People Are Leaving Denver in 2024

People are moving out of Denver at a higher rate than we're used to seeing-at least according to one metric. We dive into the numbers to see how many people are really leaving Denver and how it compares to other cities, plus which parts of Colorado people are moving TO.
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[@DenverLivingwithSam]

Here’s the Pods article: www.pods.com/blog/moving-trends

[@Thehappyet]

Living in denver I can tell you why people are moving out. Skyrocketing prices and crime and the shrinking police force is now almost nonexistent.

[@ianhunt1327]

affordability is forsure a big reason, Denver feels so unaffordable and I’m making an alright salary

[@spearfish]

I left last year because of the crime. Feels so much better to live somewhere where police actually do their job.

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@spearfish where did you move?

[@spearfish]

@@mrbuckmeister St. Petersburg, FL

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@spearfish I like St. Petersburg, FL and the Tampa area. We have some good friends out there. I hope it goes well for you.

[@vf4635]

@@mrbuckmeister Is it more affordable there than in Boulder?

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@vf4635 I don't know for sure but suspect you can find a less expensive house in the Tampa area. The key question is how close do you want to be to the beach or the bay. My impression is Boulder prices are closer to South Florida prices around Miami, Jupiter and Palm Beach. If you don't like the traffic in Denver, you will HATE South Florida traffic. I know you could find less expensive houses in other parts of the Denver metro. For example, Longmont, Littleton... I am sure Sam could list many more. Outside the Denver metro Loveland, Fort Collins and Colorado Springs have less expensive homes.

[@Squirter_ttv]

Moved out of Denver last month and couldnt be happier. Living way cheaper and making more money. Denver has turned into a complete overpriced dumpster fire of a city.

[@thekingofbohemia1]

I lived in Denver for 46 years and retired 200 miles away, somewhere where PODS doesn't go. So, thankfully, my town is not on the list. I feel like I'm in the bleachers looking down at the gladiator hellholes of the big cities.

[@jester1cp]

PODS? 🤔

[@ericwillis3015]

Thank God

[@doober4309]

Bro we’re pretty much becoming California at this point

[@olyuppi7331]

GOOD

[@mrbuckmeister]

Good stuff. I am all about that data! 😁 Ashville is nice. Boulder of the South is not a bad analogy. Although the difference between it and the surrounding area is much starker. South Carolina income tax is 6.5. NC is closer to Colorado. I'd consider NC but steer clear of SC. We moved from essentially Jacksonville to here and we're happy. Jacksonville is cheaper. If you love the beach, golf, being on the water, fishing, and being really hot in the summer with zero chance of snow, Jacksonville is for you. Lots of people from NY. Some are our good friends. You are right about the Gulf Coast, especially Tampa. Go there before Jacksonville. If you are a conservative Evangelical, you'll be right at home in Jacksonville. Especially in the suburbs. Sounds like we are on the same page about Orlando. Ocala is small, lots of horse breading, just south of Gainesville, home of the University of Florida. There are some nice springs in the area but you are at least a couple hours from a beach with zero ocean breeze. It is the part of Florida with the best chance of seeing snow flurries. The data scientist in me would factor in that PODs customers are a subset of all people who move. I suspect cost conscious movers are over represented. The data set is valuable but doesn't tell the whole story. That said, the moving to save money narrative does fit. With the economy slowing, people have less money to cover the costs.

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

Appreciate you as always, my man. 🤜🤛

[@jimsummers487]

People are just making room for more Texans

[@markaumann5336]

Denver has gotten way too expensive-after covid prices are out of control for housing!!!

[@matthewmurray7428]

I do worry that this is really showing that we are growing but we are growing by pushing out the people who can't afford to live here.

[@Yosk77]

See yall in sterling 🤠

[@DannyH77]

what about crime and drugged up people in those places

[@DannyH77]

democrats ruin everything

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

I…mentioned crime at least 3 times?

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@DannyH77 there's no crime or drugged up people where people are moving? Google Appalachia and opioids.

[@mrbuckmeister]

He mentioned people are moving to Appalachia. There are many lovely people and places there but there's also an opioid epidemic. You're not going to escape drug addiction by moving to Appalachia.

[@ababababeebababa]

How about the recent doubling of property tax valuations and homeowner insusrance increases ... the combination resulted in almost $800 more PER MONTH ... and the valuation increase was more than the previous 18 years combined, so yes its driving people out.

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

Oh for sure. Both of those things go into the affordability issue. Despite recent jumps, our property taxes are still on the lower end, though, and I'm not sure the insurance increases are just a local phenomenon.

[@ababababeebababa]

@@DenverLivingwithSam yes, your right, tax RATE (percentage) wise ... we are not that bad. However, how they assess the VALUE to apply that rate again ... is driven by ZIllow now in douglas county, so if the service says its worth xxx, then that the value whether you can sell for that or not. For me, that VALUATION part doubled. Even in CALI, you have to sell for xxx before they can tax you on that. This is the real estate version of unrealized capital gains and it is horrible for many of us. When they repealed gallahger, they opened up this pandoras box.

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

@ababababeebababa Huh. So in Cali, theoretically, someone’s grandparent who bought their home for $50k in 1967, when that home is now worth $2m, would still be paying taxes on that $50k valuation? That seems insane. It also seems insane that Douglas County would base assessments on Zillow (????). I’d gladly offer to do a market analysis to figure out a more accurate value for your home and fight on inflated valuation (I did this a lot last year when this all started), but I believe that window has closed.

[@brandonc181]

but i guess things are better now than they were 4 years ago...? lol

[@Wowzival]

maybe the texans are moving back to texas

[@philasoma]

Looks like their moving out to the nicer suburbs and ruining them now with the same kind of policies that have made Denver undesirable. I'm actually watching it happen now in real time to one of them.

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

Interesting. Which one?

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@philasoma the curious thing is the people with money are happy to pay millions for the "undesirable" places while the "desirable" places are much cheaper. Is capitalism broken?

[@Lena-zs4kt]

1980 - 1990 recession, week dollar

[@jadedlynx]

Maybe the "I got mine and now I want everyone else to leave or stay home crowd" should move to a "less crowded" place?

[@laurenv1223]

One of the moving out after 20 years. Safety should be first on your list, dude. The "I only want me" bull is so disingenuous. Be real with people about why people are leaving. Pods doesn't get hit by drunk drivers, have cars stolen, harassed by meth heads, or catch drive bys on their house cams. Ask the people.

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

I think stating that people are only leaving because of crime (which I mentioned more than once in the video) would be equally as inaccurate as saying people are only leaving to save money. It’s a bummer that that’s your experience, but it isn’t everyone’s. Good luck with your next venture, wherever that leads.

[@laurenv1223]

@@DenverLivingwithSam who said "only?" don't be obtuse. You covered crime for like 30 seconds. All I'm saying dude, if you're gonna do a whole video about people leaving Denver, don't sugar coat the actual biggest reasons WHY, or say "people want it to just be them and that's selfish", to protect your business selling million dollar ballpark lofts and lakefront homes in Denver (-your insta)

[@nicosaucedo4510]

@@laurenv1223damn you really are hurt lmaoooo. grow up cup cake

[@DenverLivingwithSam]

Of all the criticisms that get levied in the comments, my favorite by far is the allegation that I lie on this channel to “protect” my real estate business, as if what I say on this little KZbin page can sway the net migration to/from Denver. I’m proud of my stuff but it isn’t THAT good. 😄

[@mrbuckmeister]

Lauren, where are you moving to where no one ever drives drunk and cars never get stolen? I have lived for decades in the areas where people are moving to. I personally called the police and helped them stop a drunk driver on 1-26 in South Carolina. My car was stolen out of our driveway in metro Atlanta. In fact, I have first hand experience with much worse things in those areas. As a member of "the people" that's my personal experience. If you would like to share things that have actually happened to you, I'd love to learn about your experience. If you think people are moving to Appalachia to get away from drug addicts, you clearly don't know much about the opioid crisis. If you think people are going to Florida to get away from drugs, you clearly don't know much about cocaine smuggling.

[@FromDesertTown]

Housing costs are out of control. That's why people aren't moving back in. Housing in this country is absolutely ridiculous.

[@the_derpler]

I live in SF and I considered buying a house in Denver then saw that a home is super duper expensive, then do a google street view and the 800k home I saw is surrounded by dilapidated land, falling apart homes and cars on cinder blocks. Does not make sense, I don't know who is buying these million dollar homes in this area. Does the economy even support it?

[@jadedlynx]

you can get a decent place for 800k. I don't know what you were looking at or where, but the picture painted that 800k only gets you a house in a ghetto in is inaccurate.

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@the_derpler we just bought a brand new home in a brand new planned neighborhood with mountain views and peace and quiet for $743,000. If you're serious about finding a good home in Denver talk to Sam. He will show you tons of good options.

[@mrbuckmeister]

We bought a brand new home in a brand new planned community for $743,000 earlier this year. We have mountain views peace and quiet and walking trails. We could have gotten homes in the same neighborhood for under $700,000. If you seriously want to move from San Francisco, reach out to Sam and his team. He can help you choose from the many lovely homes available for under $800,000. If you're willing to go to $850,000 you can get a brand new five bedroom with an in-law suite and an unfinished walkout basement that backs up to open space.

[@joie8465]

Denver is the most depressing places on earth

[@garrettbewsy144]

i live in Los Angeles. All the lost income from taxes, the city is actually going back 5 years and requesting audits for city taxes. it’s getting desperate here to support all the homeless losers.

[@petermermilliod1545]

the johnson city to Denver and back is a while thing around here. I know at least 7 folks

[@annunnaki_bukkakke]

those venezuelan gangs don't look too enticing either

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@annunnaki_bukkakke yes that one doorbell camera video of three or four possibly Venezuelan guys keeps me up at night!

[@Duecegod101]

u talk like mogul mail

[@brandonc181]

Hodor... or hold the door... i bought a nice house in Texas. Man, I loved Colorado. Lived there 30 years, but moving out was the best decision I've ever made. And some land abroad but that's a different story. Good luck with all that.

[@annunnaki_bukkakke]

lets be real and admit that the places with the heaviest covid restrictions/lockdowns saw people fleeing in the highest numbers. why even beat around the bush about it? the covid fascism was wildly unpopular and it had alot of people re-evaluating what matters most in life.

[@mrbuckmeister]

@@annunnaki_bukkakke if COVID lockdowns hadn't ended years ago, your comment might be relevant. By the way, we moved here from Florida, the land of free range COVID.