Pennsic XL Pass Battle

[@MegaRoflgames]

5:37 Tis a flesh wound

[@csar2859]

+MegaRoflgames lmfao

[@hunterfindon1018]

So dwarfs did exist in the Middle Ages!!

[@feinstersuff8i161]

TheHatGuy 😂😂😂😂

[@mcevan1222]

A charge is coming and what do we see? The fuckin' ground.

[@hawkth2588]

Evan McCoin very true

[@weaponbuddy674]

there was a great and successful charge at 5:15

[@austinjosephargosino5824]

I would love to get into one of these at one point in my life, charge in with a Zweihander swinging left and right before I get couched by lances.

[@capitalistraven]

Look up the Society for Creative Anachronism. We have groups everywhere

[@capitalistraven]

Did you go to a fighter practice? Nearly every active group has one that meets weekly and they are open to anyone who's curious. Also don't judge a book by it's cover, some of the best fighters I've ever faced are significantly overweight old dudes.

[@kardenadderley9360]

Kharn Valnikov gay

[@SyrLogan]

Its an honor based system with the hands and area from the knee down as the only area we don't strike. Force levels vary, but after a little bit of training you'll get a feel for acceptable. Pain tolerance and skill can dictate some of the armor you wear, but there are minimums in place for safety. At about 7 minutes in you an see a squire lay into someone with a two handed weapon. You can get an idea of how hard he's swinging just by listening to the impacts.

[@ZonkzUK]

hahaha, guy getting pissed off at 1:15 'Where can we fight at marsall!?'

[@ballerlarva4214]

That looks like all kinds of fun.

[@AlphaNumericKey]

Ah, nothing compares to the pleasant sounds of a thousand guys in plate beating the shit out of one another. Music to my ears.

[@taelis11]

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[@vosslergardia3179]

That parry and riposte at 6:56 by the dude with the two hander is amazing.

[@ZomBLord]

The guy in the gladiator getup has serious balls.

[@danthai2324]

So satisfied when I see a real medieval battle

[@n0M4c]

That plush Tiger's head had me rolling at 0:50

[@THEmickTHEgun]

I've never actually seen the in real life but it looks fun. It actually sounds to be more fun when you are pretending that you are fighting for your life. If I was in a REAL battle for my life during the medieval times then I would not be rushing in lol

[@Beornmann3]

To add to others comments, this is the best way for filming. Great footage!

[@feainnewedd4240]

Wow, thats a lot of people.

[@BrianSmith-jx7td]

Feinnewedd Syln I've heard that this event regularly draws about 5,000 people

[@hawkth2588]

Brian Smith in total we draw about 10k people a year

[@RandomPerson123321]

Grey Spear Guy in the front just slipping shots at 3:51

[@Evanmander]

I saw that! Great moves.

[@Killfest2010]

This looks amazing, I've been interested ever since my dads friend brought it up.

[@markrcca5329]

I guess with a "Pass" battle, there is little room for flanking maneuvers. An attrition battle, each line grinding down the other. It comes down to skill and endurance of individual fighters. The armchair general in me says: this scenario would benefit from a Roman legion tactic, where each man in front is frequently replaced by those behind him, while he goes into the back to rest. The shield wall is very effective, since the shield can't be destroyed, unlike real war :), but I seems spearmen in this video couldn't take advantage of their own shield wall, as their spears weren't long enough. They should be able to thrust over their shield wall, and at an angle, rather than just straight ahead.

[@capitalistraven]

We have rules limiting how long spears can be for safety reasons. The ones used here top out at 9' which is about what was used during the early middle ages. The real issue is that everyone knows how long the spears are so the shield wall forms just outside the range of the spears to make it difficult to reach over, which is still an issue whether you have 9' or 20' spears. Some units do use legion tactics but the line turns very dynamic in a somewhat open front battle like this one where you have to move the line quickly to meet with areas where the enemy has broken through on one side or another.

[@fisharmor]

Hey, I'm the spear shooting through Cinnabar at 3:20!

[@Its_Dawnsworth]

So... im confuse.. how do you know when your OUT? I know when you fall down your OUT but what about hits to the head etc?

[@dankfrank6311]

When you get hit in the torso or head you go down, or if you get stabbed in the leg enough. But this is a weird reenactment so I dunno

[@Evanmander]

It's a rare system in that your opponent gets to chose when they are dead. The idea is we are armored up with leather limbs, chain mail body and metal, open faced helm. A shot that is hard enough to penetrate those things is enough to 'kill' you, and you are honor bound to take the shot gracefully.

[@fernannmendoza8152]

A Great mass stickpoking battle. but i would REALLY love to be in something like this.

[@dantchernov4532]

Totally agree

[@ExeTaldarin]

Best view of Pennsic 40 so far. You, Sir, need to film more videos.

[@hotspurre]

Amazing shots. Just amazing. I saw a number of people I recognized. :)

[@filipesantos8673]

What a cluster f@ck!! I love it!

[@3fgburner]

I liked the pole telling the guy whose shield he'd hit that it was no good.

[@Kingonads]

@TheLoneOnion The group is the SCA, you can go to the website, sca.org and find your local group. Rattan can be purchased at several places, but Ice Falcon Armoury is where i get most of mine. He sales only SCA thickness Rattan. Armour is another story altogether, you will have to find out your local kingdoms rules for minimum armour requirements. But its not to different from the society as a whole. Good luck, and have fun!

[@alexanderthegreatist]

thank you glad to be back:]

[@97sampson]

I'm actually suprised by the sheer scale of the people taking part, unfortunately, i don't get any of this round here, would be great to watch or take part in.

[@RookRiot1]

Adrian empire has steel weapon fighting, and thrusting (with appropriately modified weapons AKA a thrusting cap) they also do not allow the "football grill" style visors on helmets, no openings can be greater than 3/4 inch in any direction on the helm. the rest of the armor standards are similar to the SCA. Less iron chicken fighting too.

[@ppayne95]

The battle got me some good pictures of armor, I got at least a hundred. One helm escaped me however, best work assignment ever.

[@landmine21]

Yea people do that. They're called corpses. It's in their best interest to stay calm and collective, form a shield wall to protect ally pikemen that in turn, pick off the enemy. It's teamwork. I've been playing for a little over a year, and there are times to shield charge through, but its never at the beginning. :)

[@UrbanCohort]

I'm looking in to picking this stuff up, it seems one of the requirements is to at least make an effort of looking "period", and if you're fighting, proper safety gear is also required.

[@calamar1e320]

This would be SO much fun to do!

[@FlipsyFiona]

Rofl that is definitely a tiger head on top of a spear. Best spear ever.

[@UrbanCohort]

Any events that run similar to an Airsoft event? o_o You know, commanders, objectives, towns, end goals, such and such?

[@pyrrhus17]

Why doesn't anybody fight in formations?

[@MrEmiosk]

They do, At least those who wears distinct uniform colours do. There's not much room to manouver than hold the line from charges and push when the opportunity arises. If you want formations you must go to the open field battles, this was a pass battle (walls on either side that stops you from circling around)

[@pyrrhus17]

thanks anybody use roman formation tactics

[@KandiKlover]

What a riot lol looks fun as fuck. Hitting people with sticks for fun and no one taking it personally.

[@Guillermoq5]

this people are playing fair. in 2:20 you can see a guy being hit by a strong lance. he walks out defeated, but with honor.

[@returntopennsic]

This is a great way to shoot the battle! I can see me in the 7:30's - :40's on the right with the big white heater. I wish I had painted my arms on it!

[@levifontaine8186]

Definitely a much more intense version of LARP.

[@cadmuscurtis4794]

You need a few Zweihander soldiers to come to the front to disrupt those spears so you can close in

[@Saturnice01]

If I am correct, if the SCA used metal weapons, dull or not, the blows would be hard enough to kill or maim, even though they have all the armor.

[@oldstonerun]

SCA Tournament of The Fallen Stag

[@TheLoneOnion]

oh if only there wasn't so many spears, I wish I could see some more close quarters sword combat :D I live an Canada and I am just wondering how I can get involved in this and wear I can pick up the correct Rattan (?) weapons for it. I know where to get the Armour easy enough, I assume most battle ready medieval Armour is acceptable? If someone could get back to me with some information I would appreciate it, Thanks

[@Saturnice01]

They probably said, "Marshal can we fight here?" for safety reasons.

[@frenchfryguy7995]

6:25 Dude on the right “Alright bitch! Take! Your! Fucking! Shots!”

[@Nowik1991]

I ve been doing re-enacment since I was 12, firstly XV century in Poland, now I am 21 and starting my own Early medieval re-enacment, as those in the UK I've been to so far, are a bit too 'health and safety' minded. So yes, I'd like to play with you, but maybe on more serious battle-ground.

[@PVPB3AST]

I wonder if you could like use bows with arrows of plastic or like a sock full of sand at the tip area, that'd be awesome seeing a shadow of arrows come and having to raise your shield, and if you got hit you'd be out, and it'd be at the start where all the archers lay down there main weapon and get 2 arrows to fire, one side fires there's, the other, then the same side again, and then the other, and then the battle would start up with them charging.

[@TheBachelorfrog]

soo what are the rules on death for these kind of battles? when you feel it? or certain area's of contact?

[@rodrigoislas1774]

hi man, where is that?

[@Saturnice01]

It;s generally safer to use round wooden weapons at full force, swords used blunt force against plate armor, they didn't cut through it so it makes no difference if they're blunt.

[@NazgulKiller4]

Wow this is amazing. Man I'd love to take part in that.

[@EndlessEnt]

Where did this event take place? Thanks

[@Ubertrent]

That guy that was dressed like a gladiator was bat shit crazy.

[@ThelvaldCam]

@johnpmackenzie yah, i was thinking about that too but i am not sure if i would want one on top. if there was a way to get a camera that could be eye level, will have to keep looking, but the riot shield would be funny.

[@maryconnolly5581]

Does anyone know if the Barony of Carolingia participates in this?

[@ItsLexiR]

David Hopwood Yea they do they field 10-20 fighters

[@ThelvaldCam]

@SyrLogan i am thinking about getting a riot shield so you can see things with my helmet camera videos, instead of just the back of my shield.

[@MrMorphine482]

That being said, a steady march in formation towards the enemy would seem to be tactically sound - you have spearmen that are holding lines admirably, but they aren't advancing, and overall the guys aren't moving particularly fast. Endurance is a factor yes, it's summer and y'all are in quilted plate and chain, but initiative (taking it and holding it) is crucial...and I'm honestly not seeing it happening save for the guy in black and white at 4:58.

[@UnknowSoldier87]

if i could be there just one time in my life i will die happy

[@Saturnice01]

There are quite a few aggressive fighters, jumping out from the line to rush into the opposing force. Many of them got "killed".

[@skallisippe]

i fight with minimal 200 person in codex belli fights! but my soldiers are vikings with historical armory and "fight style". and its realy good feeling!

[@sijar1]

i was also thinking of making a protective helmet crest rig for my GoPro. fighting two-stick i can have it lower without the shield interfering, so took a risk and mounted it on my chest between my arms, a place i rarely get hit. luckily the camera survived. i just posted that vid. :)

[@DagmartheSwift]

aweeesome idea

[@PsixosTisKolasis]

Where do events like that take place?

[@Guillermoq5]

how do i find and join this people?

[@EpsilVep]

this is sca

[@EpsilVep]

you just find your local kingdom ( which state you live in, its in the website www.sca.org/ ) and find your local shire which should be on your kingdoms website then find out when the local fighting practice is and where and they might help you further

[@wernot2wer1]

Slough slough slough slough Though the pay-off comes at 7:00 WHACK!

[@skallisippe]

why they figth without steelweapons? i fight in germany "free fight codex belli" and huskarl skalli sippe

[@sijar1]

that spear line is just waiting to be cleared up by a good combat acher. i just see a few xbowmen though they are hanging back standing around, there are openings to be shooting through, just stand go near the front, on the side of the unit or at the 2nd or 3rd line and take shots at those giant spearmen targets. why do i just see xbow men and xbow bolts? you can shoot much faster with a bow.

[@Saturnice01]

2:26 there was a combat archer somewhere ot the right of the screen, you can see the arrow...

[@Saturnice01]

That guy at 4:47 has guts, just running up to the enemy line like that.

[@chase123654123654]

Where does one get this type of armor?

[@Evanmander]

Most people make their own, or at the very least, modify what is sold to them. It's a good idea to start with cheap plastic and cord, because it's easy to fix. From there, you find out what style you like and start getting more authentic with time. Today I fight in Chain because I love the look and feel, but I too started out in a plastic covered in a tunic.

[@jestertheork]

SCA uses rattan weapons so they won't splinter when we bash people as hard as possible in the head, we don't however allow grappling and other forms of fighting. This is because of that rattan part I just said, no one wants a stick into the hands, or to slip their fingers in between two shields. If you want live steel, try the ARMA, they do some decent martial arts, but slower due to usage of steel weaponry. But they don't do tournaments because they lack some rules the SCA has.

[@voiddragonnova]

Who are the gentlemen with the anvils in yellow? I see them everywhere.

[@AnoterosHershy]

How do you get into something like this?

[@VHS_NEON]

Wie heißen solche clubs eigentlich ?

[@xXipromisclawsXx]

how old do you have to be to actually fight in a battle?

[@robinrahne1]

Go to sca.org and follow the links to find your local group. Welcome back!

[@MrEmiosk]

Saw it and must comment... THIS is NOT a reenactment nor is it a LARP it is a competition.

[@97sampson]

Where are these battles held?

[@BigCrater]

How can you tell which team is which?

[@MichaelRainey]

Notice the red or blue stickers on the helmets.

[@alexanderthegreatist]

any know the barnoy for washington state seattle area im hoping to join back into sca i went when i was young alot and have always wanted to squiree and become a knight for my kingdom and fight in wars for my kingdom,can anyone help me with that i mean who wouldnt wanna another scottish fighter in the mix!?

[@97sampson]

Sorry man, i just meant that i saw some of the ones i said and it looked tough, no offence at all meant, but it sounds like something i would like to try if i had the money. Nice video by the way, some guys really ran in like maniacs :D

[@MrRunswithstick]

I'm 6 foot tall and weigh around 230. I'm average sized in the SCA. There are some scary monsters out there.

[@TobyW360]

when is the next one?

[@Napalm_Friedrice55]

Why is there a gladiator in a knight fight

[@crazy2720]

do you ever play stuff like capture the flag and such?

[@LegionaryCohort480]

That protective gear would do you no good if you rush in. All somebody needs to do is thrust a spear at you, a solid hit would pierce your armour, probably wounding you, which in turn would lead to weaker defense on your side and receiving more hits. If you just ruch in you'd hardly survive for long...

[@bradrosser6919]

lol i enjoy this... im guessin u have alot of people saying hey im not dead lmao

[@scruffy524]

you just hit them harder if they do...

[@bradrosser6919]

ahh ok that make sense. i like it =)

[@MrEmiosk]

Also to note SCA (which sponsors or are the driving force behind these big fights) are a honourble bunch. You most often are not allowed to be part of the fighting community if you do not behave by the rules and don'r rhino(the act of not acknowledge a good hit when it is, also don't "piss them off"(sort of impossible but irritated) by rhinoing... some of them can bend 2mm steel plate with one solid hit with a rattan stick(bamboo more or less.)

[@LutzBrux1]

And damn right you are....

[@landmine21]

We call them french now, and they have developed a war tactic, rush the other direction

[@Saturnice01]

I never said they do use them, I said IF. Emphasis on if. The point of my comment was to say that if the SCA were to use steel weapons, they would maim someone if they were stabbed of hit in the neck.

[@Nowik1991]

''Marshal can we fight here?'' Now i know its LARP rather than proper re-enacment. but still ok ;p

[@MrEmiosk]

Becuse Pennsic is not a strict medieval gathering, it is originaly a fantasy larpy kinda thing, it is just that the majority are sca heavy fighters and knights... One of swedens knights fought in the pennsic and guess what he wents up against. Think conan the barbarian without the muscle and only the bare minimum allowed armor,

[@BogusChmiel]

Konkretna napierdalanka :P

[@robinrahne1]

Well, we do have the word "anachronism" in our name for a reason. :)

[@awesomedude391]

It's funny how they get all dressed up I would just go in with a shirt and pants

[@glassobriscey8070]

I haven't done SCA in a while, don't even know the rules anymore

[@SardinianWarrior]

I'm an European reenactor, i know SCA from armour books and other. Looks strange to me, i suppose Americans have this kind of events because it's too difficult for them to focus on a single period of many countrys that have made the history of wester medieval world. The fight looks good but too many armours from different times and fancifull equipments breaks the "magic illusion" of watching a medieval battle.

[@MSPProductions223]

7:01 big guy in black with pole-arm: DAMN

[@Saturnice01]

Pennsic war takes place in the U.S. So I say yes, it was taken in the U.S.

[@TheKaiMan123]

haha 1:03 that guy with the white shield