People HATE The New Mazda Miata?

[@Dark0crY]

The people that don't like the Miata won't ever buy one, because they don't get why the Miata is like that.

[@christopherlowery855]

Truth

[@muhammedrazan4439]

true

[@mondragonmsaul308]

Low power and high agility yea but then you got things like the gr 86 or brz for about $400 difference at msrp and and about equal the price at 30k each used same year and all the one thing I see the only thing I see the Miata has over a used boxter cayman or a newly used 86 or brz would be it’s convertible. now don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I don’t like the Miata I’m just saying it’s illogical to me when you have better options specially when you’re thinking of buying a new Mx-5 when you have older more iconic 98 and older Mx-5 for 15k or less especially if you’re thinking of the modding scene. I’ve even found independent sellers that’s sell their Miata’s for 2-5k so a newer Mx-5 doesn’t make sense to me

[@Dark0crY]

@@mondragonmsaul308 People that buy a new Miata are people that want a cheap, reliable two-seater convertible little sporty rocket. And I bet you that the people that sell the old one, are in most cases getting a new one.

[@christopherlowery855]

@@mondragonmsaul308 @mondragonmsaul308 As someone who has an NA and NB Miata, I get your point. However, the trouble with the GR86/FRS is the boxer engine. The miata has never needed improved oil baffling due to oil starvation while cornering. Unless you're pushing over 400hp, it's not needed. The GR86, however, will have a void warranty if the engine dies due to oil starvation, caused by a track day. This is despite the marketing about it being a track-ready vehicle. For this reason, the miata is more desirable than a GR86. I don't know if I would even autocross in a stock FRS/BRZ/GR86. True, this can be fixed with aftermarket parts. However, add the multi-piece head assembly, the weak head gaskets, the requirement to remove the cams to pull both heads, the hassle of a quad-cam on a 4cyl engine, AND the requirement to disconnect the pistons from the rods just to pull the engine apart. The comparison is a model of simplicity to an over complicated mess. I pulled the head on my NB with the turbo manifold and intake still attached. The camshafts were left in place as well. All the extra complexity on the boxer engine just to create a better center of gravity. The two are not even close in terms of upkeep. I see NA and NB miatas everywhere I turn. It is insanely rare to see a 90s or early 2000s WRX on the road today. That MSRP difference is just a bribe. Cheers.

[@dsubversion]

Miata's are true roadster sport cars. It's amazing to have this type option available for over 33 years.

[@MontyJ804]

Real talk!

[@TylerLinner]

Roasters don't have side windows, lol. It's just a sporty convertible

[@Brandon-yq1tm]

Mazda saw british roadsters and said "what if they were more fun and reliable".

[@K_TEKK]

FAX

[@bzilla-d4i]

​@@TylerLinner what you're referring to is a Spider, which is basically a stripped down roadster or Barchetta in Italian.

[@jordanbrazinski8260]

If the Miata isn’t big enough for you, look elsewhere. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us by asking for a bigger car

[@djaydeved]

got enough of the damn cafe laws sayin that small trucks need to be high on fuel economy, and yes, thats why trucks have gotten bigger

[@2_diesel]

@@djaydevedthats why every car has gotten bigger, because they are all classified as light trucks

[@user-vk2cd9qw7i]

I just want more headroom. I physically cannot fit.

[@maartent9697]

But think about it SUV Miata

[@Kia_Soulless]

​@@user-vk2cd9qw7i just bolt the seats to the floor

[@alexlutz2221]

The only thing that needs to change is we need pop up headlights to make a comeback

[@zelrossa0xo522]

Yes

[@mojrimibnharb4584]

No.

[@vedgerna3366]

Like Fliphones coming back, so do pop-ups need to.

[@pccnamusic]

fr!!!

[@markmiller6751]

No. Weight and complication. Not needed.

[@brandons9138]

If the Miata changed it would cease to be the Miata. The formula makes the car.

[@dodoz44]

If that ever happens, I hope someone else picks up the torch and makes a similar car. Honda is what comes to mind first- they made the S2000, and they just recently stopped making the S660 Kei car. All they'd have to do is make a lovechild of those 2. S1200 perhaps, some 1.2L Turbo I3, ~180 HP, fun power curves, a little bit of turbo lag for entertainment, 2200 lbs total weight or so, manual as standard, and amazing driving dynamics that turn every corner into a little experience.

[@brandons9138]

@@dodoz44 How about cars like the 86 and the BRZ? They kind of hit that spot right now. They aren't convertibles, but I hate ragtops anyway.

[@Regexion]

@@brandons9138 One massive problem: Subaru engine

[@Fuffcat]

@@dodoz44 the s2k was never a competitor to the miata. It is heavy and quick. It was closer to a Z4 roadster in terms of performance and an MR2 in terms of handling.

[@Fuffcat]

@@brandons9138 86 is 400lbs heavier and has the wrong suspension configuration and a long wheelbase. They're not comparable in the least if people would look beyond horsepower.

[@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4]

The fact that the new only weighs 1kg more than the old one even though they had to add much more to it in order to meet safety requirements is truly amazing, hats off to everyone at Mazda that work on the car

[@gregynutbutter]

Well it's the only decent sports car they make now really they need to bring out a new rotary engine that's what we want haha though here in australia alot of the people have engined swapped them for more desirable engines haha I know a bloke that's got an LS1 swapped MX-5 he had to modify the seats for his giant balls hahaha

[@0326Vet]

​​@@gregynutbutter there's a company now selling LS3 swapped custom Miadas for $75,000 they call it a Mazda SS

[@gregynutbutter]

@@0326Vet $75,000 is fucking ridiculous are they made of gold?

[@0326Vet]

@@gregynutbutter a lot of custom work goes into one apparently, a lot of machine time

[@AverageAlien]

Safety requirements are ghey

[@ichigozanghetsu]

I 100% agree on that the miata/mx5 fomula should never change. Back in the 90's there were so many small sporty compact cars. All of them with exception to the miata, got fat, cramped with electronics and tech and lost what they were about. Lightweight and simple.

[@mrfixitusa6165]

That same cycle happened in the 70s to 80s also. 🤦

[@bzilla-d4i]

Wouldn't exactly call it lightweight, you want to go lightweight with no tech and serious track pedigree you buy a Lotus Elise.

[@PokeyCottons]

@@bzilla-d4i I think the Lotus lacks the affordability aspect 👍

[@bzilla-d4i]

@@PokeyCottons you can pick up a second hand one for round about the same price as the new MX-5, S1 might be cheaper.

[@NiiKey]

@@bzilla-d4i I can pick a second hand miata for half the price of the second hand elise. They don't even compete with each other.

[@MrAmadeus1998]

People need to stop bullying our little brother the Mazda Miata. He’s a little guy but he’s a good guy and people need to treat him better.

[@onedev-tx3ub]

That's literally what makes the Miata the Miata

[@cruiser6260]

And literally what literally makes it the miata

[@someguyyoucanttrust1959]

Thats literally the miata

[@TheSaltBoiCometh]

Fair but I’m over 6 foot and I literally can’t fit in a Miata I would love to own one but I can’t 😢

[@bramweinreder2346]

It's rigid because it's small. That's the secret sauce. Loads of fun to drive as a secondary car or when you're a bachelor.

[@gamestorm-tz2rw]

I think Miata needs both base variant and high performance variant with same size but more power

[@Gametherapist]

roughly a week or so ago I saw a video where they interviewed the engineer who designed the miata. In his own words: The miata was never meant to go fast or be a technological masterpiece. I designed this car so it would be fun to drive.

[@mitchc4474]

Like the old Porsche 911s, nothing extreme apart from the extremely raw feel of the drive

[@PotatooChipz]

this is why ur a therapist w use of a quote and giving the creator some hype

[@fritzthekidd]

Link the interview

[@yerpster]

It’s a donut media video on there second channel real mechanic stuff

[@superkid3054]

lol i was watching it now

[@frankaudi00]

They should make the miata even smaller just to piss those people off even more.

[@staLkerhu]

Some people don't even fit into the damn thing...

[@ryverjustryver9201]

I'm 1.90/6.3 and I legit couldn't fit into a new one I stepped in, but fuck me I guess.

[@dieseladdictryan9511]

@elemenopi55 dang, I thinking the same thing. Lol.

[@dieseladdictryan9511]

@ryverjustryver9201 I'm around 6.2 and fit in my first gen. Put in an NRG steering wheel with quick release for added leg room.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

​@@dieseladdictryan9511 Just make sure you've got the top down and you never mess you're back up ... Just like an MG Midget. ..and don't get too wide in the ass 😂 🇬🇧🧙🏼‍♂️

[@jimbrown5535]

Simple . Fun . Affordable . Great formula.

[@a_catfish5180]

Man what a cool little sports car sure wish it was a 3 row SUV

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

That kinda sounds like what these fictional “people” want……

[@MatthiasAI]

sounds like the average american to every car.. Just look at the Eclipse, its a SUV now too lmao

[@JK-g62]

​@@MatthiasAImustang yoo

[@RhinoAg]

lol

[@dieseladdictryan9511]

@JK-js2td that..... thing, is such a disappointment.

[@warrenscottholland127]

I had an MX5 for 2 years. It is the only car I have driven that made me smile everytime I drove.

[@Pr3Va1L]

It's all about the sph. Smiles per Hour.

[@HeyImDateMike]

*Miata life!!*

[@tufan.t.t3816]

Do you have experience with actual fast cars? (Just curious)

[@user-bw4jm1bv1i]

​@@tufan.t.t3816"Yeah, all my cars can go the maximum speed limit."

[@tufan.t.t3816]

@@user-bw4jm1bv1i lol

[@xKeihatsu]

*"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."- Sun Tzu*

[@meow_meow4966]

Sweet Johnson 🤨

[@Hammyfreak]

Sun Tzu never said that 😭

[@vanthursday]

@@Hammyfreak"Yes I did" - Sun Tzu

[@Hammyfreak]

@@vanthursday guess it’s before translation?

[@d3fault1420]

@@Hammyfreak "sun tzu said that" - solider tf2

[@jaynecobb6711]

I still have my red 1992 miata with factory hardtop bought new off the dealers lot. A couple of modest upgrades over the years ( brakes, better clutch and other small things) a engine rebuild with modest upgrades for a bit more power at 250K miles, still running strong. My wife, my son, both my daughters drove that car, now my granddaughter drives it, while I still maintain it to keep a eye on it.

[@JRotten]

The simplicity of it makes it more fun. Race on Sunday, drive to work monday. If you break it, you dont need 20k in tools to fix it.

[@billyray4716]

Yes you do, the 2.0 is a nightmare to work on

[@LuckyCatGaming]

And you can fix it yourself...when you're trus enthusiast lol

[@cecillio]

you are not winning any races in a miata, and if the engine is swapped that changes the whole simplicity factor

[@cactiiimusic]

@@cecillioAnd yet, it’s the most raced platform out there.

[@Trevor.Dionne]

@@cecillionot everybody is trying to race? I drift I couldn’t care less about racing. Takes literally no skill.

[@Bumper210]

Always treated Miatas not serious, more like a meme car, until I've driven my friends ND2. No car I've ever driven brought more smile to my face than this small bastard 😅

[@TC.._]

😅

[@MFullaStyle]

Small bastard😂 they're nimble as hell

[@assininecomment1630]

Huh...? Always treated it as a joke/meme/novelty car? Why? Where have you been all this time? For more than _3 decades,_ Blind Freddie has seen the Miata is a well sorted and smile inducing sports car.

[@Perry_dAccard]

They do have that tendency 😊

[@penapvp2230]

@@assininecomment1630 to new people looking in the way people talk about miata makes it seem like a joke even though it is a legendary car. its like trying to understand an in-joke from someone else's friend group

[@chisquare5701]

Agreed. No experiments. No compromise. No extra leg room, no additional storage, no backseats. No overly techy screens either. It's good enough, and that's gold.

[@geraldthompson4633]

Yup. Cool formula. Hell if I’m the last one standing I might wind up with one

[@adamr9215]

Yea, if you are short. I won’t fit in one with the top on, so it has no value at all to me until it is changed to fit. I fully believe that it should be scrapped and they need to produce an adult sized version.

[@perkypears]

@@adamr9215 how tall are you? im 6'1" and i wear big ass steel toe boots and daily a miata

[@adamr9215]

@@perkypears 6’4”, size 15 boots. I’ve also powerlifted most of my life, so I’m 270lbs at about 16% bodyfat.

[@perkypears]

@@adamr9215 yeah that's pretty damn tall lol. you might be able to squeeze in with some low side mounted seats at least

[@christian-zf3di]

The miata has been the same for years and I like that, but I think other people see the price and compare it to cars of a similar price like the BRZ, WRX, and Civic Si. But each of those cars are made for different people and so is the miata. And even if that variety isn't enough, a miata can be any car you want. I've seen drag, rally, street, and track miatas, so there's really no limit to what a miata can be

[@donnieallums4847]

I am 66 years old now . I own a 1993 automatic Miata because my legs are too long to shift. They hit the steering wheel . I just rescued a 1991 Miata last week that was sitting under an oak tree for five years. It’s a mess but is worth saving, no rust thankfully ! Will turn over but will not fire . For 500 dollars I can’t go wrong . Both are white automatics, all original, including wheels . I told my daughter I have a new set of twins.😂 thanks for sharing this video with us out here in south east Alabama USA ☮️❤️

[@TylerDurden-oy2hm]

Well done...thank you for rescuing a classic...enjoy the twins!

[@donnieallums4847]

@@TylerDurden-oy2hm thanks for the reply . I also have a 1974 MG midget that is fun to drive but not nearly as fun as the Miata . Hope all is well with your family and friends ☮️❤️

[@grannysgushinggash]

Learn to drive manual, at 66 it will give you a new lease on life lol. I'm 6'4 an am completely fine driving a manual Miata, whereas when I drove an auto it didn't feel sporty at all. with the sluggish transmission and the amount of power that's lost through it.

[@donnieallums4847]

@@grannysgushinggash thanks for the reply . I guess I’m just getting lazy in my old age !😂. When I want the shifting experience I swap with my son in law. He has a 2006 grey miata 5 speed . This car I have was a girly car back in the day . Hope this finds you and yours well ☮️❤️

[@niggas535]

how tall are you?

[@sdalt001]

People who don't like the Miata are missing the point. It's all about ONE thing: driving experience

[@n0vi]

and that is basically every car mazda makes. standing on that. Even the grocery getters are driver-focused.

[@povertybay3260]

If you don't like to drive the Miata then you're not a driving enthusiast

[@horrorkidd369]

@@povertybay3260 also so many people deny that its a sportscar because it doesnt make 400+ horsepower, most "car enthusiasts" nowadays have sadly no clue about cars anymore

[@PaperRouteFrank6.7]

@@povertybay3260just because I have more fun in my Cummins, 300c, mk4 tdi or my motorcycle doesn’t mean I’m not a driving enthusiast. You’re an idiot man, we don’t all look for the same thing in vehicles. I love torque, deep rumbling exhausts with turbo whistle, exhaust breaks, and manual transmissions, you don’t that’s why I have what I have and you don’t

[@Jlewismedia]

@@horrorkidd369 to add, how many cars make that sort of power out of the box anyway. People will be driving 4-6cyl Naturally aspirated cars that weigh 1500kg, might be a smidgen faster and still try to shit on Miatas lol

[@Swampster70]

As someone that raced Miata's for years - don't change what works. It's a drivers car. Small, light, agile and fun. If you can't make it go fast around a track or through quiet country roads the fault is not with the car, it's with you. An absolute legend of a car. That said, I would love a version that comes bare bones. No stereo, no AC (I live in NorCal near Sac and my 94 Miata had no AC), manual steering rack and a pair of Sparco FIA approved fiberglass seats.

[@jC-kc4si]

If they could allow the seat to move about 4 inches back and lower down it could expand the customer base maybe even twofold. If we're talking weight and size constraints, why is there room for a passenger?

[@joeleyendecker5346]

The people who complained probably haven't even ever driven one. Most of them would "Get it" if they did.... If they don't they have NO business even getting in one. They're like Go Karts for the Road!!!!

[@joeleyendecker5346]

"Purrrrr"fect combo!!!

[@rya3190]

​@@jC-kc4siI got to drive a 1st gen, and, with my knee pinned and my foot only able to stay in line with the clutch, I agree.

[@stumpf9938]

@@rya3190I’m 5’11” and I fit in my 91 like a glove. Any taller and I do think it could be a little tight. I don’t even ride with the seat all the way back to be fair so there might be a little more room in there.

[@NihokSan]

this is one one the best sport car concept ever made

[@nateb9768]

This dude sounds like the car version of Linus Tech Tips

[@GbmbRnmf]

It sounds so much like him it's unbelievable😮😮😮

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

lmao he really does

[@jonathankacala5215]

he does! nice catch

[@teplonosia420]

Dude you are so true. The only thing he's missing is the accent

[@snxc1627]

First thing I also thought as well, same cadence and mannerisms as Linus too 😂

[@somedudenamedryan]

The Miata is perfect the way it is. One of the few simple lightweight cars left on the market. I would like to see Mazda come out with a beefier sports car to directly compete with the supra/Z/Mustang. Like a true "RX7" successor, just probably not rotary

[@literallyhuman5990]

Make a coupe, 350hp, rwd. Hybrid? Maybe, but I prefer full ICE because the engine goes vroom and maybe with the manual option with 5 or 6 speed, doesn't need to be flashy. And then make a one off wagon of it.

[@largebills337]

They can go rotary if they bring Rob Dahm in the design room. I know....I know.... but what if they did?

[@largebills337]

​@@literallyhuman5990One off wagon would be 🔥🔥🔥 I miss the Protege wagon.

[@leovillant768]

Hell yeah

[@sheeshulex]

Back in the early 2010's or late 2000's Mazda could have replaced the RX-8 with a similar powered, piston engine car. NC Miata and SE3P share chassis and MZR 2.0 used in NC Miata is very close to MZR 2.3 Turbo from Mazdaspeed3. Even after the divorce from FOMOCO and introduction of Skyactiv-G engines the 2.0 liter from ND Miata (maybe with a turbo) or 2.5 liter variant would be a good replacement. Mazda has plenty of parts in the bin and (I hope) they are not dumb, so I think they won't make it because they don't think anyone's willing to buy one.

[@doodskie999]

Pls Mazda, dont listen to these critics. Keep the Miata as it is.

[@unclefester4626]

I would much rather have a mustang 4 cyl but fords quality is in the toilet.....

[@doodskie999]

@@unclefester4626 you do you man, but I hope Mazda doesnt change the miata's DNA due to pressure from these critics

[@q3dm1337]

It's only clickbait critics. Almost all generations sold tremendously well

[@Sandlotlegend]

The man is perfect. There’s no changes that need to be added to the car.

[@UceyJuceyJey]

I definitely think that Miata’s have their own culture to them. They’re not for everyone, but for those of us who like them, *fucking love them* 😭

[@alexanderdanielsson6049]

i drive m240i and can say i was impressed driving one of the newer miatas. makes driving feel sporty even when not going that fast

[@tiagobelo4965]

The only thing that can out-miata a Miata is a caterham seven, and that's just not a very livable car

[@alexanderdanielsson6049]

@@tiagobelo4965 suzuki cappuccino is up there aswell

[@Randommmmm204]

Miatas are for people who actually like driving.

[@brewcityboatclub8299]

The Miata has had a great track record of being the fun little go kart that likes to slide out the rear end for every generation, and we gotta keep it like that. If US regulations didn't change, it'd still have pop ups just for every car enthusiast to make it blink

[@GrzegorzDurda]

they can still make headlight that close they just have to be pedestrian friendly.

[@Orxbane]

@@GrzegorzDurda Nobody should care about pedestrians. If they don't want to get hit, don't walk where cars are.

[@GrzegorzDurda]

@@Orxbane That's what i said when took the pop headlights away. 100% agreed. We all lose due to morons.

[@Orxbane]

@CaptainFordo21 so which garbage team do you root for the capitols or the 75ers?

[@LordMcKrakenVonLittleBits]

The Miata is purpose built as a good blank slate to do what you want to with it. It should never be bigger or heavier.

[@mastercricket7626]

Ya know what brotha , this is tbh prolly the best explanation I have heard for it .. mad respect there brotha ... peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z famz

[@Frosty-273]

ALL cars should not have changed... PERIOD! Bring back cars people actually want!

[@robertbisson9499]

Back in late 1989 a shop i worked at in LA stuffed a built 302 Ford engine backed by a top loader 4 speed & a shortened 9" rear axle with a 3.91:1 gear in a 1989 Miata. It was a theft recovery stripped of it's drivetrain. We called it the "Cobra for the 90s". That little Miata easily smoked the tires through every gear. I wish i knew what happened to that car. Hopefully someone, somewhere still has it. It was red, it was hella loud & it was crazy fast & traction was an issue, thats all I remember.

[@AD-mcfurious3663]

Sounds nice

[@AreJayyRodriguez]

ive seen builds on here on yt where they take a fox body 5.0 motor, trans, shortened drivetrain & rear axle, the cut the firewall out the miata and move it back 2"

[@user-yi9yb9nt6u]

To be fair I think any swapped Miata has traction issues unless you dropped a lawnmower engine in there 😭😂

[@chrisbisone4447]

I drove a red one here in Wisconsin back in early 90s. 5.0 swapped and guy let me drive it. Powerful as a mother trucker. Back tires were bald. Lol!!!!

[@Billswiftgti]

I think "traction was an issue" is a big understatement.

[@ismuzakku]

The old pop up headlights is a core memory that should never change

[@MycketTuff]

Yeah, this I feel is the actual complaint people have and not this made up trash he's spouting for engagement.

[@Anthonybrother]

Mazda is stupid if they don't offer to add pop-up headlights as a factory option

[@teklife]

agreed, but i think pop-up headlights are illegal

[@Razor_5k]

​@@MycketTuff what he saying isn't made up ive seen way to many old head Americans arguing in comments

[@jl3303]

They’ve been ruined for me forever by Tik Tok kids making them wink.

[@EkanshVerma68360]

Only one part that new miata is hated: 1) no pop-up headlights (thx for 1.2k likes you can subscribe)

[@sunnythefish4006]

True lol

[@davidjd123]

Im sure there will be mods.

[@TheNotsorealGetosuguru]

Ye

[@runarjans]

In Belgium the nd has less power and weights more than an nb

[@sebastian1961]

Pop-up headlights are illegal in EU because of danger to pedestrians (when hit). Therefore no mass production car will ever have pop-up headlights ever again. Well maybe if some US manufacturer decides to make a car just for the US market because you guys don’t care about others peoples lives

[@danielkumar195]

I love the new miata/MX-5 its stayed true to it's roots

[@BJdagoat]

I’m a diehard American muscle fan but the urge to get one of these is become unbearable 😎

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Do it! Do it! Do it!

[@josephrumpsa180]

Do it! Do it! Do it!

[@josephrumpsa180]

I owned/drove nothing but RWD V8s until my late 20's, then I bought a 300SL, and a 124 spider when the SL's engine decided it didn't like having oil pressure. I really don't like driving my old V8 cars anymore as they're big and lumbery. The G body wagon is pretty fun to slide around, but I'd rather be feeling the G-Force, not the G-Walk, yaknowhatimeeen?

[@ev-ezaye3580]

​@@josephrumpsa180🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's the "G-Walk" for me

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

The Miata is the graduation cap of the gearhead. Some people throw them, some keep them, but no one graduated without having one. Graduate.

[@jackofalltrades2175]

Please don't change the miata.... the miata is one of the few cars that has stood the test of time and held true to its roots... it's simply a great car

[@tailsneon556]

Like Jason Cammisa said in his Icons episode. Because Mazda didn't mess with the formula is the reason it still exists today.

[@lupineee]

Nah, we love small cars. I loooove the ND Miata

[@toyotaae86trueno]

They should bring back pop up headlights

[@robruben13]

People complained that a miata is too small? "Whys this bus have so many seats?!"

[@supaoranges1086]

I love the way the new ones look. Sharp as hell

[@janebeneezercabrera5364]

I always see alot of older people driving it😂 Must be the coolest retirement car😂

[@MannahSonne]

Mazda should reintroduce Rx7 again so those Miata haters will shut up.

[@Tallthatsall6-6]

agree

[@lemonmaster8933]

All the brapper fans would be happy with that

[@MV1_RL]

I would cop so fucking fast ong

[@darrellstephen3085]

I have had 3 RX7s would buy a 4th.

[@Buberino]

they did, it was called the Rx8 and it sold very poorly because it was not really reliable same for the rx7

[@ValenThePowerful]

the only change I would honestly want, is probably more power or a turbo charger. but thats just my opinion.

[@gersonFls7]

And to imagine that in Japan there is a segment of smaller cars called K cars, which make a Miata to look BIG . Miata is good they way it is

[@ramishrambarran3998]

Kei cars.

[@christopherlowery855]

So, because its not a crossover SUV, they hate it... Just get a CX-5. If the platform is too small, get a Nissan Z, or one of many BMW Sedans. Let us have our low-powered roadster and keep it exactly as it is. Mazda nailed the return to form. The NC was the "bigger" miata. We didn't like it. I didn't at least. I'll chase down a fellow NA, or NB driver, but not an NC driver unless it's heavily modified. Its like a less ugly Saturn Sky. *shutter*

[@keymow1029]

It's heavier by at most 300 pounds, really not much of a difference, and has a lot more power stock than the previous generations, it's definitely the ugly duckling though haha

[@Notcomplete69]

Ooof

[@keymow1029]

@sadMiataboy we have the same color lol, mines the nc2 with the face lift

[@Notcomplete69]

@@keymow1029 nice, i got the base model from 2006. Its what got me into cars and eventually autocross. I wouldnt trade it for anything. Im hoping to do the 2.5 swap when my schedule and funds permit me. But until colledge is done ill settle for a nice set of coilovers and a welded diff lol.

[@leovillant768]

​@@Notcomplete69if course the miata will get swapped

[@swagg6301]

I don’t drive one, but I like seeing those things out there. It’s iconic.

[@agunther08]

Its not a huge high HP super car, But you will never find another car that is as much fun to drive. By the way it’s as reliable as the day is long. Great little car, I will never sell mine.

[@deadeyeduncan5022]

Got a Miata to drive while I was figuring out problems with my G37x, haven't bother to figure those problems out since I got the Miata. '96

[@simpwood4973]

These people don‘t get sports cars. And as a result the 911 is now an overweight turbocharged pig with automatic gearbox and 4wd. Never change Miata.

[@sheepp40duck40]

My only gripe with the modern miata is the lack of pop up headlights god i wish they would bring that back

[@yozaqura5186]

The only thing that could maybe benefit it would be a slightly wider stance and higher revs not necessarily more power just more range in each gear, but I also don’t think the civic should have been turbocharged again just more revs more fun have a civic type R N/A spoon engine with 250hp and 10k rpm I would be happy.

[@mr.breadguy_]

I mean, it looks great, but I'm definitely after the pop up headlights lol

[@Ketchup_And_Rice]

They wanted the Miata to be bigger?...is this the Mini Cooper all over again? (Its not so MINI anymore it just became another small hatchback)

[@lordrico5988]

The first car I ever bought with my own money, was a 1999 Miata. To this day, 5 years later, I regret every moment that has passed without having that car. I have never had more fun driving, than when I was in that two door, rear wheel drive, 5 speed manual, cruising the backroads of Oregon in the summertime with my friends and there civics. The Miata should never change.

[@ESRohner]

Same!!! The first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1994 NA. I bought it at age 27 in 2017, and my wife and I loved that car. I learned to drive manual with it. We cruised the rocky mountains in the summer, and took it to go skiing every weekend in the winter. Unfortunately, I totaled it when another driver on the road made an illegal left hand over a painted median and forced me to T-bone them. Such an injustice to lose a Miata that way... Big sad. I broke my arm and it healed. My heart? Never the same... RIP Devin.

[@touristguy87]

Whatever. we assume that you would have died if you hadn't sold it, or you almost died when you wrecked it, or you died inside when it was stolen from you.

[@cliffthelightning]

@@touristguy87Danm man i think you should look up mental heath counseling instead of being on youtube

[@touristguy87]

@@cliffthelightning are you a mental-health professional? Or just reaching for a shield for your shattered ego

[@cliffthelightning]

@@touristguy87 xd

[@RaveCoaster]

"People dont like the new miata." You mean non-enthusiasts. A miata is lightweight,low power,budget,verycompact, and fun to drive. that's the Miata.

[@Mr5pokemon]

The best part about my Miata is that it’s simple you get in you drive. There’s nothing fancy about it. It’s only purpose is to have fun or get you from point a to point b in a fun way

[@dennisgamarra1790]

Perfect for when you crave the twisty turnies

[@biljancanin]

I hope they won't change, and i hope Toyota would bring back the MR2. That one was terrific, especially the gen2...

[@dennistyler9852]

Or the Celica.

[@aaronjackson4497]

People always forget that the MR2 wasn't a cheap car in the 90s. MSRP in 94, adjusted for inflation, was nearly 50k.

[@krzykris]

I had a 1991 MR2. It's the one thing I let go in life that I regret losing.

[@Yoohoo_42]

Miata Is Always The Answer

[@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot]

Hi there! Jesus says to you today: "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest." -Matthew 11:28 May God bless you! 😊

[@thomasfioramonti2438]

if the gr86 is not in the options. elsewere 50/50

[@StevePHolland]

@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot will will there be beer and snacks

[@ghostpeanut1595]

Maybe pop up headlights might work and help because many people like that

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Ah the good old "farm interaction video". Make a claim that unidentified peoples are saying something a target group would find controversial, then make statement that confirms bias and strokes ego of said group. Targeted manipulation. Disgusting.

[@Cody_Cigar]

Finally someone who gets it. And I'm adding even more interaction right now but all I wanna say is thank you for being sane. Exactly my thoughts, I'm glad there's still people like you.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

@@Cody_Cigar back at you, starts to feel mighty lonely out there with all the people being led around by the nose.

[@ramons14]

Damn, I would not have realized this if I didn’t read your comment. Guess I should start saying Bah and speaking sheep

[@TakeMeToYoFishmonger]

the miata is one of the last of the small cars, most brands have fallen to creating bloated corpses of shitty suvs and crossovers, but the miata still just works

[@Tieaga]

As an NA Miata owner myself I'll share my journey with it. I wanted to Hagard 1. Test drove it and changed my mind. I wanted to turbo it, blow it up and LS swap it. Changed my mind. I've kept the slightly modded 1.6 the same for 6 years now and won't change it. Slightly modded being intake, long tube headers, and exhaust. Everything else is cosmetic

[@fivefootegg3029]

What pisses me off is STILL NO FLIP UPS. if they just rerelease the old miata with the same exact parts, they would make millions. billions even

[@EngineerOfVaul]

Cars are getting bigger and heavier over the years. Even the Miata's closest peers have gotten much bigger in their most recent iterations. In this day and age, the Miata keeping it's small, lightweight built only emphasises more on what made it appealing in the first place.

[@HenryGottschalk]

Why can't car companies bring back pop-up headlights. Miatas looked better with them.

[@lourenco3216]

They cant. Legaly making them road safe is basicly impossible in every major country.

[@perkypears]

they were outlawed from being put on new cars because if you hit someone with your car theyre gonna roll over the hood and the big sharp flat lights would hurt them a lot more. it sucks but it makes sense

[@JustWilson]

I can't wait, only reason I'm becoming an engineer is to bring them back for good

[@reelne]

hurr durr they hurt on impact hurr durr its unsafe We now have the means to close those in a fraction of a second on approach/on impact, but lawmakers seem to have more important stuff to do than appearing on their jobs

[@DrSmugface]

@@reelne look i get the pop up headlights but the miata itself is soon to be dead in a world where everyone drives a SUV or a truck the miata will might vanish for ever cause its just not safe enough anymore ..

[@stevegall3594]

We’ve got a 1990. Wifey like our son Little Tikes toy car and thought the Miata looked like it. 25 years later still rocking it. Belt broke on the PS/ACpulley and WOW! What a horsepower increase alone!!!

[@oreofudgeman]

It's not a good car for your ego, but if you love a good driving experience, it's THE car for you.

[@josephnus]

Just like Jason Cammisa said. The affordable sportscar was perished because the enthusiasts got greedy. You have a simple 2-door coupe sportscar to start with, then the next thing they want is more power which is reached through fitting a turbo, then you have to add intercooler, give it wider wheels to accommodate the additional power, beef up the suspension, and it all adds up as a cost that the buyer has to pay. Suddenly it isn’t affordable anymore. Miata (and 86 to some extent) are still exist to this day because they don’t give what the enthusiasts want. They simply give what the enthusiasts truly need by simply keeping the original recipe.

[@DragonKnightX12]

No it perished because people stopped buying sports cars in favor of 4x4 land yachts. The Miata has actually gotten pretty expensive itself, and it's avg buyers is 75 year olds now. Most kids are probably gonna opt for a Mustang or a hot hatch.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

I started with a '97, added a turbo, intercooler, bigger rad, stiffened it up, beefed up the suspension, bigger brakes, stiffer sway bars, bigger wheels and tires. Weight is up to 2,250 lbs. It's a hoot.

[@rhysblaney3121]

It was the same with the GT86. Everyone said that it was slow compared to [Insert Generic Car Here]. But for those of us who have driven one properly, or who have modified one. They are brilliant.

[@broken080]

Yup. Just did a whole track day in an 86 with full track prep, cage, on slicks. I was blown away. I passed a Shelby mustang on slicks.

[@fabcardx4036]

For me it was the reason I didnt buy one. The 200 hp didnt feel like that. I was very dissappointed, because I like the looks. But my 122 hp diesel felt very similar to the 200 hp and that disappointed me

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

Ur right, if they point to other cars then they should just buy THOSE cars! 😂🍻

[@SilVer-hu2ps]

Miata should stay as is. Enjoyable even in low speeds.

[@rysocolla9384]

The only change I want is to have pop up headlights back

[@mastercricket7626]

YESSSSSS!

[@literallyhuman5990]

Yeah... The regulations though...

[@Ephem13]

​@@BlueOvals24the regulations that block pop up headlights isn't that they have to be fixed In place, it's that they cannot have any sharp angled surfaces on the front end. Basically a pop up headlight would have to look like a blobfish on land to pass safety regulations.

[@assininecomment1630]

What about if they were shaped and raised like those on the old Porsche 928​, @@Ephem13?

[@crazyadam9281]

I personally don't want them back, it's just another additional mechanism to break.

[@cheapspace]

I remember I wasn’t interested in the Miata.. until I got one at as a rental… it is truly one of the most fun I ever had in a car the handling alone is worth it. No, only people who haven’t driven one asks for a bigger car.

[@user-nx9hb3ct2f]

Imagine bringing the pop up headlights back for a future model. Like a Nostalgia Model, i would buy that

[@TimmyTantrum]

With Honda continuing to not offer a manual transmission gas-powered successor to the S2000, I am increasingly moving towards getting a new Miata, now that I find myself in a position to get a "for fun" car. I hate the technology, hybrid/EVs crap, and the Miata is pretty much the only light, simple, gas-powered manual transmission option on the market.

[@YeahItsRico]

People need to learn the word “quintessential” and its definition

[@Desorobear]

I have an nd1 and its the most fun thing ive ever driven, ive had and driven other sports with more power, turbo, forged internals, everything and nothing has brought me more joy than whippin around in this little thing

[@MrDannyZ123]

They're about 40k ++ here in Canada, which I wouldn't say is super affordable

[@rafliduatinova]

Rookie number. It was 55K++ in Indonesia, some even reached 60

[@elichen7716]

In my area a base Miata is around 30k plus dealer markups

[@KekusMagnus]

You can get a good condition NA for 4000$

[@MrDannyZ123]

@@KekusMagnus not round these parts. I wish it were the good old days

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

@@KekusMagnus A rust free NA is close to 10K here.

[@Caffeine_compoun]

Ngl I wish it still had the pop up lights

[@KindaKyle36]

Keep small cars alive ❤

[@MahadShahzad08]

It's fun , fast , cheap and lightweight. What more could you possibly want from a miata. There is a reason it's always the answer

[@Normal_cat5150]

It’s not cheap at all…

[@Hazzard200008]

@@Normal_cat5150maybe you are the broke one. Is cheap

[@Normal_cat5150]

@@Hazzard200008 the new ND is 40 grand man in comparison the 124 spider is around 21k

[@Normal_cat5150]

@@Hazzard200008 and the spider comes with a lsd and a turbski

[@Hazzard200008]

@@Normal_cat5150 dude, Mx5 is 31k new and Fiat 124 was discontinued since 2019.

[@HansShackleford]

I love that they still make them

[@skizecraft]

We already have too many big cars. Let smaller fun cars just exist like damn

[@judsonstephens5264]

I absolutely agree, the Miata should never ever change. There’s a reason for it success and it is that formula. If we look at competitors like the s2000 and z3 and even some of the ones Lotus’s, we’ll see they all were discontinued, but the Miata prevails

[@TimotheeChalametsPeach]

Never ever compare a Miata to any lotus 😒

[@judsonstephens5264]

@@TimotheeChalametsPeach brother, the Miata was inspired by British roadsters and especially the Lotus Elan :)

[@fivenightsatfreddursts2325]

@@TimotheeChalametsPeachthe lotus elan is why the Miata exists

[@axelportillo7558]

On the contrary, Miata and Lotuses are more closely related than you think ;)

[@readysetnogo]

Leave the miata alone. Keep it simple and small.

[@itself227]

Your actually right. We need more cars like the Miata

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Oh, others have tried but the fucked them up!

[@Justkeepdriving196]

I have a 92 Miata and I like driving it more then my Mercedes Benz it’s way more fun.

[@xXxDurandalxXx]

the miata is literally one of my favorite cars ever, for one reason, it stays the same, theyve been the same shape, same size, since the original

[@ag4allgood]

The 4th Generation was built keeping the original NA Generation in mind. Gram weight strategy in that ND. Taking out every last bit of weight. The result was my 2016 Club soft top weighs 2340 pounds.

[@tnazty]

42k before taxes ain't a budget buy for what you get.

[@CarsonHolmes-nq9cs]

SO far I've inly heard "people don't like the new mazda miata" and I am saying "IT NEEDS THE POP UP HEADLIGHTS!!!😭😭

[@xachcox]

Hell no never change the miata i love those cars with everything i got

[@gusibrahim6961]

My son has one. I love it so easy to maintain. Looking in the engine bay and it took to the mazda of the 70s! Same hoses, radiator cap, and everything else. It should never change in my viewpoint..

[@bzilla-d4i]

Mazda MX-5 is for the casual track day. Lotus Elise is for people who have serious performance in mind.

[@jalakor]

Me personally, I can’t fit in any of the older Miatas (my head literally rises above the windshield with the top down…), and I suspect I can’t fit in the newer ones. I do think the new ones are neat. Nice and sporty looking, and I hope they keep aiming for the same demographic, and keeping the costs down. Cost efficient, sporty cars are a dying breed, I pray the car industry keeps making them (I don’t understand why people don’t like buying them, purely economy cars just aren’t powerful enough to even zip around a little in traffic, and most cars that aren’t super powerful 300+hp machines are not gas guzzlers).

[@giulioiodice2114]

because people want confort in a car even a sport one, this is why this type of car has gone, people want a car that do it all , miata type are not that product

[@jalakor]

@ I think that’s a tad silly. Comfort is not quite as important than loving the car and being able to afford it. I think a basic standard of comfort is fine, but our culture is obsessed with tech “necessities” that are really just “nice to haves”.

[@kyototomokui6676]

People who buy a Miata and complain it’s too small should not be driving if they’re dumb enough to complain about it.

[@unbrainer_ml02]

The company that rebuild a city that was distroyed by war They deserve respect

[@Liam-f4z]

I thought it was gonna be because no flip up headlights

[@spedsec]

Sure it could be little faster but I enjoy it how it is