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@Maximusls2400 Жыл бұрын
Could we get the best lexus cars vid to buy?
@joesguiltyguitar Жыл бұрын
I hope your grandson enjoys watching your videos on KZbin... Have a good one Scotty ..
@Gooberpeanut Жыл бұрын
Being in the car repair business? I'm afraid he does know what he's talking about. Right to the point. Years of experience. It makes sense on all information that some don't know about ? Great video 👍
@goldsbym Жыл бұрын
They don't put a dipstick on a BMW because the dipstick is the owner. Lol
@usmustdie4peace405 Жыл бұрын
Could you do that with Mercedes too? I really would like to know whats your opinion is
@mcj01915 Жыл бұрын
In Germany, we could always identify BMWs from a distance by the plume of blue-ish smoke that came from the tailpipe because they were all burning oil, even when almost new. It was literally a BMW "trademark." In Germany they're known as "Braucht mal Werkstatt" (needs repair shop), "Besser man wandert" (better off walking), "Bayerischer MistWagen" (Bavarian manure truck), and many more such explanations of the acronym. Being an ex-pat German, many people have asked me why I'm not driving a German car. Well, this video explains why.
@mikeyblueeyes8449 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it also because generally when you buy them second hand they've been completed ragged by people who like racing them around?
@Leon13410 Жыл бұрын
Würde ich einen toyota kaufen für 40000 nein einen bmw? Ja warum ich zahle keine 40000 für einen schwulen toyota 😂😂
@Greymane-e5t Жыл бұрын
Just curious, how do they do business with such poor quality control?
@mizzlin834 Жыл бұрын
@FA no, its meant for exclusivity..,buy new under warranty..,
@kamikakushi_ Жыл бұрын
Is this also what happened on BMW's high end models?
@davisd5203 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts...On my 3rd BMW, love these cars, always keep up to date with maintenance and I find less surprises and expenses that way. This model has definitely been neglected. Got 250,000km on a 330i with no lights, no rust, smooth as silk and a great performer.
@Salty_Legionnaire Жыл бұрын
It's exactly like that, beautiful women also need more attention.
@everydayguy289 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I never had a problem with a bmw. The funny thing is look how old the car Is and the faults in the video don't even effect the way the car drives lol most cars this old will have these problems
@valentine--vincent4590 Жыл бұрын
@@everydayguy289 I drive a BMW too. A 2011 model year 335i. Both of you are right. I was thinking the same things but I’m no stranger to Scotty. He mentions the car has variable valve timing. So does your Honda, Lexus, Chevrolet, TOYOTA (Scotty) etc. Outrageous and so complex! Everyone has their preferences and opinions but these cars are not all that different from any other passenger car on the road, mechanically speaking. I will say, if you’re a hands-off kind of person, don’t like knowing about your car and don’t like to waste time with pesky things like car washes and general maintenance, then yes, they are not for you. 😮💨
@firearmmanic Жыл бұрын
How much was your maintenance?
@bankerjay4889 Жыл бұрын
I have one too and it drives great. Btw you can still check the oil if your i drive system doesn’t work by using the digital screen on your instrument cluster but I know Scotty doesn’t know that
@atlasgunther8947 Жыл бұрын
Scotty's so honest that he speaks openly even at the expense of embarrassing his own family. That's truth loyalty.
@susieinthecountry4434 Жыл бұрын
love the honesty, Scotty. Y didn't your grandson consult u when he was thinking of buying a car? Encourage him to sell it immediately.
@Zebra_3 Жыл бұрын
Scotty's ex-grandson owns a BMW.
@EndritBajramiEshte21 Жыл бұрын
😂
@dmnz3878 Жыл бұрын
@@Zebra_3 😂
@shawnbernardi793 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar He's stated before about 8 cylinder Lexus rigs being expensive to maintain.
@jimmyx44 Жыл бұрын
I own a BMW 2015 550i, and Scotty is spot on when it comes to the amount of money you spend to fix BMWs. However, they do not break as easily. I change the oil regularly, and I'm up to date with maintenance, and it's still driving fine. Is it more reliable than a Toyota? Maybe not, but it is way more fun and comfortable to drive than most cars. Finally if you are concerned about gas prices, then BMW is not for you.
@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын
why whats your fuel econ?
@TheRidersChoice Жыл бұрын
You’re on a N63 iterationthat is known to leak oil. They really do need a change every 5k miles. You should go drive a m550i, especially 2020+. The current N63 is bullet proof and an absolute monster.
@jimmyx44 Жыл бұрын
M550i sounds tempting, but I'm more interested in a Pick up, since I have kids, the F10 is no longer ideal.
@markremy4946 Жыл бұрын
@japanwatchconnection Junk money pits
@FELIPE8226M Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@captainchaos3174 Жыл бұрын
I've owned many BMW's, and still have one (2007 530d Auto E60) . I've never had to spend big money on any of them, besides normal wear and tear items. But, I look after my cars and do my own work on them. I don't drive my cars until something breaks. I believe in preventative maintenance.
@betterbeavailable Жыл бұрын
I had 2 BMWs and never had any serious issues with them. But that's just reality and not hearsay.
@AncientEvilSaiyan Жыл бұрын
i own 3 s85 v10s 2 m6s 1 m5 and only had to do rods and actuators, these cars drive amazing and if you warm up the oil and change the oil every 4 miles they wont break on you
@DSBeats_100 Жыл бұрын
Every 4k miles I assume?
@cbrfishingguy9623 Жыл бұрын
diesel is much better than petrol
@emdoubleyew3788 Жыл бұрын
I inherited my dad’s 2011 325i xdrive. Got me from NY to ME and NY to SC. Has almost 150k on it. We talked about buying a new one before he passed but I’m glad this one is going. Found a local mechanic that does work on it which I’m super thankful for. It’s still fun as hell to drive with its straight six. I’m trying to keep it as long as possible🤞🤞🤞
@hloni_saved_by_grace3904 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your dad's passing
@Future_fisher Жыл бұрын
I wasnt aware they made the 325i in 2011. But thats neat! Ive had good luck with bmws as well. Their six cylinder motors are decent
@russellstewart5414 Жыл бұрын
Same here with an 04 3series convertible. No way will the wife let me sell it. No way near as complex as what he was showing us. But a lot of the new cars today require the same kind of upkeep
@DannyBoyGhost Жыл бұрын
There is no 2011 325i 2006 was last of them
@JustinDaniels Жыл бұрын
I like the styling of SOME older BMWs, but when I was looking at used cars a while ago, the fact that older BMWs are going cheaper than Toyotas and Hondas of the same year sure tells something...
@2flocks Жыл бұрын
Tells that people are scared of maintaining their cars.
@g-force2745 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar The difference is that Lexus's have Toyota engines (thus Toyota reliability) and since when have you heard of a steering wheel breaking on a car? 🤔 Besides, who is Scooty?
@flouisbailey Жыл бұрын
@@g-force2745 Had 7 BMWs in my life loved the first Two, the rest just had problems some from start my bad just loved look and feel on road, last one had the hardest seats ever made my back hurt and leg go numb. Then used Lexus only one 10 years old other 11, GS and RX my wife can’t decide which one she likes the best. Dogs ride in GS rocks to firewood in RX.
@g-force2745 Жыл бұрын
@@flouisbailey Scoty? lol 😄
@blakeh6250 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar you're repeating yourself, go to therapy.
@Naesen Жыл бұрын
"this thing runs like a scalded ape" That one got me.
@g5alive795 Жыл бұрын
Exactly how does a scalded ape run??? 😲😲😲
@Naesen Жыл бұрын
@@g5alive795 like a BMW obviously
@Joeibovoni6 ай бұрын
"...runs like stink!" 😅😅😅 (Whatever that means!)
@stevenkenney3748 Жыл бұрын
Been watching you for years. I listen to you old great one !!!! I am a poor man. And by your wisdom and knowledge that has been talk to me. I bought a 2012 Lexus RX 350 with 90,000 miles on it I'm happy as hell!!!!!
@vicktormarlenko2119 Жыл бұрын
Yeah kinda same here. 2016 lex rc 350 f sport, with 62k miles on it. Not one codes on scanner lol
@georgeanddaddecker7563 Жыл бұрын
Work at a Lexus dealer. V6 engines have timing cover leaks and have to be removed from vehicle to re seal. All car brands have issues, not just BMW.
@AlexKasper Жыл бұрын
If you want your BMW fun and your wallet intact (more or less) you need to be a DIY mechanic. Heck, with most of the repairs you can buy several fancy tools yourself and do stuff. Just make sure you still have a drama-free daily driver so you can still go out to pick up spare parts for the bimmer.
@fargeeks Жыл бұрын
I know a mechanic with his own bmw
@timothykeith1367 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Its got to be the hobby lifestyle. Be proactive. Fix leaks before they cause more trouble etc. Especially watch the cooling system -check the coolant level at least once a week and don't assume anything except a leak when its low. Follow the BMW forums. I've went looking for nice Toyotas - found clean looking ones, but look under the valve cover and see sludge - many don't do the maintenance like they should. That leads to BMW being called money pits - which they certainly can be when you can't diagnose and do basic repairs. Same with Subaru or brand X. I have an E30 from way back, it is a fundamentally solid design, but somewat overrated - mostly because its got a 'timeless' style.
@Chubbycat747 Жыл бұрын
I would buy a German luxury car and work on it, but I'm worried about parts cost.
@lilsstrunks Жыл бұрын
@@Chubbycat747 honestly, there are so many aftermarket oem parts out there it's easy to find a decent part that's in your price range. Only things I get that are BMW are engine internals like vvt etc for my 09 328i
@desoneill5489 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right! - That's what I'm doing right now. I have bought a heap of tools, mainly on eBay. I have yet to buy a scanner which I am going to get in the very near future.
@KG-ou4nm Жыл бұрын
2006 650 do have an oil dip stick, driver side top near fire wall. Great car when they work, over engineered in many places. 2006 was the last year that a 650 had a dipstick. Biggest problem is the complex access to changing part or repairs, plus the cost of BMW part.
@amandeepbaa6978 Жыл бұрын
@@harveyhankerson8359 in dreamland
@homesold Жыл бұрын
Maybe they engineered for a few years of ultimate driving by the original purchaser, then to be traded-in and forgotten?
@amandeepbaa6978 Жыл бұрын
@@harveyhankerson8359 maybe u haven't had baby with drama and catastrophe experience
@trukomf1nn162 Жыл бұрын
So does my 2004 520i with M54 engine. Durable machine. No oil consumption.
@antekqwe Жыл бұрын
@@amandeepbaa6978 It's not a cheap, faulty Alfa Romeo.
@simonfowler7561 Жыл бұрын
Scotty I love your channel and your honesty. Regarding this BMW video I have to say that in the States you guys have a totally different approach to German cars than we do here in Europe. We have a vast network of specialist NON OFFICIAL dealers who work on German cars and in many cases these guys are excellent and charge a fraction of the official "stealers" rates. I have a 2005 Audi S4 Avant (4.2 V8 no turbo) which has about 220k kms on the clock and she still goes really well. She was serviced by the official Audi stealers until I bought her and now I use the independents. We always use original parts (Bosch or whatever) and top quality oils so no compromises there but I can keep her running at a fraction of the cost that the official stealers ask. I also had a Vito van (just sold it and purchased a newer version) which I bought new in 2009 and just sold with 180k kms on the clock and I have NO problems to report, just regular servicing. Anyway, please keep yer videos coming thanks!!! Simon
@valentine--vincent4590 Жыл бұрын
You’re correct my friend! We do have unofficial BMW -non dealership- mechanics here too. If you have one of these cars you should know one IF you end up in a pinch. I’ve done most of the preventative maintenance on my BMW myself. I think what you are recognizing is that many Americans are just not interested in maintaining their vehicles or are “afraid” to do some of the work themselves. For those people, the BMW dealerships will be happy to assist you. 😅
@flam7469 Жыл бұрын
why would you ever go to the dealer or an official BMW repair place for an old bimmer? I bought an old one, found a nice unofficial place and they've been doing all the work. The official BMW place didn't want to go near my "gray market" bimmer. :P
@barney6888 Жыл бұрын
Even with depression, anxiety and an Irish temper that gets me in trouble with everybody including the police, I watch Scotty's videos on BMWs and laugh until I am healed. I do genuinely thank The Lord for ONE honest mechanic and that's Scotty. "The truth shall set you free." applies here indeed.
@ronaldhazley7859 Жыл бұрын
Irish temper?? Lol
@NociNL Жыл бұрын
Check out the Car Care Nut channel. Also a good one. And yes, Scotty is a legend!
@g-force2745 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar The difference is that Lexus's have Toyota engines (thus Toyota reliability) and since when have you heard of a steering wheel breaking on a car? 🤔 Besides, who is Scooty?
@blakeh6250 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar like you're an expert..give it a break
@amandeepbaa6978 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar dreams
@COZNA Жыл бұрын
You are making it sooo difficult for me to justify my first BMW purchase of a 2020 X6m m50i. But you are hilarious and a great mechanic!
@00700556 Жыл бұрын
You buy vehicles like that for the driving experience…. and that’s still a good vehicle overall
@ab-uh5yt Жыл бұрын
Aslomg as you have warranty you’ll be fine, after warranty is gone toss the car
@chevyboa8950 Жыл бұрын
Is it an x6m or x6 m50i?
@aaronrodriguez1410 Жыл бұрын
@@ab-uh5yt I wouldn't say that either
@valentine--vincent4590 Жыл бұрын
@@chevyboa8950 I’m figuring he means the X6 M50i otherwise should have denoted simply X6 M, as you know.
@JoeBlunt Жыл бұрын
Scotty is ruthless 😆 I love it
@velocast Жыл бұрын
No mercy at all! He will tell you as it is 😀
@jesusbarajas4840 Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣
@Erated78 Жыл бұрын
I drove a manual 1989 BMW 325i around for 2wks back in the 90s - I loved that car - handled well, straight 6cyl made good power. Love ya’ Scotty - Cheers
@NoneYaBiz2008 ай бұрын
Probably the best old school bmw Motor made. The m30b25. I had the 1989 535i with the m30b35. Beautiful mechanical old school sound, lumpy idle, pulled hard but was bad on fuel. Love the old school BMWs
@MitchGrooms Жыл бұрын
So right about the dipstick. again, thanks for putting 2 of my cars on your channel. Hugs dude and so glad you are now in Tennessee
@wagner9050 Жыл бұрын
H-town alright If you like spooks & spics.
@malibuman8941 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mitch, someone said 2006 is the last year they have a dip stick. Btw, love your XJR, and glad you started the XKR
@sambishop4720 Жыл бұрын
I live in houston, been watching your videos for around 15 years. Never have had the chance to meet you, but I wanted to say thank you for your videos and gift of education over the years. I appreciate it and you will be missed in the community. 👍
@rogerklein706 Жыл бұрын
Several years ago I bought a used 2005 Acura RL. My brother, a BMW worshiper, asked why I didn't buy a BMW instead. I just laughed and that was the end of that conversation....
@unlearningcommunism4742 Жыл бұрын
In Europe, BMW (Merc, Audi...) are considered to be serious cars, because standard EU car has only about 120 hp?! Sporty cars have about 150 hp. Imagine how great it is to have a BMW with even 180 hp, or 300+ like this one. However, since I moved to the US, I understand how poorly made German cars are. US has Camry, Camry has 180 hp = it's already better than a "regular" German car for Europe. This is why you don't see 316, 318, 320... And this is why BMW starts in the US with the top-models that are (almost) not sold in EU. Now you pay the price of having unreliable, unimportant engine options, like 645, 650...
@g-force2745 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar The difference is that Lexus's have Toyota engines (thus Toyota reliability) and since when have you heard of a steering wheel breaking on a car? 🤔 Besides, who is Scooty?
@2seep Жыл бұрын
Should’ve bought a bmw. The fun you can have is worth its downfalls
@maciejp7829 Жыл бұрын
@@2seep not worth it!
@2seep Жыл бұрын
@@maciejp7829 fun tho!
@ItsJustMeMcKee10 ай бұрын
I'm on my 4th BMW and I've never had one problem with any of the. I do maintenance on time and I don't drive them into the ground. I can say I'll never buy another American made car because I had nothing but trouble with them.
@JamEZ87 Жыл бұрын
"The refill sensor for cupholder 1 isn't working" Scotty: "You can always fill it up yourself"
@Slenderman63323 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar Yes, but you will pay $0 for those Lexus parts because the original ones never break 😂
@amandeepbaa6978 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar stopid troll
@kerokerobonito3664 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar copy paste
@MisoElEven Жыл бұрын
@@bekerashes Except thats not the reason.. the reason is that every old BMW has been ran by a wannabe student racer, lexus is also much less common.. not saying its a bad car but its marketed more towards Japanese luxury rather than any sporting capabilities
@Perich29 Жыл бұрын
its actually a cupholder cooler, I've seen them in the Nissan Sentra, you can always fill more ice in your cup.
@billnye5183 Жыл бұрын
My 6 series has 95K miles on it with the updated n63TU and it’s all about OIL!! I change it every 5k miles and even little things like engine air filter help things in a loooooooong way :)oil is 116 dollars for me 10 quarts but it’s worth it because she’s run just fine and smooth
@christianbolt5761 Жыл бұрын
My old straight six e46 has been surprisingly good. No worse than the any GM I owned before that. I do most of the maintenance myself though as many will try to rip you off
@GT-pl1wx Жыл бұрын
When I sold my e46 20D it had almost 400.000km! The e46 was another time! Better quality than now!
@desoneill5489 Жыл бұрын
Scotty - I am in Australia and have owned an Aug 2007 3.0d (6 cyl diesel) for 6 years in March. In all that time the only mechanical failure I have had in that time has been the harmonic balance wheel. The plastic crap on my X3 is still in excellent condition. The car now has only 153,000km on thr clock. Fortunately there are many good quality aftermarket parts available for my X3. I have had the swirl flaps (only diesel engines) replaced with blanks. I am currently near the completion of what I term as preventative maintenance. The parts I have replaced in this process are not because they have left me at the side of the road but as a result of their age and km's travelled. I have completely refurbished the front and rear suspensions. I intend to keep this car long term and it is a great car to drive. I am a DIY'er and have learnt a lot carrying out this work. I don't have a hoist to raise the car and all the suspension work has been done using jacks and stands. Sure BMW do some frustrating things e.g. the rear diff has no drain plug just a fill plug, so you have to pump the old oil out in order to change it. The front diff has both a fill and drain plug. BMW's can be a money pit if you let them. My advice to anyone who has one or intends to buy one is to be prepared to carry out some basic maintenance yourself and for those things you can't fix yourself find yourself a very good specialist BMW mechanic who is NOT connected with a dealership. There is also some very good advice available from Facebook sites on your particular BMW and also various KZbin videos. I am now 75 years old and don't mind crawling under my E83 X3 3.0d.
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
Does it have N53 engine in it? I think BMW has some good engines.
@desoneill5489 Жыл бұрын
@@boxoffisa - My Aug 2007 X3 E83 has the M57 (M57D30TÜ) 6cyl 160hp diesel engine. It's the same engine as the big brother X5 diesel. It is matched with the 6 speed ZF auto transmission.
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
@@desoneill5489 you got it right man. Have seen some people with X5 diesel and haven’t had many problems that other BMWs have. I am glad you are enjoying. Can’t wait to be able to afford one day, it’s my dream.
@laszlobauer5274 Жыл бұрын
The diesels are better but you have to have someone to maintain and work on it. I imagine it would be hard to find and expensive to find someone who really knows his way around diesel BMWs in the US.
@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын
I hope I can still be like you in 25 years! I do my own work now too. Did the rubber dry on your harmonic balancer? How is the fuel economy? They have good seats aye?
@lordhogarth Жыл бұрын
I had the good fortune to buy an Audi when I was 21. It was such an awful experience that I’ve never considered buying a German car since. A valuable lesson.
@Jeremyho439 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a 1979 Audi GTi. Very good car.
@bhavdeeprehal8827 Жыл бұрын
Same here. But BMW instead of Audi. Never again
@ian2183 Жыл бұрын
Same here, got a leon 5F FR, basically a golf 7 with a different badge, never again!
@charlesseaton6199 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used 1984 Audi Coupe GT. One of the best cars I ever owned but no turbos or tech stuff to go bad.
@arminius301 Жыл бұрын
Being German I'd like to argue but I can't. Most German cars are nothing but over-engineered, tech-packed endless money pits once the clock reaches 60k miles. I bought a 2014 VW Golf 5 Cyl (no turbo) that actually was a really decent car for the 30k miles I had it. Had to get a truck for hauling and bought a 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7. I'll never look back.
@johnhinkleman9757 Жыл бұрын
Driving a 2006 bmw that my dad has owned since new. Took great care of it and it’s had no issues. It’s all in how the owners take care of them.
@Shelf_Help_ca Жыл бұрын
Haha! The man speaks the truth. My 2010 335i has many of the same issues... but man I still love it. the way these cars drive.
@shaunkellison1761 Жыл бұрын
BMWs actually aren’t bad cars, as long as you’re getting them from the auctions. Insurance companies sell, broken destroyed vehicles at insurance options you can usually get the mangled body of one of these pretty cheap. There’s a lot of metal on a BMW plus a lot of copper wiring. If you can get one of these things for a couple hundred dollars, you could easily get $1200 worth of material out of it. The only problem is it would take a couple of days to tear apart and sort out. But BMWs do have a place in this economy…
@GT-pl1wx Жыл бұрын
🤣👌(laughing German)
@aaronrodriguez1410 Жыл бұрын
@@GT-pl1wx ? B58 and S58 are solid engines
@grantleyhughes Жыл бұрын
Loved the old BMWs. The newer ones no. I know Mercedes have expensive servicing costs, but I do love the ones I've owned. The way they drive and ride is so much better. And inside is a really nice place to be. They eat up long distance travel so well.
@robertromero8692 Жыл бұрын
@@SourceHades Scotty would say "2 years? Get back to me after 15 years".
@torpmorp1324 Жыл бұрын
@@harveyhankerson8359 people take their cars to a mechanic when there are something wrong with them, not when they’re fine
@z4dude131 Жыл бұрын
My 2009 BMW Z4 35i has about 144,000 miles on it so far. I replaced the fuel injectors a couple years ago, index 5 to index 12 and installed a performance ignition coil kit at the same time. BMW is notorious for using plastic parts on their engines that are known to fail due to the constant hot then cold operation temperatures. The valve cover on the N54 engine is plastic and cracked at around 120,000. I have replaced most of the key plastic engine components with aluminum parts which isn’t super expensive. All I can say is my Z4 has been reliable, probably because I haven’t hopped up the engine. It’s plenty fast for me and a blast to drive with the top down.
@fuerstmetternich1997 Жыл бұрын
My 2006 Z4 2.0i has also been pretty reliable for the last 4 years since I have bought it for 9k€. I would say I paid an average of 1400€/year and I went to the dealer everytime. But I have to mention that I am only doing like 5k miles a year so yeah.
@CarlAlin Жыл бұрын
2:35 nah you just get the Seat occupancy simulator! Costs like 20-40 dollars and gets rid of the code and keeps the passenger airbags "active" at all time so its safe. Weird thing but on the 2006's they had this problem. Not on 2005, not on 2007, but 2006 for some reason.
@livinglifeboosted1642 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my E 46, 330I for years and the only thing that has ever gone wrong with it was an electric cooling fan and a clutch replacement. All I have done to this car is basic maintenance breaks oil changes. It has never missed a beat that particular BMW Scotty is one of the creepiest BMWs ever made.
@aeroearth Жыл бұрын
ALL E46 crack the rear subframe mounting points in the body, needing removal of the subframe and welding in of reinforcement plates then multi step painting to prevent rusting, then reassembly. The higher power ones like the 330i tend to crack before the lower power ones.
@livinglifeboosted1642 Жыл бұрын
@@aeroearth that’s actually not completely true, mainly the 3 L diesel and the M3 crack rear subframe is mine is a 3 L petrol and its 21 years old and still hasn’t got cracked subframe and also mine is a saloon which is based on the touring chassis, not the 3 door model
@livinglifeboosted1642 Жыл бұрын
@@aeroearth well as a mechanic for 20 years, I have not yet seen a330 have a cracked subframe My experience has more bin the diesels and the M3 and from my experience, it has been more the coupe chassis that has been affected and I have had the subframe out of my one recently to replace all the subframe bushes and differential bushes, and there are no cracks
@GT-pl1wx Жыл бұрын
Same here! E46 320D
@Momeykid78 Жыл бұрын
You guys are lucky then
@trukomf1nn162 Жыл бұрын
The most annoying thing on my old E60´s dashboard is the missing engine coolant temp gauge! A very basic(!) thing in car monitoring. Yeah, you can dig out the figure by pressing that odometer button..say c. 30 times, very carefully... the other stupid thing is that brake fluid reservoir is covered with...plastic, ha ha! Cannot check the level at one glance the hood open. Otherwise I like it, 19 years old 520i and very reliable. Starts right away in a freezing weather without garage and engine heater.
@hovanthecool1995 Жыл бұрын
BMW: Break My Wallet. Edit: Wow, over 40 likes! Thank you people! Edit #2: Over 70 likes! Wow!
@TTime685 Жыл бұрын
Bavarian Money Well
@espinoza1920 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@DanielE-dk1ws Жыл бұрын
More like " Bring my Wreaker"
@DanielE-dk1ws Жыл бұрын
@@TTime685 lol
@Pileofleaves Жыл бұрын
Bring More Wrenches also
@robertdufour2456 Жыл бұрын
You are a master of the scan tool! Thank you for years of great advice!
@billnasburg1361 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved that vid. I totally agree that they are really cool cars if you don't mind the annoying electrical nightmares. Those 6 series convertibles are really nice, but they can easily be a huge moneypit and that may be why they don't hold their value. Give me a Toyota or a Honda and I can drive a long time before any problem should occur
@175dell Жыл бұрын
Ohh man, Scotty picked a particularly troubled BMtroubleyou model. Those v8's have some stupid expensive problems to fix, like faulty valve guide seals. Haha
@dotdashdotdash Жыл бұрын
The photo jokes are still top notch 😂
@ronaldjones743 Жыл бұрын
Yeah especially when he mentions junk yard and shows a Chevy Dealership LOL
@roderickmartinez4715 Жыл бұрын
The seat occupancy sensor is under the front cushion that slides out don't have to take apart the seat. The dvd player logo is not a DVD movie player it's a DVD ROM drive for navigation. You need to learn about BMWs before you make snap judgements on everything
@4gotten_1 Жыл бұрын
I own one of those BMW's and Scotty still has me rollin!!!
@michaeleno3498 Жыл бұрын
Scotty! You've made it clear that you enjoy being behind those wheels. I have that engine in my 545i and I do all maintenance. And I use it very roughly and it takes all that abuse. Its the experience that matters and can't be gotten anywhere else.
@OS-hx4jk Жыл бұрын
Endless moneypit!
@algirdasdarbinis8028 Жыл бұрын
Can check oil level on dash menu as well. No need to have middle display working
@Future_fisher Жыл бұрын
Ive had 2 bmws and surprisingly had good luck with them. A 3 series and a 1 series
@KugelBlitz0 Жыл бұрын
My mom's BMW is CONSTANTLY giving off the service light warning. Even after it's taken in, it shows up with a new problem about a month later every single time. In addition to the idiotic oil checking system Scotty went over at 4:50, it takes FOREVER to display the results. Instead of dipping a stick in there and knowing right away, you have to awkwardly sit there for 2+ MINUTES before you know your oil levels.
@cockatooadam Жыл бұрын
that is a real deal breaker, who has 2+ minutes to spare when it comes to the health of their car... your mom not seems like
@MisoElEven Жыл бұрын
Change the mechanic lmao...
@danfromflorida7398 Жыл бұрын
The n62 does have a dipstick tho… I have one and I will agree it’s an expensive car to keep for many reasons lol. A lot of electrical issues are caused by the IVM which can be replaced cheap but if you really want to stop all the leaks you need to pull the motor. Prepare to spend about $10,000 after purchase to get one of these sorted.
@m.f.m.67 Жыл бұрын
"Here in Tennessee, nobody cares!" That one cracked me up. Amen!
@mcycleserv Жыл бұрын
you ain't krap Scotty ..I got an E46 and everything started breaking down after 175000K and when I say everything I mean just about everything ..first was 5L40GM auto when reverse failed then power steering pump, alternator bearings Instrument cluster fried ,all coolant parts replaced, oil leaks from the usual parts and on and on ..the latest... car now at 244000K O/P light on at idle so cause of sump gasket leak replaced B/E bearings ,power steering leak so replaced all seals and bearings and now motor uses Mobil1 ultra 5W50 motor all perfect but won't go into the missfire problems
@piididii Жыл бұрын
I have watched Scotty for a while now. You can give a hundred reasons to keep coming back to this kooky car guy. His videos remind me of when I was working in an auto shop with my equally kooky father. Good times. Ring that bell!
@HenryHalamadrid Жыл бұрын
I used to own one of those , of course was a second hand one and I didn’t like it. The majority of mechanics doesn’t want to work on them so I was forced to take it to the BMW dealership for repairs and cost me a fortune. Now I do own a Toyota Matrix XRS and the change is huge I’m saving a lot of money and headache.
@flam7469 Жыл бұрын
fixing at the dealership??
@Kendell_Bidwell Жыл бұрын
When Scotty said you'll have the ultimate repair bill when you run out of oil because the engine doesn't have a dip stick I couldn't help but laugh out loud!
@sirwellingtonthethird687 Жыл бұрын
It may not have a dip stick which sucks. But it’ll alert you when the oil level is low.
@lifenthefastlane Жыл бұрын
All you have to do is look in the idrive or instrument cluster it shows the oil level. It’s not rocket science nor is it 100% accurate but it is better than nothing. I agree though they need a dipstick but all car are doing away with them
@FELIPE8226M Жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 545i with that same N62 V8 engine yes they are known for bad valve stem seals and gaskets going bad but man I sure love the way it drives
@rob5944 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK people are nuts about BMW'S and Audi's. They are everywhere, mostly new ones too. That begs the question, where are all the old ones gone? Up north maybe, maybe not. Either way I took Scotty's advice and got myself a Lexus as my toy. So far, so good.
@PointNemo9 Жыл бұрын
I see 2005-2010 era BMW's quite regularly in the UK
@rob5944 Жыл бұрын
@@PointNemo9 sure, they're around. But not as many as I'd imagine compared to new ones.
@PointNemo9 Жыл бұрын
@rob5944 In my part of the country I see more older one's than new ones
@rob5944 Жыл бұрын
@@PointNemo9 I see, this may explain our differing views, what country do you live in?
@PointNemo9 Жыл бұрын
@rob5944 In the UK too, but probably a less wealthy area than you. The only new cars I regularly see are from cheaper brands like Hyundai, Peugeot, Mazda
@kize32 Жыл бұрын
There's a way of checking the oil level on the screen under tachometer. It's done by pressing verious buttons in a correct order. It's a hassle but it's possible
@igotaction Жыл бұрын
Scotty, it does not have 8 knock sensors, it uses crank/cam sensor to calculate knock.
@wagner9050 Жыл бұрын
How is camera lens cleaned?
@garypeatling7927 Жыл бұрын
So it's total guesswork then
@ridbanner1407 Жыл бұрын
I had a bmw 520i.1989. It would bing and bong tunes about 4 or 5 random things that weren’t working every startup. When the both headlamps failed at 80 mph near midnight not a sound !
@starboard9551 Жыл бұрын
"A short amount of time"? That one's been running for 17 years and you seem to be enjoying it just fine there Scotty 🙂 As long as the engine still runs good I don't care about all the extra electronic accessories. My only problem right now is that I have to spend $70 for a wheel lock key set if I want to be able to take off a tire to change my brakes and rotors. Also my insurance quadrupled, but my new motto is if you're gonna be poor you might as well enjoy it 😁
@bl8896 Жыл бұрын
But you can't check the oil level, so what do u do, just pour in some until it feels right?
@starboard9551 Жыл бұрын
@@bl8896 You can check the oil through the computer, so as long as you put the right amount in when you changed it you're good. Just fill up the oil with the amount listed in the manual just like all other cars and it's no different with a BMW. You can also measure what's in the pan to see how much came out, it should be about the same amount of oil as what's listed in the manual.
@v.s.727 Жыл бұрын
The E60 and E63 are certainly in the top 3 of the most unreliable BMWs, and Scotty also got a very bad example. But by far not all BMWs are like this. Eventhough at this time BMW and also other manufacturers have used biodegradable wires, so it's no wonder that all the electronics don't work.
@starboard9551 Жыл бұрын
@@v.s.727 Yeah it seems like BMW had a lot of issues in the mid 2000's and with some models up to around 2013 so I'd be careful buying anything from before 2014. In 2016 they came out with two new engines the B48 and B58, which have so far been relatively bulletproof. I just got a 2017 model with a B48 and I have nothing to complain about getting 30 miles per gallon with the full twin turbo experience.
@valentine--vincent4590 Жыл бұрын
Yes. He’s got a fairly neglected example here for his video. Go figure. Lol
@barrydraper Жыл бұрын
BMW, Audi and a few others, are the main reason the LEASING industry is so popular. Three years and then it's off the warranty & someone else's problem.
@mkmbombela672 Жыл бұрын
Watching your videos is so fun, I get to learn a thing or two and I also get a laugh every once in a while from the stuff you say or do. The jokes, the laughing, the random sounds and the pictures that keep popping up in the corner, it's awesome 😂😂😂. I want to buy a second hand BMW(around 2008-2015 models) and this opened my eyes a little more about what to look for before I do, thank you very much.
@MrCrossface007 Жыл бұрын
He is 100% correct. When I had my Honda Civic back in the day it was normal to slow down in corners. With the BMW Its mandatory to speed up!
@JohnDoweMah Жыл бұрын
Gotta give props on this 650 in particular considering it’s got a 6-speed.
@timewa851 Жыл бұрын
@Sandy Zar I can only assume if you're buying a steering wheel for a SC, it's got 800k+ miles on it, or it was crashed.
@drdeni Жыл бұрын
It depends on who and how he drove it, and how he maintained it I drive a BMW e90 and the car is just amazing, fun to drive, full of power and I maintained on time. Oil change on every 10000 miles and regulary maintain the other parts not wait to disaster to happen.
@OS-hx4jk Жыл бұрын
On a visit to South Africa, I learnt that, locally, they say BMW stands for Black Man's Wish!
@Mo1683 Жыл бұрын
To live vicariously through European White Men?
@importsstillsuck Жыл бұрын
Heh
@petera5560 Жыл бұрын
For some reason, poorer people want to drive a BMW, so they can pretend they are rich and cool. The ghetto mind is widespread
@importsstillsuck Жыл бұрын
@@petera5560 what do you mean "for some reason"?
@psynurse Жыл бұрын
Had 2008 335i bought with 11k miles and nothing but issues. In shop monthly. Decided to drive West Cross country and had to plot my journey with BMW dealers close to the highway.... And yes half way cross country had check engine light in Colorado in mountains..... To California and back and only needed one new injector, new hid headlight, new air pressure sensor and some trim that tore away around windows after frozen.... I could go on and on.... Got rid of it before warranty expired only 8 months later and for almost half the price I paid. Piece o crap
@dazmac159 Жыл бұрын
Poor people buy used luxury cars to elevate their social status, pouring money into repairs, keeping them poor. The circle of life!🤙🏄♂️⛵
@Hiphopbuzztv Жыл бұрын
Skotty I bought a 2012 Toyota crown majesta because of you over a bmw 530i you made me a happy guy cause I havnt been to the mechanic last time I serviced the car
@lanehogger1532 Жыл бұрын
I’ve bought a 3 yr old 5 series bmw. Not broke yet 😅
@djl_cyber_yt Жыл бұрын
“ Yet “
@thomas7770 Жыл бұрын
Give it time.
@supercharged2414 Жыл бұрын
Think they might have sold it right when the warranty ends? How long have you owned it? Couple months? How long you plan on keeping it?
@lanehogger1532 Жыл бұрын
@@supercharged2414 your right about the warranty. It only had 17k miles on it. I’ve had it 3 weeks and plan on keeping it 5 years and 150k miles. It drives great, I will keep you informed 🙏🏼
@Coodeville Жыл бұрын
A friend last night told me about the ball bearings in his 740il. He said they use plastic for that too
@chrisvig123 Жыл бұрын
The BMW 7 series always comes up as one of the least reliable in the world 😮
@realshaolinprince Жыл бұрын
Do the turn signals work on that one?
@faradaysage15 Жыл бұрын
I have a 328ix with almost 220k miles on it. Only put in sparkpacks as maintenance, and rear wheel bearings. Tie rod 2 years ago. Had to replace 1 cat'converter because of a weak aftermarket sparkpack I didnt notice (led to dumping fuel. was normal at idle so I couldnt feel it). Rideflat tires are the only negative for me pricewise ($650/2) but I would have lost several days of work if they werent (on 3rd set of tires now in 6 years/since 60k miles when I bought it). Had air AMS intake mod done, rich MAP sensor and CPU reprogramming as well as a bypass of the drive by wire crap (and WOW what a difference it makes, launches from a stop now!). Oil filter right on top so I change it every week and put in a little Mobil 1 synthetic or AMSOIL. of course you have still talked me into getting Alexis or Toyota next but I have a whole summer to drive my Jaguar convertible before I do that :)
@SHVLAegis Жыл бұрын
I had a very similar car to this one up until a few months ago, a 2005 645 ci. That thing was the most fun vehicle to drive that I've ever owned but even with the low mileage for its age (65,000 miles when I bought it spring of 2022) it ended up being a complete nightmare to maintain and I ended up just getting rid of it before it completely devoured my wallet to feed it maintenance costs.
@AChermeanb Жыл бұрын
How much did you get it for? And what were the costs ? I’ve been looking at that exact model
@jmorris023 Жыл бұрын
About 8 years ago, I had a cherry 2004 E46 Coupe. It was a beautiful blue with 60K miles. Got it for like $6K, thought it would be a great car. Wrong. While it never left me stranded, it's a CEL machine. You couldn't go more than 1,000 miles without a CEL light. Kept it for about a 1.5 years, repairs were easily $200 a month.
@jag4790 Жыл бұрын
2 words: Money Pit.
@xcmskim4 Жыл бұрын
Correction: Endless Money Pit
@andyblanchard6060 Жыл бұрын
Scotty that seat pad is a safety item and is elgible for a free recall replacement. and the 2006 DO have a dipstick. its at the back of the the engine cover to the right, i can see it in the video. with that said, they do break regularly, and its stupid expensive to fix. they are weekend cars, not daily drivers. i got a lexus GX to DD, the BMW 550i is a garage queen. The lexus dealer is the biggest problem i have with toyoa. whole staff of 19 year old kids who make my car worse every time they touch it. its almost like they want it to break so they can sell me a new one.
@supercharged2414 Жыл бұрын
Thank you , Thank you Scotty. Once in awhile I see or read about a good looking BMW and think that they can't be that bad and now this video will scream in my mind NO WAY. I really like the BMW I8 Hybrid that only has a 3 cylinder motor, is fast, and gets good gas mileage all packed into a sports car body. There is a bunch for sale but not cheap yet. Wonder how many owners get rid of them after the warranty expires and they get their first $5000 repair bill. It seems like every repair on a BMW is $5000 and up.
@driver4011 Жыл бұрын
b m w - broke my wallet broken motor wagon bring more wrenches
@1bosstv Жыл бұрын
@@driver4011 bought my wife, bring mechanics wit'cha, brings me worries, breaks my wallet, brutal money waster. I didn't even want to bother with my GF's E38 (750 iL). Lotsa nice tech for 2000, but when 1 thing got fixed, 2 more things broke.
@aaronrodriguez1410 Жыл бұрын
Another false notion. B58 and S58 are great engines. Look at some forums
@supercharged2414 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronrodriguez1410 BMW did make some great engines. It is their electronics and technology that controls everything that fails.
@aaronrodriguez1410 Жыл бұрын
@@supercharged2414 that's very true.
@tomsherwood4650 Жыл бұрын
Like a Swiss watch. Every couple years you are expected to send them in for service, ideally. That is 2-400$ base cost plus parts or anything else needs done above basic service. So the initial price is high and high to maintain after that.
@jorgemoro5476 Жыл бұрын
Try $800 for refurbishing my Tag Calibre 16
@AncientEvilSaiyan Жыл бұрын
i have 3 s85 v10 engines and only had to the rods and a few actuators. keep the car warm before driving and always do oil changes around 4k miles
@ZZMann33 Жыл бұрын
We’ve had BMW’s “Bring My Wallet” 😂 that’s a new one to me. The leather holds up and always a problem. Good stuff
@richardfredenburg5619 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately i bought my wife a 2019 BMW X3 M40i great car fun to drive but i found condensation in one of the headlights your only option is to replace the entire thing which is over 3500$ which doesn't include installation.
@purechaos3498 Жыл бұрын
Well since you are in that car , you should be listening to the song “KLI- Milly “ 🥵❌
@lewis72 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I got lucky but I've owned my 2003 manual 530i for 12 years now, having put 116k miles on it. It's now on 200k miles. Still in fantastic condition and has cost me very little to fix. i had a few biggish bills in my first few years of ownership (brake lines, steering rack, variable inlet throttle tract) but the last 8-10 years or so have been drama free.
@Royce1982 Жыл бұрын
I agree on the plastic stuff. Nice car to drive but that's it lol.
@blueheelerfriend8450 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about the latest and greatest Beamers but I know that the older ones say 2010 back are great cars... especially the ones with the straight sixes.. I own a 08 twin turbo 335i and it's been a great car... it has a 130,000 miles on it and runs like new...☺
@timothykeith1367 Жыл бұрын
I think the newest BMWs might have sorted out many of the problems of the turbo fours.
@espinoza1920 Жыл бұрын
You’re so funny 🤣 I love your videos
@HoaTran-ki2qg Жыл бұрын
M3 2004 is good, but I stick to 330ci ZHP’s with lesser performance but overall reliability and better mileage per gallon of 92 octane, consider rising of fuel cost.
@Chris-nr5iu Жыл бұрын
Not all beamer's are bad. Most people don't take the time to understand the brand. Every car manufacture makes bad vehicles. The key with BMW is to buy the ones actually made in Germany. And never miss any maintenance. They will treat you well and put a smile on your face every time you drive it.
@Chris-nr5iu Жыл бұрын
@Race car I think it's pretty rare for most cars to do that isn't it?
@jalee6587 Жыл бұрын
Most all bmw are made in Germany. Mercedes Audi all made in Germany. Where else are they made in , mexico?
@Chris-nr5iu Жыл бұрын
@@jalee6587 In North America alot of them are assembled in the USA. They do not have the same quality control as the ones made in Germany. People in Europe do not complain about BMW nearly as much as people in North America do.
@yg78t76t7 Жыл бұрын
@Race car I had a 2006 BMW 525i with 235,000 miles before it got flooded out by a storm in NY. Everything on it worked.
@apollosungod2819 Жыл бұрын
Big Money Wasters Bring My Wallet Love it, Scotty you are the man! I recal a relative bringing his very very nice 80s 735i beauty to the BMW dealer where they told him (this was mid 90s so he was the second owner as the original owner stopped driving the car and it was sitting in the garage for a couple of years) that ALL of the Fuel Injectors needed to be replaced... because that relative did well at his nice job... he actually paid the money which... yeah you could have purchased a nice used car for that money... hint a little over 2k or almost there because they got him to also repair other stuff they found faulty... I wagered that if there was better research back then he could have gotten an injector cleaner solution and just purchased the repair manual and did most of the work himself with only stuff that is a last resort to be taken to the dealer technician.
@TTime685 Жыл бұрын
The endless BMW acronyms 😂
@DanielE-dk1ws Жыл бұрын
Bring my Wreaker
@PlymouthNeon Жыл бұрын
Because My Wife
@TTime685 Жыл бұрын
Basic Maintenance Wormhole
@xYoungDeezYx Жыл бұрын
As an owner of 3 previous BMW's (an E90, E92 and now an E93) - I can tell you the engines and transmissions are actually very well built. There's a reason Toyota uses a BMW engine in their new Supra. Unfortunately it's everything else that you'll have to worry about as the car ages, because BMW is notorious for using cheap plastics and rubber which don't fare well with heat and time. You can blame the EU which forced German car makers to use recyclable materials throughout their cars.
@timgraysontv Жыл бұрын
You can fix this car for about 2 grand and you will have an amazing driving and great looking car!
@richarddrozd1201 Жыл бұрын
Agree, I drive an ‘06 525i for 17 years. Love it; will try to squeeze another 5 years out of it before buying a “new” inferior car.
@zorro456 Жыл бұрын
Learned my lesson with the first Mercedes Benz I owned. A Starter cost how much $$$$$$? Stick with American made or a Toyota or Honda.
@yoshimitsu1896 Жыл бұрын
BMW: Buy More Warranty
@tinoamato2898 Жыл бұрын
I had a lease 2007 750li . Electronics break down with in the year. Nice car but a money pit if you owned it. Lol I hated the eye drive bottom.
@mackjsm7105 Жыл бұрын
17 year old car.. and scotty said its broken.
@SoloArdo Жыл бұрын
U saw all the errors right?
@anthonyk Жыл бұрын
Scotty there is an oil dipstick, it's in the back behind the beauty cover, BMW N62 V8s have them there not red there black and it sometimes hard to locate them
@louisianag Жыл бұрын
Damn Scotty I'm broke
@mannygon Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed my 2008, 6 speed, V-8 M3 purchased brand new (below MSRP and 0.9% BMW finance) during the 2008 market crash until 2020. Sweet, powerful, refined vehicle. At the end (with aprox 42K miles) started giving me "little" problems ($500 here, $600 there, $900 later on). Those bills were at my independent BMW mechanic (for comparable BMW dealer repairs multiply by 4. No kidding. (Eg. ABS control unit replacement - $900.00 at independent mechanic with salvage unit vs $4,500 at dealer )🤑. One day (at 42K miles) I noticed the fuel gauge wouldn't go all the way to FULL on a full tank. "Simple issue", I thought (no such thing in a BMW). Dealer estimate : $1,500 to replace the entire fuel tank (parts) plus $4,500 (labor) to take down the entire rear of the vehicle for the install. That was the turning point. Traded it in (as is) for a spanking new, 2020 6 speed 5.0 Ford Mustang GT Premium with Performance Package Level 2 (5K under MSRP and 1.6% Finance). I am happy but miss the BMW.
@SoCalRobots Жыл бұрын
The Mustang will go 100K miles without any problems
@durango8882 Жыл бұрын
Big Money Wasted😂
@bbalderston125 Жыл бұрын
This is a very accurate commentary. BMWs are best sold at the end of the included service period/warranty. I had a new X5 get swapped out after 3 weeks because of unidentifiable short circuiting whenever it rained, a 535GT where the massive sunroof liner fell off the tracks on a hot day and BMW wanted $4k to fix it (at 5 years old!), multiple electrical and component failures start at the 5-6 year mark and yes Scotty is right, the repair costs are outrageous. BMW is an ego stroker. But in reality the quality is a serious issue and just a mass production car with a lot of time and money consuming problems. But trade/sell at the end of the service/warranty period and you'll be happy in the initial years of ownership.