be a dodgy pedal. everything seems tight so looking into that now. I think I've been unlucky. I am going to sell my wahoo speed and cadence sensors as I don't really need them. this bike doesn't have Bluetooth but I use my fitbit for heart rate and the bike has cadence on it and am using KZbin spin classes for the moment. hope that helps.

[@marcushutchinson8797]

Great and informative . Can I use the JLL with the ZWIFT apps? Thanks.

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Not sure about Swift though, sorry.

[@marcushutchinson8797]

@@SteveJulien . Zwift app used by cyclists , runners, triathletes . Needs Bluetooth. Would love a Wattbike Atom V2 but they cost an arm :) Cheers mate.

[@lukem9398]

Hello Steve many thanks for the review! Please can you tell me which iPad holder you have on this bike? Cheers Luke

[@SteveJulien]

Hi! Thanks! Tendak Spinning Bike Tablet... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LGYPLP5?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@lukem9398]

@@SteveJulien Much appreciated! I cant seem to find an answer but could you also tell me what the minimum seat height is? My wife is about 5’2/5’3 and trying to work out if it’s suitable for her 😄

[@SteveJulien]

I’m not sure sorry, you may have to calm them. Lots of adjustment though so I think she should be okay.

[@antoniodegrazia16]

Hi Steve, thanks for the video. I’m having some issues with the resistance of the bike. In particular, the interval from minimum to maximum resistance is really not overwhelming and even at maximum resistance I don’t have to put a lot effort to cycle, although the resistance remains constantly hard so it gets tiring as I cycle. Did you have the same experience? Can it be just my bike maybe? Also I think the biggest issue is that basically at maximum resistance the brake doesn’t work and the bike keeps spinning. Cheers!

[@SteveJulien]

On either the IC300 or Peloton bike, max resistance should mean you can’t really move the pedals (or can with extreme difficulty) from a standing start. I’m a fairly good climb rider and I never got to max on either bike. If you're not feeling the resistance get more when you turn the knob, it sounds like the bke isnt quite set up right and maybe the magnet isnt getting closer enough to the wheel. Hope that helps!

[@antoniodegrazia16]

Thanks Steve! That’s definitely not the case for me with the IC300 Pro, might be a defect or something? Can I ask you if you changed the position of the magnets at all with the JLL? Thanks a lot

[@SteveJulien]

I’m not sure, sorry. JLL should be able to help.

[@wheelyb26]

steve were did you buy the JLL IC300 pro? It looks like a great budget bike but ive seeen lots of reviews that its quite noisey.

[@SteveJulien]

Hi! Mine came from Amazon. My breathing was much louder than the IC300! 😂 I found it very quiet and picked it for the reasons in the video. The 300 and 400 are great bikes IMO. All the best

[@wheelyb26]

@@SteveJulien thankyou : )

[@EdWilsonPhoto]

good job

[@lancred]

Thanks for the advice Steve. Helped me choose what I have been recently researching.

[@russ3578]

Everything I needed to know, cheers 👍🏽

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks Russ! Glad it’s useful.

[@stephhenri3960]

Really helpful EV Steve

[@monkfishkev]

Brilliant review....can you use this bike on zwift?

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Not sure, sorry.

[@UFCfighter07]

Hi Steve thank very much for wonderful information can I use JCLl for Zwift app ?

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! I’m not sure about those apps, you might have to do some research. All the best!

[@dancinginthepsychward6381]

Would the JLL be a good bike for someone who lives in an upstairs apartment? I have tile floors but would get a mat for it

[@SteveJulien]

Yes it super quiet and doesnt vibrate. The shouldnt even know you're using it.

[@jermainespence7074]

Steve Help me to decide which bike to get please. It's either the 300 pro, or the 400 pro. Are there big differences in terms of footprint? Is the 400 worth the extra money?

[@SteveJulien]

Hi Jermaine, The IC300 pro more than met my needs and exceeded my expectations. If you’re a really powerful person, the 400 pro with the 22kg (I think) flywheel might be the one for you but I haven’t checked costs lately. You should be able to compare specs side by side on the JLL site.

[@jermainespence7074]

@@SteveJulien it's a shame I didn't think to buy a bike before the pandemic, as the price has gone up by £100. I'm not a powerful cyclist so will probably go for the 300 pro. Just hope there isn't anything I'll be missing by not getting the 400. 1 more thing, is the Wahoo cadence device easy to install? Thanks for replying

[@SteveJulien]

A few people have said that the IC300 has a built in cadence sensor. I never used it (didn’t know it had it) but this will save you £30. If you do get one though, it’s super simple to fit.

[@SteveJulien]

See RPM here: support.jllfitness.co.uk/article/ic300-pro-monitor-instructions-2/

[@jermainespence7074]

@@SteveJulien Steve again, thanks for replying. I'll get it tomorrow as Amazon are doing a Prime deals day. I think I'll stop bugging you now. Very informative 💯 Cheers

[@neilwilson823]

Hi Steve, does the cadence monitor add on work with Zwift?

[@SteveJulien]

I’m not sure, sorry.

[@sbashir9460]

Thanks for this , really useful. I’ve had the 300 Pro recommended and already have a Peloton Digital subscription but use it for the fitness vids. Regarding your phone, was that just placed on the screen? Is it stable? And do you need the cadence sensor , what would I lose by not having one?

[@SteveJulien]

Great. I just used a bit of blu Tak but you can buy a holder. Full details of the cadence sensor I used in the video but people have said the bike comes with one built in anyway. If you don’t use one, you’ll just have it guess your cadence.

[@illastration1]

On Amazon the ic300 has an 18kg flywheel and the ic400 has a 20kg wheel. Not sure if they’ve that recently.

[@SteveJulien]

Here’s the IC300 PRO. Unfortunately, they’ve out the price right up! Still very good though. JLL IC300 PRO Indoor Cycling Exercise Bike, Direct Belt Driven 20kg Flywheel, Magnetic Resistance, 3-Piece Crank, 7-Function Monitor, Heart Rate Sensors, Adjustable Seat, 12 Months Home Warranty www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XC8MC98/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_F5Y6V3KEEAQZWHBAS2J0

[@illastration1]

@@SteveJulien Just seen this reply. Thanks for the info. From your experience do you think the £450 20kg pro is worth the extra £120 over the £330 non pro version?

[@SteveJulien]

I’ve only ridden the pro and in the current climate, still think it’s a great bike for the price. I (personally) would buy it for £449 looking at how much things have gone up.

[@paulharrington9284]

Great video, thanks!

[@kieranloftus7945]

Hi Steve, just come across your channel Unfortunately the JLL IC300 advertised now on Amazon (JLL IC300 2021) is chain driven, not belt driven and retails at £329.00. The JLL IC300 PRO is belt driven and retails at £439.99 I am lost with all the bikes out there. Is there one you would recommend for £350.00 and under. Hope you can help Kieran Bournemouth

[@SteveJulien]

Yes it’s a shame it’s gone up so much! The specs I talk about are the most important really. I don’t have any specific recommendations but have a look at this channel, he reviews lots of bikes: kzbin.info/door/1WMf0n-hEyJpg7Gr35jcrA

[@amkrishnan8732]

Hey mate I'm finding it hard to find a spin bike that's got at least an 18kg flywheel and magnetic resistance. Do you have any others that you recommend? I'm looking to spend up to £350 but most of the selection on Amazon doesn't seem great and Argos don't deliever anything to my area. All I can see is the JLL IC200 Pro but that only has a 7kg flywheel. I checked out the Sunny health bikes on Amazon but sadly I'm not sure when they'll be restocked and I really want to start soon! Any help would be great!

[@SteveJulien]

Ebay may be the best option. Good luck!

[@shelleyjessop2096]

JLL IC4OO PRO

[@andyperry107]

Hi. Slightly confused. I went on the JLL website and the ic300 is £329, but it has chain drive and is not magnetic. The ic300 PRO does have belt drive and is magnetic, but is £429. Is this video about the ic300 PRO or ic300. If it’s about the PRO has the price really gone up £100.

[@SteveJulien]

Hi, the bike I’m talking about is the IC300 pro. It did go up recently to £399 so maybe it’s gone up again. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@andyperry107]

Hi Steve. Very interesting and informative video(I have subscribed because of that) 😁👍. But that price rise is just pure profiteering from these companies. No one should attack companies for making money, but profiting from a global pandemic ???🤮🤮🤮

[@anafez8787]

Fleece braking system, how long it last before we need tk change fleece, if we use cycle at moderate resistance?

[@xxsilverxx1063]

Nice video, went to go buy the jll 300 pro on amazon now £399 😡

[@SteveJulien]

Shame. I wonder how much the 400 is.

[@aamaramin2962]

400 Elite is 460 maybe worth the 60 extra

[@xxsilverxx1063]

@@aamaramin2962 have you got the 400 elite?

[@aamaramin2962]

@@xxsilverxx1063 not yet I'm just deciding between the 300 pro and 400. Not really sure what real difference there is apart from 300 having 130kg person limit and the 400 being 150kg limit 🤷‍♂️

[@xxsilverxx1063]

@@aamaramin2962 yeah I know what you mean, I’m just wondering if we wait till gyms open again will the prices go back down to original price, talk about supply and demand !!!!!!

[@victoriaholden2074]

Maybe a silly question- but is the cadence the same as the RPM, just looking to buy the bike and it says the screen has an RPM monitor. Thanks

[@SteveJulien]

Hi! Yes it is.

[@neilstoddart2959]

There's a reason the ic300 is cheap. Problems with the crank. Google problems before buying. I bought it and had to return for the same reason after 3 days.

[@viorel-]

Looool "nob" xDD Tell 'em, Steve! xDD haha

[@SteveJulien]

haha!

[@StarseededChlo]

Today the bike is £450

[@Raftylol]

I was looking for a simpler version of the bike. Been using the peloton app with my old cheapish bike since lockdown started (bike is almost 3 years old) and the pedal snapped sheer off it :( I would love to buy the bike but as someone who uses a mix of the bike/strength/hit classes, the jump to £40 subscription is silly to me so I wanted a cheaper bike and ended up ordering the JLL! One question the JLL ic3000 pro shows the RPM on the wee screen so do I still need to get a cadence sensor?

[@SteveJulien]

I found the wahoo cadence sensor to be really good and TBH didn’t use the bike one. Maybe try the bike one first?

[@Raftylol]

@@SteveJulien Cheers!

[@111kingy1111]

The JLL cost £450 now :(

[@111kingy1111]

Update just bought a jll from facebook marketplace £150!!!!

[@SteveJulien]

Excellent!