PENTEL Oil Pastels VS CARAN DACHE NEOPASTEL Review | Which works better ?

[@paintingandchocolate]

What do you think of the cheapest vs priciest oil pastels ? Let me know below and please share what brand you use if you own oil pastels and how you enjoy them 🙂

[@MrQuuze]

NeoPastels and Sennelier product sample. soon more. btw one end user tested Pentel lightfastness itself and get terribly faded results.

[@silverkip2992]

With oil pastels, I can't really say that I've used any "bad" ones. I've tried Pentel, Mungo gallery (blue box, not the soft oil pastels) and Paul Rubens, all three of them act completely different from each other and give completely different results. With Pentel I can create solid textures and clear details, with Mungyo I can _glaze_ the colors on top instead of the usual layering to create very nice blends and Paul Rubens is more opaque and vibrant for solid colors and layering.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you for this great insight! I'd like to try Mungo soon, it's helpful to know!

[@silverkip2992]

@@paintingandchocolate just keep in mind that there is a VAST difference between the cheaper blue box Gallery Artist's oil pastels and the black box Gallery Soft oil pastels. The ones I've used are almost all really transparent (which is why I can do the glazing) while gallery soft seems to be more opaque and pigmented, and are also the most popular ones.

[@paintingandchocolate]

@@silverkip2992 thank you so much, I'd gladly try them all if possible to test them out!

[@Skinnychelle48]

I agree!

[@LexiandAimee123]

My take away was to use BOTH, perhaps c-d for background blending and P for foreground detail.

[@paintingandchocolate]

That is interesting ! I would love to hear more if you attempt it 🙂

[@stroodledoodles]

I like both pieces for different reasons, the details and shadows are more defined in the Pentel one while with the Caran d'Ache the colours are more vibrant. I guess it depends what kind of look you were going for. This was a really cool comparison!

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you ! And yes it's true it depends on taste and style one likes I guess 🙂

[@rodrigohurtado3011]

Thank you so much for showing your content. I love oil pastels, continue doing more videos, you are so good in this technique 👌

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you ! I appreciate it 🙂

[@slumberfloeey6851]

when I was in elementary school, a kid brought caran dache for art class and I was wowed how smooth the crayon texture was on the paper, it was smoother than the crayon set I used to have. the price is worth it.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Oh yes it is such high quality 🙂 I love their luminance colored pencil too!

[@ramyaselvaraj223]

This is an amazing video. Great Comparison and amazing insights. So helpful. Thank you so much!

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you Ramya, I'm glad it's helping! Gotta try the solvent in a future class! 🙂

[@danyelhudon458]

What ever the oil pastels brands you are using, it all depends what you want to achieve it, I am having all kinds of oil pastel and I using the drying ones by putting hands cream and mixing them as a past with knifes, and I am using the Pentel Art ones for portraits behind a canvas and I am able to use the sfumato techniques of Da Vinci in my portraits for using many-many-many layers for painting the Mona-Lisa paintings as exemple and I do love of using my Pentel for Artist, Neopastel and Mungyo extra soft brand for an Impressionist style as well as Doms and the Mungyo for students with candles on Bristol paper or cork sheets for a Autumn landscapes with the effect textures of the leaves and my HAIYA and others sets of Paul Ruben be use on black paper Canson or Fabriano specially for pastel for theirs opacity, but my favourite paper is still the smooth Bristol or Ohuhu for markers for my impressionist style and the water cold press such as Arches or Fabriano Artistico for realism artworks by using with my watercolour Museum pencils or Steadtler karat for theirs softener’s finition lines. After describing, how I am using my oil pastel, you can guess these are my favorite art medium, not because it is more relaxing of using them, because it is demanding a lot manipulations and times consuming! On the other hands, I love to use watercolour and gouache to relaxing more! Furthermore, you can use Mungyo extra soft and Sennelier with medium paints with brushes as oil paints on canvas. In conclusion, I do think there is not a relaxing medium, bc it is all depend how you are using it for fun or doing a masterpiece! Hope these information might be useful for someone! From Quebec in Canada 🇨🇦, 😊❤

[@DigitalViscosity]

One last thing about "being able to make it work" if someone doesn't have the requisite skill it can be demoralizing and if they don't particularly know the technique or have the guidance to make it work. I think beginners don't have to buy something like Sennelier or Caran D'ache but options like Mungyo and Paul Reuban with a nice pastel paper from strathmore will be the best method for budget.

[@paintingandchocolate]

I heard Mungyo is pretty good yes !

[@ashicks]

I definitely prefer the caran d’ache but both are beautiful!

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you 🙂

[@NaomiCoutureArt]

Very nice comparison, have you ever tried Mugyo or Paul Rubens oil pastels? I would love to know where you would see them between the hard and very oily scale as I have been looking at them to try.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you Naomi, I haven't and I appreciate your suggestion as I'm hoping to test them all out little by little!

[@silverkip2992]

I've tried Paul Rubens. They're like 15/10 very very oily. Some of them are so wet it even gets in the wrap and in your hands. I remember taking out the purple one for the first time and there was like a line of wet oil at the bottom following the axis. It's not _excessive_ but it's noticeable.

[@debramoss2267]

I like the saturation of the neopastels, but I also like the crisp lines of the cheaper ones

[@paintingandchocolate]

They each seem to have their pros

[@debramoss2267]

@@paintingandchocolate are they compatible, or only work exclusively?

[@paintingandchocolate]

@@debramoss2267 I think they are but then still so different I would pair up more similar brands.

[@loati94]

You can't deny that caran dache are better quality oil pastels although I like pentel a lot too, but that being said, the pentel drawing looks slightly better i am sure, because the caran d'ache one is overblended. In the pentel one you see the shapes better and the values are more contrasted because it's less blended. It happens to me too when I use different brands of oil pastels, each brand requires slightly different adjustments in technique depending on their pigment load and blendability. Also the fact that pentel are smaller gives you more precision.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Yes it's true that each brand works slightly differently, thank you for your valuable input here! Next I'll try Caran d'ache watercolor pencils and curious to see how these do!

[@shamsulalam4719]

This video deserves a lot of comments 🎉🎉

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you 😊

[@ateliersarahanahoryvapaos]

Pentel are really good if you are a beginner and so cheap for what they do. For serious artists who sell their work, Caran D´Ache are definitely more reliable, very pleasant and easier to use. Have been working with both and am curious of how will Pentel artwork behave over time. Thanks for your video

[@paintingandchocolate]

You summed it up very well about these two! Thank you for watching 🙂

[@blackbirdnoodle9546]

WAIT.. Do i need specific paper to work on with oil pastels? I bought the pentel this day and I just got a bond paper lol...

[@paintingandchocolate]

Some papers will work better than others for sure. The common features that i think work for oil pastel is thick and smooth but with some tooth.

[@christinebarone2151]

Have you tried the water soluble carandache oil pastels. ….

[@paintingandchocolate]

Yes I have a few !

[@ninaorehek7983]

Great to know! I only have a few for mixmedia. They are Van Gogh.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you Nina! I'd like to try them too and see!

[@aariana1205]

Pentel looks more vibrant

[@MrQuuze]

what paper you used? i try found good paper for oil pastels.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Claire fontaine paint on for mixed media

[@EliiiArt]

Thanks. What's your paper?

[@paintingandchocolate]

Clairefontaine Paint'on

[@jackedwards2363]

what diffancenif use extra soft oil pastals

[@paintingandchocolate]

It sounds the extra soft would be creamier, unless you are referring to "soft pastels", in this case it's completely different from "oil pastels".

[@krupali-gallery]

Nice Painting

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you, it was interesting trying it so many times with different brands

[@shamsulalam4719]

I'm thinking about buying pentel now I'm confused between pentel and mont marte

[@paintingandchocolate]

I never tried Montmartre

[@SpyroTheGerudo]

Im dipping my toes in oil pastels, amd I think the pentel look fine for a beginner grade brand. At the same I went with the neopastels because the 24 pack was on sale, and after absolutely blowing myself away making portraits with their water soluble pencils, I had to go with them again XD

[@Rainbowsandswirls47]

I think the Caran Dache definitely look better, the blending, the pigments. Thank you for the comparison 😊

[@paintingandchocolate]

Thank you for your feedback on it 🙂

[@ivmara9987]

The Pentel Arts are not considered to be lightfast. Did they use any of the ASTM or Blue Wool scaling?

[@shamsulalam4719]

But pentel is enough good

[@DigitalViscosity]

Haha is there really even a comparison? I own a ton of brands myself, I can use some pentel colors but some of them particularly the skin tones I just throw out the worst offenders being pale orange, I use salmon pink instead. The blues tend to be a little better but pale blue is just ok. I even have some issues with Sennelier and Caran D'ache, I notice that the green in Sennelier is very transparent and not quite as pigmented but it's great in the neopastel(personally my favorite to use alone or with sennelier). However I will always fill large blocks of color for a background with my cheaper pastels.

[@paintingandchocolate]

I imagine with all the brands we will all have our favorites. The point is even cheap brands allow for cool art so that's encouraging !

[@devernepersonal3636]

everything i have heard on the internet says that pentels are not lightfast.

[@LisaH2472]

please don't encourage people to shop amazon

[@marytesta3003]

Come on! This is a silly comparison. What's better...a Lamborghini or Kia Soul? If you are a professional artist you won't be buying Pentel for selling art. For me it's just a hobby so use Myungo set of 72 colors. A good thing with Sennelier and maybe Neopastels is you can get open stock.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Well, in my case, the Pentel were gifted so it was worth comparing. Besides not everyone sells their art including myself. But I see your point for those who would want to sell and I keep hearing Myungo is nice but haven't had a chance to try unfortunately.

[@brorow6821]

I have Pentel and their not that good they are like regular crayons.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Maybe a bit dry? Not sure if it's just mine.

[@brorow6821]

@@paintingandchocolate No they are a bit dry I actually bought the 432 box thinking they were like my other brand but I was disappointed ☹️ after using them but I try to make the best out of it.

[@kengriffin]

The problem with using low grade crap to practice is every once in a while you'll actually do something worth keeping or that is actually sellable. When you find your "practice" produced a decent work and it's on a garbage support(art school newsprint,etc), rendered with junk student grade or less media it is not sellable.If you have any integrity as an artist you certainly can't sell the piece as it won't last in normal light conditions and who wants hang cheap junk on their own wall? You should use the best quality you can afford and if you're going pro, then use professional media only. Pentel and Crayola art not pro grade.

[@paintingandchocolate]

Agreed when it comes to selling as we would want the art to last. I don't sell my art so it find it interesting for practice and testing brands out, although I still prefer to use higher end supplies.

[@tiffertoes86]

Could you not just sell prints? I hate that artists might have secret work the world won't see because it so happened they doodled it on a napkin with a ballpoint pen! I think all art is valuable to someone!