Brown Inks Comparison #1

In this video I compare Brown Fountain Pen inks that I have in my collection.
Akkerman SBRE Brown
Akkerman Dutch Masters Hals Oud Bruin
Robert Oster Gold Antiqua
Diamine Ochre
De Atramentis Chocolate
Diamine Ancient Copper
Diamine Burnt Sienna
Diamine Chocolate Brown
Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz
The pen used in this ink comparison is the William Shakour Titan Dip Pen, it’s a pen made by a UK Pen Collector William Shakour. I have a review of several of William's Titan pens including the full size and dip pens along with other accessories. You can see them on this playlist • William Shakour
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[@Chris-gp2ft]

De Atramentis chocolate looks really great! Thank you for your video

[@aumshanti2514]

I'd add Diamine Ancient Copper, Waterman 4001 Brilliant Brown and of course the very gorgeous JH 1670 Caroube De Chypre! I also adore Noodler's Walnut Brown and Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Guri! There's something very special about writing with brown inks...! Great comparisons! 💜💐

[@aumshanti2514]

Haha that's what happens when you respond without watching the whole video...!

[@PenultimateDave]

Noodler's Walnut Brown is definitely one I want to try.

[@paulmetdebbie447]

4001 brilliant brown is from Pelikan. And yes, it's a great color.

[@meshzzizk]

Yama-Guri and Noodlers Walnut are my two favorite browns! I also currently have De Atramentis Document Sepia in my Lamy 2000, one of my main work pens, and it's definitely a contender for the top brown spot (wish it was just a hair darker, tho).

[@kevinu.k.7042]

These comparative reviews are so helpful. FWIW I'm writing with Diamine Ancient Copper today. From a wet broad Lamy Al-Star nib it has quite a bit of shading. I rather like it. I'm using it in a Clairefontaine Age Bag A4 notebook.

[@0xss]

I always have a pen inked with Diamine Chocolate brown! Lovely color

[@PenultimateDave]

I think I'm going to have to ink it up more!

[@nameissturdy1390]

I have a question please. Is this color proper for someone to use at work?

[@peteazouz6072]

Very nice selection, and some unexpected ones here, particularly enjoying the Diamine Ochre.. so I added it to my next order.

[@PenultimateDave]

Thanks Pete, the Diamine Ochre for me is very close to SBRE Brown, I've found this with a lot of Diamine and Akkerman inks, if you can't get one you can usually get an almost identical shade.

[@jamesaritchie1]

I like brown inks quite a bit, and you have one of my three favorite browns here. It's the De Atramentis Chocolate. I think it's a great brown from writing letters. My other two favorites are Waterman Absolute Brown, and Montblanc Toffee Brown.

[@JuceePeachz67]

Great video Dave. I am currently trying a sample of Waterman Absolute Brown. It is a really nice shade of brown.

[@pamelaboxall7015]

Lovely selection as usual. To my eye, the red-brown inks belong better in with brown than the gold-brown ones, but that's personal choice. My favourite brown inks are Graf von Faber-Castell Hazelnut Brown and Herbin Cacao du Bresil which lives on the border between brown and grey.

[@PenultimateDave]

GvFC Hazelnut Brown has been on my to buy list for several years now but I never have picked up a bottle, I think around the time I added it to my wishlist I added Pilot Iroshizuku Tsukushi and fell in love with that and haven't wanted a hazelnut brown since.

[@pamelaboxall7015]

@@PenultimateDave I've only tried one Iroshizuku and that was just a sample, but I was very impressed by it.

[@yuklimka7251]

I have a thing for brown inks, so it's quite interesting to see them in a comparison video. For a reddish brown J. Herbin, Cafe des Iles is my go-to atm. But I recently bought quite a few Diamine inks that I still need to swatch and try out in a pen. I also have three brown Monteverde inks: Scotch Brown, Brown Sugar and Canyon Rust. Sailor Jentle do-you looks almost black in an EF nib, I think. Robert Oster isn't widely available where I live, but I may be able to get samples.

[@manuelb.p.6932]

Montblanc Toffee Brown is also a nice Brown ink....thanks for the comparison

[@CaptPeanutBut]

Love the selection of inks and great review. Thanks :)

[@chrislj2890]

Looking through my swatches I have my favorite Noodler's Brown, and also Sailor Shikiori Okuyama, Iroshizuku Tsukushi, Colorverse Methuselah Grove, Monteverde Moonstone, Pelikan Brilliant Brown, Diamine Burnt Sienna (mine doesn't look as red as yours), Monteverde Copper Noir, and Noodler's Rome Burning. This Rome Burning is very interesting, going on as brown but if you run water over it yellow seeps out and leaves a permanent purple on the paper. Nathan Tardiff is very clever when it comes to unusual inks.

[@PenultimateDave]

I'm definitely going to have to try some of those browns. I've avoided Colorverse mostly because of the price point, a few friends have recommended the Monteverde Copper Noir to me and Noodler's Rome Burning. I don't yet have any Sailor Shikiori inks yet but I may have to look at getting some.

[@chrislj2890]

@@PenultimateDave The Colorverse I got for free when I bought a pen during the holidays. I don't think I will ever buy any of their inks since I don't think they are worth the money. That Sailor is the only one I own other than Jentle Black and it's really nice, but they are expensive, running $24 or $25 for 50 ml and $15 for 20 ml. I received my Diamine Blue Edition inks and they are fun, and I'm using the "Holly" right now. It's a nice dark green with red sheen and good shading.

[@richardsimms251]

Nice review.

[@Michelt007]

Great review! I like the use of swatch to reveal the fine details about ink, such as how much they shade or sheen or shimmer (none did here) which may be difficult for the camera to pick up from writing samples, even when they are present. For "symmetry", I was expecting that Diamine Raw Sienna (looks similar to Diamine Ochre) would be shown next to its brother Burnt Sienna, but it will maybe be covered into another review!

[@Richard_Barnes]

I like the SBRE Brown but it is very light in my pens. I’m waiting on a broad nib TWSBI so I can hopefully enjoy them more. Don’t forget, the one thing your swatches do not show. The SBRE Brown ink was made for it’s shading properties. When you write with it you get amazing shading all the time. You don’t see that in any ink swatch., 😀👍🏻

[@katjaengelkamp3452]

Thank you, Dave, very useful! I thought GvFC Hazelnut Brown and Montblanc Toffee Brown could be nice suggestions for a next brown ink comparison?

[@PenultimateDave]

I still don't have GvFC Hazlenut Brown yet but it's on my list to get, I do have Montblanc Toffee Brown and use it quite a bit, a much darker brown.

[@Seefood73]

@@PenultimateDave I see so many mentions of the toffee, I was certain I'd see it in this comparison! Well, awaiting part 2...

[@bostonjuan9537]

Pro trick : you can watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies lately.

[@lakd77]

I like Smoky Quartz but my favorite brown is Pilot Iroshizuku Tsukushi.

[@sistergoldenhair0727]

Browns are very hard for me because I only like really dark browns and so many of these dry too light. I need a dark that stays dark when it dries;)

[@PenultimateDave]

Yes that's exactly how I started out only liking the dark browns but have since gone to more mid-browns and lighter browns over the past couple of years.

[@chiarac358]

Tracie, have you tried Diamine Cult Pens Deep Dark Brown, Diamine Macassar and Espresso, Herbin Cacao du Brésil, R&K Sepia or Sailor Shikiori Doyou? The latter is very saturated and very dark with my Japanese H-M nib on Tomoe River, Clairefontaine Triomphe and Rodhia DotPad black cover. Cacao du Brésil is a bit unsaturated but a greyish dark brown.

[@sistergoldenhair0727]

Chiara C I have all these papers but none of these browns! I’ll have to check them out. I’m kinda disappointed with Sailor inks though...all the ones I’ve tried except for Yamidori have been too dry and too light:( thanks for these great suggestions!!

[@davidalangordon]

Hi Dave, Very nice comparisons. If you can find Noodlers 41Brown it is fantastic. It has a but of green shimmer to it. What is the permanence it those inks? Drop a bit of water in the center and see what happens. Also how archival are the inks? (PS. I'm not affiliated with Noodeler's. Just a fan of permanent inks.)

[@PenultimateDave]

Thanks Dave, we can get some Noodlers ink here but not the full range in the UK, but I'll keep my eye open for that.

[@MrAndrew1953]

Ancient copper more brown than Hal's Old Brown (?) or black brown - chocolate brown. Really think some of these manufacturers take liberties. Use Ancient Copper myself.

[@sistergoldenhair0727]

I find smoky quartz to be too dry to be enjoyable. These are great browns! Gold antiqua is one of my favorites. Have you tried the African Gold?

[@craigangell7129]

Great review

[@davecharvella4854]

Love these comparisons, Dave! What paper are you using?

[@PenultimateDave]

Thanks Dave, Tomoe River 52gsm is the paper I'm using.

[@ilananl1004]

Are SBEbrown and Diamine Terracotta similar?

[@PenultimateDave]

Diamine Ochre is more closer to SBRE Brown.

[@oscarcalva2189]

Brown inks can indeed sheen quite a lot. Try Vinta Pamana

[@JoelTurrell]

Dave, You always are able to draw more from SBREBrown than I can. Some of this can be attributed to your preference for nibs wider than mine. However, I wonder if you don't also have a better writing technique than I. My results with that ink are insipid, yours have some flair.

[@PenultimateDave]

Thanks Joel, I'm sure you have just as nice a writing style! I think it's most likely due to the wider nib but also how wet the nib writes. I do get quite a variance though between nibs, I've had SBRE Brown inked up in a few pens in the same Currently Inked and it can go from a very dark to a very light brown. I've had similar instances with J. Herbin Lie de Thé too.

[@Richard_Barnes]

Penultimate Dave, I struggle to use any Akkerman, my pens just seem so dry for it. They end up scratchy. I’m waiting on a broad nib TWSBI and I hope it works in that as I’ve got 3 bottles! lol

[@mauriciolacruz]

To me: the darker, the nicer (Diamine Chocolate Brown + Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz). 👍🏻

[@KingOfHearts901]

Could you recommend a good place to buy Akkerman ink in the UK?

[@PenultimateDave]

Unfortunately there isn't anywhere in the UK selling Akkerman inks. Closest place would be from Akkerman in the Netherlands or from a number of retailers in the US but then shipping costs and import tax/duty will be higher.

[@glenvelez943]

What pen are you using?

[@PenultimateDave]

The pen is the William Shakour Titan, it’s a pen made by a UK Pen Collector William Shakour. I have a review of two of his Titan's at kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ2to3tsjpl4mNk and another one at kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqjIfqWGfNmUa9U He doesn’t have a website, he’s on Instagram as instagram.com/williamshakour and can make pens to order.

[@humanfirst11]

What is the pen that you are using?

[@PenultimateDave]

The pen is a 3D printed pen called the Titan by instagram.com/WilliamShakour, he has a bit of a backlog but the pen is a great pen, piston filling with a #8 Bock Titanium nib, I have 3x and now a dip pen where I can swap the nibs out into and like it a lot.

[@humanfirst11]

@@PenultimateDave it's a very beautiful pen! I was wondering if someone had already asked the question because I couldn't recognize the pen at all! Very fitting for the gorgeous inks.

[@humanfirst11]

@@PenultimateDave so it's a 3d printed pen! What an art!

[@UrbanHafner]

Are 50%of your inks Akkerman inks? 🤣

[@PenultimateDave]

Actually Akkerman only equate to 9% of my collection, the most I have is Diamine at 28%, although my top 2 ink brands are Diamine with 82 bottles and Akkerman at 26 bottles.

[@UrbanHafner]

@@PenultimateDave love the geekery of that! Now I'll have to look at my top brands. I suspect that Diamine will come first as well.

[@ayklization]

Another meticulous presentation

[@sushanart]

Diamine Ochre looks very nice. I'd like to try J Herbin's Shogun and Caroube de Chypre. 😇🩵🙏🙌

[@PenultimateDave]

I haven't tried either of those inks yet, will need to give them a try soon.