People don’t believe in fighting going backwards?

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[@jakoflynn2560]

Fighting on back foot is so crucial it’s saved my ass at least 6 times

[@shanebodnar9861]

You don’t have to do it if you don’t back up in the first place

[@cjhall4406]

​@@shanebodnar9861 so dumb bud

[@ozzyguyett7893]

Let's see how you react when you get rocked and see 16 of the same thing ​@@shanebodnar9861

[@Cavouku]

Absolutely agree. I've always believed in action economy: either choose moves that have more options, or make your moves have more options. Going backwards should be more than just getting away from your opponent, it should be a setup, a bait, a feint, an angle--not because it's always going to pay off, but because you're ready for the chance that it can.

[@iamshredder3587]

That's some clever thinking buddy. Good logic and reasoning. Nicely written and spelled out too. I'm impressed, and I'm rarely impressed by yt comments in general let alone on matters of fighting. (They're often some of the worst haha) "Action economy" huh? I'll have to remember that one. Quite a fitting term really. You made that up yourself or were taught about it? I've learnt of economy of motion and such but don't think I've heard that term before. I think the logic behind it is something I've learnt and applied though... in fight training as well as in business, and probably other things.... just naturally and generally though over the years as I got better and gained more skillsets and experience. Never really specific and systematically like that though. For eg a beginner in grappling who's just learnt a double leg or a rnc will dive in and try relentless to get them and when it doesn't go their way they get all lost and confused and just keep trying or give up or whatever. Whereas a experienced grappler has a whole host of options available from there and can even like feint or fail the shot on purpose to set the opponent up for another technique. Anyway that's how I'm understanding it basically. Something to think about. Thanks bro. Well done. :))

[@Cavouku]

@iamshredder3587 I actually got the term from turn-based games, especially card games like Magic: the Gathering. When building the deck, or playing the cards, you have to be thoughtful about how much "value" you're getting out of each card, what kind of reactions your opponents will have to you playing it, and what you can get from the interaction even if it doesn't go exactly as planned. I feel a couple examples can help show what I mean. The Kimura is a great technique, not just because it can finish a fight, but because if it doesn't work you can often use it to get your opponent into a new position. Triangles can chain into an armbar or a sweep given the right circumstances. Jabs might have the best action economy in the fight game, because not only does it take little energy to throw a standard jab, but it can measure the distance to your opponent, do some damage in the right case, and it often blocks your opponent's vision, letting you follow up with a combo or change position. A drop-step overhand is a great technique (Josh Emmet knocked out Bryce Mitchell with one in brutal fashion at UFC 296), because if it misses, you've potentially got a collar tie, and you've stepped into a great angle to use it for a leg sweep takedown like Osoto-gari. Calf kicks are another great example. Wrist control and/or underhooks are almost always worth looking for in a grapple. Sprawl control can go to a D'Arce, anaconda, necktie, guillotine, and more. The list goes on and on

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

And keeping your Opponent guessing...makes him less aggressive and has to react rather than acting

[@michaelmoran8780]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@Zio_xm]

Sugar Ray Robinson, one of the best, fought a lot on his backfoot while pivoting and creating angles.

[@nkosinathinathi304]

The perfect punch.

[@combatsportlover6919]

Many historians would say THE best.

[@maverickman6486]

Being able to fight in any direction is so important. Use every option.

[@ZFosterZ]

I’m a come forward fighter, always. I was in a boxing match with a guy, and we fought like we were in a phone booth. First two rounds go like that, Third round, I have a moment when I realise- step back and and throw! I was against it, as not my natural way but I wanted to beat this guy. We had settled into a rhythm with the first two rounds. I step back and hammered him with a back hand into a lead hook. He looked stunned, tried to move forward, I fired off three straights. Suddenly he didn’t know what to do. I found room and broke the rhythm enough to offset his mindset, then I went back in phonebox fighting, feeling strong and knowing he was struggling after I had connected those clean shots from that brief stint on the back foot.

[@Sulamanjansulttaani]

Wow and you call yourself a man?

[@th8132]

I'm with you. I love fighting backwards in sparring. Whenever people say don't do something, I tend to do it. ☺

[@CombatSportsNerd]

What really confuses me about trying to insinuate that learning how to fight moving backwards isn’t important is the inherent arrogant implications of it. So do they just assume that there’s never going to be a match when they’re clearly forced to retreat in the middle of an exchange? What if you’re chasing down Your opponent is the absolute worst thing you can do due to a stylistic disadvantage and baiting them while moving in reverse is a safer alternative? Do they just ignore that option entirely? What if their fighter is naturally gifted at that style? Are they going to just waste that potential?

[@MathisR412]

Yea I ain’t even know ppl were so against fighting while moving backwards lol

[@joshreynolds729]

These are the guys you see getting railed in a corner gaining no respect because they can’t get momentum to go forward to throw a strike thanks to their excellent coaches advice 🤣. I agree the ignorance of these people. Obviously not experienced in any combat sport.

[@int0the3p1t32]

You can tell a lot about a school or system of fighting by asking what it is the teachers assume about fighting

[@synysterallen]

been watching your stuff on and off since you first started, man you have to gotten to another level since you started awesome to see.. great work!

[@eBoyGarb]

Man I been following you for a year now and holy I learned a lot from you through your vids thank you

[@maximusrmlmjm]

Finally! Someone else who gets me! Not sure how/when the idea that you shouldn’t be able to hit/kick when moving back started. Granted, I don’t want to “fight on my heels” but we’re not talking about that.

[@drebenjamin9028]

Been watching you for years man, good stuff. I always appreciate the information! 🤙🏾

[@jmriviere]

Just adding my strong support for and interest in these videos! Thanks for the insights, would love to see more!

[@a.j.triplett4624]

All your videos are great. If you wanna keep running videos like this, I'll keep watching videos like this. Appreciate ya!

[@josemucarselsacoto5122]

That's the first thing I teach to newcomers. Keep up the good work! 🎉

[@ardavardar4405]

It’s been ten years since I started watching your videos. I used lots of your staff when I teach. Just ignore that Insta pro’s. They only know how to add music to their shadow boxing videos 😂😂. U are doing an amazing work. For the guys who said that kind of bullshit, he knows what he talking about 😂😂😂😂.

[@angelosymeonidis1677]

Yo shane I’m glad to see you’re still making videos man, best of luck with your gym and your athletes!

[@diarrhea6344]

Thanks for your videos man! I joined a kickboxing gym recently becouse of you.

[@M1G179]

He is a very detailed! Another great video coach!

[@drr398]

You've come so far bro

[@zapatroken]

To this day you're the person I trust the most when it comes to fighting

[@fighttips]

That's an honor and a privilege that I promise to treat with the utmost respect 🙏

[@FalseProphetFallacy]

It’s ego. I NEVER wanted to go backwards in sparring because I always thought doing so was cowardly. I had subconscious issues with self-esteem from uh, “past experiences” where I would avoid anything that made me seem like I was scared or cowardly. It all boils down to “Real men don’t go backwards, fighting going backwards is losing” etc etc.

[@maximusg7509]

I think the teenagers tend to think like that, now you just have become an adult.

[@burningbelow4424]

At the bang Muay thai or now fight kraft gym I was taught using the Duane Ludwig system we were taught how to fight from all angles! Keep preaching!!

[@armandohernandez3106]

Know how to fight backwards is just as important as fighting going forward. One has to know how to adjust to the situation at hand. ✝️🇺🇸🥊 Coach Mando from the Alamo City.

[@shanebodnar9861]

It’s better to stay planted in place when someone comes at you so you don’t lose power

[@armandohernandez3106]

@@shanebodnar9861 In a pro match or amateur match?

[@shanebodnar9861]

@@armandohernandez3106 both lol. You have less power and your opponent can still defend your shots while moving into range, you’re at a disadvantage.

[@armandohernandez3106]

So no sidestep, rowing out with a counter punch or a straight cross to the midsection against someone who is planted will work?

[@shanebodnar9861]

@@armandohernandez3106. Footwork/range is only one of the 3 forms of defense, while your planted you still have your hands and head movement to protect your self aganist the cross to the body or those counters. Speaking of the cross to the body, you can easily greet your opponent with an uppercut to the jaw if they lead with it to close the distance, as you have to lower your level to efficiently throw that punch

[@espin7795]

Who are these people disagreeing with you??? I was a fighter for years and I've been watching your content for a while now. I agree with practically all your fight tips, advice, and strategies. Keep it up bro

[@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel]

Awesome video, I've missed seeing FightTips on KZbin. I see you're very active on Instagram and I'm guessing you're probably doing a lot of TikTok content that you can also share on Instagram. But I prefer the longer form content and haven't gotten on TikTok, as I don't wanna get addicted to the platform :p Plus I'd feel obligated to create Zen-Dragon content there, which would prob be smart, but I don't want more on my plate :p Anyways, very cool breakdown of what you teach used in a fight. :) You do a lot of combat sports coaching, but a self defense focused video for old time's sake, or something like a new version of the Underdogs collaboration mini series would be awesome to see, or some vlogs :p Anyways, always appreciate your content Shane :)

[@iamshredder3587]

I kinda miss those videos too bro. :)) Though he does good stuff now too, definitely getting more leveled up as himself as well. Just aiming more at the young up and coming professional sportsfighters crowd I guess I have no desire towards myself but still get some handy tips and stuff fairly often. From either him or some of the grappling coaches he gets in.

[@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel]

Yeah, it seems Shane remains very much a striker, though he has trained some grappling and looked to have gotten some ground game. I'm more. a striker myself, but getting some submission skills and defense on the ground opened another door for me, and is a big part of my martial arts toolset, I kinda have difficulty imaginining someone learning several BJJ submissions and defense and sweeps, without developing a passion for it.... the hard part is getting used to it in the beginning I think.@@iamshredder3587

[@mmaboxing5378]

Stipe Miocic won his first title moving backwards against Fabricio Werdum

[@7ItalianStallion]

Love fighting while moving back. Did it as a kid and worked a lot

[@heartofsteel8808]

Please more of these

[@Charismaniac]

Stipe Miocic knocked out Fabricio Werdum that way. Floyd Mayweather would slowly step away from his opponent, establish a rhythm for them to follow, then throw a pull-counter and knock them down or hurt them enough to land another safe combo which would eventually lead to a stoppage or a clean win on the scorecards. Its possible to hit while retreating and even knock people out. Cory Sandhagen would explode with a defensive knee while pulling back. Stephen Thompson wrecked Vicente Luque with side kicks and counters while retreating. Yair Rodriguez would throw roundhouse kicks and elbows while moving back too, having taken a page from Jon Jones's book. Great fighters know how to do it. Thanks for the video!

[@willmorrill6055]

As usual Shane is spitting fire!

[@yewknight]

I have always trained to punch and kick off the back foot, one of the best ways to slow down an aggressive fighter is show them you are still dangerous when they press. Tkd style back kicks are fantastic to stop pressure.

[@michaelbevan1081]

Definitely make more of these

[@Coltbreath]

Beautiful!

[@eddied.8361]

More breakdown very good strategy 🧐

[@General_Jist]

Awesome video, in boxing I love using the soviet style like dimitry Bicol, they fight going backwards all the time, it's an integral part of the system

[@Astyl_]

Taekwondo places a strong emphasis on learning how to fight while going backwards. Super important.

[@BMO_Creative]

Two words: Muhammad Ali... drop the mic, walk away. LOL

[@chriswilletts3621]

Exactly 💯

[@pumaloc3584]

Jonathan Haggerty is really good at fighting backwards too. It’s really good to set up big round house kick and big punches.

[@user-yq7xf2ss6e]

You can set up great counters going back i agree 💯

[@davidhernandez9985]

Shane, do you have or is it the gym that you work out.? Happy New Year🥋,👍🏻!

[@pazhany5443]

One of the ways I lend my lead leg head kick against pressure fighters is by doing a simple jab cross or jab and right long hook then leaving my gloves in their face with a lighter jab or something while stepping into a southpaw then while i retract my hand i usually lend the lead leg hugh kick. All of that is done while stepping backwards. That kind of fighting is thanks to my background in savate cause it made my lead high kick strong enough to get a high kick by also you,back when i was watching your videos in 2015 and you were talking about stepping backwards when shadow boxing or something Now i hope its you saying that and not me

[@cliffnielsen8567]

Thanks! Hey Shane, how are you doing? You’re correct. This was why we’re taught reverse footwork. It also gives us the opportunity to bait them.

[@fighttips]

That's right, Cliff! Plenty of examples of this working with great success, from Ali, to McGregor, to Anderson Silva.

[@cliffnielsen8567]

Hey, Shane, I forgot? (Happy New Year, Sir.

[@fighttips]

Happy New Year to you and yours! Going well so far?

[@cliffnielsen8567]

@@fighttips Correct Shane. Defense offense simultaneously. I watched you and you know quite a bit of different styles. Taekwondo, Boxing, Muay Thia,, Balance, Teeps to straight kick. Flowing Water never grow stagnant.

[@Mike-wq7mw]

Shane great video. If people want to know how to fight goging backwards in boxing, you got Amateur olympic Guillermo Rigondeaux.

[@calneon6549]

Shane you once said you walk around at 145lbs. In MMA do you think you could make flyweight or is bantamweight more natural for you given that you have low body fat? In boxing would 130lbs be your best weight class? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts!

[@YoureMom-pp5yr]

I’m having trouble extending my leg when I do a round house kick sometimes I extend too early and I just can’t find the right positioning and timing.

[@cjhall4406]

Great vid

[@HeavyBagDiaries]

This training can be done effectively also while hitting the heavy bag, I think, I tried adding punches/elbows while moving away from the bag swinging and it seems to work fine....or maybe I'm just doing everything the wrong way 😂

[@fighttips]

Absolutely! I often practice "missing intentionally" when I hit the heavybag (just as I could in a fight), to keep my balance honest.

[@HeavyBagDiaries]

@@fighttips thank you very much for the answer, and also thanks for your channel 👍

[@wl7291]

There's been so many champions in combat sports that can and have fought moving backwards and on the back foot.

[@angelg9439]

Hey Shane! Ive been watching your videos for a while now & i have a question. I have trained boxing before & ima get back into to it but i also have time to learn muay thai at a gym. Is there a way to mix those 2? Where u can fight like a muay thai fighter but with the punches as a boxer? Kinda like a "hybrid stance/style"? & would it be effective? Thanks

[@kacklerot]

idk why people would think stepping backwards won't work. This stops aggressive opponents like me. It would be aggravating. I like moving in but this tactic Shane explains would discourage me from shooting in. It would take me out of my comfort zone.

[@lambda494]

I almost can't believe someone would disagree with this point. Literally just watched a Roy Jones Jr. video explaining how that's what he often did, take a step back while punching in a really subtle way. it's their loss (literally).

[@shanebodnar9861]

It’s because most people obsessed with fighting on the retreat are spending too much time retreating. You’re better off staying planted so you have more power, then defend and counter your opponent with in range. You also can’t move. Adesanya spends most of his time fighting on the back foot, and that got him dropped by Sean Strickland who just walked him down.

[@davybaert8341]

JONATHAN HAGGERTY Also does the same with the front kick and teep 👌👌

[@summeruchiha1]

Very effective ive done it in a street fight

[@Nate.V]

Where you get them sweat pants from homie?

[@albertrynkowski3599]

Shane bro you fight with Mamed Kalidow. Please!

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Hey, Shane, where did you get those boots

[@ChristianHealthandWellness]

do you have any tips for slow fighters? ones that punch slow?

[@pollen1253]

Shane I’ve been having a problem. The knuckles on my toes keep swelling after training and I’m unsure what to do, it’s only on my right foot and it’s the padwork that’s doing it. Any tips

[@ThomasistheTwin]

Ali’s bred and butter. McGregor’s most famous knockout came this way as well.

[@masternoble]

Crawford beat the hell out Molina while walking backwards the entire fight. It was beautiful.

[@EDOGZ818]

The only thing I saw bad was crossing the feet while backing up. It worked in this case & might work in every case but that is a weak point. Definitely important to know how to fight off the back foot / going back, otherwise, you're useless if opponent can get you backing up.

[@mylink.orb17]

​@andrewtaylor7269 a truck moving forward or backward

[@Imhim247]

Fight backwards is good when do it right

[@Imhim247]

@andrewtaylor7269 Wow! That's crazy

[@armandohernandez3106]

Your totally right. Knowing how to fight backwards by practicing how to sidestep or planting your backwards foot and countering with a cross will cause some damage. 🥊 Coach Mando.

[@Imhim247]

@armandohernandez3106 Exactly. Practice will make it better. Thanks, Coach Mando!🥊

[@13LesTadO13]

If you don't think you can fight on the back step go watch Chuck liddel knock everyone out with his backwards overhand right 🤣 He was the best at it I've ever seen.

[@openheartedwarrior2971]

Is not that people dont believe in fighting while going backwards. The thing is that it's really hard for just anybody to pull that off.

[@vknives]

Someone that can run away from you while hurting you at the same time is a major threat. Those haters are tards.

[@AlanAlanAlanDave]

I commented on the old beginner vid. Wondered if you could reply?

[@fighttips]

🫡

[@ChiDante]

for the tip

[@TheStarBazaar]

Didn't Sean O'Malley became champ with that right hand on the back foot 🤔

[@CarlySB]

I think that's impossible. Some of them may not think it's necessarily a very good idea, but not believing in something isn't the same as not thinking it's a very good idea. The difference is important and if our standards of literacy have become so poor that we can't make such a distinction, we are doing very badly indeed. Literacy is never our enemy.

[@kevinjohnson5589]

How do a mma fighter meditate

[@bloodoftheunicorns2621]

Cuban boxers, fight backwards all the time, and in every other direction for that matter!

[@chengfu7063]

The point of battle is to always read the enemy the point is to take advantage of the obvious just like when one sight is revealed and always in a standing position and being left wide open the man is the art always adapt to always of fighting always be ready at all times not fearing death cause you're not afraid to live life counter Dodge and put the enemy down for good without hesitation Mercy or restraint and always fight rotated and never be left wide open competitions matter street fighting there are no rules and weapons are the same as blocks punches kicks and strikes and fighting fun and cool and I said fighting not carnival cage acts parading around like a joke for the amusement of buffoons that don't matter

[@powdermuaythai]

another banger

[@jamielondon6436]

That's how Ali knocked out Liston. Nuff said. :-)

[@smartgameing3532]

kool

[@i-primeproductions1517]

Might I point out that Floyd Mayweather went backwards, the entire fight with Oscar de LaHoya the ENTIRE fight all he did was go backwards, yet they gave him the decision.

[@fighttips]

Going backwards doesn't score against you. It's about ring control, ring generalship, and percentage of punches landed.

[@ZoonCrypticon]

The rhythm of the attack would be like Latin American dances swingin forth and back, e.g. Samba.

[@chriswilletts3621]

Muhammad Ali was the king of it. Legend

[@alberttrotter3938]

When you go forward your footwork is left then right. You’re then saying it’s left right going backwards. That squares you up and off balance. Shouldn’t it be left right going forward but then RIGHT LEFT going backwards?

[@bremnersghost948]

Look how many fights Chuck Liddell won by dropping a KO while stepping back.

[@stevenshar1233]

I guess fighters like Ali, Sean O Mally, etc has been wrong the entire time throwing punches while moving backwards

[@ryanoneill6481]

People who don’t believe in fighting while moving backwards are the kinda people who run into punches

[@ryanoneill6481]

@@andrewtaylor7269tf is a feefo. I fight as well moving backwards as I do moving forwards

[@jB-uw8fi]

Anderson Silva knocked out Forrest Griffin with a right while walking back. (Well, he was doing his Anderson Silva nonsense, but he was moving backwards when he did it).

[@CoASoFi]

Plenty of examples of professional boxers getting worked cause they aren’t good at punching while retreating. And vice versa. You see some great boxers catching aggressive boxers while moving backwards.

[@shanebodnar9861]

You can also see a lot of examples of fighters who try fighting on the back foot getting beat by aggresive opponents, like how Sean Strickland dropped Isreal Adesanya. Your opponent can defend your punches while moving forward, and it nullifys your power as opposed to staying planted, so it’s not smart to rely on. Ideally you should hold your ground in the pocket so you have more power and you don’t get cornered(also done to Isreal adesanya by Sean Strickland)

[@petrbrozek5452]

Isn't it a problem that when you going back this way you have your legs in one line for a moment?

[@wildexperiense]

the long hair and beanie make you look like you're a tenth planet enjoyer.

[@edstringer1138]

All boxers learn outside fight in boxing 101 . but Outside fighting did beat Mike Tyson

[@joshreynolds729]

Like counter punching isn’t important and the majority of those aren’t on the back foot because once again people advance when attacking imagine that. Can’t believe people talked crap. What you say is the truth that’s no bullshit. Fighting is a dance between your opponent to optimize power, evade strikes, and get your opponent off balance allowing you to move in undetected or to minimize personal damage while simultaneously inflicting as much damage on your opponent. This means being able to fight moving in all directions. This is one of the main reasons people get knocked out they get no respect when backed up because they won’t throw punches to signal danger to the opponent thereby giving him no reason to stop. Keep up the good knowledge, don’t listen to the 🤡 posse everybody thinks their expert world champion behind their screens.

[@shanebodnar9861]

If you find yourself needing to know how to fight on the retreat than odds are you’re spending too much time on the retreat. Instead you learn how to stay and fight in the pocket

[@fighttips]

Fair point, but I don't think it's as simple as "if you need to know". Each person/style/situation is unique.

[@shanebodnar9861]

@@fighttips my take is that because it nullifies your power and your opponent can still defend your strikes while moving forward, fighting on the back foot should only be something you do as a last resort.

[@mmartinisgreat]

:/ it's a fundamental.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I’m Mexican. I’m genetically incapable of stepping backwards

[@opietaylor5778]

What’s a pull counter? Fighting backwards… Conor became fw champion fighting backwards wonderboy went undefeated in kickboxing fighting backwards.. duh it’s better to go forward but you should def know how to fight backwards. Common sense

[@uberdonkey9721]

Yuh surely every fighter learns to do strikes moving backward. Otherwise you get pummeled.

[@braxwhitney]

If you disagree to knowing how to fight backwards, you don’t understand human combat at all.

[@Szeiker]

Finally you have long hair again. Just like a real man. 💪🏻

[@mattstew6078]

Muhammad ali ko'd/kd'd sonny liston, George foreman, Cleveland Williams and many other opponents while back peddling...so no it doesn't work

[@Milothetank215]

Dame Shane it angel hmu I dm u but nothing.

[@WhatIf_7860]

First🎉

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

No little girlie as you can see you re not first...Just a little bay seeking attention cause his life sucks and many playing this stupid game don't watch the video in their haste to clog comments

[@Thesavagesouls]

Dude your content has been going backwards lately.

[@fighttips]

Sure, I'll respond to your comment 😉 How's the information, though?

[@mo4presidentt]

bro most black fighters fight going backwards so what pro told you that you was gone get people hurt ?😂