PENN AND TELLER MOST CONTROVERSIAL MAGICIAN WHO FOOLED!

[@dirt_kevin]

I would love to hear what Penn and Teller have to say on this

[@breezybaby6430]

"Do you have a father?" "Yes." "You...are correct." *MAGIC*

[@pinetree4600]

WTF?? Penn and Teller were not even impressed, much less fooled.

[@SDesWriter]

Actually they spoke highly of the trick and how nicely it was done. Penn seemed to believe he had it figured out but couldn't find a way to verify it without disclosing the trick so they just gave him the trophy. But we never did get to find out if what Penn thought was correct or not.

[@DevilWearsAdidas]

its very important to note that the judges hear everything and know exactly how the tricks are done prior to the magician coming out. If penn is saying something he thinks it is, and they dont quite have everything figured out completely, it counts as a fooler. Again they are not the best magicians in the world, they are just hosting a show for entertainment. They even say this in one of the episodes.

[@ineffecient8243]

So for anyone curious about how this was done and why it was called, here's my armchair analysis: How the trick is done: There are 3 decks of cards . This is proven because 3x18 is about 50, and if there were only 2 stacks, one would be need to be significantly larger than the other. One is Given to Penn. One is given to teller. One is in his coat. He has the one in his coat memorized. Penn shuffles, hands the cards back, Ivan switches it for the one in his pocket and hands it out. His cards are in the following order 1XX2XX3XX4XX5XX6XX. When he hands them out 3 at a time, he guarantees 1 will be with group 1, 2 will be with group 2 etc. Now it doesn't matter how people shuffle because he will only be calling out the Xs. After all the Xs sit, he knows the last one standing from group 1 has 1, the last standing in group 2 has 2 etc and can call them out. Finally, the cello was supposed to communicate something about Penn's card but something went wrong which is why he graciously recovered. What went wrong: Penn starts off using stats to prove he knows the people standing are not randomly placed. The odds of that happening would be about 1/2000. Ivan gets confused since he is not using statistics to determine the cards nor is he taking probability into account when calling out the states. He asks if he remembered they shuffled (which would make the odds of guessing it in order 1/720 and thus showing he's not using some stats trick). Penn starts to elaborate a little mentioning he knows something about the clumping and how the clumping is not random which is a lot of information for the audience to potentially figure it out. At this point, his explanation still doesn't make much sense in the context but it gives the audience a huge clue as to what's happening. Ivan still doesn't know if he knows about the memorization or the slight of hand so he still doesn't know if they're fooled. Penn starts to basically give it the whole trick away with the back turned comment and the 18 divides line so the judges quickly cut him off and say fooled. They were not fooled, and it was not corrupt. Ivan was confused and Penn was hinting poorly before completely overstepping what he should have said. At that point, he should have approached Ivan and whispered it in his ear instead of potentially spoiling the effect and revealing his trick to millions. The judges reacted quickly (and I think fairly) by declaring them fooled and thus, giving him a second opportunity to perform again.

[@joelsteverson]

Awesome analysis. I think you've got it.

[@saipawankumar5297]

Amazing!! Thanks

[@nandos1111]

I would have to disagree that it was fair to say they were fooled as they clearly weren't. He definitely knew what Penn was saying as I think everyone else in the audience did.

[@blisskrieg838]

While the judges are talking to Allison, Penn clearly says to Teller, "I don't know what else to say to him." Meaning, he didn't want to give the whole thing away to the audience, but the magician wasn't cooperating. Had the magician been more humble in accepting Penn's hints, the judges wouldn't need to intervene. A stolen trophy.

[@hemelinger7792]

Blisskrieg , no. The guy behind the scene, his name is in another comment answer here somewhere and refferred to as "the judges" or "the judge" knows how the trick works and hears everything Penn & Teller say to each other. This is to prevent the magician from lying, but also from revealing too much about the whole set-up. He will sometimes rule either way. Sometimes Teller walks up to the presenter and whispers with him also. That's probably, when the judge can't call yet, because they are still on track or wants to add some drama to the show.

[@hemelinger7792]

TheBrabon1 , yeah, they wouldn't miss a switch. Only one other explanation comes to my mind. However fools them gets to be on their show in Vegas. Don't know, if they've done it before, but they could theoretically pretend to be fooled to get the guy on their show.

[@blisskrieg838]

I think they knew how it was done, but maybe Penn just didn't give enough hints regarding how he was able to end up with the "clumps" he ended up with.

[@martyndyson9501]

So P&T try to explain to the magician that they weren't fooled while also not trying to ruin the trick for that magician or others who may want to use the trick in future? So the audience is kept in the dark every time for the integrity for magicians everywhere? I'm from the UK and I've never seen the program before ( I basically got click bated) however what a terrible concept! Someone needs dragging into the car park and beat to a pulp for this rubbish/garbage!

[@richardmahn7589]

We call it a parking lot here... or do we need to drag that person to Britain? heh

[@GeorgeRapko]

Illinois knew he was going to be called.

[@texasray5237]

The shuffled cards are placed on the stool 2:36 He turns his back to the audience and at the moment when the people on stage are standing up, and are therefore distracted, he crosses his arms reaches into his sleeve and palms a handful of pre-stacked cards 2:43 The pre-stacked cards are already in his right hand as he scoops the cards off of the stool with his left hand.and then, in plain sight, he adds the pre -stacked cards to the top of the stack so that the shuffled cards are on the bottom of the deck and will not be given out. 2:47-2:50 He simply passes out the pre-stacked cards in pre-determined batches and then calls out by memory all the cards of the pre-stacked groups except for one card from each group. Of course the remaining person from each group will have the card that was purposely not called out; Not much of a trick really. No real sleight of hand.

[@kimcornelissen1529]

Penn and Teller not stumped, however act refused to acknowledge he lost so judges intervene so Penn doesn't reveal how trick is done. There fixed the caption for you.

[@eriscyl]

Kim Cornelissen How do you know?

[@MrNerdSmasher]

Its obvious, penn was going deeper and deeper into the explanation to the point he was speaking plainly about its solution rather than remaining cryptic....

[@patrickswayze2596]

MrNerdSmasher agreed. Magic is all about illusion and mystique, and the entire principle of the show is too fool them and us, I almost was able to figure it out myself after some basic math but am still uncertain simply from that 18 hint Penn gave us!

[@havanafayre]

@@patrickswayze2596 Sorry, this will be long. First, he preselected 18 states. Then he handed them out in groups. To keep it simple, let's say he handed them out in groups of 3. He gave a different number of cards to the first person in each group, but the principle is the same (he knew which cards were in each group). In his preselected deck of 18, he knew which states were in each group of 3 before he handed them out. It doesn't matter which order they are in, so mixing them as they are passed down is irrelevant. If you hand 3 cards to the first person, 3 people will end up with those cards, the order doesn't matter. Now, group 1 might have California, Washington, and Oregon. The second group might have Arizona, Texas, and Oklahoma. And so on. At first he calls out every state except 1 in each group. So he says California, Washington, Arizona, Oklahoma, and so on. This leaves one person in each group that wasn't called. He deliberately skipped them. Now he goes back and finishes the "trick". He knows that the final card from group 1 is Oregon and the final card in group 2 is Texas and so on. So, with that knowledge, he selects each person randomly and tells them the final state from the group. There's no way he could have known Penn's card, so that added detail was superfluous and bad showmanship. The only thing "great" about this trick is memorizing the states in each group. But enough practice would make it ridiculously easy. I agree with the comment that they didn't want Penn revealing the whole trick and stopped him. It didn't fool me, so I KNOW it didn't fool Penn & Teller. HTH! 👍

[@briandunn2171]

@@havanafayre Excellent. I think you got it, and it explains what Penn was trying to say.

[@chesterr9158]

Ivan Amodel. NOT a FOOLER

[@JoeMama-bw2vy]

Correct. Merely a FOOL.

[@KevinEarley]

Very sad when the magician has to click bait his OWN video--not good enough to attract viewers, apparently.

[@thatdevilguy9811]

Look at the like to dislike ratio 😂😂😂

[@tanmaytikle8521]

First he performs a lame ass trick Gets more than half of his trick decoded Then steals a trophy by arguing Clickbait is the only way he can get fame bruh His skills are shit

[@AaronDeVandry]

He handed out 3 cards to everyone 3 seats apart (six people total). Then he calls out all 18 states that he memorized from that deck beforehand. The remaining people were sitting at least 3 seats apart, so he knew what card was remaining from their group. For example, if the first group of three was given CA, NY, and WA, and he calls out CA and NY, then he knows the one person standing from that group has WA. It's why he handed out 6 groups of 3, and -- whoa -- there were six people standing at the end. The cellist was supposed to either listen for Penn only or read his lips, and then somehow play a note that gave Ivan a clue of Penn's card. The trick failed there.

[@nicolashance3248]

Also there was a deck switch when he asked pen to stand up

[@abusethesun]

Seriously... Like he can't even get the important finisher + click bait title. Fuck this guy

[@fpham8004]

But Penn knew this and he was correctly giving the hints, why the judges overruled is beyond me.

[@odysseusrex5908]

Farty Pants I don't know, but I think it was because Penn wasn't saying anything to suggest he noticed the deck switch, therefore they didn't know how the performer knew the arrangement of the cards, only that he did.

[@sisgaia]

OR, he did mention that Amodei had his back to them at one point, and he hadn't finished the explanation. I figured this trick the same way you people did, and I thought that Penn's description was on point. So why was he cut off? Perhaps the trick was done in a different way than what seemed obvious.

[@thegoodlord6518]

Well at least you fooled us with your clickbait to get attention

[@royalheadstudios0245]

hahahaha dead

[@KingPopinLockin]

I don't get how it was clickbait??

[@ernest4695]

Amd also he didnt fool them

[@rachdschraibungistwichtig724]

@@ernest4695 why you say that?

[@TheAndywooller]

Look at his hair! The guy is a walking clickbait

[@akatsukioverlord1169]

Penn: We know exactly how he did it Judge: THEY WERE FOOLED

[@johnkean6852]

Great act and love the Cello

[@timhallas4275]

@Jack Riddles : bullshit. they knew exactly what he did.

[@mlbbgaming2552]

Penn knows the trick. But the judges shut penns mouth. Cause its a new great trick. The judges stop penn coz penn might tell all the methods and it might destroy that kind of trick if everyone knows

[@richardwoolf6411]

Tkdkerkm. Awqqqpwqa0

[@OrbitCube1]

One big fuckup. Off cause penn and teller knows how he did it. They were put to silence. and i hated the trick yes.

[@elchino37]

The only voice he wanted to hear was Penn’s, unfortunately he didn’t yell the state name too loud. For the other people, the magician switched the deck, otherwise he would have asked Penn to hand the deck to the crowd directly.

[@shaunazimmerman5800]

Right!! And you can see the deck switch right after he asks Penn to stand up and picks up the deck again from the stool. 😉

[@Rubixdecampo]

'What state do you have?' 'Rhode island' 'You.. are correct' WHAT?

[@nikolafeschiev3399]

stealth +1

[@realentenkot7630]

i think the magician goal was that penn should have the rhode island card. that's why he didn't "guess". the magician knew that penn have the card, thats why penn have to call the name and the magician say -> you are correct ;)

[@Madcowe]

I think it was meant as a gag

[@patrickkellyf3]

@@realentenkot7630 That ain't a trick, because, well, duh anyone can say "Yeah you're right :)" The trick would have been for him to say "Penn, you have RI!"

[@512TURNER]

@@realentenkot7630 What on earth, did you just try to say?

[@djentile7773]

Pens face when he didnt guess his card haha totally not impressed

[@timhallas4275]

That was just another distraction. It didn't work.

[@timhallas4275]

@Gavin Bailey I think it's Gavinn. 2 ns.

[@timhallas4275]

@Gavin Bailey Yep. that's it. Nothing is real. Life is an illusion.

[@Sonnnay]

Give him a break, he was exhausted.

[@prinegonbevaris1788]

@@timhallas4275 This was not a distraction, but a magician messing up that part of the trick. He underestimated that being on a big stage with the person you want to listen to being 20m away is a whole other thing than performing on a small stage with the person right in front of you. Mr. Amodei didn't lie when he said, it was a lot harder than he thought.

[@DrummahMike]

They just wanted to avoid a negative back-and-forth on television, so I think the "judges" stepped in to diffuse the situation. This show's purpose is give exposure to different entertainers and to revive modern interest in magic while being fun to watch. The trophy doesn't really mean anything, yet this is the first time I saw one of the magicians trying to resist Penn and Teller even hinting at knowing the secret. It was so awkward to watch.

[@pokemon05100]

The judges know how the trick is actually performed and could easily have said he wasn't a fooler. The judges overheard the conversation between Penn and Teller when they were coming up with their guess, and the judges determined that they were not on the right track.

[@dirkvandaele4466]

I think the judge is there to judge if P&T understand the trick or not. Therefore the judge knows the trick. You can see that Teller also took a card, so the deck given back had two cards missing. The end where Penn just shout out the state felt wrong.The plan was to predict that card, but there was a card missing. If he did not know if Teller had it, it can explain the akward end and why the judge steped in.

[@miguelsalas8583]

I want my money that was spent on my WiFi gigabytes back for watching this

[@nukirkking]

It's about 40 mbs, so you'll only get back 2 cents if it was possible. Lol

[@miguelsalas8583]

nukirk.digi.tal ya id rather have that

[@jerff5411]

Time is more precious than money my friend , and we will never get that back from watching this .

[@Emleo.]

But why

[@adambuglyo7594]

Hahaha! Good thing you didn't use data! Damn that would have hurt!

[@JokeDeity2]

Honestly they weren't fooled, they knew exactly HOW the trick was performed and detailed it well, I think the judges just want things to flow smoothly and not ever get out of hand or seem like they're being unfair. Penn shouldn't have to come out and specify WHEN the deck switch happened, he explained exactly how it was done and the only "trick" Ivan needed to accomplish was hearing Penn's state and he failed to do so. Very very awkward stage presence, didn't deserve the FU trophy in my eyes.

[@hemelinger7792]

JokeDeity , it's actually just one judge and he has worked closely with Penn & Teller. I don't think that's how this goes.

[@martyndyson9501]

And you call this entertainment??? Do you watch it for the tricks or to see if P&T can figure it out? Which you have to take in faith by the way because they don't want to ruin the trick!! The only people being fooled here is the audience and the public for being tricked into watching this crap!!!

[@thesadhattah3299]

Think they gave it to him so penn would stop talking so not to ruin the trick.

[@ch33tcode]

they gave it to him because penn and teller didn't know how he did it

[@ch33tcode]

if they weren't fooled they would've said they weren't fooled and explain how the trick was done, but they couldn't explain how it was done, because they didn't know how it was done. thats why the producers gave him the fooler

[@jamescduckett9326]

I'm actually quite impressed.... with Penn and Teller. I think they could have graciously said, "Okay, the judge ruled in his favor, but we don't agree that he fooled us." It's an ego move that 1) nobody would have blamed them for but 2) might have significantly hurt Ivan Amodei's career. For P&T to suck in their pride and let him have this speaks volumes to their character.

[@monkeseeaction21987]

The Cello was just unnecessarily awkward.

[@red3y3z]

So was the "magic"

[@mrannunaki6852]

Thats how the trick was done... she's not there or fun

[@vojtechpilar5809]

@@MrFartyman44 :D :D :D

[@josephblanchard6248]

No, the cello player was actually necessary. Because they play a certain note or chord(s) that signals to the magician a sort of "tell" of which way the the magician should go, or in which order they should go next...

[@MrFartyman44]

@@josephblanchard6248 How would the cellist know who has which cards?

[@adder80]

I think the judges said, "Ugh, this is boring, just give him the trophy.". Penn obviously knew it as he was talking about how the remaining people standing were each part of a separate 3-card handout. Seems pretty clear he did a deck switch at the stool so he knew what states were in each 3-card group. He calls out the names of all the states he knew were dealt except for one per group. He turns and can clearly see who's left and what states they have and pretends to need to hear their voice in order to determine their card but he really already knows. This isn't controversial, it's just kinda lame. Maybe, as someone mentioned below, Penn was just too close to giving too much info away and they wanted to protect the integrity of the trick. Edit : ALSO, you should have just admitted that they had you pegged instead of sliding through on a technicality.

[@brianwurzburg1318]

So just to recap, he gave out 18 preselected cards in a predetermined order to 18 people in clumps of 3; he named 2 cards from each clump; then he told each person the card he did not name from their clump... am I missing something?? Oh... and he asks Penn and teller to shuffle a deck, has penn pick a card from that deck, asks Penn to remain standing for the duration of the trick... THEN he puts the deck down on a stool (and never uses it for any part of his trick whatsoever), removes 18 different cards from his jacket pocket, and never returns to the randomly chosen card (the climax everyone was waiting for).... If he had known Penns card that would have been the only impressive element. To me this all seemed like an enormous waste of time.

[@billkeithchannel]

He also did not name Tellers card at all.

[@NetHaunt]

You are actually wrong. See my comment for how the trick actually was done. It will blow your mind exactly how much you missed and will be apparent after reading my comment and pausing the video at the places I specify.

[@SniperLogic]

Bill Keith Channel Technically, Teller wasn’t supposed to get a card, but he took one.. Probably the reason he couldn’t name Penn’s card and also reason for judges stepping in.

[@2AForever-wi8yj]

the stool was extremely important to the trick not his coat pocket

[@2AForever-wi8yj]

@@SniperLogic I'm guessing the judge told him via the earpiece to put it back and we just don't see it. i don't think it has any bearing on the trick other than his having a card in his pocket would probably be one of the ones that was supposed to only be on stage in a volunteers hand.

[@phaylnx]

Did anyone else notice that at 2:10 that Teller took a card? That would have been an easy way to check for a deck switch.

[@richarddanton5995]

My thoughts on why he let Penn say his state: 1. It is not because he's exhausted (see 6:42 ); 2. At 1:46 , he just wanted Penn to get a card but as we can see at 2:10 , Teller also got a card which made him not sure of what Penn has. In other words, he might be wrong if he tries to guess Penn's state card. I'm not a magician but my gut says that my thoughts are correct. lmao

[@philipauken5391]

@@mikeonthebox Oh they definitely know. Every 3rd person got 3 cards, shuffled, and gave them to the people on both sides. So if he gave Maine to group 1, he knows the last person standing in group one HAS to be Maine.

[@dirkvandaele4466]

@@philipauken5391 Teller took a card out of the deck which probably sabotaged the trick. Penn his card should have been predicted but now there is an akward end where Penn just say the state. The judge probably knows the trick to be able to judge if P&T are fooled or not. The judge could step in and award the trophee, because he is the only one that know the issue. Do remember that Teller doesn't speak, so he could not participate in the trick. The magician probably could not figure out that Teller had the missing card or he could have improvised the ending.

[@ljunod]

Umm...I don't even think I was even fooled by this guy's "hair."

[@LucasSantos-wp7ji]

I saw a lot of fool us performances, that was the first that is just bad. The storytelling was just uninteresting nonsense, the trick was just a simple deck switching, the ending failed awkwardly, and the cello had nothing to do with the whole thing. And you are proud of the petty trophy?

[@TripleTreuViet]

U got everything right except for the deck switch. It wasn't a deck switch it was a legit fool. It was just badly executed thats all

[@I_am_Itay]

@@TripleTreuViet Why do u think it was legit fool? In my opinion ther clearly got it but the judges didn't want to expose the trick

[@pokemon05100]

@@I_am_Itay The judges would've said he didn't fool them, then. They can rule in either direction, already know how the trick was done, and hear the whispering between Penn and Teller while they're deliberating.

[@ThePighead10]

The 'judges' are two extremely accomplished magicians who know exactly how the trick is done, and importantly, they listen in to P&T's deliberation when they are discussing in private (which is a lot longer than actually shown).

[@joevelazquez3593]

Controversial because they weren't fooled...

[@adryansashidharan1624]

@Thomas King The "judges" had to intervene because Penn was revealing the entire trick in plain language rather than remaining cryptic. This trick is simple and Penn knew exactly how it was done.

[@jerryhiggins7557]

Adryan Sashidharan the judge (a well known, older magician) has the trick explained to him before the show. He knows exactly how it is done. He also listens to P&Ts discussion and knows if they are on the right track or not. He clear thought they weren’t. He has intervened in other situations where the magician has refused to concede that P&T had figured it out to say that they were not fooled. Why would he not do it this time of that was the case? It seems like P&T (like everybody else) knows that there was a force somewhere, the lack of randomness in the people left standing shows that. However, the trick is is knowing how the force was done after Penn shuffled the deck. They did not get that detail & therefore he fooled them.

[@Spilly42]

Money Mills doesn’t even need a plant to do this easy trick. He swapped the decks so he knows all the states up there and what “clump” they are in.... all he has to do is name everything until there’s a remaining few left and he knows which states are left in which clump... the trick would’ve been interesting if he guessed Penn’s card... but he didn’t even do that

[@bobowlowgrowing6387]

@@Spilly42 for that to be true he would have had to know what state Penn had first to eliminate it...

[@sanjivinsmoke4587]

@@moneymills7644 yup thats why when penn tells the audience wasnt planted he's already coz the participants are orient

[@jonathanirvings]

My best guess of what happened is that P&T did not correctly guess how the deck switch was done. They probably thought that Ivan "shuffled" the card and chose the correct 18 cards to be on the top before giving it to the spectators. Or maybe they thought that Ivan grabbed (from his jacket) and palmed another deck while he "had his back turned". When the real deck switch happened, we can see that Penn was in the middle of standing up and not looking at the stage, while Teller was looking at Penn. Seems like both of them missed the real deck switch, and the judge think this was enough to give Ivan the trophy.

[@bwen7252]

Notice how at 5:00 Illinois prematurely begins to sit. Which makes me believe the trick was set up

[@ciaranbellew127]

I was just about to write this. He is about to sit and the realises shit he hasn't said it yet then boom he's next and he sits

[@mahlachi]

Same thought exactly.

[@kwahwah]

I noticed this also, and I thought the same thing. But then, I recognised a different tic of human nature, when someone next to you sits as part of a act, and your muscle memory is just waiting for the signal from your brain, one may simily a response from a nervous participant.

[@squadsixhaters8586]

Nice observation

[@geehee1976]

Bwen I think they hear him before it’s coming out of the speakers

[@goldeneddie]

Hi Ivan, many magicians who 'didn't win' did gain positive press from their appearance on the show. Do you regret the controversy now?

[@RichardNeill01]

This video appears to have been edited - there is no trace of that 7 minute deliberation, and only 9 cards are given out (3x3) to the participants.

[@AcousticHills]

one of the most boring, unentertaining acts ive seen. lol.

[@dangerkeith3000]

agreed. the first thing I want to see out of a magic act is entertainment. this was so boring. i'm pretty sure P&T knew exactly how it was done, but they couldn't say unless Amodie gave away the trick because he denied all their guesses. But he didn't lie either, technically, because that's against the rules.

[@yaosio]

@@dangerkeith3000 The producers decide if they were fooled, not the magician.

[@BonJody]

Ya I wasn't that entertained either. I thought maybe there would be more but I could hear the nervousness in the magicians voice. So I kinda felt bad for him

[@chk1230]

You may not have liked the act, I didn't exactly love it, but it's far from being boring

[@rahmadh.arrasyid5667]

But you watched it

[@Josef_R]

This guy falls into that class of immoral magicians Penn referred to once. Shameful display of pride and arrogance by Ivan Amodei.

[@josefhlava9575]

Sorry, I dont see how he was arrogant. He simply tried to talk to them. And people here write that judges said he fooled them before the trick was exposed. That seems to me truly absurd and weird. How are people so sure of that.

[@royendershade8044]

@@josefhlava9575 I don't know the reason, but the truth is that it is a simple trick, and it is clear they weren't fooled, because I know exactly how's done and they explain it very well.

[@lukahavelka7875]

Yeah for instance if 18 cards are in specific spots then if there’s only one card for each spot left then you know which card they have Or that he was only listening for penns card so he could get it but was too quiet it’s a simple trick that I assume a lot of the audience got too

[@thatdevilguy9811]

@@royendershade8044 ya same they got him but, he was able to get them to talk enough to try and catch them on something lol

[@markwalters4858]

The people arnt even random.

[@nirvanraymond5419]

how was this controversial? just seemed like an underwhelming trick to me.

[@hanksbabysittingservice3241]

IKR, I was expecting to see something extraordinarily cool here. Instead it was extraordinarily boring. This egomaniac has a lot of nerve writing this shit about himself.

[@PaulHofreiter]

Controversial, sure because they knew what he did and he didn’t admit it so the producers had to silence Penn before he completely spelled it out which is probably against a show contract. Magicians wouldn’t come on if they knew that what they do would be completely exposed to the public. So by not admitting it he forced them to give him the trophy. Even if that’s not the case it was one of the worst clips of the show I’ve ever seen. Actually, no it is definitely the worst.

[@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996]

@@PaulHofreiter Dude you are full of shit. The judge ruled Penn was wrong because he was wrong. Both Penn and Teller was distracted at the time the 18 additional cards were introduced and they missed the move. Penn guessed that a deck switch was done while Ivan had his back turned. He had no idea that Ivan pulled out the additional cards right in front of them, while facing them.

[@Mr.Soul99]

The Sammy Jenkins Experience Nope. Paul is right. When the guy refused to acknowledge that he DIDNT fool them, Penn started going deeper and deeper on how the trick was done. As soon as Penn started saying “all you needed to know is...” he got cut off by the judges because he was straight up about to expose how it was done. The guy didn’t fool them and was being a sore loser about it.

[@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996]

@@Mr.Soul99 You are both completely full of shit. Penn has completely given away acts before, there's nothing in any contract to stop him from exposing how tricks are done. However, most of the time he chooses not to and speaks in code (which is actually pretty easy to decipher.) In this case he was right about how the grouping of cards and how the selections worked, but he was wrong about where the stacked deck came from. As I said before, he was distracted at the moment the stacked deck came into play. He was just guessing that it came out while Ivan had his back turned. He really had no idea how that part was done, because he wasn't looking at Ivan when he did it and neither was Teller.

[@Steeleman2003]

The way that the show works, the "judges" actually know the full trick and how its done before the show. That's the reason they were able to rule that he was able to fool Penn and Teller. Alyson also explains at the end that the judges are able to listen in on Penn and Teller as they talk with each other after the trick is done. The judges made their ruling based off the fact that whatever Penn and Teller discussed between each other was an incorrect analysis of how the trick was actually done.

[@mattawan1000]

There are no judges... She made it up.

[@michaelnichols8614]

mattawan1000 that is false

[@johnphanuhel2450]

You dumbass.. no they don't. Quit making shit up just because you're too stupid to figure it out. It's a dumb trick and too obvious. The clumps were setup with the known states and no matter how they shuffled them, once the first states were called, the remaining people standing were holding the states that he had setup for those clumps. The only thing he had to do was learn how to stack, or switch a deck and nearly all magicians know how to do that. the judges only called it because there is time limit before figuring it out due to sponsors needing their greedy airtime.

[@LordWiseWolf]

Cool, thank you for explaining that

[@crazyli]

It doesn't usually go that way. Normally when there's confusion, Teller walks up to the magician and whispers directly what they think it is so the magician knows for sure if they got it or not. I feel like there was miscommunication on this trick and the judges stepped in too soon, not really following what P&T had come up with as the solution. Based on what Penn did say (in spite of really bad phrasing), it seemed like he was actually on track. He pointed out the number 18, the groups of cards, and the turned back.

[@nikb5617]

2:47 is the exact moment that Ivan pulled another deck of cards from under the stool. Immediately after this you notice he flips the cards around, ensuring the pre chosen cards are on top and given to "groups" of people. From there its a numbers game.

[@tinyman520]

I was embarrassed for the dude. The judges were so embarrassed they had to step in to save face for the magician, the show, Penn, and Teller.

[@Spankypenguin1]

At 5:00 the guy who has Illinois is already getting ready to sit down before his state is called

[@dagmariussteide6172]

He's the real magician x)

[@timefilm]

I noticed that. He was ready to call out and sit. A lot of the others were also ready to call out and sit too- as if they weren't getting paid enough to do this stupid gag.

[@neaituppi7306]

It looks to me like he is leaning forward to hear better. he was right next to the previous state called.

[@ingainloggningsnamn]

Yeah, getting ready to hear his state get called out.

[@PI7ABR3D]

Setup

[@steveokenivo3256]

He didn’t have them fooled. He knew what clumps were handed to what groups. He names out “random” states to get people to sit. But the people left we’re all in separate groups. So it was easy to know what states were left and where they were. Not a hard trick. He didn’t fool them.

[@thememaster7]

If that were true, it would say NOT Fooled instead of Fooled. That's how the show works.

[@dejviii7986]

@@thememaster7 I will repost one comment: They just wanted to avoid a negative back-and-forth on television, so I think the "judges" stepped in to diffuse the situation. This show's purpose is give exposure to different entertainers and to revive modern interest in magic while being fun to watch. The trophy doesn't really mean anything, yet this is the first time I saw one of the magicians trying to resist Penn and Teller even hinting at knowing the secret. It was so awkward to watch.

[@thememaster7]

@@dejviii7986 The team would tell Penn and Teller that he didn't fool them, then they would tell the magician that the team said that he didn't fool them. Then the next magician comes on. There would be no back and forth. Not to mention that they can edit out any parts that they deem as "too awkward."

[@vojtechpilar5809]

The cello was incredibly cringy. I hated it the whole performance.

[@steamboy77Production]

An instrument was “cringy”, god damn you’re not a fun person to be around.

[@arfshesaid4325]

@@steamboy77Production arent u just sick of that pathetic girl reaction word to a spider

[@steamboy77Production]

arf shesaid what the fuck are you talking about

[@nursen2106]

it had to be cringy to be of any use at all. the sounds were part of the trick (that part, that failed)

[@arfshesaid4325]

@@steamboy77Production im talking about the way the word CRINGE gets thrown around ,. there was a time when it was basically a chick reaction word , do u understand

[@Targoon_Music]

at 2:47 he slides shuffled cards under a set of 18 cards that he already knows the names and order of it gave each group three knows what group has what no matter if they shuffle it or not calls the name of the states. 2 from each group 6 states left 1 from each group calls those too and the trick is done

[@ptneely]

Exactly

[@Rick_MacKenzie]

There's no way Penn and Teller were fooled by such a lame trick but they missed how the extra eighteen cards were smuggled in and made that obvious when they suggested it was done while his back was turned. Apparently the judges considered this an important enough detail to call it the way they did. There have been other iffy winners who have won by altering one detail of a well known trick.

[@thenotsoguitarguy9429]

Rick MacKenzie - usually when the magician is altering one aspect of a well known trick they concede that from the outset. I'm thinking of either the guy with the classic coin trick or the cup and ball guy in particular. Can't remember which.

[@ineffecient8243]

The musician is watching Penn and reading his lips. That's why she suddenly changes the music. Ivan either forgot what that particular tune meant or didn't hear it properly so he conceded and let him reveal it instead of potentially guessing wrong and looking like a fool.

[@wyhiobcarlile4879]

Rick MacKenzie it's less that they were fooled it's more that they just missed something which was him drawing another deck also this title was made by the guy who did the trick and last but not least the trick is incredibly lame he couldn't even guess tellers card

[@makeamericagreatagainI776]

Boooo! He knew he didn't fool P&T. Good on him to remember the 18 states and what the groups had but poor sportsmanship on his behalf. Deck switch at 2:47

[@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996]

@Philip Tucker Penn didn't spot shit. He guessed that a deck switch took place while Ivan had his back turned. Ivan was facing them when he pulled the 18 cards out from under the stool and added them to the top of his deck. He did it right in front of them. Penn was in the process of standing up at the time, and Teller was looking to his right. They were both distracted and didn't see it.

[@GhostwalkerSparrow]

Only Penn and Teller should decide when they get fooled wtf

[@petergriffin8767]

There's a large possibility it was overturned backstage.

[@SuperGringo71]

No one mentioned it but Penn said Teller liked the Magician and wanted to meet him.

[@RedRum.]

"One state for every state" my brain twitched lmao

[@lippy22]

5:55 "Did you hear his accent?" Crickets

[@nelsyeung]

That's just the worst ending of a magic trick can ever have. You can never disappoint the audience at the end, you can disappoint during the trick to build up tension, but at the end, it needs to be a massive reveal. He literally just wasted Penn's time there. If the trick does not actually require a set up deck, then he could've also just let Penn give out those cards to the people sitting down to make it more powerful since he doesn't touch anything.

[@mikenunez4603]

This is how I thought it’s done: There are two decks of card the one that he made pen n teller shuffle and the one that is the “SETUP” card. I think the setup card is place somewhere on the stool or in his pocket. SETUP cards are 18 in total. Thera are 18 people on the stage and he handed the card with the person by 3. Thats what penn is trying to say. I hope Ivan enjoys his trophy even tho he only fools himself and the people but not PnT.

[@TheMusicalPotatoes]

if there's anything i can appreciate about this is that he allowed comments and ratings on this lol

[@Lucifri]

I think the judges actually intervened because the way Penn was explaining things was getting too obvious and he was giving the trick away. "All you needed to know was 18 ..." and then the judges intervened. So they did nail the deck switch and the "clumping" but it was getting to clear.

[@thedarestare]

My exact thought

[@RyanDB]

They had you dead to right, dude. you should have just accepted the loss and moved on. Mind, I suppose it worked out okay for you, so what do I know.

[@Blood0cean]

Not judging by these comments. His trick was lame as fuck and he muscled himself into a trophy to write on his shitty I fool kids and morons resume.

[@FreedomOrNothin]

He is tormented by what he's done. We should all forgive him and let it go. He was trying to entertain us after all. He just made some mistakes.

[@craigyoung9321]

@@FreedomOrNothin if he was tormented I don't think he would then post it on his KZbin channel. That's my opinion anyway

[@theduder2617]

They had nothing. Penn only had one tiny part correct. But both were clueless and judges stepped in because random guesses are not knowing how it was done. If they were allowed to randomly guess on each performance, there would be a lot less winners of this show. Probability dictates almost anyone will eventually guess as to how this was done, but that's not how this show works. Either they know or they do not. And they hadn't a clue about this illusion, trust me. This has been done before. Not as original as this performance, but Penn was not hitting the mark so to speak. Scroll the comments here for signs of how it was done. Hint: It's all about humanity's tendency to presume and assume. For without that quirk of humanity, these sorts of illusions would not work as they consistently do. Take human psychology courses if you would like to kill illusions like this for yourself. Actually, don't. I have always regretted it. That spark of "awe" was extinguished because of those courses.

[@theduder2617]

@@Blood0cean And your way of thinking is exactly why illusions like this work time and time again. You assume he denied Penn's guesses in order to win. But the show does not function that way at all. Penn merely was not hitting the mark. He was lobbing random guesses which is not allowed. And that is why the judges stepped in. Anyone can make guesses. Penn and Teller's jobs are to either know or not know. In this case, they simply did not know. You can learn this "trick" for yourself and fool even the smartest person you know. The answer to the question of how this was done is in this video. But just as the audience, you too looked right passed it. Apologies, but that is all you will even get from me about how this was done. Psychology courses destroyed the shine of magic for me. I refuse to extinguish that light for anyone else. But I assure you, this was a legitimate fooling of Penn and Teller.

[@cravertom]

he will never be allowed back on the show.

[@martinair329]

The only part they missed was when asked to stand, Penn looks at his side table and Teller also takes his eyes off the magician, just as he does the deck switch at 2:48. That he got two magicians to simultaneously avert their attention at the critical moment is the best part of this trick andIMO they were fooled because they both missed a fairly obvious move done right before their eyes.

[@Myztek26]

Martin Air are you a magician?

[@heroclix0rz]

No, Penn said he turned his back on them with the deck, implying that a deck swap would have been trivial. At 9:03 Penn says "you remember that I shuffled, you also remember that you shuffled", he tries to play off like only they influenced the deck, and then Penn says, "but you turned your back, you could have been setting it up."

[@vovowo9252]

Keen eye

[@gregoryburke7011]

good eye man]

[@tobiasegebjerg4259]

To be fair that's the amazing part about live magic, you can't pause and reply to figure out what happened

[@geoboe84]

Wait, I thought Penn and Teller were the judges...

[@3allawiii]

Well no, they are there to try figure out the trick. Someone backstage knows it and will let them know if they got it or not, without revealing the trick.

[@elsonlam]

All performers told the judges how the tricks are done beforehand. Penn and Teller try to their best to be vague when they guess the trick so they won't give away the trick to the audience. If there is a disagreement between the performer and Penn/Teller on whether the guess was correct, the judges act as the final arbiter and make that decision.

[@LutherAmosHouse]

Up until his death Tomasoni of (The Great) Tomasoni of Tomasoni and Company got final say. I can't remember where I read that fact

[@craigyoung9321]

Who's fooled now? Lol

[@Paul-fm3cf]

Ok, I've not read any other replies here, so sorry if these things have already been mentioned: 1) When he asks the people on stage to sit down when he calls out the state on the card they're holding, 2 sit down when he says New Jersey 2) All those people on stage should've shown their card to camera each time they were called out to prove they were indeed holding that particular state. 3) He asks Penn what state he's holding, Penn tells him and he replies, "You are correct." Have I missed something , what's magic or illusional about that?

[@hanksbabysittingservice3241]

I think pulling a bunny out of a hat would be more impressive than this guy's boring act.

[@SGManiac1255]

I'm seeing alot of comments in here saying the "judge was fired." the "judges" in the booth is another magician and friend of pen and teller whom produces the show for them. He's the guy that gets the acts on the show for the duo and he knows how the act is done ahead of time. Based on how pen explains the act he's the one saying "they've got it" or "they don't" and by my understanding is the ultimate final call. The point where pen days "is it true" you can see him lean over where he's listening to his ear piece, I suspect that question was directed to the booth and not to the guy on stage

[@narrow7168]

"If i touch somebody and it affects them, I've done my job." 0:45

[@thedarestare]

I'm so done lmao

[@6779stavros]

When she's talking I always think she's gonna say a story about this one time in bandcamp

[@CybaTronikk]

I always think that she is gonna tell us some story about Marshall, Ted or Barney.

[@vidagogo9829]

And about that flute...

[@bo6838]

Say my name bitch 🤣

[@TheMaz878]

So here's what I find interesting about this. So from doing my own research on how this show works I found out that the performers show the producers how the trick they perform works so that there's no lying or cheating involved when Penn explains what he thinks. That being said, the judges would've have only made the decision they made if Penn and Teller's decision was in fact the wrong one, which it technically was. From what I can tell, the judges made their because Penn and Teller didn't notice the move where he gets the cards form the stool and thought the card selection was achieved through some other means. I don't think this is a really controversial trick, just one with a nice slight of hand move that went unnoticed. I think what Penn was thinking was something along the lines of the cards given out were the card only one of them shuffled or something like that.

[@outwithrealitytoo]

At 9:00 Penn specifically mentions a switch - frankly given the magician wandering the stage "with his back turned" he could have switched a coach and horses at many points.

[@wayneyadams]

That brings up the question of what fooling them means? They knew the deck was ordered, and how he was able to name the states, they just missed the deck switch, so did he really fool them? Since he could not name Penn's state and tried to pass it off as a comical moment should have disqualified him for the trophy.

[@wayneyadams]

@@outwithrealitytoo A good magician would have made the switch in front of everyone. He reminds me of the way little kids do magic with the turning around to do some manipulation out of sight.

[@SniperLogic]

The participants shuffled their set of cards after he handed them to them. How did he work that out?

[@flipitgood2]

@@SniperLogic The structure of the reveal makes the shuffle irrelevant. He handed out sets of three, and then called two of them in the blindfold roll call. For example, he knew that he had handed three cards to the guy in blue in the leftmost front chair: Connecticut, Nevada, and New Mexico. He Kept one and the next two guys got the other two. While blindfolded he called Nevada and New Mexico. This makes two of those three guys sit down, and whichever one of those three was left must have Connecticut in the final reveal. Penn talking about statistics and clumping was code that he recognized that there was exactly one card left from each set handed out, resulting in the final six having exactly one person from the left, the right, and the middle trios of each row, whereas a truly random distribution of the six final cards could endup heavy on a row or end compared to the other.

[@ironrogue2351]

FAKE LOOK AT THE ILLINOIS DUDE HE KNEW HE WAS ABOUT TO BE CALLED LOOK 4:58 - 5:03

[@palazzo1113]

Glitch Bone Good catch, man.

[@triiyt179]

Nononono

[@potatomanmrhandle]

I know your comment is 10 months old, I just wanted to let you know that what we see are several cuts and filmings of the same thing happening over and over again pieced back together to a coherent show, thats how any show is made, someone fucked up at some point making it so they had to re-record the part where he called out illinois, the guy having illinois as a state was probably nervous and misheard the state name.

[@poopstained_jelly6008]

Glitch Bone I was going to comment that

[@elboricua123]

Honestly to me it looked like he leaned forward to hear better. Something i do on occasion.

[@joelsteverson]

To everyone commenting on Illinois starting to sit down early:. This is not sneaky, underhanded, or a mistake. It's not even technically an editing mistake. Here's what happened: For whatever reasons the producers or director did a reshoot. After the performance was finished, they got everyone back in their places and did a second take of that part of the trick. Illinois isn't a plant. He doesn't know in advance for purposes of the trick, but he does know that he's next because this is at least the second time he's done it. At the end of taping, it's common to go back and reshoot scenes with errors or just because the director wants to do something different. That's the most likely explanation. Alternatively, he might just have been confused or forgotten his state, or just out of reflex, started to sit because the guy beside him did. If you live somewhere with light-controlled crosswalks, how many times have you started to cross--without looking at the light or traffic--just because the person next to you started to cross?

[@rpmotorwerks]

The intro piece for this guy screamed Megalomaniac... His performance and refusal to accept P&T's explanation of his bland trick proved what the intro video suggested. This dude is weeeeird....

[@Choppop11]

Who else came here just to read the negative comments?

[@tajvandyken1513]

Andrei Gavrilov yep

[@loganpade8608]

Yah

[@zizimugen4470]

It was a bit disappointing to see “I’m done” after asking Penn’s card instead of stating the card.

[@AGallegos288]

Penn's was the only one he actually "needed" to hear but Penn didn't say his state loud enough so he couldn't guess it

[@wayneyadams]

It was meant to be humorous! What is wrong with you people, are you so constipated that you can't recognize humor?!

[@zizimugen4470]

@@wayneyadams a performance has a certain formula if it’s a quality one. Intro, rise, climax, release. Not meant to sound sexual, but it’s what gets people off.

[@ek2386]

Poor Penn all he did was stand.

[@SniperLogic]

ヅEman Hey! He got to say Rhode Island! Nobody else got to say that! Lol.

[@ArcadeReplay]

When he says Florida the guy from Illinois tries to sit , which he does a moment later when he says his card. 4:57

[@uwinvidanage2252]

Audio might not be obtained in sync

[@Darkrocmon]

or also reflexes when someone next to you is standing and sits down most people do also. No plants are used in this show the producer knows the trick before it even hits the stage and one rule is no plants can be used

[@rainescoto6212]

4:59 mr. Illinois knew he will be called next. A little excited to sit.

[@JSpiffy]

Rain Escoto Good catch

[@antoniodiavolo]

Penn and Teller don't allow plants on the show. And the magician has to reveal the exact method to the judges beforehand so he can't lie.

[@wethepeople5753]

HE MEMORIZED 18 STATES AND ONLY HANDS OUT THOSE CARDS. He knows who has what at the final six because he knew which clump had which cards.. So 1st group had 3 cards, one was Hawaii, etc.

[@DavidSoucie]

Yep. He grabs those 18 off the bottom of the stool at about 2:45-2:50

[@mkmbstudio6950]

2:48 "so I'm gonna take I'm gonna get you have one, yes?" "I do." lol wtf

[@Blood0cean]

His brain was busy trying to talk normal while under pressure of hoping the deck switch wasn't noticed.

[@ceebeebrown2904]

"""Av u been drinkin sir""" YES ERRRR YESS NO I DO YES NP I AV. AV I YES

[@DanTheStripe]

The description says that you "stumped the duo" for over 7 minutes, is that bit in a different video or?

[@Merennulli]

I've been binge-watching these videos and the "how I did it" videos tonight and many have pointed out that their discussion is edited almost entirely out. Presumably the 7 minutes of discussion was edited out in this like all the others.

[@monteanderson7181]

@@Merennulli yep. Shawn Farquhar said they asked him 5 questions and that P&T get 7 minutes to confer.

[@satrianidreams]

Cello doesn’t work. At. All.

[@johnkrois]

Untuned?

[@plain_doll]

The cello may have been part of the trick

[@SteveBennett1]

It was meant to be, but failed. She had one job.

[@loch1694]

Craig Jackson She was giving him clues via notes I think

[@anthonydionne4703]

Illinois was sitting down before called next. Wasn't surprised by it.

[@maddnee]

Penn and Teller both missed the switch 2:49. Penn is asked to stand up, he puts something on the desk to the right, while Teller has his head turned a bit to the right. In that very moment the switch happens. But in the end IMO Penn was correct about clustering the cards, shuffle doesn't matter, because they know that there are 6 groups of 3 cards. So shouting out 12 of them ( 2 from each group) leaves him with just 6 states, distributed in the way the magician handed the card groups. Teller's card that remained in his pocket doesn't have anything to do with the trick, because of the switch. Only Penn's card had to be heard or mouth read by the woman with the cello, who needed to play a specific sound, but that failed IMO.

[@Archeo69]

exactly and i think penn/teller missing the switch (not exactly a switch just added 18 cards to the deck) is the reason why judges ruled them off because they realised penn/teller had no idea exactly when and how it was done

[@jstelladubs]

"one state for every. state. " errrrr

[@wayneyadams]

Yes, it is supposed t be humor dumbass! Take some Ex-Lax, get rid of your constipation and get s sense of humor!

[@DuolosX]

Nothing controversial or even interesting here. Artists that write their own clickbait KZbin titles annoy everyone...

[@TheHungrySlug]

what about the part at the start??? If I touch someone and it affects them.....?? I've done my job

[@cako666]

Totally agree, this dude is a piece of garbage

[@jsaplala1524]

Pen and teller weren't fooled, but, they still gave him the trophy.

[@paulaxa1]

i don't get it. Basically what penn was saying was that you changed the shuffled deck of cards. Couldn't you just reply with a yes or no? Why all this complication i don't get it

[@Podgorski37]

they didn't know WHEN exactly he changed the deck

[@thunderbudy]

Podgorski37 2:48

[@ions2]

It doesn’t matter if anyone at home who can zoom in, slow down and rewatch the video. It’s about whether or not Penn and Teller were fooled. They were. He used misdirection to take their focus elsewhere and they missed the switch.

[@prochuba]

I believe I have the explanation: P&T knew there was a deck switch, they knew everything about handing out the predetermined packages (clumps of 3 cards), they knew how the trick was done and everything else Aaron DeVandry mentioned. But the problem was in the focus. They didn't "catch" him. They weren't able to precisely determine the exact moment when he fooled them. They knew "how", but not "when", and thus Amodei fooled them according to the rules of this game. They focused on the idea that Amodei switched the decks when he was turned around (meaning, he grabbed his prearranged deck from his jacket pockets and made a switch, when in fact, he had taken the second deck from the stool). He combined the decks in palms of his hands, making it all look like one unique deck. The moment when he just put the shuffled deck into his pockets is completely irrelevant in this case, because P&T missed that causative part of the method. If they happened to mention ANYTHING about the stool, Amodei would have to step back, or judge would do that instead of him. But they said absolutely nothing about the stool, they sticked to the sleight of hand when he had his back turned, when in fact, he just covered up his previous move and finished the method to the end. They thought him being turned was the beginning of the sleight of hand, when in fact it had already finished with that part being the last one in the method and simply being the finisher move. P&T can't possibly say they haven't been fooled if they were only aware of the finisher part. They completely missed the stool. You see by the Amodei's reaction that he knows he "has them cornered", because he is very well aware of the rules of the game. He is aware of the fact that they are not mentioning anything about the stool, as they are being completely focused on the moment when he had his back turned. Thus the overrule by the judge. He fooled them. He really did and they all know it.

[@azraelbatosi]

Lovre considering “winning’ through a rather labored technicality won him essentially nothing but scorn from a third party audience...it really doesn’t matter

[@maldust7438]

Illinois guy was starting to sit like he knew he was being called...

[@WigantX]

Exactly

[@ChiefHalf-Squatch]

So glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed 😂

[@morganlefaye3079]

They're not plants, they literally said that

[@WigantX]

@@morganlefaye3079 I was watching photos of a plant when I received your comment notification. Creepy.

[@maldust7438]

@@morganlefaye3079 yeah of course they say that. Do u really believe evrything u see on tv?

[@HCoRE8]

They didn't look fooled at all and Penn was about to reveal something when he was abruptly interrupted.

[@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996]

@Thomas King Penn understood how the prediction part worked, he just didn't understand how he got from a shuffled deck to the ordered groups of cards. His guess of a deck switch while Ivan's back was turned to them was wrong.

[@techgeek3366]

Takes the shuffled deck from Penn. Puts it on chair. Takes it off chair at 2:49 and turns back, making the switch. Hands switched prepared group of cards to people at the back row, in groupings. Calls out the names of states, from his memory of the groups, so that only one state in each group is left (as per Caroline Perez, below)

[@labla8940]

Cards were divided into 6 groups only showed him passing out 3 groups but you can see at end him handing a stack to lady front right (deception camera work) Each group was to pass 4 cards + - to their left so each group had 1 person remaining he knew CT AL HI NY were all the control states He knew each group had that control group so he knew front 1st in line had to have CT because other 3 were seated and he knew all cards in every group. Notice if you break the groups down every standing person was in one of the 6 groups 6 groups of 4 he knw every card in every group so he named 3 of the 4 states in each group leaving only one possible State that person standing would have. Penns stack had all the remaining states not in the stacked deck or control deck hence the 24 people plus the 1 half of 50 states Thats why he didnt know Penns State

[@magfe888]

lmao wow dude I can’t believe you felt compelled to put your name and ticket info at the end of that. what a boring “trick” that no one was fooled by 😂😂😂

[@logicunknowntoyounooo9400]

ok big masta of magic Super Maggie. You seem to know it so well. How did they do it my big masta senpain please tell me

[@emye35]

@@logicunknowntoyounooo9400 she still hadsn't told us how the trick was done.

[@vthammerman]

At 2:43 you can see him turn his back and pull the 18 new cards out of his sleeve and palm them. You can totally tell they are in his palm when he picks the deck back up off the stool.

[@stitchgrimly6167]

'the famed illusionist' haha

[@Josef_R]

@@emye35 Why does she need to tell you how it was done? Penn clearly tells Teller while the judges are talking that he doesn't know how else to tell him they knew. He was on the verge of spilling the secret when the judges butted in. You don't need to be able to explain the trick to know that the guy is a fraud.

[@LVMorpheus]

Penn and Teller knew how the trick was done, but Teller took a card from the deck and pocketed it. I am fairly certain that ended up granting the magician an automatic fooled us.

[@jlinms8721]

He told them to

[@jordanmpaul]

@@jlinms8721 no, he told penn to take a card not teller, he wanted them both to shuffle but only told penn to take the card. That possibly threw off part of his trick.

[@lgbak20]

The music was just annoying

[@omarkhan5223]

Strategically distracting perhaps...?

[@squadsixhaters8586]

Like srsly

[@highpocket888]

I wonder if she was using notes to give him the hints that he needed

[@coreyaudet4297]

WOW! Smart thinking!

[@robertdevino4109]

But how would she know ??? I mean it's a good idea but really how would she know?

[@LinusKnight]

is this the "one state per people" guy? yeah no one was that impressed with this act because it was so complicated (too many variables) and not enough shock and awe. This trick would do well at a parent teacher conference

[@leereed1559]

I think this 'controversy' misses the point. The point is that this is a showcase for magicians to show off their skills. Whether or not they fool Penn & Teller, is not nearly as important as the showcase to demonstrate their skills to a large audience. That being said, there are two magicians behind the scenes, Johnny Thompson and Mike Close, who Penn describes as some of the best magical minds in the world, who work with the magicians ahead of time to make sure their act is shown in the best possible light. In doing so, they likely see how it is done, or see enough to figure it out. P&T do not see this, so that they are seeing exactly what we see. However, in a case like this where P&T say they think they know how the trick us done, but allude to a method other than the one used, these judges have every right to step in and say, "No, that is not the way this was done." Controversial? Not really; it's just P&T's way of trying to keep everything fair; which is one of the reasons they are so highly respected.

[@mittysmith4265]

Rob Lowe does magic now?

[@almond6520]

Naaaaaaahhhh, I think that's Charlie Sheen.

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

You guys are crazy. Erik Estrada to the max.

[@andrewbarber5290]

You think he looks like Rob Lowe? Get your glasses checked, Stevie Wonder.

[@arthurfranklin9315]

Mitty is right. Not that he is as tall as Rob Lowe or anything, but Ivan's stage presence is almost exactly that of Rob Lowe's character from Parks and Recreation

[@NicNico]

Just a lesson in accreditation and candor: Ivan Amodei, you should *always* give credit to people who feature prominently throughout your performance. I am aware that this show is about magicians, but you specifically said that the "cello creates a soundtrack to the show and just allows you to get into the feeling that I want you to have about the illusion that is coming". That means the *nameless cellist plays a major role in your performance and needs to also be given credit for the illusion itself (as you have implied).

[@sammymoynihan6293]

Yeah that was pretty upsetting. It was so bizarre to just refer to someone as "a cellist" rather than credit them properly

[@thememaster7]

Could be misdirection.

[@IbsenRogerGomesRego]

I'm so happy I came directly to the comments so that I don't nerd to watch it

[@cryptosleeper5097]

The cellist played a huge role in the trick. Playing certain notes. Well it didn't work because she could not hear or read Penn's lips.

[@jagatardian01]

10k like & 8,5k dislike today.. That's why you don't clickbait😂

[@jaxy9466]

The only thing controversial here is that you posted your own shit trick that fooled nobody, calling it the most controversial trick done on the show. You didn't even fool the men. You got a trophy by default because a producer stepped in for you. That was the most mind boggling thing about this.

[@Podgorski37]

2:46 Ivan places his hand underneath the stool, clearly picking up a memorised deck. simple P&T never called him out for the specific moment when he swapped the deck

[@jordanking129]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theprince26cats86]

5:01 as you can see he is ready to sit because he knows he is next therefore the 15 people behind him is not a random studio guest.

[@krusk3544]

The show runners/producers make sure they're random

[@pglaber9547]

1) Clearly Teller also took a card but the magician didn't say what his card was. 2) He said there was one state card for every state in the country (50) BUT he only calls out 18 of the guests states but since it seemed to go bad couldn't tell Penn's state by saying you are correct. What happened to the rest of the cards? The cards aren't checked so I'm guessing when he turns his back he changes decks to one that only has the 18 states so he knows them all. I don't know how he was able to point out which person had which of each grouping of 3 states correctly.

[@musicalwarrior9079]

He grabbed 18 cards that were in order and put them on top of the deck when he grabbed the deck from the stool, and then handed out the cards in groups of 3. He knew what cards were in each group of 3, and called out at least 2 of each group of 3, leaving 6 remaining cards/spectators. Each of the remaining 6 were separated into a different group of 3 so he knew what card remained in that specific group of 3. I hope that makes sense.

[@MrXBT2000]

Interesting trick, Ivan, and thanks for sharing it officially on KZbin. I have a couple of suggestions for the presentation: 1. The premise is the ability to tune in to particular voices. It would be nice if you made every participant say something before the trick so you got to know their voices, at least have them say their names. (Maybe not allowed by the producers here due to time constraints) 2. The blindfold after they shouted the state seems very unnecessary, as seeing the participants then would not give you any additional information. 3. Although the chat with the last standing participants has a bit of humor, it seems to be based on the idea that they would have the accent of the state on their card, which does not really make any sense at all. I think having them say the name of a couple of possible states would have better supported the idea of being able to recognize their voices.

[@AH-te5gs]

"1. The premise is the ability to tune in to particular voices. It would be nice if you made every participant say something before the trick so you got to know their voices, at least have them say their names. (Maybe not allowed by the producers here due to time constraints)" Isn't the point that he doesn't know where all the cards are, until only a few are left, at which point he can figure them out on the basis of the distribution?

[@MarcusWolford]

This video has over 5million views, but this guy has under 4 thousand subscribers. Exhibit A that you need more than clickbait views to grow a channel.

[@witchyhobbit]

I have never seen Penn and Teller so uninterested in a trick that has been explained so easily in the comments. They knew exactly how it was done but didn't want to hurt your trick by telling everyone out there. It really sucks that the "Judges" decided for them. This is only Controversial because I hardly believe anyone will believe for a second that they didn't know what you did.

[@solidstatetactical]

I saw this magician live in California several years ago, and he was absolutely terrible and uninteresting.