What If Luke Skywalker JOINED the Imperial Academy (Star Wars What Ifs)

[@PentePatrolStarWars]

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[@aguest8150]

What if talzin and ventress killed grievous and dooku part 27

[@Concauction]

Obi-wan and Yoda were probably not the last jedi

[@clarity2199]

Um.....throwing Vader out of the space station may not kill him. Even before the suit, he was shown to easily handle intense falling heights. In his protected suit, he could easily use the metallic legs to help protect the rest of his body from the fall, while using the force to slow him down. Her chopping off 'metal' arms isn't going to hurt him. I can see him surviving that.

[@hemlarclaevus4231]

Pente Patrol Star Wars Honestly man. Don't take this the wrong way, but the Kenobi series isn't canon. It was made with Kathleen Kennedy's political agenda and desires in mind. It gave us a weak, not even intimidating villian of a main character that we can't even relate to and it also downgraded two great characters that we once loved. Kathleen has no desire to support boys and their transition into men and she didn't have any interest or respect for Star Wars in general.

[@aguest8150]

@@hemlarclaevus4231 hey bro I hate the sequels and Star Wars resistance but Kenobi was ok and Kathleen was temperd by ewan mcgregor I think that even though I refuse to let the sequels be cannon in my mind I can let Kenobi as it is not as bad and while it retcons a LOT it is no cannonbreaker like rise of Skywalker or last Jedi

[@RyanTheDark]

Luke: We've been through this. I told you I want to be an Imperial Admiral. Vader: It's just a phase. Luke: It's not a phase, dad!

[@tadhggoreyoneill13666]

🤣🤣

[@kellyweingart3692]

😂😂😂😂

[@lord-of-the-trees]

Interesting

[@NightSentinel8432]

E

[@brianstabile165]

Vader:Come out you are gonna become a a inquisitor

[@Mitch...Gregory]

Love it. Obi-Wan is gonna be so disappointed. All that wasted time looking after Luke and keeping him away from the Empire only for him to join them regardless.

[@CC-mv1ue]

Lol

[@Zionbahzard]

Kenobi: Luke you were supposed to destroy th........ wait why does this sound familiar🤨.

[@helljumper2565]

Obi-wan: Looks like I’ll have to set another skywalker on fire

[@darthvader5540]

It was inevitable

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@helljumper2565 Oh shit! That's one hell of a burn!

[@dragonfiregaming4427]

I'm convinced this is the best timeline. Luke has great success in his initial dream of serving the empire, palpatine is dead, Vader can no longer terrorize the galaxy and I'm convinced that especially with Luke's influence seeing that luke is thrawn's right hand, Thrawn would be an at least semi-compassionate ruler as he would likely know that being a dick to the galaxy would just cause uprising.

[@TarsonTalon]

You might say he brought balance to the Force. Speaking of which, I wonder if either Thrawn or Luke would become curious and investigate the Force themselves. Luke due to his own natural abilities, but Thrawn due to the understanding that such power could prove useful in peacekeeping and future conflicts. Probably a Grey Order, that is a lot less religious and far more utilitarian.

[@wholesome_masochist4113]

Here's the thing: even without Luke being there thrawn is incredibly practical and pragmatic despite how rebels showed him. He goes out of his way a bunch to solve things without blowing them up when given the option, even to detriment to himself. So he'll be fine either way

[@novahazing5254]

@@TarsonTalon Honestly I could see luke making something akin to the Imperial Knights in Legands. They where abid Light Adepts with the Force who served as Peach Keepers for the Reminates of the Empire that had sided with the New Republic in an alliance.

[@mesiagamer5217]

@@wholesome_masochist4113 let's not forget Rebels Thrawn and Legends Thrawn were in two completely different strategic positions. Legends Thrawn was fighting from the rebels' previous position with limited resources and a sark understanding that he can't comfortably take a major loss. Rebel's Thrawn was fighting from the strong position with the ability to call on almost any resources he needed and had his focus split between taking out the Phoenix rebels and his starfighter pet project. And while it's not always the case there are times when genius have endless resources they tend to ironically enough hyperfocus on a single strategy.

[@jimishazamfusioncool3787]

Best timeline!? What about Abeloth 💀💀

[@locoarticwolf2181]

Love that Luke doesn’t become a Acolyte and remains a part of the Empire as a mastermind. It’s often forgotten that the Skywalker’s are brilliant and cunning. Really love how the Empire is in a decent or better place with no Sith or Jedi to threaten it. One of the best timelines for the Empire. The Empire could’ve lasted longer with Palpatine and Tarkin and their followers.

[@andreyradchenko8200]

As the old /tg/ adage goes, wizards have no sense of right and wrong. That includes space wizards.

[@justinhammer3196]

Anakin was a true mastermind indeed.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

If it wasn’t for Palpatine being the evil man he was I’m sure the Empire could’ve legitimately been the best thing for the galaxy. Problem is Palpatine wanted yes men for everything which led to some ridiculous corruption in the Empire Everyone wanted Palpatine’s favor. If the emperor (insert person here) actually cared about the Galaxy then the higher ups would have to care too. Leading to better standards of living for most of not all of the galaxy

[@KertaDrake]

@@andreyradchenko8200 Wizards only think of wizard solutions to problems. Someone unfriendly? Socializing is too much work, just charm person! Need a loyal army when the people won't fight for you? Don't bother inspiring loyalty, just use necromancy! Rebels? Escalating levels of fireballs until they stop being a problem!

[@AzraelThanatos]

You know, a terrifying combination would be a combo of the skills developed under Thrawn and an unknowing talent with battle meditiation because combo those and in charge of forces creates a monster on a strategic and tactical level despite losing out on the even smaller scales

[@brothers_of_nod]

I really like how this turned out. I've heard several What Ifs for Luke joining the Imperial Academy, and while they go differently, they all follow him joining his father's side and becoming Sith. It's quite refreshing to see Luke follow a path of a pilot and wind up under the cunning guidance of Thrawn. As well, your story had the prophecy come true in several different forms. Darth Vader (still Anakin Skywalker) killed Palpatine, leaving one crippling blow to the Dark side, then Leia, a skywalker, killed Vader, bringing an end to the Sith, and finally, Luke Skywalker killed Leia, leaving Obi Wan and Yoda to pass away of old age and end the Jedi, leaving the force entirely neutral and balanced in Luke who was affiliated with neither religion, his only concern being with serving his new Emperor in Thrawn.

[@ivans.5959]

The best outcome imo Thrawn wouldn't be as sadistic as Palpatine and would find other ways of solving things, not just blow them up and enslaving them. And certainly the Galaxy wouldn't be left with that chaotic and corrupt Republic

[@Kailerification]

Ahsoka and Maul are still about

[@brothers_of_nod]

@@Kailerification Ahsoka isn't a Jedi, at least not anymore, and Maul left behind his title of Darth, they may both have atonement with the Force, but Ahsoka is much more balanced than the average Jedi, and while Maul uses the dark side, I think by now he's closer to the night sisters; not quite, but closer there than to a sith.

[@Wheatcamp]

Memento Mori

[@droman608]

Perfectly Balanced. #asallthingsshouldbe

[@patrickbarnes9462]

"Apology accepted, Captain Skywalker."

[@zephyr8072]

Obi-Wan: "You were the son of the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the Empire not join them!" Luke: "I'M LARGELY INDIFFERENT TO YOU."

[@revan0890]

🤣

[@talonstride]

Old Obi-Wan: "You were my nephew, Luke. I love you..."

[@ottersirotten4290]

epic :D

[@AskTorin]

This slaps so hard

[@talonstride]

After Luke got enraged about his childhood friend being killed, he permanently cemented himself into the Empire.

[@man-oy6pl]

Now I've always been an imp loyalist but Luke's rise through the empire was something I didn't know I needed thanks (And just to be clear I love what the empire stood for not what it is)

[@courtiusmaximus5150]

That was very interesting. Luke was so gifted. He made great strides in the Empire. And in the end got that sick prosthetic arm.

[@SoreChipmunk963]

What if the Jedi temple wasn’t built on top of the Sith temple? Maybe they would have sensed the dark side in Palpatine quicker, or they wouldn’t have been so arrogant, because I think it’s the darkness inside of the temple that clouded their vision

[@RichyArg]

it wasn't a Sith Temple, it was a Dark Side Nexus, which mos Sith Temples were, but that particular spot was not, it had been the seat of the order for ages, it was first built when the order was still young, and the force wasn't quite well understood, it was built well before use of the darkside became taboo, so to the jedi that built it it was just a force nexus.

[@SoreChipmunk963]

@@RichyArg I didn’t know that Thx for the information

[@publicprofilename4273]

I totally agree, and have always thought that the dark side esscence had corrupted the jedi, over generations, slowly enough that they didn't notice it, while at the same time, making subtle nudges to their doctrine and code. The most glaring change, being the way the Jedi view the Sith and dark side in general. The quick and easy path indeed? How many generations of Sith from Bane onward, were there secretly and methodically putting the pieces in place, and positioning their successors one step closer to the end game? How long was the game Plagues and Palps played, to get that check mate move, Darth Jar Jar set up in ep 3? I mean, if that was the quick and easy path, then I'd hate to see what they'd consider the hard road, right?

[@publicprofilename4273]

@@RichyArg Are you sure about that? I have always understood it to be, that under the temple, there was a Sith temple ruin, that had a darkside energy, clouding the Jedi in the temple above, for generations. Other than the bitchslap aspect of it, it was also "a" reason palps put his crib there, so he could commune with the darkside energies there. Wasn't there even some superweapon underneath it all? There's so damn many books and stories, in 2 timelines, I can get stuff jumbled up, being an old af codger now, but I feel pretty strongly that you're mistaken. I mean no insult or disrespect, we should have a discussion about it. I'm more than willing to get new insight, and be shown I'm wrong. I'm really intrigued by your statement, and want to hear more.

[@fawkewe]

Palpatine was an extremely powerful force user who rarely actually used his powers so he was probably just masking his energy or finding a way to make it blend in with all the Jedi on the planet. They know a sith lord exists somewhere so he wouldn’t need to worry off world.

[@anthonykodaski6161]

I really love this story. I was very invested with Luke’s side of the story because of how complex and interesting it was. A lot of Leia’s side was, okay heard it before. But there was plenty of interesting things that did happen with Leia. And the ending was great, perfect cherry on top.

[@ciphered2000]

How would Vader not have realized Luke's identity almost immediately? He would've learned his name was Skywalker right off the bat and immediately put 2 and 2 together.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

I imagine it would go something like this, Vader: (force chokes some underling for incompetence) Vader: "Now, tell the captain to lead his men forward, or suffer the consequences!" Random Stormtrooper: "You just killed the captain, sir." Vader: "Oh,"(turns to Luke)"You go tell whoever's in charge now that he should lead his men up to that hill." Luke: "That would be me, sir." Vader: "Okay then. What's your name again?" Luke: "Luke Skywalker sir." (Vader's metallic jaw drops to the floor)

[@Micha-wb9oz]

He could prolly sense his michlorian count / strength in the force or something

[@videogamehighlights4209]

​@@KaiHung-wv3ul Vader wouldnt shoot

[@silverblade357]

I get the impression that the name Skywalker isn't all that rare or special on Tatooine. Kinda like the bastard surnames in Game of Thrones. I mean, Anakin's mother was a slave who was born into slavery. Vader only learn who Luke was after connecting him to Owen and Beru.

[@aaronlawson2137]

I mean yeah you think about how many trillions of people are in the galaxy and how many billions are in the empire there's only so many last names at some point additionally force sensitives do join the empire it's even fairly common without the Jedi order running midichlorian checks most people don't ever even realize it but like the red guard are lesser force sensitives like there'd always be the chance if luke rose high enough in the ranks Vader may suspect something but it could go either way I just mean to say that it's possible it could just be a coincidence

[@blackcat940]

What if Anakin had visions of order 66 instead of padme dying of childbirth? What if Anakin went undercover instead of Obi-Wan? What if tup was taken to the jedi temple instead of getting the atomic brain scan? What if shmi skywalker had a child with Clegg lars?

[@10sticksofbutterandbread34]

"Time to give Anakin the visions." *Anakin sees Palpatine execute order 66 through visions.* "SHIT WRONG VISIONS."

[@seanrobert9661]

ooowwwwwoooooo

[@whitewolfcrowley6550]

@@10sticksofbutterandbread34 "Anakin, you are very sick, go to the PSYOPS Dept. immediately.!" -Palpatine says in a shitty trickery voice-

[@Ved000000]

@@whitewolfcrowley6550 Clone troopers, this man is delusional, take him to the infirmary.

[@whitewolfcrowley6550]

@@Ved000000 Lol right. A Medical station at that.

[@Amadeus8484]

Yoda: "One Job, You had Obiwan."

[@ghosthuntergames9123]

Mad I am, at you. Take my ketamine to calm down, I must

[@IkarosVonVoid]

@@ghosthuntergames9123To burn the skywalker it was!

[@wingedparagon4448]

Loved all of this, save for one thing. Leia was so strong in the force, but could not sense it from Luke, or hear that Vader called him his son, by extension her brother since she knew him as her father. That part just seemed a little off... would have been better if Leia had escaped, giving Luke something to chase while under Thrawns watchful eye.

[@themanyouwanttobe]

I was thinking that would be a great setup for a part 2 of this. Leia gets away, Luke hunts her down, Thrawn reorganizes the Empire. Heck, maybe somehow Maul reveals himself to Luke since he'll still be lurking around, obsessed with revenge. Thrawn would certainly piece together that Vader revealed he was Luke's father and he was one of the few who knew Vader's past. Luke would need to learn the Force from someone if he were to hunt Leia and Ezra, who he knew about, and Ashoka and Cal, who were still out there. A "Rule of Two" between Maul as a criminal underworld kingpin and Luke as an Imperial Grand Admiral would be an awesome dynamic.

[@MarkoDash]

and merely being spaced wouldn't kill Vader, nor would being thrown from an orbital station cause him to fall towards the planet.

[@egrintarg230]

I love these what ifs. It is just like watching Star Wars for the first time all over again.

[@kenkaneki9176]

What if Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus was sent back in time to the clone wars time period? What if Valkorian had returned during the Clone Wars?

[@andrewspears8891]

Yes please.

[@LilT8]

Jacen would lose his mind lmfao

[@surferdude4487]

This is one of the best "what If's" ever. Not an ideal solution, but Thron as emporer would not allow his own ego to get in the way of being a most efficient ruler.

[@ASB117]

1:00:00 Dagobah was a dark side locus, Yoda was using it to hide. It wasn't light side at all.

[@benjaminobienu5297]

Talk about a twist ending, and I LOVE IT! Luke joining the Imperial Academy would have given him a better life as a pilot and vice-admiral in the Imperial Navy. And who knew Luke is good at his job and felt like Luke being a vice admiral would suit him best, and being similar to Thrawn would make him his equal. Not until Darth Vader ( Anakin Skywalker) sabotaged Luke's work to join his side. At least Vader is impressed his son is doing more time focusing on his projects and at least cares about his interests. But Leia being gunned down by Luke is very dark and almost sad, for Luke does not realize he just murdered his long-lost sister in cold blood, and it could be far worse if Bail Organa learned her adopted daughter was murdered, and Obi-Wan might have gone into a deep depression. On the bright side, Thrawn became the new Emperor of the Galatic Empire; at least a galactic empire under Thrawn would be way better than Sidious since he plans to live forever. I imagine Thrawn forming his new political dynasty, Vurawn-Skywalker Dynasty, with Thrawn as Emperor and Luke as his heir. Too evil Vader wouldn't have Luke as his apprentice and would be pissed at Thrawn for becoming the new Emperor and making Luke his heir if he were forced ghost, and Palpatine would have been way angrier if Thrawn is now taking his place as Emperor. What is your personal opinion, Mr. Pente Patrol? My two great what-if ideas are: What if Anakin was taken in by Satine Kyrze, Duchess of Mandalore, when he was kicked out by the Jedi Order for being too emotional as a young padawan? What role would Satine play for Anakin, and what his relationship be with Bo Katan? What if the Clone Wars instead becomes the Mobile Wars with dark force users piloting mechas? Do you prefer the descendants of the siths driving these machines, or do you want new enemies for the Jedi? Anyway, this is great; what if video, my friend, and may the force be with you!!

[@ericgaines5470]

Just one problem his friends only joined the academy to defect to the rebels. They were there before Luke was. So idk maybe that should be considered for a next one.

[@mrstar1038]

Twist ending my ass. Leia is just another Rey. Killing the most powerful sith lord in seconds. 0/10

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

@@mrstar1038 She is a literally skywalker so it isn’t impossible especially being trained

[@mrstar1038]

@@enriqueperezarce5485 And Darth Vader is they guy who only died because he let himself. It is also unlikely that Vader would blow up the ship Palpatine was on that's not what the sith do. But back to my point. Vader would not have died so easily and because he didn't know she was his daughter he would have shown no remorse. Darth Vader is the guy who has survived being chopped into pieces, burnt all over, crushed by Sidious and forced to survive without the force and beat an assassin with his B1 and Super Battle droid limbs, tamed space creatures the size of a dozen elephants, killed three jedi at once with one arm without a lightsaber. This is ALL cannon. Should I go on?

[@edgareliseev1773]

What if Grievous had been burned, but managed to see though Douku's manipulations and then joined the Republic?

[@RyunosukeHachi]

I sincerely doubt that even then, that Grievous would join the Republic, given that the Republic took the side of the Huk without inspecting everything going on between the Huk and the Kaleesh.

[@griffin5653]

Never going to happen, his hatred of the Jedi is too strong

[@edgareliseev1773]

@@griffin5653 Everything can change. And even then, he's simply gonna become a black ops commander in the Empire

[@mesiagamer5217]

@@RyunosukeHachi In legends absolutely not maybe he would the neutral systems however he already hated the Jedi and republic in legends. What duku and Sidus did was literally the final push. In canon, though it's ironically enough far more people seeing the jedi as weak generals and having a reason to join at the very least to show them up. That's at the very least if that's the change point.

[@Zaprozhan]

More likely he'd join the Rebellion than the Republic, if he lived that long. If he turned on Douku, it would probably be a personal vengeance, and try to kill him. If that was unsuccessful, he'd probably go rogue, and wage a one-man war of revenge. Grievious strikes me as amoral, so the Separatists would have to screw him over on the same scale the Republic did for him to change sides. Douku's manipulation is Douku manipulating Grievious, not the Separatists manipulating him.

[@michelelyons9410]

In the original story, Luke was faced with what many young men in our history were faced with. That joining the army (whatever army was offered) was the only way to get away from the poverty and drudgery of a life in their home towns. In return for service, Luke would have gotten training, an education, room and board and some financial support, gotten away from a planet he hated and gotten a chance to travel and learn to fly. To make some sort of life and future for himself. Plus he would be able to send money back to his family. To his way of thinking, it was a perfect solution. It is an old story, one that has been going on in human history for as long as there has been history. Owen apparently did not have anything much against the Empire, as one would expect from poor subsistence farmers who live far from any city or from any of the depredations of the Empire. He, in turn, did not raise Luke to hate the Empire. To them, like to many people who are just trying to live and get along, who is doing the ruling makes very little difference. What difference did it make if the Republic or the Empire ruled? It was all the same to their lives. To farmers like Owen and Luke, the Empire was very far away, and had very little to do with their lives. They had never suffered from any actions of the Empire. So there was no animosity in Luke toward the Empire-----until the Empire gave him a reason. Actually I never really did understand the bloodlust that the Empire showed. Why did the Stormtroopers leave a trail of death and destruction in their wake in searching for the droids with the stolen plans? What difference would it make if a few farmers and Jawas knew the Empire was looking for a couple of droids? No one could have known why, and the only thing they did was draw attention to their actions. When the Stormtroopers searched the town, they were not slaughtering everyone in sight. So why the massacre of the Jawas and the murder of Owen and Beru? Just for fun? for the hell of it? Just because they're the bad guys? What makes the idea of Luke joining the Empire's army so interesting is how Obi wan would have reacted and what the Empire would have done if they discovered Luke's power in the Force. Because the Empire was going out of their way to eliminate---or pervert---Force users. If they even did discover it. Luke himself did not know, and with no one to teach him, he might only have remained a talented pilot. It seems unlikely that he would ever have come to the attention of Darth Vader or the Emperor. Would Luke, after seeing some of the depredations of the Empires' forces have eventually joined the Rebellion anyway? Would he and Obi-wan ever have met at all? It makes for interesting speculation.

[@HisRoyalMajestyKingofWeedshire]

Jawas tried to sell them a bad Droid

[@FernandoLopez-oh4ys]

What if Vader Actually trained the Inquisitors. Vader as we know, thought the Inquisitors were useless. So Vader would Actually train them properly, while balancing his duties. The Grand Inquisitor would probably kill Reva because she's to much trouble. The Grand Inquisitor would kill Kanan and take Ezra. The other Inquisitor would kill Cal Kestus and the others. Palpatine would be afraid of their powers and would order Vader to kill them. This won't be easy. The Inquisitors would fight back and possibly injured Vader. It would be cool to see them be a threat.

[@imonlyhumanafterall.]

I have been thinking about this for a while now. And suddenly, you made a video about it. This was such a great story. I would have liked it if Leia found out that Luke was her brother just before dying but this was still a very solid ending. Good job, brother.

[@onlinegametime]

I loved this ending, it's definitely different because I didn't know how to could of end. It was a amazing story.

[@CrazyKungfuGirl]

My first thought at the title was the awkward situation where Luke C.O. yells "Skywalker!" And Vader answers out of habit 🤣

[@IkarosVonVoid]

Comedy gold.

[@oilybat3269]

The entire room is just like “YOOOOO”

[@TomBrawns]

This makes me wonder if Vader had ever felt any type of connection to Leia. I mean, she is HIS daughter. But there must have been some reason he wrote it off, possibly her connection to Obi-wan. Hell, maybe he was waiting for her to come into contact with Old Ben again. Vader is very patient as seen with Reva.

[@nicholasroach880]

Love your story. But I do have one gripe. Dagobah did not radiate in the lightside of the force. It radiated with the DARK side of the force. That is why Yoda went there to cloak himself from the Empire and its agents. It radiated so strongly with the dark side of the force that (I believe it was a dark side nexus.) That is why Luke in the original trilogy had an easier rime of resisting the Dark side after his training with Master Yoda because he was already used to focusing on the light.

[@DerNomade1871]

Missed opportunity for Owen to hit Obi-Wan with that "like you did his father" remark again to humble ben again

[@theundeadbeholder284]

Wow. Your "what if" story is impressive!. I have read, watched, and heard almost everything Star Wars since the 70's, and your story is one of my favorites! Really congratulations, and thanks for sharing this wonderful tale. Keep up the amazing work!

[@Browninthadesert]

I loved this story, very good storytelling. Vader going out pretty easy was a little disappointing but I can get over it

[@dark___matter_]

Disney needs this man now.

[@FranticBlaster]

This should be turned into a What If movie 😯

[@calebhendricks1375]

This is amazing because Luke brought balance to the force WAY more than him siding with the Jedi did

[@ch62013]

What if Grevious's ship accidentally exploded due to a droid malfunction and took Dooku, Palpatine, and Grevious out before Anakin and Obi-Wan could aboard the ship?

[@AskTorin]

Then Ani wouldn't have been able to absorb Duke's dark Soul poor Ani wouldn't be able to save padme from himself awwww

[@Feashis]

*Roll Credits*

[@Unit-3475]

There would be a grandiose carom in the galactic political arena. The struggle for the vacuum of power and most likely the aggravation of the crisis, since the situation is completely out of control now. It doesn't matter who wins - the galaxy will be extremely unstable and possibly even worse than it was before the war. Moreover, the galaxy would not have known about the threat of the Yuuzhan Vong. Given how fucked up they were, it's quite possible that this is the end. Palpatine was a bastard, but it was vital to transform the Republic into an Empire.

[@ryanwolf2229]

Love it

[@ryanwolf2229]

Jar jar touched a few buttons and those a people die ?

[@canonlindgren5945]

Wow! Guess Luke brings balance with his boss in an unexpected way!

[@66BricksYt]

Amazing theory, I thought it was really interesting how Vader chose not to train him sooner and that Luke never new he had a sister and that leia never new she had a brother. Great work and theory idea : what if Kanan survived

[@akuladoctor7355]

The reason it makes sense is, because he is forbidden to do so. Even showing Luke to Palpatine was a risky move. In order to protect Luke from the Emperor the best course of action is to remain indifferent to him as much as possible, and even control his own feelings, and thoughts. Simply viewing Luke as an Imperial asset, and nothing more.

[@DragunovJ]

As someone who saw the movie back in 1977... Luke made it pretty clear that he was going to join the academy to learn and go AWOL to join the rebellion. Even Obi Wan shut him down on the topic while handing him his father's lightsaber.

[@penzorphallos3199]

He sure says so, but academies were shown in media as potent indoctrination centers capable of making friends kill each other for competitions. Strong-headed Luke would be singled out by teachers and students alike, before getting picked up by elite scouts like in the video or dark side acolytes with not enough rest to think of an escape plan.

[@Ved000000]

Yeah, this was apparently a plan his little group had. Go get some training, steal a ship or two and bail. Biggs ends up on Yavin in the end too.

[@AndrewAce.]

Same with Biggs. There's even a deleted scene where I believe he talks about how he always intended to desert the Empire...

[@RCracer7223]

One thing to keep in mind, if Luke would have joined Biggs and the rest of the group as planned they would have had a group sense of loyalty, not only to themselves, but those that supported the group, aka the Empire. Add to it the accolades and promotions received by the group in this story, it would not surprise me at all for them to give up on their original idea to join the Rebellion and stay with the Empire. I think them not going as a group is what made Biggs want to get out of the Empire and back to his friends as soon as he could.

[@KertaDrake]

@@RCracer7223 Plus, Luke was doing REALLY well and shooting up in the ranks enough to perhaps make a difference from the inside... and with Vader stalking around at random due to interest in Luke's projects, defecting would probably end up with a rather merciless end before they even got out of weapons range in a ship.

[@PickleRick65]

I cannot see Sir Alec Guinness yelling at anyone...he seemed Much more grounded than that

[@aray8266]

Honestly I have to say this is by far one of the best videos you've done so far, I like the creativity imagination and the willingness to separate from the original story. it all fits and it all makes perfect sense. The only thing that didn't make very much sense was the point of getting all of the smaller kyber crystals to function, I thought that working with covered crystals was like the equivalent of working with uranium, and the reason that they went with the larger crystals was because they were more stable then the smaller ones. For example of how unstable the smaller ones are may I respectfully remind you of the lightsaber rifle?

[@timkim1234]

Thank you so much. I love the intro of the Grand Inquisitor saying hello. Luke Skywalker’s my favourite Star Wars character.

[@jakerooke174]

Bruh having Vader run towards you has got to be the worst experience anyone in the empire can have

[@spiderbow4599]

That, would be quite scary

[@ultrasonic4220]

I don’t know how I feel about Leia beating Vader. I don’t think she could pull of beating a guy who is 80% of The Emperor power.

[@mike-mz6yz]

Leia is a Skywalker! if she was fully trained she would be more powerful then the emperor. She would be as close to Anakin reaching full potential as possible. You could argue it would take her longer then this to reach that power level, but her fully trained should crazy level of power.

[@edquad2765]

@@mike-mz6yz not to mention that it's always been implied that Leia has the higher level of force potential and power between Luke and Leia. If Leia trained in the force, she'd be crazy powerful. And in star wars legends, she was crazy powerful after training

[@thatoneguy5343]

@@edquad2765 George said in the official Return of the Jedi commentary that Luke and Leia’s potential in the force is equal.

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

@@thatoneguy5343 So it’s entirely possible to beat Vader then

[@sihilius]

I don't think she'd just rush in and go for a kill. That really doesn't fit her charakter.

[@KeyMasterX]

What if Thrawn gifted a Tie Defender to Darth Vader before Thrawn's disappearance? It would be possible since Vader was able to test fly a Tie Defender in Canon and even said he supported Thrawn's project.

[@onekingdom1955]

Fantastic work This goes so in depth for a small change. Honestly couldn't expect any of this

[@Dragon_Werks]

What If... 1) The Incom design team had actually turned over the X-Wing designs to the Empire instead of defecting to the Rebels? 2) Anakin had killed Palpatine instead of cutting off Mace Windu's arms? 3) The Separatists had managed to get the Death Star plans and build it?

[@riddell26]

The Death Star was designed by the seperatists (primarily the Techno Union and Geonosians) in the first place. And they did start building it during the war, thats why the frame was nearly complete by the end of Ep3.

[@luathien]

1:10:07 Endor? NO! Well, I suppose no one would miss the carnivorous Ewoks. Could've used Dantooine or Hoth or maybe Yavin 4 as a test target for the demonstration, though. Anyways, this is a great "What If" story!

[@ericcrabtree7075]

What if anakin found HK-47 Statement: greetings meatbags (Padme and Qui Gon)

[@rossnorris2351]

This is a brilliant story as usual. You have inspired me to further depths in a Star Wars TTRPG im running.

[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

That was TRULY INSPIRED‼️ CONGRATULATIONS to you and Cameron‼️ Seriously, I’m stunned by the Magnificent of the quality. It is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE SUPERIOR to the “Sequel Trilogy‼️ BRAVISSIMO‼️ Much L♥️VE to You, Cameron and the Whole of Team Pente Patrol Star Was‼️‼️‼️🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼💯💯💯 Ps. This was the First time I’ve watched your channel. At the end of your EPIC Story I had no choice but to Subscribe‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯

[@3.75istheway7]

Surprising that the empire allowed the resources to go to replace tie fighters with much, much better tie fighter and a much more expensive tie fighter

[@cr90captain89]

well with a better fighter the pilots are going to have higher kill ratios, and more successful missions, a tie defender makes every star craft in the rebellion look like a fricken joke.

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

Bro the tie defender while more expensive was a menace

[@huntclanhunt9697]

TIEs are great fighters. They're faster than Xwings, have incredible firepower with their twin lasers (3 shots per movie frame as opposed to 1 for an Xwing) and compliment the Star Destroyers well. Shields are overrated since at best they fend off one or two shots. Imperial casualties were so high because the Rebels repeatedly used the same few squadrons, meaning their pilots had on average much more experience than the imperials, who were spread out far more.

[@Firefrab]

@@huntclanhunt9697 they actually can also turn on the spot, allowing them to easily outmaneuver and outturn Rebel starfrighters, save maybe an a wing

[@ZeKermet]

Lol leia was just the party pooper here summarized 💀

[@a.d.janson]

This was amazing, the best thing I’ve seen on KZbin in many months

[@ClueRN]

This is my favourite “What if” on Star Wars thank you for posting this I love the idea of Luke and Thrawn being friends and I completely agree with you that Cameron completely nailed this

[@garethebbrell5521]

I enjoyed that more than 95% of the Star Wars books I’ve read. Good work 😊

[@karlpeterson9334]

So, in the alternate time line, no more Ewoks.

[@2creamy4you15]

My heart was always racing when Luke and Darth Vader was together especially in the beginning felt like I was actually watching a movie

[@brixenlang3207]

27:56 She’s chokin’, how, everybody’s jokin’ now The clock runs out, time’s up, over, PLOW

[@PentePatrolStarWars]

Snap back to reality

[@zfilms4858]

That wasn't just Vader who killed that unnamed imperial at 22:22 for his mistakes, it was also remnant of Anakin killing that guy for putting his son in danger! (For one, the Jedi and Sith agree on something violent)

[@carlosliberated9302]

LOL - yeah this whole thing makes me think back to Ep4 - seemed like Luke didn't really care if he joined the Imperials or the Rebels. He just didn't want to be on Tatooine.

[@marksellenthin9639]

Here are the best Star Wars Stories on KZbin Loved the more imp Rangs and characters in there

[@victordavila9812]

Man this was such a good and creative story you are definitely talented I hope you keep makin more stories like this you got a new subscriber

[@Caviar_Liberta]

Leia: this light saber carries to much emotional baggage, I need my own.

[@tylerhaunted]

I can't help but think that Christoph Waltz would be the best actor for Thrawn. Thrawn and Luke would be such a powerhouse.

[@wingedblaze5985]

This, single what if scenario, would make a better movie than all of the Disney sequels combined. Even just as an audio book I would still buy it. Absolutely amazing ❤️‍🔥

[@COACHWARBLE]

Great story but I’ve been wondering the same thing. Luke would have been found when he was in training. Vader would see Luke glowing in the force. There were so little light side force users that Luke would glow in the darkness.

[@Kaiju-Driver]

I love how detailed these videos are. Great work.

[@karlthorsten9118]

"HELLO." Perfect intro. I hope this what if scenario gets updated with fan-made concept art and imagery to fit the story as it is being told.

[@korymccauley3925]

These really do just keep getting better and better. Keep up the incredible work man!

[@ArmouredProductions]

Next should be What If Han Solo stayed as an Imperial. Then combine these two, with Luke and Han as the two top pilots in the Empire.

[@kenkaneki9176]

This was pretty great! I didn't expect that ending. That was a really good twist.

[@deltaraven]

52:50 😊 Luke was curious about himself so Vader shows up 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Zaprozhan]

I liked this story. It went in logical reasonable directions, and kept the characters reasonable and consistent. Only change I would make is Vader taking the promising Skywalker under his wing sooner. Farmboys making breakthroughs in super-sophisticated projects is a real thing. Chuck Yeager's teenage farmhand and oil-field experience assisted the X-1 project, and my 2nd cousin, trained in motorcycle repair, is employed as an engineering team member for a big-machine manufacturer.

[@PentePatrolStarWars]

I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@deejayxcrypt]

I remember that, long long ago, in the Legends/Exp.Univ. there was at least one version of an *ending for the whole series* where “Empire” (or whatever the name was for the similar “nemesis-type” group at that moment) does win over “the *good* protagonist force” but there’s no force sensitive people at all left alive anymore, and the “until that point evil Empire regime” just slowly becomes a nicer type of governance.

[@Dragoninja26]

This is the highest quality SW What if I've seen, very excited to check out the others

[@bigjoem9808]

Here’s a crazy one What if Anakin Skywalker was kidnapped, adopted and raised by Tusken Raiders

[@Kreachie]

Also I have a couple good “What ifs” What if Anakin Told Obi-Wan about what Palpatine told him about Darth Plagueis during the Mon Calamari Opera? Or What if General Grevious was still Alive or Dueling Obi-Wan When Order 66 was given? And OR What if Leia joined the Imperials to “Try to rework the Empire from within” like an opposite to what happened here?

[@10sticksofbutterandbread34]

I can imagine the first one Anakin: "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?" Obi Wan: "Darth Plagu... have you lost your mind Anakin!"

[@COACHWARBLE]

Silver blade. This is fantastic content. Wow. I listen to about 3 hrs a day of SW content. Great lore usage

[@SuikodenGR]

Very solid what if. Really enjoyed the story 🙂 Now a NEW Age of the Empire is born, but under the guidance of Thrawn and Luke. I think it would be less terrorizing with Palpatine.

[@COACHWARBLE]

I’m at 32:10. Thrown knew Anakin Skywalker personally. When he heard Luke’s name he would recognize it. Chiss force users are known as Skywalkers.

[@frankthetank8050]

"Hellooo!" "Goodbye!"

[@halilsonkur3441]

Vader after hearing skywalker: now thats a name i have not heard in a long time.., a long time

[@orionfettes5501]

I absolutely love this channel the what ifs are so professionally done it's obvious you love this franchise just as much as us and you want to see it thrive and that makes me really happy because of how toxic this fandom has become recently keep up the good work and May the force be with you

[@PentePatrolStarWars]

Thank you so much!

[@E_duckYT]

"Emperor Thrawn" Oh god he sounds terrifying Thrawn as an admiral could decimate entire fleets with just his 1 fleet Just imagine what he could do with the whole empire at his disposal

[@EvilGingerChill]

That was such a great story!!! Such unique outcomes I was shook!!!

[@Swirl_of_StarFire]

I find it hilarious that Luke ended up destroying the Death Star in this timeline too, just in a completely different manner

[@RedneckRapture]

Wouldn't Yoda and Kenobi have sensed the destruction of the last two sith and come out of hiding to re-establish the Jedi? Empire or Republic, loose Force wielders are not something you want to go without training. Thrawn would probably be well versed enough to know they needed one or the other.

[@mysteryminx2619]

There's a lot of great thought put into this. As, yes, one of the 1977 Boots On The Ground Tail Gunner Boomers, this has gone on for possibly more years than you know. Luke is actually 20 when we meet the Lars family in "Star Wars:First Of Its Name" (it received "episode IV" and "A New Hope' in 1983), his age established by Alan Dean Foster's (ghost writing for GL) introduction of '..Twice the age of the ten-year-old Vaporator he stood beside" (a little artistic license) and then a very terse dinner, Owen's excuses are wearing thinner and everyone knows it -- and results in the ultimate teenage angst tantrum employed throughout the galaxy (guilty) "Yeah, that's what you said when Biggs and Tank left... *huff* ... push away from table ..."Luke, where are you going?" "Looks, like I'm going nowhere ..." Cut to: Sulk in the garage = Life changing event. The Boomer Fan Speaks, and YES it's a REAL GIRL! I cannot tell you HOW many times, over how many conventions, myself and our little posse would listen to this nonsense until one of us (largely this typist) did all the math as said, "WHAT THE *BLANK* ACADEMY DO YOU THINK FARMBOY IS TALKING ABOUT?! IT'S THE IMPERIAL ACADEMY! AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK INSIDE! HOW LONG do you think it's going to take out at Corrida or wherever he enters for someone to get on the phone to Coruscant and say, 'You know ... I've got this great kid in our newest class of pilots and he's just dusting them, I think you need to strongly consider extending him entry into the Royal Academy, I have no doubt he is going to be an asset to the Navy and rise very quickly up the commander ladder ... yeah.. no, the kid is amazing ... Tatooine, if you can believe it ... Nope, got his jacket in front of me ... Name is Skywalker.'" Over the years, reactions of dawning realizations have run the gamut of horror and utter delight. And so, I give to you, Owen Lars, BEST Star Wars Dad in history (It certainly came up in "Kenobi", he met his stepbrother once. That's all it took. Owen doesn't have a lot of use for Jedis and I don't blame him (In addition to becoming a successful nerd, I am the product of a working Farm and Ranch, Harvest is INDEED when you bring in extra help, when it is in or shipped and safe THAT'S when you finally relax. And try to make it up to your pouting kid who's lost his friends and there really ISN'T anything to do. (Currently Din Djarin is the best SW Dad in the Galaxy) And Luke may have flown under the upper command radar for another couple of weeks until ... there's TWO right people who would see that name and the die is cast. Which, retroactively having gone from the huffy teenager when I met the gang in the galaxy far, far away, every girl my age fell in love Han Solo, (I jumped ship in 1980 and signed onto a TIE squadron, saw them shoot "Jedi" in 1983 in the California desert, ended working on a couple of things for Lucasfilm, published an article in 'Star Wars Insider' and gained a group of friends at LFL that I wouldn't trade for love or money nor "Fortune and Glory" Boonta Eve medal is a nice touch. A touchstone connecting the triptych together. In your work how would Owen know Anakin had become Vader? Kenobi certainly knows it, but he's excellent at being tightlipped and evasive, and in very nebulous terms explains half-truths to Luke following their encounter in Beggar's Canyon. I DO like where this AR is taking us. It's fun and creative, and I enjoy anything that involves Kallus. (Standard TIE/LN fighters, nor any TIE model does not have Hyperspace capabilities, nor shields until the introduction of the Defender, which made it a complete game changer.) Luke taking an advancement into the Inquisitors is an interesting idea.

[@padmeSkywalker]

This is where the fun begins

[@3.75istheway7]

I grew up and my father passed when I was 3, so I 100% understand the felling of not knowing who you are, what you came from! It’s is a longing that will never be! I always say I just wish I could remember what he sounded like!

[@jeraldhall4603]

I enjoyed this story and I thought it was an interesting choice, not training Luke in the force. In the original trilogy there were glimpses of him tinkering and fixing things, so it is easily believable that he would excel in that area, so well done in using that in this story. My only criticism is not about this story, it is about the announcement of the next story "What if Grievous turned Obi-Wan to the dark side. Grievous was not force sensitive and there was almost nothing left of his organic body. Yes in the prequel trilogy he does state that he has been trained in the Jedi arts, but he does not say trained in the force. Grievous was a warrior trained as a warrior from birth, and his race was a warrior race, so learning the combat styles of the Jedi or Sith means nothing in this instance. Even if you adjust the canon to make him force sensitive you still have to account for the fact that there is so little of his organic body left. I fear that video will be the worst story you have done on this channel, I have generally enjoyed most if not all of the stories on this channel so far, and I will watch it, but be ready for me to post comments and not be supportive of it. It is possible that all of these issues will be addressed and I could enjoy it, but I am very skeptical of that at this time. If you wanted to do a what if where Obi-Wan turned to the dark side I think you would be better off having Dooku turn him while he is being held on Geonosis, that sounds like it could actually be a better and more compelling story that Grievous turning him. I am just saying I see a lot of issues with Grievous turning him to the dark side.

[@derekvandewarker4211]

I mean it doesn’t require a dark side user to turn someone. All it could take is some trauma or really good convincing to be able to flip someone.

[@jeraldhall4603]

@@derekvandewarker4211 Good point, but Grievous doesn't seem persuasive enough to that, and as for trauma, Obi-Wan didn't turn when Duchess Satine was killed in canon, so Grievous would still be a hard sell, but I am posting after the release of "What is Obi-Wan joined Dooku" on this channel, so I think that was a better choice.

[@derekvandewarker4211]

@@jeraldhall4603 I 100% agree idt greivous could ever be able to turn obi wan to the dark side but it is possible for him to do it technically.

[@unoriginalandrew]

It seems more likely that Vader would sense a special power and simply acknowledge that there was potential there if he ever needed more followers. He, in my mind, wouldn't be having an inner dialogue of Sith and Jedi because he hates both and knows that the force isn't that black and white.

[@KeyMasterX]

I do enjoy stories that results in Thrawn being in charge.

[@brokenbridge6316]

I really liked the dynamic between Leia n Obi-Wan. It felt really good. Really natural.

[@chandlerdoeswhatifs9399]

what if Palpatine actually cared about Anakin?

[@Shannay.]

It happened already here is the what if star wars video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKe8e3aNo7p3bpI

[@Jerry-tg7zx]

I was almost convinced you were a bot before i opened the link

[@Shannay.]

@@Jerry-tg7zx oof i am not cuz i have a youtube channel videos

[@pirategrldez]

I love the plot twist at the end. I did not see it coming.

[@tox1cboi_524]

Endor: gets ordered to be destroyed. Me: Nooo the Ewoks :(

[@thefierysword5304]

52:51 btwyou accidentally said "Luke was curious" instead of "darth vader was curious" apart from that this is an amazing fan fic

[@thefierysword5304]

also, wasnt't Ezra alive, making him the last jedi at the end?

[@spaceengineeringempire4086]

If I’m correct with thron in charge most of the corruption of the empire would be eliminated, most of the fools removed from power and the most needlessly cruel (to a point that it’s counterproductive) would be placed in positions with no chance of effecting anything.