Patrick Rothfuss and R.A. Salvatore Discuss Epic Fantasy Full Panel | New York Comic Con 2018

[@Trinhax]

So cool to see Pat and Bob vibe together!

[@ffrank10green]

It's incredible how R.A. Salvatore is actually 14 years older than Rothfuss, but he looks much much younger than him XD

[@bossgbini]

Two of my fave's. These guys are precious to me as a reader and a writer. Bless them. And the moderators too. Thanks guys.

[@corndog3648]

R.A Salvatore is one if not my favorite author. He was one of the reasons I got into writing. And thanks to him and my grandfather I did my stop writing. Thanks up my determination and support from my family and friends. I'm going to be published. My book is called "Ax of the North" it's an adventure story set in land-based on Northen Europe in Norse mythology. There's love, action, betrayal, monsters, and justice. It's coming out everywhere at the end of October.

[@eodico]

I looked it up and so far the people who read it absolutely loved it. Good job. You should be able to get more attention on book 2 because if it. Best of luck

[@CosmicRazberry]

Such a bummer this panel required a separate ticket from a normal Comic Con badge. Was so excited to see this panel live until I found out it required a separate ticket from the 50+ dollar Comic Con day pass. Glad it was posted online though!

[@sesimie]

Grew up with Drizzt and can't wait for Kvote to return...Two of my favourite authors !!!

[@billykennedy2249]

Sesimie StreetFighter oh my god so much the same!

[@Falxifer95]

I've a feeling that if Drizzt and Kvothe were to meet they'd hate each other. Or rather, Drizzt would feel seriously aggravated by Kvothe's cynical demeanor and Kvothe would get constantly irritated by Drizzt's unbreakable code of honor.

[@brandonaxTGC]

What? Two of my favorite authors in one place? Dreams come true!!

[@PenguinRandomHouse]

Agreed!

[@alexcarrick6540]

I don't know if I'd call Rothfuss an author anymore. Don't Authors write books?

[@brandonaxTGC]

@@alexcarrick6540 well he did write books, so yeah, I would.

[@alexcarrick6540]

@@brandonaxTGC I was once a high school student, but I am no longer one because I longer attend high school. Rothfuss did write books, but considering the fact that he has done nothing but appear at nerd, sjw, and charity events for several years, he is no longer an author. At best he's a philanthropist, at worst he's a washed up former author who is riding what's left of the wave of success of his work when he actually was writing. Obviously by definition he's an author, but he doesn't deserve the title any more considering his behaviour towards his fans, namely, that he believes he doesn't owe us the completion of a trilogy. Fuck Pat, he's letting us all down.

[@brandonaxTGC]

@@alexcarrick6540 not really the same. If you pick up the Name of the Wind and say, who is the author? You have to say Patrick Rothfuss. If you go into your old high school and someone says who are the students here you can't say you are. I can see what you are trying to say, but it just isn't true.

[@brettgray5078]

What an awesome idea to get these two together!

[@williamwall8952]

Great interview! Lots of new stuff.

[@PenguinRandomHouse]

Agreed - thanks for watching!

[@RealMisterDoge]

I love Rothfuss's work, but I've never read Salvatore Where do you guys recommend I start?

[@RealMisterDoge]

Thanks!

[@JaimeChambers]

100% agree with the Dark Elf Trilogy: Homeland. There are a LOT of Drizzt books and Salvatore didn't write them chronologically. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Drizzt for an ordered list.

[@bossgbini]

Dark Elf Trilogy yo. You haven't seen sword fighting like RA Salvatore. He's amazing!

[@corlag]

Crystal Shard also

[@samwright4998]

The Crystal Shard. His first book and by far my favorite. I still love the prologue. No other book has drawn me in so fast as Salavtore's description of the creation of the shard.

[@pooyashirazi1991]

waited an hour for that Amalur question, was worth it though.

[@VrgLauraivett]

33:30 "which is a beautiful system if you love...*thinks through his life choices* Math..."

[@sellawin]

My fan theory: Kvothe's relationship with Denna is based on Rothfuss's relationship with Math.

[@masoodvoon8999]

Interesting bit about Amalur at the end. I guess that's one reason why you try not to get government involved (more than it is already) in private enterprise.

[@Spartacus547]

Homeland is the Godfather of dark elf fantasy 😲

[@georgefinnegan2369]

I love I am the Cheese! Chocolate War is pretty good too. Robert Cormier is great. I am reading Submarine right now by Joe Dunthorne at the moment which is excellent in a similar vein.

[@bdgienger22]

I like that Rothfuss is enshaden.

[@burakonlem2143]

*enshaedn

[@TheTruePacmanMG]

If they didn't just do it he would have asked lol.

[@sergioalcantar3290]

Que es 'enshaden"?

[@dman9456]

@@sergioalcantar3290 es una palabra de su libra

[@phillip_rogersjr]

Salvatore completes his trilogies, Pat!!

[@tsmithdotks]

Thank you for sharing this. It was a great talk.

[@owenbaier8625]

Just found this, and I have to say I am a big fan of both, but I really don't understand why Mr. Salvatore isn't held in even higher regard. His stories are great and take me to a place in fantasy that is unequaled in any fantasy world build (save maybe middle earth).

[@lampad4549]

Cause how you feel about him is how every fantasy fan feels about every fantasy novel ever so he is just standard.

[@jonbaker476]

The interviewer reminds me of the kind of person that memorize sports stats but are terrible at playing sports, and I love how Salvatore and Rothfuss just look at her like "What are you talking about?" :D But I like her and this interview nonetheless

[@rabidseabee7229]

But no....how DO you track a meal in a pre-industrial setting? Omg that just opened up so many questions!

[@rabidseabee7229]

Oh wow Bob...that answered a question and opened a door to even more questions: Cadderly Bonaduce was Agnostic, why is this God giving him power when he doesn't even believe in the God to start with?

[@anthonywritesfantasy]

For a moment, I heard "The Son that I Designed."

[@youngkingdom8131]

I look at Bob and just think, “That IS Drizzt Do’Urden.”

[@man-o-liberty]

That is Jim Halpert

[@seya36]

Me to but a barbarian vertion of him jajaja the men is huge!!!!!jajajaja

[@sosrope3420]

A nice example of ancient setting with modern Murrican slang is Ben Costa's "Shi Long Pang". Bro language and Shao Lin monks.

[@nicholasmercer6397]

Ok I love Pat, But im at 5:39.... and oh my god haha, this mans answers are sooo unnecessarily long

[@Feddzzz]

His answers are like stories in themselves and I think that’s awesome.

[@nicholasmercer6397]

@@Feddzzz Completely agree XD

[@onstr]

Yeah, I love that his only mode seems to be story teller mode.

[@l.l.8464]

24:23 that is so true

[@karenlee1741]

Salvatore is the best. I did have a good collection of his. But the Neighbors in the apartment building we were in decided to burn the house down. Literally burn the house down there was four apartments in one building. I told the landlord many many times that they needed to be put into a nursing home they could not take care of themselves anymore I told him they was going to burn the house down. I was right I lost a huge collection of R A Salvatore books

[@jmo5755]

Jesus christ. Its like the grandparents in the visit

[@billyalarie5683]

23:20 RA Salvatore finally curses.

[@carlosflar]

Wait, so you're telling me kvothe has never tried French fries????

[@TheVergile]

Im pretty sure people used the word rubber long before vulcanisation. Rubber-y product like caoutchouc, guttaperche or have been used for a long time. So it wouldnt seem off-putting to me to read it in a medieval or renaissance setting. As ws said things that break immersion for one person may be completely natural for another.

[@joelanderson2041]

Too soon, Bob. Still not over Sernpidal... RIP Chewbacca

[@billyalarie5683]

36:00 LMAO

[@horsemumbler1]

Isn't it interesting how many people here have commented to the effect that one or the other of these authors isn't in the same league / doesn't deserve to be on the same stage as the other one?

[@Spartacus547]

30:00 If she said that I would immediately ask a three-part question

[@jerodhowell79]

Here are two of my favorite authors on the same stage, awesome. However, RAS must be rolling his eyes inside, sitting there while Pat complains about how challenging this aspect of writing is, and how hard it is to develop this character relationship, blah blah blah. Rothfuss is very talented and has potential but he has only written two and a half books in 13 years since his first published work. R.A. Salvatore has written 60+ quality books over the last 35 years because he is a hard worker and because he has respect for the craft. R.A. Slavatore is to Patrick Rothfuss as Larry Bird is to Jayson Tatum. I am not saying Jayson Tatum can't become as good as Larry Bird, I'm just saying he has a LONG way to come before that can even be considered.

[@jeremiahmacclure]

agreed. I would rather read 10 RA Salvatore books rather than 1 Rothfuss book.

[@lampad4549]

​@@jeremiahmaccluregood for you

[@lampad4549]

Didnt realise writting more fantasy books makes you a better author, always knew sarah j mass and cassandra clare was goated.

[@flacsmada]

cant even listen to patty talk until he finishes his 3rd book after 15 years

[@drizztdourden5291]

Dam I can't put down his books.

[@NonameWriter]

I had no idea he was involved with Kingdom of Amalur. I freakin loved that game❣️

[@anthonywritesfantasy]

I want the rules for sympathy! I bet that's awesome. Let alone what the rules for naming are.... Imagining what level Namer Elodin is...

[@sosrope3420]

Champions RPG set in the Four Corners? Hints of things to come?

[@davidpo5517]

Lighting is weird. RAS has a spotlight and PR has a mood shadow.

[@tehdii]

I had a dream today. Pat was talking to a guy/publisher, with a joyfull mood, Viari mode on. Pat is speaking to the man about why they should not publish the book as it is. "Listen" - said Pat - "I do not like my cover. There is a stereotypical dwarf and a red dragon on it." "And what is wrong with a red dragon?" "The red dwarf's cast behind it" And I woke up and laughed ;)

[@rebeccajhall]

Students in Oxford say "okay"...

[@chasemorello60]

In Praise of Folly 🗡

[@peterfabell154]

"You have carte blanche." 🤤

[@billyalarie5683]

"what makes it easy? all the other ones are easy" rothfuss do you know how to answer a question

[@cloudbloom]

21:57 thank god

[@sergioalcantar3290]

No. O.K. is not O.K. but all right or an equivalent medieval term would do well here. My 2 cents :D.

[@MrPleers]

Rothfuss ? Wasn't he a writer 8 years ago ?

[@Haydenthemaker1000]

Why cant I grab a drink a in the 20s?

[@kaelae6237]

Jesus guys the level of sodium in these comments is giving me health problems.

[@brandonaxTGC]

This should have been longer, lol.

[@PenguinRandomHouse]

Watch it again!

[@brandonaxTGC]

Oh I will. lol

[@RealMisterDoge]

LMAO

[@barrabusthegray7660]

I'm just here to say R A is my fav author. I've met his books in 6th grade or smth around 2007-8 with Homeland. I like Patrick too but he seems like he doesnt care about his fans. Cuz we are still waiting for a book to comeout for 5 years or 6? Its better gotta be a 3 k paged book or I wont be satisfied. I'm just in love with his strong writing. And I feel sorry for whoever reads my comment for giving such a miserable time for your eyes. English is not my first lang.

[@eodico]

The reason book 3 hasn't come out yet is because he has ongoing mental problems. He has come out to say he would've finished the book if he discovered therapy years ago. That and raising a family.

[@MrAelin]

​​@@eodicohi, I'm coming from the future. He still didn't write the book and scammed his fans promising reading a chapter and he never did but kept the money. Pat is too full of himself. Stephen king used to live in a van and write with a baby crying every night while he was an alcoholic.

[@adamstroh2708]

Love these guys talking don’t care for the lady.

[@billyalarie5683]

"i'm not gonna say the next thing i was gonna say" bob do you know Pat literally just cursed like 3 times or so before your next question?

[@horsemumbler1]

Not the point.

[@vincentjames1107]

I think its entertaining to observe the psychology going on here. The interviewer is the innocent, somewhat naive person. Salvatore, just the casual, partially withholding and shy individual, and Pat the arrogant, smart-assy guy. And how, since Bob seems to be a quite impressionable and malleable person, how he seems to gain the attitude and appearance of superiority and more of the "well, actually you're wrong and here's why" kind of attitude. This is just the way i see it. Im no expert in psychology, just observing and expressing what o believe took place. Dont get me wrong, i love both of the authors, ive been reading the legend of drizzt since i was young, and recently delved into, and thoroughly enjoyed, pat's works. It is unfortunate that someone who has such an ability to write and influence express such a ...hatred and disgust for...it seems most things. Great guys though. Im sure pat has a lot on his plate. I can see the level of hope lost, of life drained from both of them. Its subtle, but there.

[@RUdigitized]

Sorry but Pat doesn’t deserve to even be in the same room as RA Salvatore. One is a Legendary Author and one is a Twitter activist who has a mediocre book series he’s never going to finish.

[@eodico]

Except only one sold 40 million copies of said series

[@MrAelin]

​@@eodicoPatrick Rothfuss is one of the most hated writers of all times lol

[@curtiswfranks]

This feels extremely awkward to me, and I do not know why.

[@filipegaahl]

the interviewer made me feel awkward, lol...

[@estherpettigrew3042]

I thought it was because these were two authors who approached their craft in completely different ways and probably didn’t know each other personally. So, they’re trying to be polite when they disagree, not wanting to disrespect each other. If they were more well acquainted, they could have some real dialogue.

[@ceciliac6344]

These interviewers are always very awkward. It would be nice to find someone who has extensive knowledge on both authors and their work. No hate to her, she seems like a lovely human being.

[@Grimbanks]

Gotta be honest: I fucking hated Tempi.

[@closer2theheart684]

Everything was great about Pat and Bob except that damn interviewer.

[@MrAelin]

I only see one writer there. Mr. Saivatore. The other one is a pedantic twitch streamer who wrote 2 books and quit.

[@samwright4998]

Bob is a Tolkien level writer for me. Besides Simon Hawke ( Dark Sun Nomad trilogy ) and Richard A. Knaack ( Dragonlance) no other writer shaped my imagination like Salvatore. Patrick although a newer writer has a very entertaining quality to his work also. Like both the other writers ( total of 6 books between them I think ) both quality over quantity matters more and the impact his two novels have made him legend. To all those losers whining about his third book, try writing a SINGLE publishable short story and you will soon see the rigors of writing.

[@horsemumbler1]

@Adrian Anikeenko One could argue that the elder Tolkien's works were also inconsistent, insofar as they were constantly evolving and progressing up until his death. It took a lot of revision and editing on his son's part to make most of his stories consistent with the rest.

[@corsettestorias2873]

man, I loved the host, she is so cool and imperative, pretty herself and comfortable. Easy and wonderful.

[@karenlee1741]

I made my own story up that has nothing to do with the realms. It was about a handful of friends killing a dragon. I told around the campfire. Yeah can't go camping without telling a good Dragon Story. LOL that's what I did I was asked if I had it down on paper. I did have that thing on paper and I still have it on paper I still have that story to this day. I would love to put it in the rounds but like mr. Salvatore said there's too much going on. Too many campaigns too many of other people's works so I have to make up my own land my own Maps The Whole Nine Yards.

[@murilopires4923]

The comment about mexican girls was a really bad take. Even knowing The truth he still does not believe it.

[@Tomoose736]

These two shouldn't be on the same stage. Don't get me wrong, I love the Drizzt series, read most of them, but the difference between Rob and Pat is gigantic... Pat's writing and storytelling is head and shoulders above Salvatore. Sure Rob is, technically speaking, a more successful writer in terms of sales, but Pat agonizes over every detail is his stories and it really shows in his final product. As much as I enjoy the Drizzt novels, I really wouldn't even put them in the same category as far as skill is concerned. Rob is a great idea man, but he lacks the detail that Pat exhibits in his novels. That's why I think the idea of a Drizzt movie is a Longshot. I would be surprised if the Kingslayer isn't made into a movie.

[@hotdiggityayo]

Maybe but Pat also doesnt fuckin put out book series. He can't finish and therefor R.A. Salvatore is a better writer. Hes put out great younger YA fantasy series that help boys get into reading. Patrick wrote a young boys wet dream and as a man I've never rolled my eyes so much as his books. Not to say they were bad but like I said hes all over the place streaming video games asking for money giving speeches for 2 books he wrote years ago and has left his fans hanging. Its unprofessional and makes me look at him as a hobbyist who wrote what he wishes he would have been in a fantasy novel.

[@broadcast3ful]

Chill out little boy, Rothfuss is one of the greatest authors of this generation. Saying he isn't because he doesn't publish books is exactly the thing I would expect from some with your level of maturity and intelligence. Salvatore spits out books like shit, and that's why they remain just that. Pat is creating one of the greatest, most magical stories ever told since HP. Is it for older people, well no, but every single published writer that I know in his 40s acknowledged Pat's genius and every single person I know loved his books. He is targeting growing up men because that's what the world is about, no one gives a fuck about a story for a middle aged cunt with 2 kids and an ugly life he gets blowjobs from at Christmas, no offence. Everyone that knows writing would tell you the same thing, Rothfuss is just, way too fucking good. He may be a bitch, a feminist and other shit, but in terms of writing quality, hands down one of the best.

[@hotdiggityayo]

@@broadcast3ful I can say without a single doubt I have more experience than you. Matt goguen ashburnham ma look up my goodreads account and you'll see over 600 books read. For you to say that hes one of the greatest of his generation just shows you're staring at the surface without having even scratched beneath it. I rated Pat's books well as they were written well for a teenage boy audiance and I can realize that R.A. Salvatore are written for the same readers. I cant believe you just said that lmfaoo greatest of his generation. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hotdiggityayo]

@@broadcast3ful You clearly havent gotten into quality work lmao. To compare it at the greatest since HP just shows me how little of fantasy you've read and therefor my point is proven.

[@billyalarie5683]

Rothfuss is derivative and trite at best. foh.

[@wutlebuck]

Finish book

[@WizardKingCorey]

Meh, Salvatore at least he is still publishing books. Rothfuss was a writer. Now he's a blogger gamer guy who wrote a novel a decade ago. Yeah, not hard at work finishing up book 3, but off at another con, collecting another paycheck. Pretty sure all he does is Kickstarters and that world builders stuff and game. I get it, he sold his stuff and got the big check. He doesn't need to write. But it is sad commentary on his ethics. Just come clean and say you aren't going to publish anything. Hell, the money he has, he could get it ghost written and at least be finished.

[@JorgeRodriguez-ww4pl]

His world builder stuff is a charity that gives millions to people in need, more important than a book. And his books take time regardless because of the quality not because he is slacking off. I dont dislike Salvatores writing but you can tell he doesnt polishes his books nearly as much as Pat, who has taken many years to write each of his books even before he had his big paycheck. Name of the wind alone took 14 years.

[@sosrope3420]

Given he is on record as taking 14 (FOURTEEN) years to get the first book out... chill.

[@WizardKingCorey]

Sos Rope you are just another sucker that thinks this guy is a writer. He is a lazy layabout with a pile of excuses.

[@WizardKingCorey]

Jorge Rodriguez another distraction from the job of writing. He is just playing with his family, gaming and collecting checks from conventions that pay his way to sit around and sign autographs, talk about the same shit for an hour and then he goes and goofs off. Read his blog, he absolutely never mentions sitting down for days during the week and finishing book 3. He is gaming, or doing Kickstarters, or playing with his kid, or doing world builders. Never any time working on the book. It's been a decade of screwing off and that's it.

[@JorgeRodriguez-ww4pl]

@Michael Zhu humans beings, people, care about charity.

[@jechtleonheart9902]

Meh.. Rothfuss should take notes from someone who actually writes books.

[@RealMisterDoge]

It took me a second to realize what you meant and then I actually laughed out loud I guess it has been a while, hasn't it lmfao

[@RealMisterDoge]

In all fairness, he helped write Torment: Tides of Numenera in 2017 and that RPG had a great world

[@WizardKingCorey]

Truth! 10 years ago he submitted book 2. He is not hard at work finishing up. He is screwing off. Bunch of suckers standard around waiting for his sorry butt.

[@JorgeRodriguez-ww4pl]

@@WizardKingCorey Id rather wait 10 years for an amazing book for him to do what other writer do. Publish 3 mediocre books ever year. There is a reason with just 2 books he is more famous than many writers with more than a dozen

[@WizardKingCorey]

Jorge Rodriguez sucker, read his blog, he's milking this, eventually he won't be able to get a spot in a convention because he hasn't published in over a decade. Writing panels are for active writers.

[@Ascended_Uriel]

Rothfuss is overwhelmingly overrated arrogant and annoying. He's not even in the same league as Salvatore. Sanderson, for example, is a much better author than Rothfuss.

[@Mugenis4real]

Rothfuss is an SJW since when?

[@forestcochran4196]

The whole time. Read the books again. There is feminism.

[@joshuanoneyour973]

@@forestcochran4196 uggg

[@eldricgrubbidge6465]

I think since forever. I’m sure he’s written about being involved in the feminist society in university. His talks and blog mention race and gender and stuff all the time. Plus there’s clear nods at social issues in his books.

[@Mugenis4real]

That's so sad

[@joshuanoneyour973]

Yes, with all of this feminist indoctrination and man hating and white male hating, I want you to watch this 7 minute video, please, to remember where you come from, if even for a moment.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKHIqZdvfKZqiKM

[@dlee3710]

wow, two of tge worst writers ever.