Art Is A Scam

[@justtproductions5400]

"It really makes you feel... like a dumb asshole" couldn't have said it better myself

[@gunk3407]

as you see here, a wonderful painting made by a 3 yea- what? what? by jackson pollock? uhhh so he's a 3 year old? no? how old is he? he's 50 and still sucks at painting? i would make a better doodle and would probably sell more than this man

[@thecrazybirdboyck301]

@@gunk3407 Pollock is just doing fucking very advanced money laundering that’s all it is

[@gunk3407]

@@thecrazybirdboyck301 no he's drawing a 3 year old

[@followerofannus1610]

@@gunk3407 So uh, can the three year old just take the form of a colored dot on a wall, or maybe spilled paint on a canvas? IT'S INCREDIBLE, ILL BUY IT FOR TWENTY MILLION!

[@gunk3407]

my english was kinda bad

[@NanoMayTry]

Whoever said, "Art is just the trading cards of millionaires..." was a genius.

[@Madkalibyr]

Dude that quote, -*chefs kiss *

[@tonkotsuramen8453]

It actually really is

[@lanagreen5736]

Can someone find that quote, thats great

[@marcoantino2920]

well it is a front to launder money, so yeah

[@jadenting2495]

Jackson Pollock's would be like, blue splodge white canvas

[@fistofjustice13]

Jackson is a genius, he found out rich people are stupid with money before anyone else.

[@oldreaddy3341]

A fool and his money are easily parted.

[@NoNo-fv9pz]

No they buy painting for tax evasion

[@polkunus]

Jackson was a genius, its just that the novelty of his work wore off as literally everyone started making abstract wallpaper and shitty abstract trash

[@27jyp]

So is Mark Rothko, he did the same thing laughing his face while cooking his bbq with his friends!!!

[@Alexander-nc4vy]

The richer you get, the less valuable money is.

[@MrBruno7447]

Ok, here's my take on it: "Modern" art started as a way for art students of the beggining of the 20th century (such as Duchamp), who were fed up with the establishment, to revolt. They wanted something totally new. Their art is outrageous because that was the point, it was made to anger the big pompous aristocrats who appreciated "fine" art. However, as this type of art got more and more copied, and itself got more established, the pompous aristocrats saw that they could made a lot of money through it, so the art establishment (museums, colectors, art schools, auction houses) started assigning more meaning to these pieces, in an effort to justify their existence in the market. And then it's just downhill from there.

[@SirBeastlyBossAwesom]

This comment needs more recognition. I think you hit the nail on the head

[@damaged.collateral]

couldnt have said it better myself

[@mikeoxlong1395]

So, the punchline is... THE ARISTOCRATS.

[@andylu7265]

To become the very thing you swore to destroy

[@drautin348]

So your just going to guess what happened and have people agree with you, seems legit.

[@bluejay9307]

As an artist the thing that's frustrating is that people don't even like the art they are buying for millions of dollars. All they know is the person who made it is worth millions so they art must be worth millions too.

[@WTFooLL]

What's even more frustrating are teachers using those as valid examples.

[@mabry403]

Makes me so angry as an artist that people that make these glorified dumpster fires get so much attention over the true abstract & “modern” artists who put so much time, passion, & creativity in their work. There is absolutely no meaning or feeling behind these pieces. These are lazy wastes of paint.

[@Admiral45-10]

Will you be upset if I told you, that I more like art showing something in beatiful instead of a banana duct taped to a wall?

[@kyletheanimator8911]

Nft moment ( I wish I was joking)

[@kingquazi]

i would add some people buy just cause they see high price tags for flexing. look at clothes for example people would spend like $500+ on a belt just cause it says "gucci" when you can buy belt at walmart for less then $20. they do the same exact function yet one has a fancy label so people shell out unnecessary amounts of money for it.

[@e-tan3911]

The reason the blank canvas "pieces" have nothing on them is because the artist's snorted all the paint before getting to do anything

[@armaanansari4922]

snorted it all and passed out so when it was time to pack it up and send it to the gallery the artist was like eh yeah this is it

[@Clos93]

Most these "artists" be snorting something else to fuel their ridiculous lifestyles lol. Sell garbage to some pretentious douche, buy some shit, rinse and repeat lmao.

[@Blue908_]

There is an artist the drew something really cool and then erased it and that was it artwork. The blank canvas.

[@DrakenFire]

I don't laugh often on comments. But this one was a heavy hitter xD

[@fajaradi1223]

Dude must've lungs with a jet pumps capabilities.

[@ShortHax]

It’s not a scam, they’re just making sure everyone passes art class in the modern age

[@epicgamer2820]

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[@woodenchairofwood419]

My mom met a guy who basically taught her how to make art like this, she just put a couple paint strokes on a canvas, put it in a gallery, and just came up with some bullshit explanation on how she made it. She ended up selling the painting for something like 800 bucks.

[@poperaymond431]

“Pollock was the first artist to present Paint as paint.” *So who’s going to tell him about Home Depot*

[@funkworthrollin4959]

Pollock has to be before Home Depot...

[@Competitive_Antagonist]

Scamming is still an art form. So Jackson Pollock and the like are brilliant artists.

[@Necrometalfist]

Sherwin Williams has entered the chat

[@sleepbeinshy5775]

Pollock made some very nice, more traditional paintings in his earlier years

[@WTFooLL]

Imagin if I presented gentials as genitals *mind blown*

[@okparagon]

“This artist presents paint as paint” “Oh yes, much like one of my favorite artists… Home Depot”

[@motifity3416]

@@sakura-pq9xk I pity whoever created this YT bot, having to produce such monstrosities just to scrape up a little cash from the naive that click those links.

[@jeancarvalho3930]

@@sakura-pq9xk begone, spawn of darkness

[@katsuito1083]

@@motifity3416 remember when you couldn’t post link on KZbin? Good times

[@callmeangie867]

I prefer Ace Hardware myself.

[@no951]

Mm yes this air is air

[@satoyaki5109]

People who will draw for you for like $20-$50 are significantly better than any millionaire high/modern artist man

[@epicgamer2820]

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[@sunshinem.7741]

So true! There are hundreds and hundreds of amazing artists who are smaller or only known online who won't charge you $10,000 for a sneeze on a canvas.

[@thiccchungus5362]

People shouldnt have to charge that little for something so damn hard to do

[@thiccchungus5362]

@@sunshinem.7741 Because they have to, alot the poeple making these simple modern art have done stuff comparable to the mona lisa

[@Coco-Loco]

Yeah! Those people have years or even decades of experience in art and they make great art that is priced at $20 and these guys shit paint on a canvas and sell it for millions, a child can do that.

[@The1920sChannel]

In the 1920s, a guy named Paul Jordan-Smith got annoyed that his wife's amateur art was dismissed by art "experts," so he invented a new person, gave him a European-sounding name, said he was famous in Europe, and made a bunch of purposely bad art, which were hailed by the same art "experts" as great pieces, and they were sold for a lot of money. After like 2 years, he just told the media he made it all up, then went back to doing his own thing. True story.

[@tohaovershell]

My hero. I would love to do this someday lol. I bet a lot of actual artists do that shit

[@bakaneko6639]

​@@tohaovershellwell you need marketting skills to do that

[@Madoka_Raviel]

What a chad

[@CaptainDoomsday]

"Each of those lines is recording the gesture of his hand as it moves." That is LITERALLY every line that has been made by a hand. That is how making lines works. If there were no record of the gesture, there would be no line.

[@sinisterwombat3128]

Yes! Show them, Captain!

[@henrijs1733]

Yeah, bitch! SCIENCE! Attaboy Captain!

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

I would buy a piece made from Picasso shitting on a canvas before I'd buy any modern piece of rich people art.

[@davidniedermeyer8285]

He says so much but also so little.

[@sigmamale4147]

It seems that the way to scam rich people is just using fancy sentences to describe a very simple idea

[@tysonwilliamson4156]

I’m an art student studying to be a concept artist for games, and before I got into a wonderful online program, I had to deal with this everyday when I attended a physical fine arts school. That was such a horrible idea, my brain was melting seeing art like this and having my professors make us all awkwardly takes turns explaining our interpretations of it. I can definitely see the value in some pieces, but scribbles and dots shouldn’t be worth millions, and I think anyone with common sense can understand that lol

[@SeIfishmachines]

Yeah but rich old people with no brains can’t see that

[@devilsgambit738]

I feel this, took art as an elective in hs and hated it for the most part. Having to do the modern and abstract movements were sooo bad. I remember once we were presented a painting by some famous artist of nothing but a red cube and some bullshit spiel about how it represented his “early life out in the wheat fields”. Another was going to an art museum and two of the exhibitions being 1) A pile of wood planks just hanging from the ceiling w wire (not set in any kind of pattern, just hanging randomly) 2) and a fucking toilet. Nothing else, just a toilet. Both by the same artist. My teacher was in awe while the dude was telling stories of what “inspired” his “masterpieces” like she couldn’t comprehend the ‘genius’ of this literal pile of shit. Sad because it feels like this sort of thing encourages people to just give up, you can study for years to learn anatomy or hone your style and still never be recognised while low effort shit like this makes millions only because it was some famous dude who slapped a couple paint cans around and called it a day.

[@mybigwillie6153]

I was glad that in HS we eventually got a new art teacher who was like "if you do splatter painting...don't do splatter painting."

[@Alexander-nc4vy]

As someone who is good at drawing, I think modern art is a disgrace to my field.

[@devilsgambit738]

@@Alexander-nc4vy I’d say yes and no - not all modern art is a disgraceful “slap some paint on it and call it a day”. At the same time though, it does feel like modern art encourages laziness, or at least the idea that no matter how well you draw unless you have real connections or large followings, you’re going to get nowhere. You can take several years to paint the most beautifully elaborate mural like no one has ever seen, and still have it be passed over for some other guy with influence stacking a few paint cans together and calling it a day. I got disillusioned with the arts and never pursued them as a career for that reason exactly. It’s a big problem with a lot of artistic industries - acting, music, graphic design, ect ect. Feels like the requirements aren’t about how well you can do something, but about being recognised enough to get to a place where you’re famous. Connections are everything. That’s a theme in a lot of lines of work, but it’s super apparent in the art industry especially. And why do you think so many modern songs all sound the same? If the same lazy algorithm works, why bother exerting the effort right? Why bother putting in the time and effort to make something adventurous and experimental that could potentially tank when you could copy the same old formula to guarantee another money making hit. Kinda sad honestly

[@berfwellington2552]

I had an art teacher who said (in the context of mocking art galleries) that he entered a room in a gallery but he couldn’t find the piece. He then walked across the room to read a sign posted near the middle of the room which said “corrugated steel” and a bunch of artsy gibberish. Looking behind him he realized he just walked over the “art”. Also he said in that same gallery there were a bunch of people taking pictures of a fire extinguisher thinking it was part of the exhibit.

[@callmeangie867]

Wut 😂

[@highmay3590]

You might like the art gallery scene from Nathan For You

[@CorelUser]

This is literally a comedy sketch

[@EvilSantaTheTrue]

This is some sitcom shit right there

[@sixxychik87]

Can't make this shit up. 😂

[@crisptomato9495]

I remember one particular piece of modern art I thought was cool. The artist placed a tall wooden machine in the middle of a busy sidewalk with a handle passersby could crank. For every 4.97 seconds the person cranked, the machine would dole out a single penny. Most people realized the time it took cranking the handle wasn’t worth the pennies they got and gave up. It was meant to represent the minimum wage in the U.S.A. and how little money people actually receive for their labour, since if you are paid $7.25/hour you literally make 1 cent for every 4.97 seconds of work. I thought that was pretty clever. 99% of modern art is flaming dog shit though.

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

ok now that is clever and I dont think the artist want the wood itself to be classed as the art....unlike this crap

[@Timeward76]

Now THAT is a good example of modern art. It is focused, makes a clear statement that still takes some time and thought to truly understand. And it is clearly not effortless, as the machine had to be crafted, its mechanism calculated and designed to dispense pennies at the correct rate.

[@colinscherer3316]

@@Timeward76 so its only valuable if the artist spent a lot of time on it? it could just as well have been a preexisting machine that the artist used but the effect is the same. This is why art elitists like you have no idea what you even want other than defining a hierarchy

[@Timeward76]

@@colinscherer3316 Art without effort is pointless.

[@chulama4615]

@@colinscherer3316 yes, it is only valuable if the artist spent time on it

[@kmono_]

Charlie should do a modern art challenge with his friends, they all make nonsensical art and they have to explain their beautiful modern art pieces. That would be the funniest shit ever to see them try to explain their own modern art.

[@lityerambidextrous3668]

Yeeeeessss!!!

[@Fo__Sho_]

That'd be huge lmao

[@hehe-sm9rx]

up up up

[@Marksman_12]

Well, they did draw sometime back although not all the other that you described but still: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKOmqHl8m7tpg6c

[@sum-dum_nerd]

id watch the shit out of this

[@dyingtolive3147]

Most modern art is one of three things imo : 1. An artist trolling rich people 2. A way to launder money 3. Something nice to look at and nothing more

[@jumjalalabash]

I strongly disagree with 3.

[@joshjonson2368]

where does three come in because i've yet to have witnessed it

[@dyingtolive3147]

Hey guys that's why I put imo (in my opinion) you don't have to agree

[@wowalamoiz9489]

3 is Pollock's art. Don’t you guys think it could make a nice bathroom tile?

[@dyingtolive3147]

@@wowalamoiz9489 Yeah like I don't think it's that impressive or anything but it's got a nice look but everyone has the right to their opinion I can see why people don't like it

[@josipeka89]

Classical art is a picture worth a thousand words Modern art is a thousand words to "explain" a picture

[@DarkWorldOrder]

Nailed it

[@gigachad8894]

Well said

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

I don't mind a nice story to go along with art but if it's to explain how good the art is and not to help make a story using the art as a base for your imagination then it's a failure is all terms.

[@somethingclever4563]

Perfect

[@hughmiller7127]

Learn what Modern Art is first. Modern Art have in around about 100 different styles ranging over a 100 years time. Some art "surrealist", some are "realistic", and some are "abstract", and I put them in quotes because Realism, Abstract, and Surrealism are all styles in their own right. Short list of Modern Artist, Monet, Von Gohn, Rockwell, Seurat, Picaso. What they all have in common, all are Modern Artist, and that about it. Hell, Superman in Detective Comic is Modern Art.

[@leosthes364]

Whenever you have to “explain” your art rather than letting the art speak for itself, you know you failed as an artist.

[@tame1773]

Truefully

[@clementj]

it's usually somebody else that tries to "explain" them though, just to fetch a high price for it LOL

[@billycumcamp6104]

Its the equivalent of a big arrow pointing at a stickman with the words "ME" next to it

[@benjaminallison4973]

Pollocks work dont need an explanation, they have no meaning.

[@sirnick12]

tbh most artists don't explain themselves, it is other people. Plus as someone who has a few friends in a lterary circles it just sucks, you create something that touches on a lot of topics you read about, try to make them play of of each other as cleanly as possible, and still quarter the people reading your stuff will be like "WOW MIND BLOWN SO CRAZY" the half will be like "yeah I dont get it" And then there are some peolpe who will get it and try to explain it to others instead of just enjoying the fact that you found a wholesome moment of communication with the artist through their work

[@SuperWiiBros08]

I love how cr1tikal has been on a constant rant with Jackson Pollock and other modern abstract artists

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[@liarodriguez9119]

I don't even hate modern artists, I'm just jealous they figured out how to be lazy and make money, it's my dream

[@liarodriguez9119]

@Horamberg I mean same honestly and while I do actually draw if I could trade my skills for whatever tf contacts these people have I woulddd

[@TylerG13]

How can you look at the 7:20 mark of this video and see any of those paintings and think the artist is lazy…

[@Yoruharu]

@@TylerG13 trying to justify shit painting, i see

[@Yoruharu]

@@brett255 "effort" yeah, enough effort to launder a ton of money.

[@Grunfffff]

All 0.01% of them who make money

[@DOPN]

I bet if you took paint cans and stacked them in a triangle and had cool colors on one half and warm on the other, people would make something out of it and call it a masterpiece.

[@deeznutsifier69420]

*yoink* I'm gonna make millions, thanks bud 😎👍

[@deeznutsifier69420]

@forEach well I patented the idea so now you owe royalties to me 😈

[@lauragroenveld1668]

See what makes it a masterpiece is that the paint isn't trying to be what it's not. The cool colors are cool, and the warm colors are warm. They don't mix, they don't make you think 'huh, could this cool color also mean something warm?' You see what you see. The triangle beautifully represents that you can be anywhere from cool to warm, and even move from one side to the other, but you will never be both at the same time. If you look at the shape and the colors, you can also see how the artist placed the cans, you can almost feel him there with you, putting the cans down. It's never done before, nobody has ever come close to this!

[@sarcasmguy2195]

i was wondering what makes a colour "cool"

[@felidae1994]

Seriously just do it and act like you are famous artist

[@michaelrobert6386]

Modern art exists on a bell curve of pieces that are genuinely creative, an interesting, and then there’s the random BS people throw together in claim is incredible.

[@DrunkenMalkavian]

"Of course the Emperor's new clothes are fabulous! What? He's naked? No, no, that's just you, I can see and fully appreciate them, I'm not stupid."

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Woefully applicable.

[@adithyamenon8517]

I'd completely forgotten about this story! Thank you reminding me of it. And also the very apt analogy 🙂

[@youtubehandleorsomething]

I used to love this story when I was a kid, Thank you for reminding me

[@theflyingdude6523]

Exactly

[@krikeydial3430]

My favorite naked artist is Maude from Big Lebowski. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHWneI2ul5uMnq8

[@DrinkJel]

“What you see is what you see” “Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes”

[@flaksjhfdi]

At nighttime, it turns into the night sky.

[@greasybumpkin1661]

People with synesthesia: am I a joke to you?

[@averageprimate00]

Water is wet

[@thethmooteresa]

Fire is hot

[@ad.808]

Earth is flat.

[@Midnightstar2675]

As someone who actually likes abstract art I feel like people trying so hard to put “deep” meaning into it are super freaking pretentious. Imo abstract art is all about accessibility and enjoying simple fundamentals like shapes and color. The same enjoyment can be found in mixing paints at home or arranging your own mood board. I think it’s fun to look at why we like certain colors or lines or why it might make us think of something negative But anyone can make a Jackson Pollock. He was making paint splatters, some people think it looks cool and some don’t. You can make paint splatters yourself and hang it up in your house and be just as happy. The high art world is all about fame and connection, and inflating their work’s value. Some people might find a lot of meaning in a blank canvas, but imo most of the time it is just bullshit to make rich people spend money on it. It makes me upset that modern art has alienated a lot of people from engaging in art in general because it’s so fake and hollow. Abstract art means whatever you want it to, and anyone can make it. Trying to make art exclusive and restricted and “oh you need a high IQ to “””get it””” is pure bullshit. There’s nothing to “get”, it’s just do you like looking at this or not. If you don’t like abstract art then you’re not stupid, it’s just not your aesthetic. Liking photo realistic art doesn’t make you a genius in the same way. Abstract art isn’t about skill, and that’s why I like it. Anyone should be able to make and enjoy something creative that makes them happy. Putting those pieces in a museum that you have to pay to see and claiming it took so much skill and it’s so special and unique and not like anything anyone else can make is elitist bullshit.

[@FunkelFargas]

Fuckin... What he said. People that unequivocally hate "modern art" are just as pretentious as people who jerk themselves off with modern art.

[@alexkalb7096]

thats actually a great take

[@alsizar7865]

It nice to see through and thoughtfull comments every now and then on KZbin.

[@FunkelFargas]

I made my own comment but I'll put it here too, this is a really good video to "understand modern art",, I think it goes well in depth into explaining how modern art should be valued just as much as classical art. It really convinced me tbh. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGanoqCKqaiDn7M

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[@Downbubbles2]

“What you see is what you see” Ah yes the floor is made out of floor, profound.

[@da1t036]

I'm an art major and believe me, many artists think stuff like this is trash.

[@athing6101]

*insert broke joke here*

[@SchizoidMan1989]

I can imagine a similar dynamic with architecture. Imagine spending years immersing yourself in historical beauty, before having to overlook projects that are either oppressively cookie-cutter or a loud eyesore.

[@NoobsDudes]

You mean any actual artist?

[@knilloc8095]

@@createdjustforyoubypaul that is an awful lot of beautiful meaningless words to defend business men whose scams make as much money as the wages they're friends don't give to the artists hired by they're company's.

[@luciddreemurr6073]

@@createdjustforyoubypaul honestly, i think art is just a particular way of saying 'expressive creation'- you could theoretically claim pretty much anything man-made is art (by my definition,) since it is a created expression of some trait. maybe just a phone, for example. it is just a phone, but it is also an expression of design, effort, maybe creativity, desire for money, utility, etc, since that is what traits it could most easily be interpreted to show. on the other hand, at the end of the day, a phone is a phone, and you will most likely still use it as a phone, because that is what it is made for. i think the same thing applies to what is most commonly referred to as art (paintings, drawings, sculptures, etc) due to it being possible to interpret it in the same way, just more commonly. this also means that art could be interpreted as malicious, or as some people would call it, a scam. not all art, but some. some art is created with the intent to scam someone as means to gain something, commonly money. there is always the possibility of art being created with that kind of malicious intent. the problem with thinking that way is that, because you cant just read an artists mind to see what skills they used, or what their intention was when creating art, it is open to interpretation, meaning that anyone can call any art a scam, and anyone can say art has infinite pure and actual value, and neither could be 100% wrong. so, essentially, yes, it is a scam. at the same time, it also is not. TLDR; art is open to interpretation, therefore all art is considered a scam and also is not, simultaneously.

[@KingSulley]

The only thing that matters in art is your Credentials. Where you studied, where you traveled, and who you know. I feel bad for any student whos genuinely interested in Art because it's next to impossible to be successful on talent and skill.

[@spillikyn9128]

all that matters is how much money you dumped into getting a piece of paper that says "i passed a class on explaining art." I've been an artist almost my entire life, and i won't get a single job unless i put myself in debt to get a paper that says "i can do art" when i could easily prove it without signing up for poverty.

[@noahhecker6672]

This is why the American college system is also a scam

[@ryy1704]

Your wrong, that's modern art. You can become industry artist and make art for games and film. That's what most people go into now, extremely competitive tho

[@Fridabina]

Your view of what makes an artist is very narrow it seems

[@furymonger5395]

Many people would pay good money for certain drawings these days.....

[@iuno3333]

That's why I love Zdzisław Beksinski's art and his attitude of "theres no meaning, i just thought this looks cool as shit". He literally didn't even give his paintings any titles, because he didn't want the viewer to get influenced by them

[@Ed.strell]

His attitude wasn’t that they didn’t have meaning, rather that he wanted the viewer to develop their own interpretations. His art is so cool tho lol

[@jenmygem]

I love his art too Dang give him that rec

[@snowdevil002]

OK so why not apply that logic to what Jackson Pollock does? You don't think he thought drip paintings looked cool as shit?

[@tomfoolery7797]

I love his work, every piece looks shitballs insane. Like you're looking through a mirror connected to some weird dystopian hellscape dimension.

[@codgod5238]

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[@TheKrazeeLadee]

This reminds me of when I went to a museum a couple weeks ago. Among the art pieces, there was one empty space with a title card that said "NOTHING". And the guide book described it as representing the emptiness the 'artist' felt inside. All I could think was: where the fuck have we gone wrong as a species to have arrived at this point???

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

You can literally snort paint and sneeze onto a canvas and call it "art".

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[@eggmon420]

People “understanding” modern art is like when you tell a joke to someone and they laugh but when you ask “Do you get it?” they say “No.”

[@rainydeestar]

Ngl I kinda do that whenever someone tells a joke and I don't understand. I laugh, and then immediately say "I don't get it"

[@eensteen]

well to be honest thats exactly correct, this abstract form of art legitemately only is there to make you think. like not even kidding.

[@walkerstandard2373]

I mean with that first Pollock example - no one was able to present art in such a way (and message) as before. For that reason he was praised. You can imitate his art style as much as you want but the effect and reception will not be the same because you are only riding on the message and statement he made initially.

[@sakura-pq9xk]

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[@_SUPERN0VA_]

@@eensteen it makes you think "why the fuck did i just spend 60 dollars to see such bullshit ?"

[@Enoch_Draven_Hyde]

Fountain, by Duchamp is one of the best art pieces of all time. He took a urinal off a wall, turned it on its side, and literally pissed all over the art world. It's hilarious, and brilliant.

[@stephenn1056]

The best part was when the art gallery was like "yeah bro 11/10 and put it on display"

[@Enoch_Draven_Hyde]

@@stephenn1056 Pretty sure that the gallery curators get it. It's from the Dada movement, which is anti-aesthetics and art culture at that time. Early 20th century.

[@AlexIs-Yup]

I'm so glad someone brought up Duchamp. This is the exact art piece I was thinking of when Charlie was talking about the paint cans... I'm just thinking, "you think this about Pollock? Don't even get me started with Duchamp." Dada is a whole other world.

[@krikeydial3430]

Those who can, do. Those who can't, Duchamp.

[@youtub-fj8mu]

Duchamp made the same criticism this comment section makes but 100 years ago

[@coryhalley5429]

Honestly Charlie should just find a shit ton of underrated starving artists to commission and make his own art gallery; there is so many legitimately skilled artists that are ever hardly recognized.

[@Supermanpower3000]

I agree

[@altaydraws]

I agree

[@rivern.7551]

honestly, I don't think they're "Thought Provoking" but some of Pollock's paintings actually look really cool, in an album artwork sort of way

[@FatGouf]

Art snobs are the one who make it deep when its shallow but looks nice.

[@friedrice7876]

Get out

[@gachatookthekids]

Yeah, looks like something that would work in my living room, but I'd be pulling my own leg if I consider it thought provoking

[@dillberrystew6205]

Stone Roses init

[@sugarsako4228]

Yeah I agree they just shouldn't be so expensive

[@yenjin583]

charlie sarcastically explaining the meaning behind jackson pollock’s painting was me bullshitting my way through english class

[@kevynlub2655]

That’s the beauty of English class. You can bullshit anything as long as you have confidence in it

[@godisgood201]

All English classes are actually just as bullshit as these paintings.

[@Livkiria]

it literally sounded like the way i described my art in my last year of school, you can literally bullshit your explanation to why you made what you made and get top marks for it if you sound profound enough.

[@poggers4392]

As an aspiring writer, seeing this just makes me sad. Theres a reason why specific books are chosen in english class.

[@solus8685]

Lmao same Like I was always saying "it doesn't have to be right or make sense, just make it look like it does"

[@Noah_7s]

If Jackson Pollock painting is upside down no one will ever know

[@Peter-yd2ok]

True

[@Straumnes]

That's part of why his art was so revolutionary.

[@MONALISA-ce2is]

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[@FatGouf]

@@Straumnes you'll call a discarded shit stained toiletpaper an art just because its from Pollock, there's nothing revolutionary about that.

[@michaelavanessian8558]

@@FatGouf putting a shit-stained toilet paper in an art museum would be objectively funny tho. Like Marcel Duchamp or something

[@kalisto_2007]

His paintings are like NFTs, they have such high value, even though they're just effortless pieces of crap, but even these shitty pngs have more effort put into than his art.

[@cyberneticxylem9614]

I am fully convinced that art from character artists or concept artists should be in museums.

[@Thesamurai1999]

@@cyberneticxylem9614 Exactly! But it requires effort and discipline to achieve that, which these gallery artist don't have.

[@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395]

There’s scams in all trades

[@greylaw2546]

"What you see is what you see" has the same energy as “The floor is made out of floor” except its not a meme and an actual grown man said it unironically

[@trystanclemenceau2071]

"The floor here is made out of floor" seems more fitting

[@greylaw2546]

@@trystanclemenceau2071 I’ll add it

[@ZeLoShady]

There is truth to "What you see is what you see" as well as bullshit. When talking about Pollock, it makes a lot of sense. What you see IS what you see. When it comes to other artists in the abstract world, their art can try to hide things. Some abstract artists might use different shapes, patterns or textures to hide what is actually being painted. A good example is of a tattoo a friend has. The tattoo is of an AK-47 but every component of the gun is actually kitchen tools made to look like a gun. In that case, what you see ISN'T what you see. Another example would be a picture of donald trump composed of tiny pictures of random people using their different skin tones to "draw" trump. While there is a lot of pretentious shit in the art world, I do think the quote "You see what you see" makes sense in this situation.

[@flandyc4513]

@@ZeLoShady See why couldn't the other fella have said it this way? That at least could make logical sense to those who under appreciate and then we at least see where the point is coming from. Perhaps it would help if we'd had the chance for Pollock to do a Bob Ross where he talks and shows his mindset as he went along. Some people can see things easier after having it explained first after all.

[@ZeLoShady]

@@flandyc4513 I am not even in the art world that deep, I just don't go with my initial reaction to things. Initially, I was like, ya that quote is stupid as fuck but if you take a minute to actually use your brain and think (something most people don't do these days) than you will see the quote has meaning in this context. IN THIS CONTEXT. People also tend to leave context out of their thought s and opinions too.

[@KenoxProductions]

"What you see, is what you see." I understand this quote like this: There's no pretentiousness in the paintings, if you see a bunch of paint splattered on a canvas, it's literally a bunch of paint splattered on a canvas. No meaning. If that's what Frank was going for, I agree with the quote.

[@jevieyt]

Good explanation

[@parzavaal5335]

I oddly liked that weird ass splatter painting... I would buy it, not for 10,000 , but like 25-50 bucks (or however much the canvas costed)

[@KenoxProductions]

@@parzavaal5335 I think it would fit really well in a modern house, to be honest.

[@parzavaal5335]

@@KenoxProductions looks like winter camo too I noticed, lol

[@Necrometalfist]

Looks like the floor of a paint booth if it was never cleaned.

[@TimPortantno]

"Crying Dolphin Blue" Charlie needs to rename every color on a paint swatch, in the world's longest tier list video series

[@sakura-pq9xk]

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[@ChadThunderc0k]

@@sakura-pq9xk I finally got this joke

[@alejandrojimenez144]

"The paint is liquid" ah yes, the floor is made out of floor

[@ajaxorion]

There is good abstract art, like Pablo Picasso's chaos of barely recognizable facial features, or Salvador Dali's surreal pieces. And there is good minimalist art, like Paul Rand's simple and direct graphic designs, or Picasso (again) and his use of four lines to draw a woman's backside or his bull painting. When you combine both and put no effort in, you get splatters of paint going for millions.

[@gabopaz9693]

Dali wasn’t a great painter but rather a personality

[@rodrigoperes3336]

@@gabopaz9693 Dali used to say that he was too smart to be a good painter, and if he became dumb and skillful, he would die earlier

[@jmdoza3938]

Don't forget Rothko or Miro

[@pepinillorick5741]

Yeah i think the shitty art that shouldnt be acknoledgue as art is that one that a complete todler could do, like the blank "paint" or the stains of paint. When you talk Picasso, you see something that takes skill and makes sense, any kind of art can be good if it has skill and meaning in it.

[@TenderNoodle]

@@rodrigoperes3336 Dali must not have heard of da Vinci then lol, he was a skilled painter and incredibly smart💀

[@rasechoss8415]

See, I enjoy abstract art. I don’t know why, but I always have. What I don’t enjoy, however, is people trying to give paint splatter a deeper meaning than it being just a mishmash of colors that looks neat. That’s all it is, a cool looking mesh of colors. I don’t understand why art needs to have some sort of deeper meaning to it

[@noashaham5438]

Thank you

[@taelib1425]

You can't feel better than everyone else for liking/owning it if it doesn't have a deeper meaning

[@ashleybrooke2087]

And if it has some artistic value to you, that makes sense. I think the problem arises when people condescendingly explain why something is art to them & why others lack their insight or say things like "what you see is what you see" like it's some kind of hidden wisdom. It's not the art so much as the fandom.

[@markbotefur4936]

Because some people actually have different feelings when looking at it. I think interpretation doesn't work everywhere tho.

[@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά]

But paying 50 grand for that is moronic right?

[@jacker9358]

It's just disgusting that most people will work their entire life and not have anywhere near as much money as these people

[@smoothcream7097]

The "fine" art world is literally just for money laundering purposes at this point. Same with most charities.

[@WoodenWizard]

it is disgusting, but is life all about getting rich? also, there are way more artists drowning in student debt than artists who are getting rich. its like 1/10,000 artists will be successful. its a lot like the struggling youtuber scene, but worse. this anti-art sentiment in this comment section, and in this video rest on a huge strawman.

[@confusedaf1112]

Not to mention there are artists on like art twitter who actually draw really amazing shit and they get hounded just for charging 30$ a commission But these people make millions off blank canvases

[@polkunus]

These artists dont get a mere percent of the paintings that are being sold this much. The money doenst go to the artists, it goes to collectors jacking eachother off

[@TylerG13]

Okay, make something as cool looking as the paintings at 7:20

[@isabellegray2338]

The best abstract art I've ever seen was a painting that appeared entirely black from a distance, but was actually bunch of small squares of different colours that looked black when put next to each other. At least that painting rewards the viewer for taking the time to look closely at it.

[@johnclark926]

“When paint dries, is it a liquid?” -Jackson Pollock, right before writing the 10 Commandments

[@thegrandnil764]

Art has turned into zen koans, and if you dont like it, dont look at it.

[@novanay8000]

All of these people finding deeper meanings in this art never outgrew their phase of thinking they were super deep and that made them smarter then everyone else

[@cannoli_aoli]

Brilliant observation.

[@wildbill9863]

16 years old but forever

[@greedgreed4411]

Offt, that comment hit me like a truck. Damn I thought I was special, I thought I was profound, but I guess not.

[@DamianSzajnowski]

Meaning can be found in a piece of shit, not unsimilar to Zen way. But the meaning is not derived from a painting but within you. So in that you are right - attributing thought provoking news to an art piece might be a stretch already.

[@edgarcardiff7874]

seethe

[@blubxtch8380]

I usually don't hate on art, but as an artist I really hate modern art like this. Art is a craft with endless possibility for learning and improvement, there's always more skills to learn and practice, and your works should show your development as an artist and a person. So when someone spatters paint on a canvas and sells it for millions,it disrespects the very nature of art. It's not expressive,or skillful,or meaningful in any way, and it hurts to see it held in such high regard.

[@Sandwich_People]

Somebody can buy a canvas from somewhere, literally do nothing to it, and sell it for like 10 million dollars or something.

[@AleksandarBell]

@LonelyG33k yeah the creator of that was a massive troll and ate the banana lol

[@ninjafrog6966]

@LonelyG33k the person who did that mainly did it to prove the point that modern art is a scam. He ate the banana afterwards

[@ninjafrog6966]

@@AleksandarBell dude’s goal was literally to show people that modern art is a scam

[@AleksandarBell]

@@ninjafrog6966 yeah and I love him for that it was hilarious

[@NoNameX_X0]

1:10 I’d probably get tired and sit on that chair without even realizing it IS the art.

[@finalfroggitapproaches6418]

I’m convinced modern art is like The Emperor’s New Clothes. Deep down everyone knows he’s naked, but only the wisest of men can see the clothes (that aren’t there), so everyone just goes with it and doesn’t challenge the emperor for being nude. Nobody wants to admit they can’t see the clothes, and nobody wants to admit that modern art is stupid.

[@T-minus-infinite]

Well the people who want to appear distinguished dont want to admit it anyway, but ordinary people without reputations to lose are willing to admit it

[@brainchutney8576]

@Wicker 2 "Resonating" or eliciting an emotional response does does make something better, and is utilized in classic artworks and literature throughout history, even in things like sculptures and architecture. Meaning and technical skill aren't mutually exclusive when it comes to good art. The problem is modern art doesn't have meaning or emotion to it, the shitty artist who made it just says so and people take his word for it.

[@aravindkm2012]

@Fucking grass It's subjective just as how a pile of dogshit is. The act of stepping on that pile of dogshit and the reaction may be subjective but the objective truth is that its a pile of shit.

[@dylanjbiss]

@Wicker 2 I agree with your views on this... but I'm also laughing at your comments because they're written like you're doing a response for a discussion board in an online college class 🤣

[@gileee]

@Wicker 2 To be clear I'm not a fan of modern art either, but technical ability only matters in the sense that it allows you to bring your artistic vision from your imagination into the real world more accurately. Someone can paint a photorealistic painting of an apple and it takes a lot of technical mastery to do so (although it was more important in the past when people didn't walk with actual cameras in their pockets), but I'd rather look at a less technically perfect, but epic painting of a huge battlefield or something. *Because* it elicits a strong emotional response in me. Artistic skill is important, but it's an objective measure. Art is everything that is not objective. At points your arguments make it sound like all art is bad, because it can be applied to everything. Also, your plagiarism argument means nothing.

[@pizzaparker7480]

I’m not a fan of Jackson Pollock, but I think that he was a good painter, he just chose to make a bunch of bullshit. Look up his painting “Going West” if you wanna see something he put effort into.

[@rodrigogomes2064]

I mean, he couldve been at it for hours on the drip paintings. Efort doesnt rly matter.

[@MrYelly]

If "Going West" is his best work, I can understand why he is only making a bunch of bullshit

[@martinsergo6108]

I will never understand the appeal of "expressive" paintings that just look like someone nutted on the canvas. To each their own but I feel like it requires zero skill or talent. So much of art just feels like it's art because someone said it was. I have to respect anyone who can sell some random bullshit painting for a fortune though.

[@loseljukes5204]

The deep is his best painting

[@markbotefur4936]

@@MrYelly it's not his best work.

[@doubledeckertoaster8697]

“Jackson Pollock’s paintings really make you feel like you’re Jackson Pollock” -IGN probably idfk

[@sillyfegart5455]

10 / 10

[@prettylittlelandfill7597]

the exaggerated swagger of a Jackson Pollock

[@BadPilotGuy]

Modern art: Who are you? Paintings of portraits, scenery ,backgrounds etc: *You but better.*

[@Shades781]

As an artist I feel insulted that a circle on a canvas is considered worth more than an anime pencil drawing.

[@palanthas7063]

Yep. Anime and furry art is waaaaay better than 90% of what you see in modern "art" galleries...

[@nitabagels6969]

Oh man I agree. I've been drawing anime for years and I think that artworks in an anime style is much better than whatever the hell is in this video Charlie watched. How can scribbles be considered art but a detailed drawing of a girl in anime style is not? It doesn't make sense. Art is art and anime is just a form of cartoonist style

[@Shades781]

@@nitabagels6969 I wonder if I can get an anime boy drawing into a high art museum.

[@arjenbij]

@@palanthas7063 my god.

[@palanthas7063]

@@arjenbij yes?

[@FjpTheDon]

"But what Pollock does is just present us with paint as paint. He was the first person to do this." My 6 year old cousin in art class would like to disagree.

[@fredswolen894]

Your cousin still did it after Pollock. Your joke, I see it, but you just failed it.

[@josephwoo69]

You do realize Jackson Pollock’s paintings are way older than your 6 year old cousin, right?

[@FjpTheDon]

@@josephwoo69 i was high when i made this i can't care less

[@prototypeinheritance515]

honestly you're being overly reductive. there's a lot to enjoy in a drip painting: it's sheer size, the overall composition, the choice of color and the energy of the strokes. you could view these as the essence of the art, a condensed form with all superfluous elements like the depicting real subjects or perspective being removed. in a way this still takes skill. but that's beside the point, you don't have to like abstract art but try not to be so reductive; there are elements you might not enjoy or even gloss over that others do appreciate and enjoy; that's why art is so subjective. in the end every painting can be reduced to "spots of paint on a canvas", but what these "atoms" mean is unique to each person in the end.

[@doomakarn]

I genuinely want to see Charlie unironically, but also ironically make modern art and just see what happens.

[@TylerG13]

It wouldn’t look anywhere near as impressive as the paintings at 7:20. I promise buddy

[@mehmzay3022]

8:09 the short pause before he paused the video and held his head was beutiful. When someone says something this profoundly stupid it legitimately takes a moment to really process and its on full display here.

[@regularfern]

I tell you, the real artists these days aren’t in museums. They’re in our movies, our video games, and our tv shows. Those underpaid artists who make gorgeous sceneries, and worlds you explore.

[@codgod5238]

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[@davidchu2001]

amen to that

[@yeetus8870]

Thank you!

[@alissacheck4194]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[@tricko8000]

Also in manga/comic books, like Kentaro Miura, Takehiko Inoue, Alex Ross, Jim Lee, etc.

[@thenoraiofoni3016]

if you think that this is scam read thus: "In May 1961, while he was living in Milan, Piero Manzoni produced ninety cans of Artist's Shit. Each was numbered on the lid 001 to 090. Tate's work is number 004. A label on each can, printed in Italian, English, French and German, identified the contents as '"Artist's Shit", contents 30gr net freshly preserved, produced and tinned in May 1961.'" I went to Manchester art gallery a few years ago and they were excited to have a display of a dozen or so can's of said artist's shit. A pile of brown hued sealed tin cans indeed filled with poop.

[@ENDERBOSSPURPLE]

if i'm not too wrong some people even opened it up and apparently it was just some random stuff, i forgot what it was now, i think there was some concrete? but the problem is who opened these cans?

[@Boredman567]

Best part is that the cans were first priced as worth their wight in gold. Manzoni created the greatest shitpost in art history.

[@gdog8170]

oh my god

[@voxlity]

@@ENDERBOSSPURPLE If that's true, then it's the most genius art shitpost of all time.

[@angelinageorgy]

@@Boredman567 literally the most expensive shit post

[@SteveBob104]

2:37 Charlie has an epiphany. This transcends even Pollock himself; a feat we never thought possible...

[@BuzzSahas]

😂😂😂

[@taddybear4244]

I adore art even if only for the context of it. I want to know the history of the artist, the world they lived in, and all of the DSM-5 diagnoses we can retroactively apply to them.

[@twfaucet]

Yeah but someone the art sucks and has no effort

[@somegirl4631]

As an artist that actually works 40 hours for one piece (all styles including realism) and gets nothing, modern art feels like they personally attack my 15 years of hard work that went into improving my art. It’s mentally painful to even look at this.

[@madmaximum875]

Well, that's why you get nothing

[@somegirl4631]

@@madmaximum875 TRUE. 😂😭

[@sirnick12]

I hate realism, but where can I find your pieces? And what topics do you touch upon in your works? Just whatever, or do you have some favourite?

[@struttux5156]

In their hearts they know they are nothing and will be punished in hell for their scam

[@velvetbees]

Don't listen to negativity. You have my respect for your hard work.

[@hacim42]

If there's a reward in viewing a white canvas, then why don't they look at the section of white wall right next to it? It's white, and it's painted. Why doesn't modern art just have walls? No more art, just walls.

[@voxlity]

I actually really like that idea. Strip down minimalism even harder. Blank canvases replaced with the blank walls of the museum. Alternatively you'd have """carefully""" splattered walls of paint. Some abstract paintings rely on a huge canvas and a wall is basically the largest it can be. But perhaps this hilarious form of minimalism isn't being done because that kind of art can't be sold off. The wall would be stuck in a museum.

[@casshernsins8333]

@@voxlity let me do you one farther. Let’s just get rid of all contemporary art museums. The pinnacle of minimalistic art

[@therealbubble4696]

@@casshernsins8333 You walk into the museum and its just completly empty, actually, fuck it, the entire museum is gone, its just the floor.

[@cyberneticxylem9614]

I swear that's actually a thing... I remember seeing it in a book or on a museum website. I can't remember if it's in New York or somewhere in California though.

[@twiddydinks7938]

@@therealbubble4696 floor? That's too much. Just use the ground and charge $40 to look

[@MoronicMinds]

Jackson Pollock actually painted more normal stuff before 1940 when he started to shitpost in a way that nobody really had done before, sort of like when punk rock started to ignore the "rules" of rock music. Nowadays it's seen as pretentious overhyped bs, but it's unfair to blame bad expressionist paintings on someone who just wanted to try something new.

[@gsly6081]

Yeah what comes next and tries to copy the original without giving any twist, usually is just shite. At least he was the revolutionary in that sense, just like the punk or grunge bands were.

[@Peksisarvinen]

Punk rock never ignored the laws of music though. All of it was done following the same schematics most music uses. It would be a better comparison if punk had been played completely off-beat and sung off-key, with instruments replaced by people taking diarrhea shits and armpit farts.

[@blueberrryy]

Some drip paintings by him are really cool tbh. There’s a solar sands video on it if you’re interested

[@MONALISA-ce2is]

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[@conductive9409]

I drew a dot. As you can see, the dot took a lot of patience and time. To draw the dot, I had to open my door, walk down the staircase as head towards a shop. I then buy the paint and brush to bring it home. I took a brush and dropped it. And there you have it, a dot. I am selling the painting for 50k.

[@JackalJack412-ej8og]

I'll buy it for 100k!

[@OmegaXyo]

"What you see, is what you see" - absolutely changed my perspective on life

[@arthurhenderson2214]

I saw what I saw... Tbf it makes sense. Lol

[@sakura-pq9xk]

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[@samuelhowarth6571]

Lukewarm take: Jackson Pollock was pretty good. His splatter paintings were only a small part of his career, just the most famous part. Check out his other works if interested. Edit: Lots of people are saying 'famous people can do whatever and call it art.' There's a nugget of truth to that, but Pollock's splatter paintings MADE him famous, so that logic doesn't really work in his case.

[@arthurius_3022]

@@chanr9531 shut up redditor

[@Ed.strell]

So true he is a very talented artist and I personally really like all of his paintings. I like critical but he needs to actually research the artist before calling him a scam

[@jgf4224]

I've seen a video about some guy who sold an "invisible sculpture" (aka literal air) for 18k who is actually a decent artist so I believe you

[@anthonynguyen7477]

@@Ed.strell he may have some amazing pieces, i dont really know, but the point of this video is to show that if your name is big enough, you could shit on a canvas and it would sell for millions

[@mushroomjesus2068]

Yeah I hate peoples take on art.

[@Meta9871]

"But what Pollock does is just present us with paint as paint. He was the first person to do this." THAT'S LITERALLY JUST "THIS IS NOT A PIPE" BUT WITHOUT EVEN TRYING

[@codgod5238]

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[@sydious_s_snake]

I desperately want to find your profile picture now fission lmao

[@greeny6462]

@@codgod5238 nah you did not just link your nuke clip💀

[@emberdragon4248]

When people believe there is a hidden meaning behind something, they're going to find it. Our brains will create the meaning. That's what these "artists" take advantage of. They let YOU come up with a meaning to their art, then they will pretend that the interpretation that your brain created was the original intended meaning behind the piece, which also takes advantage of one's desire to feel smart by "figuring it out". That's how they convince people that their art is good.

[@JackalJack412-ej8og]

That isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[@nappa1413]

@@JackalJack412-ej8og it most certainly is, in most cases

[@altonkatz2041]

I went to fine art school for sculpture because I want to be a prop designer, but what blew my mind was how insular the community is and how everyone made art all about themselves that no one else could hope to care about. Those people are very narcissistic

[@weebsquit347]

"I call this one: bold and brash"

[@pogtopus1944]

@@weebsquit347 "More like: belongs in the trash" GHAHAHAHA

[@thegaminggecko1212]

8:15 Same energy as “people die when they are killed!”

[@12zander45]

There is nothing more pretentious and condescending than art people talking about modern art

[@Michelrs]

technically that is CONTEMPORARY art, not modern.

[@12zander45]

Aw naw. An art person found me

[@Michelrs]

@@12zander45 nope

[@wowalamoiz9489]

Like Charlie is here? Yes, I deliberately misinterpreted what you said

[@doggerlander]

regular people shitting on modern art can also get very snobbish.

[@aldrinmilespartosa1578]

Art schools really set their art expectation so low when one of the drop out almost conquered Europe

[@finnthehuman8865]

Underrated comment

[@diceandcards8272]

The thing abt Jackson Pollock is he started a revolution that he didn't mean or want to and now he gets absolutely blasted after his death for it, he made actual art but unfortunately also made shit, knew it was shit, and made everyone else follow him

[@Drakonus_]

Art basically went from a God tier way to express yourself to garbage money laundering schemes. And the worst part is that modern art "artists' chose to follow the latter, even if they aren't doing the illegal stuff.

[@prodxJJ]

i saw you on a memepage

[@Drakonus_]

@@prodxJJ Wait, which one?

[@Drakonus_]

@@prodxJJ What was the meme?

[@niyandrey]

@basic biatch some of the artists really do put thought into their work, sadly it's always overrated in price and thus inescapably hard to judge by its merit. This goes for basically anything that is commodified. Luxury and affordable housing in the same area literally depends on the price they ask for it; modern high fashion pieces, while not always tasteless, are always unaffordable, while following the same trends as "pleb fashion"; toys, merchandise and etc. are literally useless stuff to consume, but their price goes up according to the perceived value of the brand/associated group. Modern art can be bad, but it's not fucked up (mostly) in and of itself. It's the system that is.

[@rixxamazing3922]

Reminds me of this artist who actually got famous for vomitting onto a canvas. He’d swallow a shit ton of food dye and purposely make himself wretch up the food coloring onto a blank canvas. And it actually made him somewhat famous

[@Ay-cd1kk]

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[@WoahSpookySkeletons]

@PhoenixScarab43 Alt source

[@carla-bi4ye]

@@WoahSpookySkeletons it's their own copypasta; none of it is true

[@RWAsur]

So, that's where I get some people won't "get it" and that's fine. Nobody is obligated to get anything anyone does. I think I'd understand that as part of performance art, though. There's a guy in the 80s who was popular for his art called "Piss Christ" which was a crucifix in a jar of his own urine. And he was very Christian too. There's also a wonderful artist who lost his arms in war and paints with his big toe. They're not spectacular but they're still remarkable. Sometimes art is more about the "how" than they are about the result. Art is like dragons- every culture has it, every culture has a different interpretation and value of it, everyone thinks some of it is cool, and nobody can fucking agree what it actually is.

[@spiralhalo]

"The art is made of art." -Sun Tzu, the War of War

[@pagansbasin6657]

Modern art is just a prettier way rich people evade taxes

[@Mikazuchireborn]

Really stretching the word 'prettier' right there...

[@MrWeebs-gc2jj]

@Fax no one cares lmao

[@jgf4224]

Pretty? No Efficient? Maybe Effective? Most likely Hotel? Trivago

[@gabe_digg]

Yeah I saw a video that explains this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX2UkqFvf7pmhM0

[@bubba99009]

When you sell your spatter painting at Sotheby's they will report the exact amount of the sale to the IRS so you have to declare the gain as ordinary income or capital gains - so it is not even that great at that. Even ebay starts reporting to the IRS once you hit a certain sales threshold.

[@cactuscolony]

I really like Jackson Ps art. But I don’t see it as “deep” or “meaningful” at all. I see it as a canvas that a guy went crazy nasty wild and threw some paint on and created a lil chaos art thing, and that’s why I like it (besides how it looks). :)

[@codicon6132]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM .

[@oonkymppa5923]

That's the point. That's literally the point.

[@ohwow9870]

Yeah, it just looks cool. There doesn’t have to be some painstaking process for it to be considered art, that idea is really stupid.

[@cactuscolony]

I love modern art for that reason. It’s art, but you can just go feral. The pretentious “it must have a deep meaning” side is just stupid and limits you so much. I just like to look at the weird fun shapes and shit. Go crazy stupid feral.

[@Jay14dagoat]

@@codicon6132 what is it?

[@Obscuredinsight]

There's an italian sculptor who literally sold nothing for 150K.

[@dudeguyrockfan]

A line from persona 5 "the value of art is merely an illusion......."

[@sirfishalot7569]

I don’t like the fact people sell art for millions of dollars when it’s literally nothing. But I like the idea of just doing shit on a canvas and people finding a meaning in it. Like if I shit on the ground and put it in a museum then it would be art for the sole purpose of people looking at it like it’s a revolution discovery in the art world. What you see is what you see, and what you see is my shitty poopoo on the ground.

[@jonathanathor117]

So Taco bell and Chipotle can make you a multi millionaire.

[@MangoVIII]

Man really said "shitty poopoo" lmao

[@catmririw6939]

LMAOASFSFDJFKSLSJ This comment hurt my stomach STAAHP🤣🤣🤣

[@syomchi]

I am actually pretty sure, there is a piece of art, that is actually a piece of fake shit

[@syomchi]

So it's called gold plate poop. And it is massive but it's actually pretty cool

[@abombinationad5374]

Art has gone the way of memes. From things that make sense and are understandable, to abstract and confusing deep fried shit.

[@epicgamer2820]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM .

[@HeavyHebi]

What shit memes do your friends have to make you think this? I feel like its a common opinion that deep-frying images isn't funny. Most popular memes aren't even abstract so Idk what tf you're talking about.

[@cptguerreiro1253]

@@HeavyHebi can you spell "sus" backwords?

[@rdd2s403]

We’ve come full circle with NFTs

[@noashaham5438]

You’re joking, but that is actually true. Modern art is just funny: I understand the exaggerated prices are upsetting, but to see someone genuinely get angry bc of a toilet in a museum is hilarious.

[@Ghost_The_Mercenary2948]

Art school frickin killed my passion for art on a massive scale. Imma keep this personal story as short as I can Junior year highschool (I've graduated this year) I was not feeling like drawing one day before critique so I decided to throw in one of my Arma 3 virtual photography pieces that I made on my potato laptop (took 1 hour to get it) and was mercilessly flooded with accusations of plagiarism from the vast majority of my classmates and so did the teacher, this could result in legal actions from what I was told. and what makes it worse is that I made all my work inside the classroom alongside these dicks for 3 years and they started calling me a thief out of the blue? Fell to a deep depression because from then on my work was no longer validated and wasn't even looked at, and after graduation I'm doing credit recovery to acquire my diploma, still walked the stage but almost there to get my diploma. Moral of the story: don't trust art classes and don't ever participate in critiques, because that shit can kill you academically and emotionally, normally criticism doesn't phase me, but being accused of theft and that resulting in failing junior and senior year of art for what 10 students said ( freshman year started with 30 students, so many left, I can see why ) that influenced a teacher's opinion of a student's work authenticity Struggling to find the motivation but slowly making my way back up

[@newportangels]

hey man, I'm an artist as well whos gone thru a similar rough spot to u (not bc of art school tho that sounds fucking horrid) I always see art as doing it for you and no one else. Obviously its easier said then done when deep scars like that are left on you from something you were passionate about. Just start drawing beacuse you want to like, u see something that inspires you? you like a character? you want to draw a self protrait? or maybe even redraw really old art u did as a kid, just for funsies. Fuck the art world honestly art should always just be about having fun and putting your thoughts onto your canvas. I believe in you man, that shit should have never happened to you, or anyone really. I think you will find joy in art again once you find a reason to get that motivation and enjoyment from it. I like to think once an artist always an artist, so no matter how much time you spend away from it you will always be able to go back and pick up where you left off. Sometimes taking a break even helps your art! You just never know. Good luck out there :)

[@user-pr6gn2un8z]

@@newportangels wow...your words really helped me. I feel like my art wasn't that good because I got single digit likes everytime I post. But you made me feel like its okay to be not popular :)

[@newportangels]

@@user-pr6gn2un8z im not popular with my online art either aha, its good 2 know this helped u out a lil tho! keep it up art shouldnt be about who many ppl see it, it should really be about if it made u feel like u enjoyed ur time on it, even if u didnt u still learnt something!

[@MaxwelloftheClocktower]

my art teacher killed my love for drawing during my GCSEs because she wouldn't except anything we did as excellent or even good unless it was exactly what her Sixth Form class was putting out. Bear in mind, the test was to choose our own medium. In fact she refused to grade several peoples work because she didn't see the pieces as relevant. Thanks to that experience I can't draw like I used to without thinking it's shit and it's not worth it so I can sort of relate a bit

[@user-zq1vg8xm1p]

Damn bro, good luck on your future endeavors. Hope you don't give up on art :D

[@cici35official19]

I remember a story about the local modern art gallery at my college where someone dropped their keys on the floor and didn’t notice it. People started taking pictures of the keys on the floor and tried to interpret the meaning behind them. I swear when my friend told me that coffee shot out my nose from trying to hold in my laughter.

[@auroradias1989]

Con-artistry is an art and I would say these people are making masterpeices.

[@Lysergic_]

Eh, the look of art isn't the only thing that values it. If Joe Biden made an absolutely shitty piece of art, it'd still sell for millions. Because Joe Biden made it, and if it's shitty enough it'll hold significance through controversy/reports on it making it relevant. Which means if it's shitty enough it'll be remembered for a long-time. A painting so shitty it sticks with a presidents reputation. That's just one example on how shitty art makes millions.

[@Lysergic_]

@PhoenixScarab43 Alt hey buddy you got reading comprehension? This is an important discussion you're interrupting I'll have you arrested!

[@arachnijesus]

@@Lysergic_ / he’s tryna get people to view his YT and farm video views. don’t expect reading comprehension from bait lol

[@stealthysaucepan2016]

Sussy profile pic

[@Lysergic_]

@@arachnijesus I know I was just messing around to deter people from falling from it. My logic is they read something dumb than something dumber and hopefully by now we've hit rock bottom Edit: got a phone call while typing and posted too early, anyways by reaching rock bottom it will be impossible for anyone to fall for it

[@mysticwolf1358]

i remember in art class in hs i made a “jackson pollock” type painting and then had to write a paper on it. let me tell you that was some of the most fun i had in that class. it took zero effort to actually make the painting. it took like 20 minutes including the time it took to mix paint colors and get all the materials together. and the paper i wrote was just bs about a deeper meaning that my teacher just ate up. all in all, i really enjoyed it bc i felt like a toddler just slapping paint around. it took no talent but i actually kinda liked how it looked lol. it was really dumb but i had a good time

[@fatneek6569]

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[@WolfyboiRTCT]

I always thought about a scenario like this! It actually worked for you!?!?

[@mysticwolf1358]

@@WolfyboiRTCT yeah i still have the painting too

[@snowdevil002]

I finally found it, the only freethinking person in the youtube comments section

[@holidayin7962]

Yeah it’s fun to make a mess sometimes.

[@smasica]

It's never a question of talent or ability. All that matters is getting one wealthy sucker to like your work. They'll brag to their friends about how much they paid for it. Not to be out done, the friend will buy a piece for a higher price just to one-up their friend. Now a sharp gallery operator realizes he's got a couple live ones on the line and plays up the so-called artist's work to make more sales. The gallery operator finagles some media attention to create more buzz and soon the 'artist' is pulling down six figures for his 'art'. Wash, rinse, repeat. I'm 73 and have been painting off and on since the early 70s. I see this crap all the time in all genres of art. Size also sells, the bigger the piece the more attention it gets in a show. You can spend six months or a year on a 10" by 14" painting that's stunning. Yet some 4' by 6' stain on plywood will get all the attention. Charlie said everything I've felt for years. If you have to spend more than two minutes explaining a piece, it ain't art, it's bait for suckers and rubes.

[@henrijs1733]

ego one-upmanship

[@tohaovershell]

I’m an artist too and this is why I refused to go to art school or sell my art. The mainstream art world (the one you can profit on, atleast) is so pretentious and filled with nepotism. I went to a high school that had a lot of art programs and it was filled with really rich kids who got tons of attention for lackluster work. I decided then, nah I’ll just do this for me lol. Not saying I’m better than them or anything it just made me realize who you know and how much money you have is all that really matters in that world: It’d feel like selling my soul if I tried to “make something” of myself. I have respect for people who sell nonsense on a giant canvas for tons of money though honestly haha. Easiest money ever

[@monsterdinosaur3149]

“What you see, is what you see” “every 60 seconds in africa, a minute passes”

[@codgod5238]

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[@MONALISA-ce2is]

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[@beserchi2548]

that first painting had one “cool” aspect: the fact that it looks greyscale until you get close to it. super dumb painting but that’s a pretty cool illusion, you can’t lie

[@ftseo]

it is, but it’s not something unique to him. it’s been used by so many people before, from van gogh to aboriginal tribes. jackson polluck is not the first to do something, and he never will be. he was just the first to get famous by doing what everyone else did, but lazily. it’s cool, but.. it’s used everywhere. if you squint hard enough at a printed picture, you can see the different colours used to make it what it is. its not very innovative, it doesn’t hold any meaning, it doesn’t tell a story, and it’s just not very interesting. i have more fun squinting at the pixels on the science diagrams i print out for school than i do looking at jackson polluck’s artwork. sorry if this came off as aggressive towards you - it’s not meant to be ! i’m generally angry at jackson polluck’s lovers. i’m not even that mad at polluck himself, he’s just dripping paint and having fun. anyway, sorry again if i seemed rude or condescending at all , it wasn’t my intention . just saw an oppurtunity to talk abt something that i was upset by so i Took it . have a lovely day

[@akbarkhairy4485]

Yes . Problem is it's fucking overrated

[@bergorreynisson9520]

"Journey through a specific part of Norway" She literally painted Iceland, not Norway...

[@Zouly]

As an norwegian, i laughed my ass off when she said she was painting «norway».

[@bergorreynisson9520]

@@Zouly Same here, only I'm Icelandic haha

[@Scarletkingcowboy]

That's why it's deep, she is staking Norways historic claim on Iceland.

[@King_of_Gamers2099]

8:42 two other good comparisons are “People die when they are killed” and “Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes”

[@cyuleba]

"If you can make a shit shine enough, you can make millions" -Cheloo

[@watema3381]

_Sun Tzu*, probably_

[@cyuleba]

@@watema3381 no

[@Holybeast1234]

Yeah but shining a piece of turd takes skill

[@Paxindica96]

"Modern art makes you ask...why?" Yeah, why's this thing exist?

[@pee-bot]

Why *is* this thing exist? ???

[@Velkin999]

All art requires context. It's about the story. Paying ridiculous amounts of money for it is only for people who want to avoid taxes.

[@orpheus0108]

No. There is art and then there is pretentious garbage. The only context should be the art itself

[@ianduarte1992]

That is of course ignpring completely the idea that art should offer any aesthetic experience, context is irrelevant to art, what matters is what it co tains.

[@napkinx4341]

there is no story in random shit splat over something i’ll get a story from actual art not this crap

[@josephwoo69]

@@orpheus0108 “The only context should be the art itself”. What a single digit IQ opinion. I think we can agree that just because a some kid in their parents’ basement today can replicate the same sound of music as The Beatles did and make it near identical in quality, doesn’t mean that kid is as great as The Beatles. Because what made the Beatles’ music great was the historical context of the 1960s rock n roll counterculture, which the kid in his basement is merely copying because it’s easy to copy what already happened. The same goes for visual arts. If you only look at the art itself and disregard any context, then you’ll be giving the same amount of credit to unoriginal copycats as you are to truly talented, forward thinking artists.

[@orpheus0108]

@@josephwoo69 You are getting confused with originality and context. Art isn't good because it was made during a certain era or trend. It becomes popular because it is good and has some degree of originality , which sometimes will be original and good enough to set new trends. The beatles can still be enjoyed today because it is fundementally good art. The sound is no longer original so of course a kid doesn't become famous if he copies already existing beatles songs. However, building upon established forms of art while being original can result in good art that is not just a copy. The kid can use the same sound as the beatles to create his own unique art. It's good because we know that form of art he is taking inspiration from is good but he also adds originality to it by not copying songs. Funny you mention the beatles because the popular band Tame Impala started with a very similar sound to the beatles with their own personal twist to it. You can insult my IQ but it doesn't seem like your high IQ is put to work very often. edit: By the way, I hate to break it to you but no artist is %100 original.

[@chrisbieske8117]

I am an artist and I hate modern art. It makes me look stupid and I don’t even do that kind of art.

[@huh5007]

I highly doubt you’ve studied the principles of art and design or art history lol. Being anti-modern art is anti-intellectual.

[@simplepointstudio6210]

@@huh5007 Are you a redditor?

[@chrisbieske8117]

@@simplepointstudio6210 aw you beat me to it bro! lol

[@TheSilentWalkerz]

@@simplepointstudio6210He also likes Lolis. Look at his weeb profile pic 😂

[@COctagons]

I miss the old days of art, where artists used to have and show off their skills. All the classical artists who painted near-photorealistic pieces depicting the rise and fall of mankind, or surrealists showing us the most balls-to-the-wall acid trips perceptible to the human mind... And now you can just buy a cheap object, nail it to a wall, and become a millionaire. Wait, why aren't I doing this shit...?!!

[@bloopboop9320]

All of the artists who still do that kind of work are the ones who work in the entertainment industry whether is be concept artists for video games, movies, animation, commercials, etc. Movies and video games require people to paint, design, sculpt, write music, and execute a message through a visual medium which makes media the evolutionary progression of "traditional art". Contemporary art should not be compared to traditional art or even fine art. It's conceptual and that's about it.

[@SeIfishmachines]

Honestly. It sucks now people who paint random scribbles with paint get bunch money and are rich. But people who work hard to make hyper realistic and beautiful art barely get attention or pay

[@edwardteach1992]

There's artstation bro. Art has many branches and this one in the vid are more on the fine arts side.

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

There's plenty of artists who make photographic paintings. The problem is that they're boring. Even in the wonderful never existing past artists played with colours, saturation and even perspective At certain point optical illusions were popular

[@COctagons]

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 That's not the whole point I was making, just one example. A TL;DR, if you will. I'm aware that good artists still exist, who make interesting and highly-skilled work that looks nice too... But, most skilled artists aren't the ones making millions and billions, because the "art" world would rather spend forever over-analysing a banana taped to a wall or a literal pile of shit. Just like all else these days, it's about who you know, not what you can do.