Pentax KP

[@MichaelRusso]

Keeping my KP. Fine camera.

[@theCameraVille]

Its a good camera. Probably currently the best compact dslr on the market.

[@VenomIIID]

Me too.

[@jfarleyanaheim]

Only have had my KP for 2 months now, but love it!

[@theCameraVille]

Its an excellent system!

[@Yeahyeahusername]

Thank you for everything... Because of you, I actually buy the KP. Great choice, great choice.

[@theCameraVille]

Jialun Liu It was amazing how well it worked in the testing. I didnt expect it to perform that well. It was miles crazy fun with the system. I can see myself one day down the road picking it up again.

[@Yeahyeahusername]

Good to know and glad that Pentax is still going forward, maybe lol

[@odemata87]

Likewise. Love this camera definitely gotta give him props for the great info and honest reviews.

[@AlhambraDream]

How is KP compared to Fuji? (X100V)

[@theCameraVille]

@@AlhambraDream 100% same as my Xt30 review vs Kp. Fuji dont really upgrade the sensor, just the features.

[@Clodrock]

Got a KP to replace my K-3 (I). Despite the tradeoffs (single card slot, no IR remote function, smaller battery), I still find it a big upgrade. It's made both street/travel photography easier with the ES, tilting screen, smaller size and WIFI. I even started taking it with me on portrait shoots and the IQ improvement is definitely noticeable IMHO.

[@theCameraVille]

Yup, the compact size is incredible and also the IQ. Its pretty damn good. Im amaze not much people even talk about it. I was nervous when I did the review but it all worked out.

[@Clodrock]

@@theCameraVille Your KP vs Sony/Fuji videos were a big factor in pulling the trigger!

[@theCameraVille]

Clodrock I was finding out as I did the test and I held my breath for Pentax sake. Crazy enough, it was pretty good for Pentax.

[@jonhoskins3795]

I've enjoyed your KP comparisons. They contributed a lot to me selling all of my full frame gear (K1 based) and ordering a new KP. I've had the K-70 and while it's a fine camera, I cannot do without AEL (which I don't think the D500 has either). At least the KP has the FX2 button that can be assigned to it. If Pentax would have put IR sensors on the KP, for wireless remote, I would have bought one long ago. Should be here today! Eager to take it out and see what it can do, compared to my beloved and well worn K3.

[@theCameraVille]

Kp is nice! Modular and so far the best DR in Apsc from what I saw. I do wish they add dual sd and more fps but either than that, excellent system and compact as hell.

[@jonhoskins3795]

@@theCameraVille My perfect pentax would be all the external features of the K1/K1ii in an APSC body. Maybe with the chip (and fps, 4k video, etc.) from the k3iii

[@egb4828]

Sold my first KP, just picked up another one. I'm keeping this one! The KP and 21mm limited are a great combo for me!

[@theCameraVille]

KP is a fun system. Solid build and that 21 is nice~!

[@kittyonfire00]

Thanks for doing the KP. It made me buy one after seeing your review before! And having the Laowa 105mm STF lens on it ... it is always amazing.

[@theCameraVille]

Its a fun compact dslr. Very interesting how I started to use it more often last year. It did strangely well vs Fuji ,Sony and canon. Craziness.

[@carloshernandezcordero2739]

Felicidades por tu trabajo, quiero preguntarte qué opinas de esta cámara en 2024, estoy interesado en adquirir una.

[@amoghpadhye6088]

Lee rightnow: "Goodbye KP😢... Hello K3 III" 😎😉

[@theCameraVille]

I have no idea what are you talking about LOL...

[@felipeoliveiradasilva850]

I had one ks2 and I'm buying one KP. The upcoming apsc camera is too expensive to me. Hope I'm doing the right thing.

[@theCameraVille]

When the final price tag comes out, we will talk about it. In short, you are doing the right thing. We will discuss when everything is official!

[@drumsticksusa]

You've almost convinced me. I'm definitely in for K-new, but might get a KP as well if the price drops at K-new introduction. (The lack of the IR control ports has been the drawback for me. They should have had one on the back side.)

[@theCameraVille]

Yea, I sold off mine for $500 used with 10K shutter count with 3 batteries. Should be dropping even more soon. There is more KP needs if they want it to be a flagship but I guess its just their compact mirrorless rival camera.

[@xhiro2339]

I have the kp and is amazing, the iso is very clean and really compact. I love your setup btw :)

[@theCameraVille]

x HIRO Thanks! Its a very over look camera and its excellent. I really enjoy the functionality of the camera. I hope they update it with more features.

[@leonardkessinger5574]

I think the KP is absolutely an amazing camera

[@theCameraVille]

Yup, I will agree! Excellent compact dslr camera.

[@theCameraVille]

Yup, I will agree! Excellent compact dslr camera.

[@richardhale9664]

The problem with the KP when released was the price. It was around £1300 in the UK. The K3ii and K70 were around £800 and £600 respectively. Of course the reviews did not help either. That Camera store one, although the criticisms were fair, dwelt far too much on its 2 negative aspects, price and handling (more of that in a minute), and little time on its positives. Now the handling of the KP can be classed(IMO), as either great, OK or poor and if you are used to the K5/3 range - odd. Firstly it is odd because the control buttons are necessarily cramped due to the cameras size. If you are coming from the larger K5 and K3 models this takes some getting used to. The shutter release is on the top plate (like an old film camera) not on the grip, which means you are forced to hold it slightly differently than the Pentax models we were used to. With a small prime attached the KPs handling is OK, no better or worse than preceding Pentax models, just different. Add something larger though and it turns into a bit of a pig. Things are transformed however, with the addition of a battery grip and I find the handling to uncompromisingly excellent - almost on par with the K5/3 range. Nowadays though the price of the camera has come down a fair bit and this is no longer an issue. In the DSLR realm I do not think it has a rival (the D500 is in a different class due to its professional build, buffer and specs, reflected in its price). This means it gets compared to things like the X-T30, which on the face of it is OK as it falls into a similar price bracket, but really they are 2 different types of camera. Compared to such mirrorless designs you get a larger,heavier weather sealed body with an optical viewfinder (much better if using flash and nicer in use as it is always "on"), the option of a vertical grip and access to a vast array of legacy glass without the need of adaptors. In contrast the mirrorless design gives you a smaller lighter body, WSYWIG viewfinder, better continuous AF, access to an even greater array of legacy glass (but only with adaptors) together with some cheap but good Chinese manual lenses and often better video capabilities. Ideally you want both types of camera, but if this is not possible, you have to chose based on your priorities - I would pick the KP.

[@theCameraVille]

Yea, now its $700 ~!

[@standhd]

I have the K10D and the K100D Super. Yea, they are old. Time for a new body; I got a few old and new lenses. Is the KP the one I should get?

[@theCameraVille]

I would say yes!

[@williammeredith5595]

The KP is a great camera, so yes, I agree too

[@markscott4059]

One of the best kp reviews….

[@theCameraVille]

appreciated~!

[@thenextjam]

I bought one. And it is a joy to use for landscapes. As a compositional tool it canes my Sigma DP0 Quattro. And of course it is much more versatile. But image quality nahh it just doesn't have that Foveon detail. If only I could combine the two into one.... where is my angle grinder....

[@theCameraVille]

Very nice!

[@rmgibbs1861]

Do you have a reference for the best settings for the Pentax KP? Thanks!

[@theCameraVille]

Im not sure the best setting you are referring to? That will depend on your subject.

[@theCameraVille]

For those folks who are talking about that huge broken finger nail in the video being mine. I had to remove your messages because that is incorrect. That broken finger nail in the video is amazon. They used a model with a broken finger nail. 26 seconds in the video. www.amazon.com/vdp/8dc38ac1b8ab4292bc0b030519dc1b32?ref=dp_vse_ibvc0 Also I made a joke about this years ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmOclHeLa7Gii9U ~Cheers

[@StevenBrener]

thanks for this...do you prefer this over the K3?

[@theCameraVille]

100% I tried them all and I stuck with the KP. Very under rated for some reason. I think folks saw it as compact and perhaps thought Pentax took it all out. Its a workhorse for the last 2 years.

[@davyberx3253]

Hi Lee, witch pentax camera you Prefer for action " airplanes ". I have a k5 and i need a update . Thanks so far.

[@theCameraVille]

Kp was pretty good when I was nailing down birds shot in Canada. I cant imagine it would underperform on aviation !

[@southendsites]

Miss Your Pentax reviews...

[@theCameraVille]

thank you my guy. I get that a ton . I swear when I left the other reviewers were suppose to take over. I dont see any reviews happening .

[@michaelc4917]

If just compare the image quality and color science, would you still pick the Nikon d500 over the Pentax KP?

[@theCameraVille]

Michael Chan Kp is a hair better. D500 is still good. So good, the z50 is the same exact image quality so if you are looking for something even smaller than kp, z50 is the nest best thing

[@theCameraVille]

Michael Chan Kp IQ is better. I swear I said that in this video.

[@Munki]

I always saw the appeal of the KP, even when I have the K1. I just can't justify spending more money on it…But maybe if the price drops even more. I just hope Pentax (Ricoh) will continue to make KPs in its lineup.

[@theCameraVille]

Michael D yup. If I wasnt running the channel, I would just stay with my K1

[@Munki]

@@theCameraVille yeah but from the looks and handling of it, that KP is so much easier to justify taking on a holiday (not that we're going anywhere right now! Lol)

[@theCameraVille]

Michael D You said it. Im not flying anywhere till next.... summer 😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Even Canda isnt opening their boarders for us lol

[@PhiddyPford]

Either it feels good or bad. KP for the win

[@theCameraVille]

Kp is a nice camera Mike!

[@go2vprakash]

Thanks Buddy, Going by your genuine review I have booked a new Kp in amazon👍 ❤

[@theCameraVille]

Man, the Kp is only $700 now? gosh.. I got mines for $1000. I sold mines but I can already see myself buying one again down the road. Fun camera, and the IQ is just crazy good. Cheers dudE!

[@prawnboysg9436]

Does the KP body feels like plastic? I'm planning to get one.

[@theCameraVille]

where you getting one at?

[@prawnboysg9436]

@@theCameraVille ebay. From where I'm located, there are no used market for Pentax so I couldnt try. Does the KP feels plasticky and cheap when holding?

[@ArtDecoArtNouveau]

@@prawnboysg9436 no

[@inakiberruetaacebes6883]

Hola , tengo una pentax kp y ayer desafortunadamente rayé el sensor , te quería preguntar : que tal funcionan las cámaras cuando se les cambia el sensor ?:y también , ya que tengo que cambiarlo ,podría poner el sensor de la nueva APC que va a sacar pentax este año , dicen que el AF funciona mejor . Gracias .

[@theCameraVille]

IÑAKI BERRUETA ACEBES si!

[@inakiberruetaacebes6883]

@@theCameraVille can i put the K3 mark iii sensor on my kp?

[@johnanderson3047]

I tried a kp , but I just could not get used to the control layout on it. No doubt it is a very fine camera. More than able to compete against the other major players. Instead I went with a k-70. So far I have no real complaints about it. Overall I still say that between the two the k-70 more user friendly. That is something that seems to come out in most of the reviews for it. I do have a question for you however. How much difference in image quality do you feel is their between the kp and the k-70. I usually either have a pentax 18-135 or a sigma comtemporary series 18-300 on mine. I have good image out of both. I also use a pentax 50 1.8 and still no problems. By the way Nikon d 500 would be my choice if I were using them super camera.

[@theCameraVille]

I remember testing it and was like woah, K70 is a bit off and high iso is muddy like Fuji. I will stick with the Kp. D500 excellent. Does everything I need. flip screen and 4k recording. It has all the bells and whistle. Just a bit bulky but I am keeping it since it has everything I need for an Apsc.

[@ianmilne655]

I wish I'd seen your review of the KP earlier, I have a K70 which I use in addition to my trusty old K10. I'm intrigued as to what the new Pentax is going to be.

[@theCameraVille]

Not a problem . I made so many videos of it!

[@ianmilne655]

@@theCameraVille I like your reviews, they're honest and unbiased👍 Am happy with the K70 tho its still a pretty good camera, need to upgrade my lenses to make full use of it.

[@jimjohnson5007]

Which site do you prefer of selling your camera stuff?

[@theCameraVille]

Jim Johnson I usually just drop it off at a camera store and get store credit but this time around someone wanted to buy it off from me direct.

[@johnwest7228]

does the KP have the star tracker feature?

[@theCameraVille]

yes! But you need to buy an adapter for it.

[@johnvalatos4073]

Fair enough, maybe the new K3 is next. You want to know something crazy, getting lots of Sony camera advertisements during your videos, just about every time I play your video a Sony camera ad plays.

[@theCameraVille]

That is based on what you been searching for actually. Creators don't get to choose what ad pops. Its the cookies in your browser telling youtube what you been looking for. On my end , I keep seeing topaz lab lol. With that in mind, very interesting that sony is popping up on my video. Explains why my videos dip down in views when I give sony a bad review. I knew it.

[@johnvalatos4073]

@@theCameraVille That is odd, in the past weeks I have only watched your channel and no other camera channel.

[@theCameraVille]

John Valatos Someone was using your computer or you searched it on google. Once you type those words in your search engine, the cookies does its work. Sadly I wish I could turn off the Sony ads but now I am 110% sure why my channel was hit when I gave sony a bad review. Its because its kind of like talking crap to your boss 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂🤦‍♂️😂.

[@johnvalatos4073]

@@theCameraVille They must like you now hence all the Sony ads.

[@theCameraVille]

John Valatos haha I wish. If people didnt notice, I havent touch a Sony review and my channel is back in action. not touching that ever

[@vincentlavergne2946]

The Pentax KP is my first DSLR so I won’t comment about direct comparison with other brands camera. My first experience in photography has been with compact film cameras and then compact digital camera. When I first started to consider photography has a more serious hobby, I didn’t considered Pentax as my first choice during my research. I was all about the Sigma system due to the Foveon sensor technology. As I was watching revues about the Sigmas, I realized that it wasn’t a system for me. Bad Iso performance, no sensor stabilization, only 1 DSLR in the line and some mirror-less (with huge doubts regarding the EVF)… in the end, it would have been a very bad choice for me. My focus shifted to Pentax due to in body stabilization and its usage for pixelshift. So I learned about the K-mount (and the backward compatibility of the lenses, the limited line…) and all the others functions em-blended into Pentax cameras. Soon I realized that Pentax was the best bang for the bucks for what I want to do (photography but no videos). I chose the KP because my finance permitted it (and it’s an important parameter for the choice of a camera), and to me, I was making a long term investment (and I don’t plan to replace my KP any time soon). My experience with this particular camera is that it not only deliver in term of results, but it’s also a real pleasure to use. The ergonomic is way better than some reviews implies (I started with the big grip but I quickly realized that the medium one was better for me). Most things that were considered as lacking (no EVF, no touch screen) are things that I don’t find interesting (looking at the picture you have just taken on a screen full of your finger print is not a good experience and the ability to compose without turning your camera on is a true advantage regarding battery life). Pentax menus are easy to use (most options can be accessed through the info button) and the third wheel system + programmable buttons allows you to switch from one usage to another on the fly. One thing that most reviewer miss is the fact that a function hidden too deep in the menus is a function that you wont use anyway. In that regard, the Pentax KP offers even more compared to its competition… I wont qualify the KP as the perfect camera either, but it’s the closer that I found for my usage. Sadly, my usage should be qualified as advanced amateur at best, but it shouldn’t be qualified as professional. And I don’t think that the KP qualifies as such either. Professional photography has evolved a lot during the last decades. Good quality picture is something easier to achieve now with costumer grade gears (even phone), and most medias have downgraded their exigences to social media level. In this context, it’s harder and harder to earn a salary purely from photography. Wedding photographers are going to need good video options in order to offer a service not achievable by someone from the audience, and it’s the same regarding independent reporters/ photojournalists. Even for me there are some easy up-grades that can be implemented on the KP through software update. I would like an on/off display option to be programmable for the top left button. I would appreciate to have different option on C1 C2 and C3 for the same program line when I switch from OVF to live-view. And would like to attribute others options on the C1 C2 C3 slots for in body raw development (mainly the possibility to change numerical filter color for black and white photography, high light compression, shadow light…). With such options the KP would be an even better option for amateur photographer and would still be a valuable option for new costumers for years to come.

[@theCameraVille]

you are passionate!

[@vincentlavergne2946]

​@@theCameraVille Yes!!! I truly like this camera. And I hope this kind of comments helps your channel and helps people who are curious about photography. The thing is that : lately, I came across a lot of reviews about camera gear and I find them increasingly missleading. With the current war between Sony, Canon and Nikon (mainly, with Fuji in ambush maybe) on the mirror-less market, I have the impression that most channel tries to get you into a new system every few month meanwhile I don't feel like there is much improvement for a user like me. They are pushing way too far on some feature such as eye detection auto-focus with lens at f1.4 (and some time bigger aperture) lenses and show pictures that are way too blurry to be "good" (because the depth of field is so small that there is basically nothing sharp in the picture). At the same time, things like ergonomic, user experience, intention of the designer and intended market... are basically overlooked as if every camera was an attempt to be the best in every category at the same time. It's even worst now that they focus a lot on video (with the 4K and now 8K), without trying to explain the technical aspect first. It's like no one knows how much megapixels are needed for 4K. Wouldn't a sensor with just the right amount of pixel be flat-out better ? Basically, shooting a video is close to shooting about 25 pictures a second so your shutter speed need to be about 1/50th of a second most of the time. In that case, the bigger are your photosites the less noise you have (so you can raise the Iso), the more depth of field you can get for a given scene with a given light. So a low megapixel camera should give more versatility for the user to stop-down his aperture (and increase his depth of field or get better sharpness) or increase his speed to get less movement blur which means that video oriented camera should be very different than the 36 or higher Megapixel that Canon Sony and Nikon are pushing as their flagships ? That's why I think Pentax marketing department didn't do a great job for the KP. It's just a very good camera for advanced amateur photographer that deserve to be more in the spotlight for what it does great... And you kinda did it more that Pentax themselves.

[@amanandapan9635]

Is KP face detection usable?

[@theCameraVille]

Works good actually.

[@odemata87]

@@tubularificationed never been a problem for me when using this camer to get tack sharp eyes especially for portraits as a matter of it was a never a issue when using my D7200 either or the other cameras I shoot with that do not have eye AF

[@derkjanvanvugt]

Oke Lee....!!!

[@theCameraVille]

Yes Derk!

[@Xitrun]

I am lucky cause I cought my KP new on Amazon, and after it disappeared. I think they produced a little quantity.

[@theCameraVille]

Correct. It was a short run production. I remember at the tail end it was on sale for $600. Wild times

[@Xitrun]

@@theCameraVille yeah. Crazy little price for this "chef d'oeuvre". I am very proud when I walking with my KP. I love the unique colors it gives

[@sdhute]

Kp on sale again 699..... Temping.... I'm a prime shooter.... Maybe the 20-40 would work good for street photography. K1 is on sale too 1699. Currently I'm only a m43 g9 user. Want to add a APSC. Adorama had the k70 for 346 that sold out quick

[@jonhoskins3795]

If you haven't bought yet, Adorama has the KP for $695 right now, with a $259 flash for FREE! I snapped up that deal in a heartbeat!

[@theCameraVille]

NICE!

[@MichaelRusso]

I sold off my other brands for the only reason it was becoming redundant. If I had a ton of Nikon or Fuji glass instead of Pentax, I would probably be in the Nikon or Fuji camp.

[@theCameraVille]

Well after my vintage series, many folks are reconsidering the Pentax lenses. lol.. Im still shock with the results. Sigh.. Maybe the best and only best Pentax glass is the super takumar series lol.

[@MichaelRusso]

@@theCameraVille FYI: All the Takumars became the first generation K mounts. 200mm f/4 is the only redesign for the K mount that I have noticed. A great lens, especially with a macro tube.

[@xiaodu87]

@@theCameraVille The Super Multicoated Takumars are not that bad either. I've got a 50mm f1.4 and recently a 28mm f3.5. nice lenses.

[@theCameraVille]

XiaoDu If Canon ruins the party. There will be an uproar lol.

[@xiaodu87]

@@theCameraVille I'd even try out a Canon lens, if there was one with M42 or K-Mount. Have a Helios 44-2 and a Jupiter-9, too. So I am quite flexible lenswise as long as they fit on my K70 😉

[@Ronroncho]

oh no more Pentax kp reviews vs other brands? that was your thing! :P i still want the KP, i saw it for 700 CAD, for that price is an amazing camera (like 550 usd) i just wait to the release might can drop more like the k70 :D

[@theCameraVille]

Sadly I don't think KP need anymore reviews because there is too many actually. There is enough side by side. The only thing left is lens reviews on the Pentax crop.

[@iodine_x]

Pentax is sadly underrepresented. I'm a Nikon shooter mainly but I adore Pentax's out of the box thinking in design language and functionality. I've actually got a KP in my considering for a new camera. I use Sonys at work and I hate them. Fuji is the only mirrorless I currently mess with.

[@theCameraVille]

I will agree. I just realized how good they were until I reviewed them and Im a Nikon shooter.

[@MiladJP]

Stop advertising the KP, I was about to buy another one and now the prices are rising again :D

[@theCameraVille]

Bahaha I heard it was rising from another person. Yup, people are probably buying it now after they saw my video and also the playlist I put together.

[@MiladJP]

@@theCameraVille I sold a camera and had around 700€ available. Then I was looking for my specific needs. I live in Hamburg, Germany and I counted all the days I could not go out and shoot because it was raining. Now I can just say... YEAH It's raining and go out to dominate

[@theCameraVille]

Milad Panah Haha , yea I live in Seattle and its the rainy city in usa. Always bring out the Pentax in these times.

[@walle1746]

The KP is the Pentax's best APS-C DSLR camera with worst design.

[@theCameraVille]

It was an interesting design. Very compact which sets it apart.

[@jimdemetrakis2911]

As I stated previously, I am holding my breath as to whether this new APSC Camera will have the now almost mandatory "Flippy Screen" ; as most of Pentax competitors have these as standard fare now, and even Pentax had them on older APSC Cameras. I hope that they have it, if not then I can unfortunately forecast the death knell for Pentax the same way that poor Olympus has gone. The dredges of accountants & professional managers has taken a toll on the decision makers of these once proud historical photo giants of the camera industry. It will drive away newcomers & seasoned photo enthusiasts like myself who number in the untold numbers to shy away from this one great iconic photo giant of a manufacturer to the dreaded competition. If not then Pentax did a disservice to the Legions of Pentaxians, and other Newbies who were considering it as a reasonable option to the Canon's-Nikon's-Sony's-Fuji's of the world to say the least. I was really looking forward to buying & diving into the Pentax System with a purchase of this camera with its assorted branded lenses, flash's & accessories. As a Film shooter of many decades I had given up my film hardware and wanted to finally dive into the world of DSLR's. Now I can only hope that this new puppy has a flippy screen, if not then I will shed a tear for the great Pentax line.

[@theCameraVille]

Yea, tons of people arent happy. I cant believe 70% are shocked there is no flip screen in 2020 on a flagship camera. I have been getting messages like every hour on it. Its a strange day but yea, that flip screen means a lot to many folks. The specs must out weigh this. I hope so. It gotta right?

[@odemata87]

@@tubularificationed you say that's a trend, what came out after the KP that made this a trend with the strip down features?

[@odemata87]

Though I would have preferred a flippy screen myself I'm not going to be so pessimistic about dismissing the brand entirely because that. I do feel their management has a disconnect with their customers nonetheless yet however they do find themselves in a very interesting position in a ever contracting dedicated camera market. Despite what you may see on KZbin or read in the blogs, many of those companies you listed aren't even selling as much you may think despite all the bells and whistles they are cramming into their cameras. Fuji case in point biggest sellers I believe are their Instamax cameras. If Pentax can carve out niche with their DSLRs who's to say they may infact have some staying power amongst all of this? I think the new OVF is something else (BS) but who's to say it may offer some true benefits for those who can utilize such. Maybe this is their way of structuring just has Nikon done when they omitted a second card slot in some of their cameras and top LED screen, creating a new distinction between Pro bodies and Enthusiasts/Prosumer etc

[@odemata87]

@@tubularificationed okay this is interesting. My first foray with Pentax is with their KP then followed by the K1 so I'm not that well versed with their product history. I still think from use, the KP despite some of its limitations when compared to its contemporaries, robust and functional. Actually my main complaint is the flippy screen do its resolution. Definitely will keep an eye on this trend you speak and can only hope what they take away from this latest camera they can make up for it with something worth even talking about more buying.

[@StevenBrener]

Tweet the crap out of Pentax and Ricoh!

[@ryankwan1934]

*Compact for a DSLR. A truly compact camera is something like the EOS M6 II.

[@theCameraVille]

That is soon to be discountinued. RIP EOS M. But they use a 1.6 crop sensor which is why they fail in image quality. So back to the statement. A true compact camera with bad image quality is EOS M . As mentioned in my video I tested 7dmkii as well. Smaller the sensor , the worse iso and dynamic range you are getting.

[@AndrewSowerby]

@@theCameraVille the slightly smaller sensor is a factor, sure, but several MFT cameras beat most of the APS-C sensors Canon made until about 2016 (when the 80D was released) for dynamic range (even their FF 5D and 1D range had poor dynamic range), and even on ISO in some cases (Oly E-M1 MkII vs. Canon 80D, very close on DR, and the Oly appears to be slightly better on noise performance!). Pentax APS-C was easily beating Canon FF on DR. Even the ancient K5 (2011!) is still nearly able to match the Canon 1DX MkIII for dynamic range. That's crazy - the Canon was released THIS YEAR! Canon sensors used to be garbage. They're pretty good now, almost as good as the worst of the competition. ALMOST (sorry Canon sensor division, you still kinda suck). Of course, that never stopped skilled photographers from getting incredible images out of them, and they have so many amazing lenses available, nice colour science, ergonomics, build quality, support etc., so I'm not knocking them overall, but those 2016 and older sensors were a long way behind the competition!

[@theCameraVille]

Andrew Sowerby Negative. Cant go that route because then we open the gates for Smartphones. With that said nope. Also I was a MFT shooter. Images are hot garbage. Only good in good lighting conditions. Nope

[@AndrewSowerby]

A truly compact interchangeable lens camera system is the Pentax Q ;)

[@theCameraVille]

Andrew Sowerby Nikon J1, Ashton kutcher version.