B&Ms getting rougher as Vekomas get smoother is the most ironic thing ever when you think about how it was the opposite 20-30 years ago
@CoasterWolf8413 күн бұрын
And Intamins are getting bad too (just look how rough Velocicoaster is already)
@voconathem4 ай бұрын
Congrats on finding common ground with Mr. Vekoma. You both have come a long way since the Coaster Parody era.
@VestedUTuber4 ай бұрын
To be fair, it's Mr. Vekoma that decided to man up, accept criticism, and actually put out good rides for a change. (though I think people were a bit unfair towards old Vekoma, the Boomerangs and SLCs were meh and ew respectively but the Vertigo and Flying Dutchman models were actually really good)
@SeaWorldOrlandoandmore4 ай бұрын
Guys it is barely a rattle. It is mainly the sound of the plastic shaking on the trains similar to pipeline. It has a slight vibration but nothing to really complain about. Yes it is there but it doesn’t matter as it doesn’t take away from the ride experience.
@typicaluser41164 ай бұрын
I agree with you here, but the 2nd launch little thump was surprising. Though I think I have found out the reason and I think it is just B&M making there radius of the turn's to tight as that is where it is the worst at on all these new B&M's.
@lowbarsociety80944 ай бұрын
You’re right. It’s just something that influencers won’t stop bringing up about newer rides to stir up hollow conversation because there isn’t enough subject matter of value to discuss. I rode Iron Menace last week; it was hardly anything.
@Artbyhurricanyounot4 ай бұрын
People experience rattles differently. Some might notice it more than others. I, for one, tend to be more sensitive to shaky coasters. If you aren’t, that’s great! It’s worth it to acknowledge that it IS there especially for someone who might come across this video and otherwise wouldn’t know.
@ToneTitan4 ай бұрын
@@Artbyhurricanyounot Very correct. Thanks for stating this:)
@maxhagenauer244 ай бұрын
Have modern B&Ms just gotten rougher over the years out of nowhere? Like their new coasters are suppose to be glass smooth.
@TheFlagshipPhantom4 ай бұрын
4:20 actually, I was just there last week and didn’t have to use a locker once! They now have storage bins in EVERY station, it’s great!
@RonnicGD4 ай бұрын
That's awesome news, I'm going in August and wasn't looking forward to having to pay for lockers
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
really? they let you in all the lines with a bag? thats very surprising. I didn't ride anything else during our most recent visit because it was just too hot- I'll have to check out some other rides next time I'm in town
@TheFlagshipPhantom4 ай бұрын
@@CoasterStudios For real! It’s an awesome improvement
@JoeyH-sb3fq4 ай бұрын
I somehow doubt that.
@rachelandzach4 ай бұрын
We went to SeaWorld yesterday and they weren’t letting people bring bags into Penguin Trek’s line. They had bins for small items but no bags were allowed in line.
@Seabass7644 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you when it comes to the fact that this ride was far overdue. While SeaWorld is great for thrill seekers and coaster enthusiasts, they didn’t really have a stand out ride for families outside of something like journey to Atlantis. This was a great addition for the park and I hope B&M does another family coaster like this (Without the noticeable rattle and restraints)
@hipNrip4 ай бұрын
Lockers UPDATE: I visited Seaworld yesterday and riders with backpacks were turned away and told to get a locker. Only allowed fannypacks and items smaller. And we waited exactly 80 minutes for the ride to open as there were technical issues. The ride itself was excellent. 100% fun.
@JJJJ-he8bz4 ай бұрын
Sea World has got to be B&Ms favorite client.
@Daniel_Coasters4 ай бұрын
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@Liight4 ай бұрын
I just rode this last weekend and it was perfectly smooth for me. I don’t know why people are saying its shakey. I thought it was really fun though.
@bjoe3854 ай бұрын
I found that with Nemesis Reborn, lots of people were reporting a bad rattle, I rode it 12 times and only noticed a slight rattle toward the end of one of the rides.
@sterospa4 ай бұрын
@@Liight I am hoping it was just the train I was on and the row. Other reviews never mentioned it. Maybe just some adjustments are needed on the trains.
@VelvetteSimp4 ай бұрын
Its not shaky or rough there's just one terrible transition at the end of the second launch
@matthiasgerson82453 ай бұрын
Could be the wheels 🛞 they use
@IxBl4ckH4rtxI4 ай бұрын
one of the best parts of my job, seeing the finished product
@JeepNetwork4 ай бұрын
Standing in line for this ride right now 😂 ill give an update after Edit: it’s a fun little family launched coaster. I wouldn’t call it rattle, but it definitely has a vibration on turns (especially on the final turn into the station) but it doesn’t take away from the experience. Solid 7
@FLM1423 ай бұрын
Great coaster for the whole family. I just wish a little more theming in regards to the arctic. Being in the intense HEAT of Florida, I think a nice windy blizzard with artificial snow would have really made the experience much better and even more popular. They could have filled up some empty spots also. Excellent ride though. Love the launches. I also think the penguin real live penguin at the end is the best part.
@randomdefender15324 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: 42" B&M's lowest height restriction to date. Most B&Ms actually have a 54" height restriction. I kind of would've preferred to have animal exhibits in the queue instead of the exit to occupy myself while waiting in line kind of like they have with Manta.
@WDWCentral4 ай бұрын
“Accompanied by a responsible adult” *Shows Taylor*
@dilliontrippy5354 ай бұрын
One thing I will say about B&M rattles is that Kings Island is the epicenter of this issue. I love all 3 of them but DB and Banshee have really crazy shuffles in the low parts of the ride. I will say that Orion has gotten better since opening and I feel like you can see why. Look at a more recent POV of the ride and you can see that they’ve beefed up the ride foundation in certain areas. Interesting to see if Sea World has to do something similar as an eventual fix
@jameslitwin56353 ай бұрын
I got the chance to ride it once on a quick visit and was pleasantly surprised, especially after beating the bad reviews. I didn’t find it rough at all. Launches were indeed punchy. One cool thing that happened is my train dueled manta when we passed. Good family coaster.
@coasterworld444 ай бұрын
I went to seaworld in early June and saw this ride and it looked really cool!
@rachelandzach4 ай бұрын
This is a fun little ride! We noticed the slight rattle. The launch and first drop is fun!
@grifinn4 ай бұрын
Orion has been running great since the 2021 season It had a shaky start, but it's glass smooth as of last year
@themeparkguyproductions4 ай бұрын
3:18 Manta has left the chat
@2hoots1cup4 ай бұрын
I barely noticed the rattle on the first turn but didnt notice it anywhere else. Rode the back row. The worst thing was all the queueing up just to leave the building...
@jg88mash674 ай бұрын
The ride's main marquee is so neat
@NerdyandNerdier4 ай бұрын
Still amazing how they fit it in
@TexKP4 ай бұрын
Something like this would be a perfect addition for Cedar Point. They could probably weave a layout around the front kid sections of the park after moving a few things around. The station has an odd resemblance to Disaster Transport.
@Tomtycoon4 ай бұрын
I wonder if this B&M model is designed for a thrill coaster with inversions. I like the single row car design makes it look different from Mack, Intamin, Vekoma.
@maxhagenauer244 ай бұрын
Well there aren't any thrill coasters of B&M of this model so I don't think it was designed for that. Maybe they will make one that does, who knows.
@bocahdongo77694 ай бұрын
You can ask for that if you have money Heck even allegedly they also tried clamshell on inversion
@stevejones37744 ай бұрын
I was one of the first on Penguin Trek and also rode it opening day to the public. I can tell you from a coaster enthusiast pov there is no shake on this ride. Exact opposite in fact, it's glass smooth, kind of like Mako. If I had a complaint, it would come from my 15 year old son who called it "really nice, but underwhelming".
@parks.atelier4 ай бұрын
7:04 oh yes, Penguin Trek, the launch spiritual successor of LRod, love it!
@Mig__Official4 ай бұрын
RIDIN IT TMMRW also this a good replacement for empire of the penguin
@trollcop45043 ай бұрын
Been following this channel long enough to see Vekoma go from the butt of the joke to Taylor wishing he was riding one instead of a B&M because it’s smoother. Truly strange times we live in
@UncommonManFromEarth4 ай бұрын
If you told me back in 2003 when I first became a Roller Coaster fan that one day B&Ms would have a rattle and Vekomas would be glass smooth I would have asked you what kind of drug are you on... 😂
@CoasterWolf8413 күн бұрын
Intamin has really rough thrill coasters now (I’ve only ridden Velocicoaster) 11:19
@D308M4 ай бұрын
Great addition to the park!
@korocell4 ай бұрын
I rode it 2x and the rattle immediately got my attention, asking how can a brand new coaster in 2024 rattle? It's a shame but it's not too bad as Kraken but it's noticeable. And of course the longest exit trough the penguins is bizarre, definitely there should be an option to exit or to go to see penguins...still a good ride for kids, much needed at seaworld... Great review guys, you pointed out everything.
@Hellow413614 ай бұрын
I really want to go to Florida !!!
@brandoncole55333 ай бұрын
7 years ago i would've looked at you like you were crazy if you told me that a vekoma coaster was smoother than a B&M😭😭 but look where we are
@dikballistik2 ай бұрын
B&M and rattle seem to go together lately. Sucks because two of my favorite coasters are Alpengheist and Afterburn. Hope they don't become infamous for this because they make great rides.
@coasterfair26024 ай бұрын
That’s what I been hearing about the B&M new coasters (the rattle)
@FryGuy9094 ай бұрын
when is the great escape vlog coming? (totally not biased because its my home park)
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
we hope to have it up sometime next week but it could be pushed back depending on our workload
@kevhayden65064 ай бұрын
I thought the coolest point in the indoor section is the ice sculpture penguin before the launch. Looked really cool.
@Specialist1Aim4 ай бұрын
This is like if the combined Alpengeist and Loch Ness monster together
@themeparkplanet32104 ай бұрын
I noticed they reused the screen and video from empire of the penguin I recognise that video
@kadenmerritt59793 ай бұрын
Felt very smooth for average riders. This guy just rides every coaster on the planet so he would know but for an average rider it’s very good
@sterospa4 ай бұрын
Yes. The coaster rattles. I was in row 5 and thought is this a B&M? And that jolt transition doesn't help. Noticed both.
@DiaryofaRollerCoasterGirl4 ай бұрын
It's so strange how all these new B&M coasters just don't have that quality build feel to them like they used. Nemesis Reborn can be thrown in that mix as well. None of them I've been on have been painful, and it hasn't detracted from the ride experience, it's just a surprise that the once perfectionists are now making coasters with poor transitions and major rattling issues!
@mitchellries2564 ай бұрын
My problem with this ride is that it doesn't play Antarctica: One World, One Family by Lauren Alaina at the end.
@antonytsai66114 ай бұрын
The trains if they change the restraints to be more like their clamshells I would love to see a thrill version of this coaster model with even punchier launches
@jefcoble88274 ай бұрын
Seeing b&ms getting rougher is sad, b&m used to be a code name for smoothness, so b&m getting rougher really shows that instead of making quality to stand out, they’re expecting people to assume their quality and their doing budget cuts Orion does not have a rattle at all though
@spencoaster8384 ай бұрын
I’d say Orion has a slight one, but it’s not as noticeable as Banshee or Diamondback. Emperor however, is one of the smoothest coasters I’ve been on.
@jefcoble88274 ай бұрын
@@spencoaster838 I didn’t think any b&m at kings island had a rattle at all when I went so idk why everyone acts like they rattle
@spencoaster8384 ай бұрын
@@jefcoble8827 I’m more tolerant about this than some others since KI’s my home park, but it’s interesting when Mystic Timbers does not have a reputation for being slightly rough and that’s a 7 year old wooden roller coaster.
@User-f7l5n4 ай бұрын
Manta and filtration we heard you guys were talking about family coasters well boy do we have some
@PiplupJames4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to ride my ride 🐧 Idc if it rattles. Might me a small shimmy, which shouldn’t affect my experience
@Banner164 ай бұрын
The restraints aren’t too bad, but one time I got stapled and it really hurt my hips.
@SunnylandProds4 ай бұрын
13:44 which offers you this CHILLING CHALLENGE…
@ASDM_Gaming4 ай бұрын
Excited to go to Florida in 2027!!
@notcool10794 ай бұрын
It’s very hot
@wawawis4 ай бұрын
@@notcool1079 More humid and the humidity does keep the temperatures from getting as hot as it otherwise would. It takes a lot of energy to warm all those water droplets in the air. Florida's record high anywhere in the state was 109 degrees. Compare that to North Dakota's record 121 degrees where a dryer airmass was allowed to warm rapidly in a dry summer. Even my home state of Illinois had a record high of 117 degrees. But while the northern states have all reported higher record highs than most of the southeast states, Florida does average consistently warmer by far.
@notcool10794 ай бұрын
@@wawawis I’m aware of the humidity I just said it’s very hot because I was at Busch gardens Tampa on my Florida trip 2 weeks ago and it was 98 most of the day, plus the humidity made it feel hotter
@denisebaglin94452 ай бұрын
I Did this coaster for the first time today and thought it was really cool and fun but man those lap restraints really hurt my thighs. I understand it’s formed for the small kids but most kids that size won’t ride without their parent or an adult. So they really should change the shape a little to make everyone comfortable.
@tjmthegreat40094 ай бұрын
As a 6'3" person this ride's restraints were very comfortable actually.
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
thats good to hear!
@samuelbrewster974 ай бұрын
Same height as you at 280 pounds plus and if I didn’t have thick legs, I’d say I was comfortable
@FloriDUH_JBot4 ай бұрын
A little shaky in the front, much more so in the back. And there is a weird side-to-side jolt in the track right at the second launch.
@Brandon-qd2lb4 ай бұрын
What’s up it’s the vibration issues? Has to do with the wheels or the train? Needs to be fixed asap, it can give you a decent headache. They won’t ever run three trains with their slow operations? Can’t believe they don’t fix these issues before they open the ride up… and you got the jolt after the second launch! Weirdest exit as well that need to be fixed to make it easier to get out of the building but sea world doesn’t care let’s be honest.
@Thrills.of.America4 ай бұрын
Hey Taylor Are you going to Cedar point in July? I’m going to be there if you guys are available!
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
we will not be there in July
@RideofaLife3 ай бұрын
I have just found out something which could possibly be a cause for the rattle now found on B&Ms so basically alton towers now have a board with a lot of info about nemesis reborn inside the new shop and one of the details I noticed was the track was made in utah which seemed strange to me because B&M has always used clermont in ohio so I'm guessing they have switched which could have caused the rattles and issues with new B&Ms such as iron menaces jolt and the fact nemesis reborns track didn't match up so they had to manufacture new track I know its a wild theory but yeah
@CoasterStudios3 ай бұрын
To my knowledge that is a mistake on Alton Towers part; the track for nemesis WAS manufactured in Ohio
@RideofaLife3 ай бұрын
@CoasterStudios ah okay just I seen and it immediately triggered something would definitely have been something if it was true
@mythicgamingmk11054 ай бұрын
I think Intamin will make more launch and Hypers
@josephzastocki28154 ай бұрын
Well I guess we know where skyrush’s restraints went to…
@time4coasters4 ай бұрын
Journey to Atlantis is also a family coaster you know
@maxhagenauer244 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Planet Coaster 2 because the surf coaster lol. But anyways this ride looks really fun for kids and even adults.
@Themeparkfan6304 ай бұрын
Hyped for that game
@extro-order4 ай бұрын
I don’t think the rattle is that bad on new bnms but it isn’t just this although i haven’t done it, Nemesis Reborn and Mandrill Mayhem deffintley have this problem on their turns as well.
@AidanStead-bp8rr4 ай бұрын
I found Nemesis Reborn to be glass smooth apart from the final turn into the brake run actually
@extro-order4 ай бұрын
@@AidanStead-bp8rr yeah it is mainly the turns
@kadabriumАй бұрын
should have used the steel dragon 2 across clamshell trains
@EmberMcLain874 ай бұрын
well i guess everyone will hope and pray phoenix rising doesn't have the new rattle or else i feel bad for busch Williamsburg buying that B&M family coaster coming in the future.
@StadiumofLOLMAPS4 ай бұрын
With SWO adding a new coaster every year, they should pass magic mountain by 2036!
@drdewott91544 ай бұрын
While it looks like a decent fit for the park, I honestly dont know if I'd call it that good. Honestly I fear the height, speed, and overbank might still scare some kids off it. I know it wouldve done that to me before I conquered my fear of roller coasters. But also simply as a penguin themed family coaster, I honestly think a ride like Polar-X plorer at Legoland Billund is much better as a penguin themed coaster. Heck it doesnt have a penguin exhibit anymore but when it did, you could look into it while your train was at the brake run.
@need_more_nanocoasters3044 ай бұрын
I didn’t find Emperor shaky and Orion definitely wasn’t. The rest are though.
@michaelknopp93884 ай бұрын
In an alternate reality I’m a Viking!
@juatin20204 ай бұрын
They should’ve put the B&M family invert here instead of either BGT/W
@adamp23844 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Vekoma too over time is the same way with rattles, Cosmic Rewind at Epcot is a perfect example, it has a bad shake in the last car on that ride now and it is only 3 years old, and all the different trains have that same bad shake and rattle
@wilshiflet38394 ай бұрын
I hope Kings Dominions new coaster aint gonna be shakey.
@spentron14 ай бұрын
Yeah, probably the biggest thing B&M's done that's truly post-2020, so I hope they know eyes are on them. Track surely LOOKS good, massive up close!
@CoasterHead4 ай бұрын
it prob will be :/
@Jay238384 ай бұрын
I swear seaworld is literally building new b&ms like what’s next b&ms first spaceship rollercoaster😂😂
@SpikePBB4 ай бұрын
What's with new B&M coasters having a rattle? 🤔
@Herosadvisor4 ай бұрын
another family coaster, add it to the 6 mile long list
@danilyons23674 ай бұрын
Apparently nemesis reborn has a bit of a rattle as well. Very concerning.
@JaSoNfAn2224 ай бұрын
Why are most new coasters rattling . Its so weird . I rode nemesis the year they closed it before the retrack and i can honestly say that was glass smooth conpared to nemesis reborn . Same for the new wing coaster at chessington , thats genuinely rough . Hyperia has already got a rartle aswell . The old 90s b&m's where so much better quality
@Themeparkfan6304 ай бұрын
Are you guys going to phoenix rising media day?
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
we cannot, we are currently in Europe and won't be back till the end of the month
@Themeparkfan6304 ай бұрын
@@CoasterStudios oof that sucks
@octaloptical59174 ай бұрын
penguin trek or darkoaster?
@MyInsanityPersonafiedlol4 ай бұрын
Once again, there’s non-locker compartments on ice breaker
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
usually that is for smaller items, not full sized backpacks
@Brandon-qd2lb4 ай бұрын
They definelty keep an eye on that locker. Only for hats or glasses
@playernumber9674 ай бұрын
“The only thing I can compare it to is lightning rods old launch” smh in hyper space mountain 💀
@CoasterStudios4 ай бұрын
the only reason I didn't say that is because you start on the incline at a complete stop, vs lightning rod is a rolling launch starting on a flat section of track
@playernumber9674 ай бұрын
@@CoasterStudios fair point but if that’s the case then another alight comparison would be wicked since you start flat before going to the vertical launch. Even though the launch is vertical a similar concept. Just saying
@justinkyle094 ай бұрын
Didn’t feel any rattle.
@CoasterWolf8413 күн бұрын
Just reminding you that you think Velocicoaster is smooth😡😡😡😡😡😡 10:00
@mythicgamingmk11054 ай бұрын
Why is Candymonium smooth but Orion is not
@silenthillxd60574 ай бұрын
"Average run of the mill family coaster" and proceeds to cut to Viking at Energylandia... 😂 Please dear god put a trigger warning before showing that ride. I have unresolved trauma from how much that thing hurt!
@ernestcummingsjr7054 ай бұрын
Just got off, I really enjoyed the effort put into station and queue but I have a few gripes. 1) The rattle on those turns were definitely noticeable in almost every row. I even heard GP on all 3 rides I got on it, complaining about it being shaky and noisy. 2) The 2nd half of the dark ride section has a big section where I thought some more theming could’ve been invested, specifically on the left hand side. It’s just total empty dark space. Same goes for outside theming along the coaster layout. 3) The exit… The exit… The exit… what an absolute nightmare. Traversing through the old EOTP queue with labeled exit doors blocked and forced to go through 2 more penguin exhibits after the ride?? Total miss. It was a maze leaving the ride for me and several others. I even had a guy make a joke about just taking the emergency exit out lol. Otherwise great addition to SWO’s lineup but set back by typical United Parks budgeting and operations.
@Peter_9_9_94 ай бұрын
B&M is going to have to do a lot if they want to stay alive with competitors that offer cheaper and better rides, and it's reasonable to assume that B&M might go under within the next 10 years
@Brandon-qd2lb4 ай бұрын
To many issues with their new models. Terrible rattle on pipeline with the top heavy trains not connected to eachother, who know when someone will want that type or coaster and now this coaster issue to deal with.
@VelvetteSimp4 ай бұрын
I love the helix and the first launch but everything else is mid
@kevinpalmer5448Ай бұрын
5/10
@diamondback-my3gm4 ай бұрын
B&M is turning into Boeing now
@Bradenmatronic4 ай бұрын
Sup
@bassjasinski4 ай бұрын
Wow another shaky B&M coaster 😂
@TBcoasterzz4 ай бұрын
It’s a shame that a brand new 2024 ride has more restrictive restraints than older models from the same manufacturer. Seems like we’re going in reverse in terms of innovation and allowing all kinds of riders to enjoy these attractions.
@maverickheartlineroll4 ай бұрын
Idk why all the new b&m's have a smoothness issue. Watching all the reverse povs, Iron menace's rattle is absolutely unacceptable. While this "rattle" is nothing but a slight shake, both iron menace and this have a jolt in their layouts, and this is way slower, so my guess is severe manufacturing issues/defects on behalf of Clermont steel where they build the track. Regardless, both Clermont and b&m need to fix themselves up bc without their trademark smoothness b&m wont survive in this market Holy cow i just wrote an entire essay about roller coasters
@davidnevolo44024 ай бұрын
B and m loves building coasters you cant feel anything on
@thebabbynick15434 ай бұрын
I mean it is a family coaster
@reteledman4 ай бұрын
bru
@deletedaccountdnd4 ай бұрын
B&M quality falling fast
@winkminer4 ай бұрын
Please watch “Blackfish.” SEAWORLD should’ve been shut down decades ago. Their ongoing torture of sentient beings is criminal. When I saw this story, I became frightened. As long as SEAWORLD exists, marine animals will perish under their care. Send their captives to sanctuaries. Boycott SEAWORLD. Thank you.
@CoasterWolf8413 күн бұрын
Just like Intamin!!😡😡😡😡😡
@seangearhart24944 ай бұрын
B&M = Bumpy & Mild
@CoasterHead4 ай бұрын
it’s a family coaster, not a thrill coaster 🙄
@jackherr43762 ай бұрын
Imagine still paying money out of your own pocket and supporting this evil corporation