Penannular brooches

[@JulianZeezer]

Always affix those brooches facing away from your carotid artery.

[@lindybeige]

JulianZeezer There was actually a law in Ireland about not having the pin facing out from you.

[@Laochri]

Lindybeige I made one once, it was 76mm in diameter. I'm going for a 18th century Scottish Highlander. On average, what were the diameters of that era?

[@TheScandinavianOne]

Lindybeige Why is that? Was it to prevent accidental poking?

[@TomaszWota]

TheScandinavianOne ...while hugging your mother in law. :P

[@farmerboy916]

If the needle isn't extremely long, you'd be more at danger when that is pivoting about (presumably you're trying to fasten it blind, and the pin could flop around; fastening it pin-away from the neck would add the distance of the ring to the length of needle currently pointing towards your neck) than when it's fastened correctly. Though that's more for annulars and pseudo-penannulars than regular penannulars.

[@TheScandinavianOne]

The cloak is penbeige in color.

[@ThanksIhateyoutoo]

I must applaud you for that Penunbelievably spot on reasoning.

[@ianmcmurchie6636]

+Void Whisperer perhaps "greige"?

[@dirtydan179]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@ironpirate8]

Pending - someone approaching your door.

[@lindybeige]

Iron Pirate Three beige points!

[@ColinStyles]

Iron Pirate :-D

[@Hanatash]

Iron Pirate I guess that makes "impending" = someone at your door.

[@MizterMoonshine]

Iron Pirate Penda - last pagan king of Mercia

[@donna30044]

I thought pending meant almost dinged.

[@lindybeige]

No, Scrath Folchester, Arthur was Welsh, and so he was the head of the dragon. Arthur Pendragon can mean the rather impressive Bear-king Dragonhead.

[@sambakich7494]

Lindybeige I should have made that my user name. Its far more interesting than my current one.

[@sambakich7494]

Lindybeige Also, what kind of brooch is the Tara Brooch?

[@xDrikenx]

Lindybeige This Penannular brooches are brilliant!

[@alessioyautja612]

+Lindybeige Who do you have a 'no rummaging' rule? Just curious ^^

[@recklessroges]

+Lindybeige I was shocked to find that many French people honestly belive that King Arthur was... french.

[@smartereveryday]

Excellent video thank you.

[@JordanBeagle]

Destin, nice to see you here. I heard you too are a Flaggy Flag warrior and I just wanted to let you know how much that means to us. Keep being awesome! =D

[@skyflier8955]

I swear, I have found three different "big" youtubers watching these videos.

[@smorrow]

Sky Flier 1. this guy 2. Cody 3. ???

[@headsetsquirrel2581]

Stuart Morrow 3: Shadiversity

[@blueberry1c2]

Someone heard the word engineering :)

[@andrewkgsmith]

Cloaks and the like are just so top notch, how on earth did they fall out of style?

[@rubbers3]

andrewkgsmith They are still used as a decoration, sometimes.

[@cnawan]

andrewkgsmith Pshaw! It's winter in the colonies and I'm snuggly warm in mine (currently mixing it up draping it asian monk style)

[@puppyenemy]

andrewkgsmith Well, I guess people thought overcoats were more practical?

[@Cuix]

andrewkgsmith As someone who lives in Phoenix, I simply will not shut up about how much I wish light flowing robes could be in style for living in an American desert.

[@jtfroh]

+cnawan After so much talk of how excelent they are, I may just make one for next winter... It will be fun, getting all the odd looks. "Is he wearing a cloak?..." "Yes. Yes, I am."

[@theradioactiveboar]

So the annular broach is basically a belt buckle applied to non-belt things.

[@Bervilat]

Roll the dice: you fumble to the ground, roll again: the brooche's needle pokes into your eye.

[@jennyaston6219]

Did Medieval punks wear them in their noses?

[@morallyambiguousnet]

For affixing clothy objects. Also, the almost symbol for "Quake."

[@yves-170]

Penquakesymbolic

[@voeko1906]

I saw a Penannular today in sweden and talked with my partner about your video on Penannulars. Tried a hat on and some guy came and stood in the way of my mirror and talked about Penannulars I suppose. Had to ask him: Are you Lindy Beige? Hot danm it was you. I was too weired out by my accidental Lindy Beige summoning to stay and talk more with you. I guess it's not entirely random you are at a meadival market, but in combination that I just takes about you and you being all over to this swedish town freaked me out. I did came back for the hat tho.

[@thecookieeater]

Why do you have a no-rummaging rule? Isn't that a bit too specific of a verb?

[@ryanbecker6713]

thecookieeater Strictly no rummaging

[@Lemmywinks1989]

I never thought I would find a broach/safety pin so interesting :P Nice video as usual!

[@skaboodlydoodle]

I'm a 3d artist for video games. I made an in-game outfit recently that included almost exactly what you wore in the video, but I didn't know the name of what this style of clothing was. Wish I had seen this beforehand but in any case thank you yet again for the information Loyd!

[@Rynosaur94]

Seems like a cheap and simple solution. Wonder why we don't still see these around.

[@rubbers3]

Rynosaur94 Because better methods were invented. Like buttons. And zippers.

[@Pengu1nM4ster]

Rynosaur94 Bring back the cloaks!

[@adam.skalny]

Pengu1nM4ster Agreed! Woolen cloak is *extremely* cosy :-)

[@mrkiky]

+Rynosaur94 it's because people were getting pennanulated in the throat too often, which wasn't a problem back in the day, but as the american justice system came about, whoever made those got sued to oblivion.

[@henrikmunkmadsen3190]

+Rynosaur94 To be fair, it _is_ somewhat more metal than a safety pen. And less safe.

[@Xanatos712]

I picked up one of these at a medieval festival last year made of blackened iron and twisted at both ends. Works a treat and goes great with my black crow cloak.

[@UnlimitedLives1960]

perhaps a reason for having two sturdy annular brooches was to (ideally at least) make it more difficult to remove or lose a dress or have an embarrassing reveal in front of all your mates. I can imagine something like that quickly evolving into a symbol of modesty or decency or other fashion symbolisms

[@diktatoralexander88]

Excellent theory. That may as very well be.

[@MarkSmith-mj6oo]

Bob on, Kenneth. Respect.

[@muddywitch9016]

You have a great presentation style for youtube! Thanks for showing me how to put on my own penannular broach/safety pin! 😊

[@maskettiman]

Hey can you make a video on different kinds of medieval cloak? Id love to see how you folded this cloak and such

[@reececrump8483]

From where I'm standing, that cloak be baby barf green, señor beige.

[@Scriptorsilentum]

i've seen penannular brooches for decades in museums and books and this is the first time I've ever seen one used. Effective as hell.

[@GreasyBeasty]

You probabaly won't read this lloyd but I just want you to know, I absolutely love your content. Informative and still very fun. I'd love to see you informing us on a whole lot more in the future. You help with not only my fantasy Role playing but also with my writing.

[@Jontman42]

I feel like I want to get a cloak like that and use it.

[@capnclawhammer3024]

Just made several such. I'm Planning to use them at outdoor fall/winter/early spring dulcimer performances; if nothing else, they can hold my poncho/surapi closed on windy days.

[@HurFordMeat]

I really love your videos. Sure is one on my list of Patreons once I get a decent job ;)

[@TheScandinavianOne]

Marcelo Henrique Thanks for warning me, I hadn't realised he'd set up a Patreon account.

[@1973Washu]

Penarmed to the teeth? Is that only being armed to the chin?

[@oz_jones]

Or he is just biting his fist and hasn't stuck his whole arm down his throat.

[@ijmbvck]

So when an 21st century man, used his Penannular brooche like a annular brooche and learns that there is an much easier method, how stupid should he feel?

[@Hatguy23]

I was wondering how to fit my penanular; surprisingly straight forward! Thanks!

[@Arrowdodger]

Ah, so that's how those work. Funny how the best solution to practical problems is often, itself, practical.

[@lastmanstanding5423]

the word Pen as in the tool for writing with comes from the last name of the guy that invented it: Slavoljub Eduard Penkala... he was a Croatian inventor who invented quite a few things... wiki link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoljub_Eduard_Penkala

[@RainaRamsay]

I support increased use of the prefix "pen" as in "Age of Ultron was penawesome."

[@YuzuDrink]

I am so excited by the revelation about what the "pen-" prefix means...! D8

[@Erkynar]

Viking cloak fastener pin! It's a viking brooch cloak fastener thingamabob. Penann... Peninansulat... Viking cloak pin. Finally a video that shows how it works. Thank you, mr. Lindybeige, sir. Oh, and that colour. I know. It's sort of off brown, not white. Should be a name for it, really. Such a pleasing, warm, soil like colour. Oh, well.

[@b33lze6u6]

wonder if shakespeare had an iambic penannular

[@oz_jones]

Peniambic poems - a collection of unfinished works of Shakespeare.

[@politicallyunreliable4985]

Oddly enough, I'm not angry that I watched this video.These things I did not know. Thank you.

[@AtheistIII]

Got my thinking a bit of emytholgy there... Penannular-> shortened to "pen"-> shifted to "pin" for the pin in the middle-> shifted back to "pen" as in "pin shaped writing device"

[@dadikkedude]

Ah memories, I've made one of those in a reanactment vilage I used to visit when I was a kid.

[@FuzBrain]

I might make something like this, but with a nalbining needle. It would be very nice to have a decorative broach on my cloak that I can take off and start crafting with

[@xliquidflames]

When I glanced passed this video in the list, I read the title as, "Peanut Binoculars".

[@jronsen9224]

I've been using this style of brooch for 30 years of SCA re-enactment and I've never heard them called "penannular", before.

[@LostSourdough]

When you opened it up I was starstruck... I'm a great engineering student...

[@DomesticatedGoth]

I used to have a really twiddly annular brooch with lovely knotwork on it... Pain in the rear to get it on and off of things, but very pretty. I lost it (and the cloak it was fastened to) a while back :( (And I left my torc in a charity shop changing room... I shouldn't be entrusted with nice things)

[@itsMaTt123]

i want this to be in style that cloak

[@jons2447]

Thank you, Mr. Lloyd!

[@Whatever4690]

Wonder if in a pinch they were used as a weapon, like a key inbetween your knuckles.

[@lindybeige]

Whatever4690 Yes, we have tales of this.

[@Its_just_cosmetic]

Lindybeige can you do a video on this :) that sounds like a fun topic

[@mattetis]

Wtf, thought i hade commented this and forgot about it o.o :D

[@Xargosss]

What about ringed pin ? You find a lot of those in the viking world, originating from Ireland, I have never seen those worn, only a drawing of how it was worn, and it's quite strange.

[@chrisfrench7979]

The things you never knew you wanted to know about seem to be endless.

[@Yora21]

These things are something I've been wondering about for a very long time.

[@jeremiaas15]

Pendulum- chinese wheat used to make penauthentic Italian pasta for the Tesco Value brand.

[@oz_jones]

Bravo.

[@billd.iniowa2263]

Thanx Lloyd, I learned something today.

[@FreakingKilla]

Nice you made this video, i just found it through your videos, it´s always been a piece i saw in costumes in medieval set series/movies, and i always have been curious about it, now i know it´s name !

[@smorrow]

1:15 Which is why we say _penguin._ The first "penguins" (auks) had white parts on their _head._

[@LeSadW666]

0:22 OK so I took a few screen shots of that blanket, found the best flat parts of colour and made an average of it in Photoshop then went onto a colour identity website and discovered that the colour of your blanket is either a Light Makara or a Schooner! Approximately of course!

[@Sen_Kanashimi]

Would the Annular brooch be comparable to a belt buckle in the way it works, only with a pin for fabric rather than a bar for punched leather?

[@BananaMana69]

Now Lloyd, i thought I told you strictly no rummaging!

[@thagamerzzz]

I'd like to see you do more movie breakdowns. I loved the Helen of Troy and Ironclad videos

[@Myzelfa]

I long considered getting a penannular for my cloak, but didn't like the way it punctures a big hole in the cloth. Eventually I invented a type of clasp that I could sew to the inside less conspicuously.

[@Halfdanr_H]

I use a penannular brooch with my woollen blankets when I'm camping. Stronger and more durable than a safety pin and harder to lose on a tent pitch too.

[@Jesses001]

Seems simple enough. I might make one later. Attaching the pin would be the hardest part.

[@velikiradojica]

Looks like a grenade ring until you look closer.

[@ElizaberthUndEugen]

perfect for poking out your own eyes when stumbling.

[@SpectreOZ]

Thanks that was both entertaining and informative... I'm curious about this "No rummaging rule" as well, any further story there?

[@douglasfulmer5483]

Sturdier than a safety pin I think.

[@SwordOfApollo]

I vote we define the color of that cloak as Lindybeige. All things of that color shall forever be described as "Lindybeige."

[@BillEdwards4]

I've learned something new. Thank you :-)

[@DreamPen]

Question: Did they always fasten this kind of cloak in this manner? I mean, you're driving its fastening pin through the material. The cloth is thus getting damaged and may eventually tear. Alternatively, wouldn't a well-worn cloak have several holes in it by then? So I'm wondering if this kind of simple cloak ever had eyelets for the brooch. That way you're not always piercing and damaging the cloak. If I had the money and time- and lived in the right latitude- I'd even try making selling this kind of brooch and cloaks, the cloak with a pair of eyelets for the brooch. :-)

[@DrMcPHD]

Hey, got a question for you. You know any good books on about like, the day to day stuff of people from histories life? Those are, in my opinion, the most interesting topics. All the books seam to be about battles and rich people being crazy.

[@WarriorMondenkind]

I got one of these in Ireland some years ago, looked everywhere for a real one since like %99 of them had a modern pin on the back and the old pin part was fixed. Mine has dragons on the circle part, worth every penny of the 25 euros.

[@Caesar_Himself]

Ah Lindy, I believe I speak for the herd when I say: let us drink ale and chew the fat together. The cut of your jib, intrigues me.

[@bronxer78]

Thorough explanation❗️🙂

[@charlottesetsu]

To be fair, annular brooches are also good for cloaks, if you don't want the fastening coming off at an inopportune moment - for instance a travelling cloak for riding on horseback.

[@zizkazenit7885]

I love how Lindy says "pattern" it sound like General Patton.

[@rubbers3]

Just a note - link to the wax tablets is broken, redirects to the "sex power" video.

[@CODomingo]

The broach design doesn't look safe. What prevent it from poking the garment or yourself ?

[@DuchessWillow]

That’s a cool safety pin

[@LaMaisondeCasaHouse]

"Paene", Latin adverb, meaning "almost, nearly"

[@TheSchuetzeP]

I love the Endcard on this... :D

[@malgremor85]

Still doesn't explain how the famous "Tara brooch" works. Does anyone know? It looks like a penannular, but there is no gap. There doesn't seem to be any way to lock it down. I've looked at the thing endlessly & just can't figure it out. It seems that no one has tried to make an exact replica of it...I suspect because no one knows how to use it.

[@Tiger74147]

Isn't this a bit tough on the clothes?

[@lindybeige]

Tiger74147 If the weave is loose enough, no.

[@Tiger74147]

And a loose weave won't make it less effective against the elements if, say, it's meant to deal with cold and wet, like that wool cloak of yours? Not a challenge, merely a question!

[@abcpea]

Tiger74147 im no expert but id imagine you would have a much thicker thread with a loose weave

[@GunFunZS]

Tiger74147 Wanna bet they would reinforce the cloth for the fasteners in the same way we do for button holes?. Fibulae were more or less a true safety pin with a decorative bit over the enclosure too. Lot's of poky clasps around.

[@linkxsc]

+Tiger74147 Well, I've seen instances of these in larping all the time, where there are just holes pre-stictched into the cloth to accommodate this kinda of fastener. Easier to do than making a hole sufficient for a button.

[@isaacreed5814]

What is the music at the end of your videos? It is really good.

[@leorkoubi4626]

Loyd made me love beige.

[@Uatemysoul]

Cool, Time to go fire up the forge I think I got today's project all set.

[@ericeinarson6654]

Toothygrin Yep, and a really simple one too- all you need is a couple of large nails and you're all set. :)

[@Uatemysoul]

I used some 1/4 round stock scrap I had kicking around but I think making one out of a square nail might look nice.

[@frogbear02]

Toothygrin Old garage door springs are what I forge mine from. If you do it with a file, shape it so its more like a "D" than an "O", and quench the strait part of the "D", you can make a penannular brooch (I call em cloak pins) that doubles as a flint and steel striker, as well as an awl, so essentially a 3 in 1 tool!

[@opcn18]

Looks to me like an annular broach works a lot like a belt buckle.

[@kittenmoon8425]

The pin sticking out like that really scares me xD

[@Lessien881]

subbed for marbles in balloons and now im learning things

[@Feminismisfornobody]

Are you ever going to do a video on knights in full plate armor?

[@altEFG]

Lloyd, couldn you please make a video analizing historical accuracy and the ridiculesness of figts in the movie "Army of Darkness" starring Bruce Campbell just for the fun of it?

[@antigen4]

an example of a modern-day annular brooch would be a belt buckle I'd suppose?

[@danielthompson6207]

The color is greige; a fine color indeed

[@molybdenumrose]

I'd say that color would be a shade of beige. Maybe of the lindier variety :^)

[@rocketind7718]

Video yang sangat bermanfaat, Terima kasih banyak saya berharap tidak hanya menggunakannya saja tapi gunakan biasanya pada apa saja, itu saja menurut saya.

[@therealr0bert]

Penadequate is my new favorite penproper word.

[@Ctulhu911]

Well i think now i will get cloack for some weekend's use, just to impress others a bit, and be safe from the rain and cold. I think it looks cool if colour is right ;)

[@MrDeatrich]

Completely unrelated but have you seen the photos of Pluto's surface? Rather... beige.

[@ErikAdalbertvanNagel]

So that thing in my family crest is an annular brooch. Cool.

[@TheSteelEcho666]

That cloak is certainly penashe.

[@MarkSmith-mj6oo]

Surely the finest KZbin video - nay, neé, neigh! ANY video - regarding ‘Les bróac panananulé’. You Sir, are clearly destined for greater things. Eyes, people, EYES! have you dammit👀👁👀👁??

[@h1zchan]

I never liked the look of the needle bit sticking out the other end. Does it hurt to raise your right arm overhead while wearing this penannular-fastened cloak?

[@maplesyrup2944]

peninsula=pen insula=almost insulated=almost island

[@Inquisitor_Vex]

Now I know.. and knowing is half the battle.

[@Tjalve70]

"He pensurvived the attack."