People worship JAYNE?! | Firefly Season 1 Episode 7 "Jaynestown" Reaction!

[@emme]

Not the redemption arc I was expecting but certainly still an interesting episode!

[@miguelvelez7221]

There's a lot of "gray" in the 'verse as they might say in the world of the show. Jayne is an underhanded bastard... But he still has human depths.

[@przemekkozlowski7835]

@@miguelvelez7221 Jayne's best quality is that he does not lie about who he is. He is a mercenary and approaches life from a mercenary perspective. Later episodes will hint at his reasons for becoming who he is. It confuses him when people think less or more of him. The lie of "Jayne the Hero" is too much for him and the idea of someone dying because of that lie makes him furious.

[@larrystuder6378]

This the beginning for Jayne. He has been the dumb muscle mercenary, and the comic relief. Here we see the first stirring of deeper thought in his character. It's gonna take a while.

[@Mr.Ekshin]

Wait... that's NOT the guy from Lilo and Stitch? Looks just like him.

[@dunringill1747]

🎶"Our love for him now, ain't hard to explain. The hero of Canton. The man they call Jayne!"🎶

[@isaackellogg3493]

15:13 What he’s doing is >daring to touch< the weapon of the hero. When he offers it to The Great Jayne, he is worried that Jayne will strike him down for being unworthy to touch it, but to be the one who retrieves it and gives it back to Jayne is a great honor, and which if he lives, will grant him eternal bragging rights with his bros, and maybe a little action from his crush.

[@dennytaylor1005]

Another wonderful Firefly reaction. "The Hero of Canton" is a song that tends to pop into my head every once in a while ... its so ruttin' catchy.

[@charlesmartinjr3971]

"Every man who got a statue made of 'im was one kinda sumbitch or another." One of the many nuggets of wisdom in this show.

[@yungathart7801]

So many things to like in this episode. Inara's reaction when she realizes her client is talking about Jayne, River trying to "fix" the Bible, also her reaction to Book's hair, the back and forth between Kaylee and Simon, and final;y the conversation between Mal and Jayne at the end. This show is never what you expect, but it always delivers something interesting and entertaining.

[@creativeuserneim]

I've always found River's reaction to Book's natural hair weird and kinda...racist?🫤 never really been a fan of that gag. But y'know Joss things

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

@@creativeuserneim there's an awful lot of racism in the world, but it doesn't help anyone to see it where there's no real evidence to support that. he looked rather different than usual, and river and zoey were both surprised. book being black is not enough to call that racism.

[@creativeuserneim]

@@sirmoonslosthismind the evidence is that there was nothing scary about Book's natural afro.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

@@creativeuserneim you can't apply a "reasonable person" standard to river because she's objectively not a reasonable person. she freaked out at the soup cans, but was pretty unbothered about niska's guys shooting at her. as simon says, "i have no idea what will set her off."

[@alexthorpe6583]

Always a fun reaction, when it's the most unlikely person on the show who became a folk hero. Wash: 'We gotta go to the crappy town where's I'm the hero!'

[@ernesthakey3396]

Jayne doesn't understand altruism, self-sacrifice. But at least he's thinking about it. There's hope for him. Jayne's redemption arc may have begun, or at least become possible. He feels some empathy for the kid that died, and is trying to puzzle out why anyone would do that...

[@Ernwaldo]

Hello, fellow Ern! Totally agree with your statements. Always fun to watch when reactors begin to really think about Jayne and a third dimension to his character starts forming. 🤔

[@ernesthakey3396]

@@Ernwaldo hey Ern! Yep, Jayne is a little more complex than he appears. Not, like, a lot, but a little...

[@Ernwaldo]

@@ernesthakey3396 🤣

[@maddwitch]

Even before then, when Jayne started questioning whether they should be taking advantage of the mudders idolizing him, was a step in the right direction.

[@becca1189]

I think Jayne understands the concept of altruism, he just doesn't believe that it actually exists. Like he said, "There ain't people like that. There's just people like me." He's not entirely wrong. Just because an action seems altruistic on the surface doesn't mean that the person/people in question don't have selfish motivations. Jayne is cynical & jaded. Having spent so much time running with criminals who ARE always looking for the advantage, it's not surprising. From his point of view, it's survival. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@dunringill1747]

Shepherd Book's hair looked like a popular hair style among scientists. This episode is about belief and how people with different beliefs can clash. Jayne ends up struggling inside as he cannot believe how anyone would willingly give up their life for him. It is a good character growth for him. Even the side character Fess Higgins gets some character growth as he smugly reminds his father that making a man out of him must have worked. Great comedic acting from Morena Baccarin as Inara's belief of "Mal the do-gooder" is shattered when Fess tells her it was Jayne. One of her lines wasn't even words, just a stumbling noise of confusion.

[@joshuawells835]

This is my favorite episode of Firefly, particularly because of River and Book's interactions both on faith/"fixing the Bible" and Book's Einstein hairstyle when it's untied. It's also a very funny how much of a folk hero Jayne unintentionally became.

[@noodle_fc]

14:17 they added a gun-cocking sound when he points the weapon despite that it's _very very obviously_ a pump-action shotgun being held one-handed. Like we can see with our own eyes that the pump action is not moving. Just... wow. They cannot help themselves.

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

Oh, let's not get into the sound design of the 'future guns', or we'll soon be citing every shot fired in every episode. It's just a conceit of the show, like space guns making noise in just about any other sci-fi property.

[@dwightlee4315]

This is the beginning of ( in my opinion ) the really good episodes

[@Caseytify]

This we see the beginning of Jayne's arc. That young man's act of self-sacrifice opened up something in Jayne.

[@jimclayson]

Jayne makes everything better and more interesting just by being himself. You don't have to like the guy to love the guy.

[@Cobinja]

Our love for him ain't hard to explain.

[@pieceofgosa]

This is random but you asked "is that true ?" so here we go: yes they drank a form of beer in ancient Egypt but Simon's statement is inaccurate as slaves didn't build the pyramids. There is a mountain of archaeological evidence that the workers that built the pyramids were well-paid professionals. They've found several cities where the workers lived during the construction that suggests they had a pretty good standard of living. They've even found richly decorated tombs belonging to architects & foreman that worked on the projects.

[@Poosley]

Emme I'm so stoked you're watching this. In for a treat. This show definitely surprised me. Takes some time but it's a slow burn and you gotta LET, THEM, COOK!

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

🎶🎵 He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne Our Jayne saw the mudders' backs breakin' He saw the mudders' lament And he saw the magistrate takin' Every dollar and leavin' five cents So he said “you can't do that to my people” He said “you can't crush them under your heel” So Jayne strapped on his hat And in five seconds flat Stole everythin' Boss Higgins had to steal He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne Now here is what separates heroes From common folk like you and I The man they call Jayne He turned 'round his plane And let that money hit sky He dropped it onto our houses He dropped it into our yards The man they called Jayne He stole away our pain And headed out for the stars He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne. 🎵🎶

[@JohnWelsh-oz3jz]

“When the legend becomes fact, print the legend”. - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence (1962)

[@keithbeardslee4435]

Jayne is literally (figuratively) an attack dog. He is naturally aggressive and needs an alfa (Mal) to keep him in line. He pushes the boundaries within the pack, and sometimes needs to be put in check. He is also very tough and willing to put himself in danger to protect the people he considers part of his pack (even though he doesn't recognize Simon and River part of the pack yet). If you imagine him as a big slobbery dog that was bought specifically to bite, you have Jayne.

[@garricksmalley1733]

Mal is a good wingman Throwing a riot in Jayne’s honor is one of the best things you could do for him.

[@usctrojans001]

Jayne is the Ultimate Wild Card as far as Trust and I like that Variable. He does have some redeemable qualities so Not All Bad.

[@RealDrunkenMaster]

Great reaction as always. There are some later episodes that explain Jayne's backstory and why he is how he is.

[@robertnichol3669]

yeah Simon remark about Egypt slave being feed in a heavy wheat beer, most historians tend to agree with it ....think they found a bunch of huge fermentation vats in some ruins with the recipes on them....its basically a really yeasty bread dough dropped in a vat of water...sealed and allowed to brew..heard some of the archaeologist did the recipe and came out to a beer of about 4 or so percent alcohol to volume.

[@robertjordan7807]

Emme! i woke up sick and instantly felt better when i saw another Firefly reaction. Thanks for your videos!

[@emme]

Feel better!!

[@hint1k]

1:45 I am not from US or UK, but I am pretty sure it is a reference to Jamestown - the first UK permanent settlment in North America.

[@emme]

HAHA that would make SO MUCH MORE SENSE

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

The reference I believe you may be making could be “Jonestown”. A very disturbed clut-religion Jim Jones, convinced several hundred Americans to follow him to Guyana, in South America and set up a “community”. In Nov’1978, when an investigation from the US Congress went there to check on the citizens -several in the delegation were shot, by Jones’s cult. Jones, knowing he could be arrested, convinced his hundreds of followers to “drink Kool Aid” that was filled with drugs. Men, Women, Children died in a few hours. When the investigation team arrived, about 900 were dead, in that community in the jungle. (I was 9 years old, my parents explained the news to me) Oddly, in the same 24 hour time, here in the US, “the Star Wars ‘Holiday Special’ was broadcast. One time. Check it out in YT. I didn’t realize until years later the bizarre connection of time events.

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

Also, famous for their Kool-Aid recipe.

[@Caseytify]

@@jean-paulaudette9246 James town, not Jones town.

[@Caseytify]

... Or it might just be a reference to Jayne's name...

[@isaackellogg3493]

4:12 “What happened to Simon? Who is this…diabolical master of disguise?”

[@dalesharp9953]

I enjoyed the reaction. This is a fun episode with a somber ending. It is sad that the show was cancelled midseason. It didn't give the show time to develop character arcs on all of the characters.

[@michaelrunnels7660]

There are a number of small things that show a hidden side to Jayne such as in the first episode when Kaylee was in the infirmary because she was shot. Jayne was shown watching Kaylee while Simon was treating her while he was hiding. He cares about Kaylee but doesn't want anyone to know. In a future episode there is another clue that is in the backround but shows why he wants money so much. Pay attention to Jayne when he is reading a letter from his mother, even though the camera isn't on him. You'd never know it, but Jayne is a mama's boy. Watch what he does with something she made just for him.

[@Caseytify]

It's very cunning.

[@michaelhoward142]

Maybe we shouldn't talk about future episodes until she's seen them herself. 🤔🙄

[@paul1780]

Happy you've come around to Fire Fly. Jayne is the typical grunt who is shady but, in difficult times you can count on. Probably, because he has very few people in his life and he knows this, and has to occasionally play ball; even if it makes him uncomfortable. Comment for the algorithm.

[@davidbergfors6820]

5:51 Part from the fact that the people building the Pyramids weren't slaves, pretty accurate.

[@jonathanross149]

This is a big episode. Like you said anything can happen, but you would never guess this.

[@isaackellogg3493]

4:36 Desire to know more intensifies!

[@Gort-Marvin0Martian]

Great reaction. Jayne is more complex than just a thief searching for money. You are about to watch my favorite episode. That would eight. They're all great but number 8 does it for me. Y'all be safe.

[@steveg5933]

I'm very impressed you knew of the Jonestown massacre. That occured when your parents were kids! I was in high-school and remember it well.

[@emme]

I have a special interest in cults LOL

[@fakecubed]

Everybody's got a backstory.

[@ronfehr7899]

Simon swore when he saw the statue of Jayne. I would think it was appropriate in that case.

[@eschiedler]

A true Browncoat can sing the song by heart, "The Man they call Jayyyyyyyne!!!" In all seriousness, Jayne's ability to create conflicts adds a lot of plot-lines to the show plus balances out the lika-bility of the other charateres. There'd be little to no tension on the Serenity otherwise and Captain Mal would seem way too harsh and bitter in comparison.

[@KT-iy9vc]

Jayne is a great character because he's not "evil" and his crudeness, selfishness, and general inappropriate behavior apparently isn't because he feels life wronged him. It's just how he is. He thinks life is every man for himself, and civilized norms don't make sense to him. He seems very realistic to me. He doesn't really even think he's acting badly.

[@Ernwaldo]

Hello, Emme. Really great reaction. Interesting & unexpected episode, huh? Thank you for sharing your reaction & thoughts.

[@Kaz-Oz]

from the thumbnail, i thought this might be a Con Air reaction at first haha

[@raphaelperry8159]

She said things were going "well".

[@KrokoZBR]

What i got about River reaction when Book untie his hairs it's that he became look like Albert Einstein (but black) who was a scientist

[@adamwells9352]

I love that Jayne is most touched by them rioting for him. Fight the Power, Jayne! That's why he knocked the statue over too. As far as I'm concerned, it's not just his growing self-awareness that redeems him; it's his distrust of authority. ...He is still a jerk, though.

[@Nyhde]

I'm so excited for the next two episodes! Out of Gas and Ariel are easily my favourites.

[@Otokichi786]

"Jaynestown": Mal are looking for a ready-to-smuggle cargo, so Simon has to pose as a well-to-do "clay buyer." When the crew get to Canton's town square, they are shocked to see...a Jayne Cobb statue! The crew head to the Cantina to hook up with the local man, and discover that there's a song about Jayne. River and Shepherd Book spar over The Bible...and Book's hair. Inara's client is the boss Higgin's son, who "isn't a man."

[@raphaelperry8159]

Jones' Town massacre? We all thought it was a Jamestown reference.

[@isaackellogg3493]

Fun fact: _Lilo and Stitch_ first premiered on June 21, 2002, while “Jaynestown” was first broadcast on October 18, 2002. And yes, they don’t look much alike.

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

Stitch Hessian is a sort of play on words. Hessians were an (ethnic? National?) Group of European mercenaries, as well as a specific type of woven cloth made popular by them.

[@boqndimitrov8693]

jane - accidental hero! 😂

[@dallesamllhals9161]

5.51 OH MY! +1

[@spamfilter32]

Simon's comment about the Egyptian slaves who built the pyramid being paid in beer is partially true. It is true that they were paid in beer, but it is false that they were slaves. The men and women who built the pyramids of Egypt were free men and woman, not slaves. There was a whole city devoted to housing and feeding the workers who built the pyramids and the beer and bread ovens were set up assembly line style to feed the massive numbers of workers. The beer that was made was very thick and packed with calories and vitamins, so, it was like a self-contained meal.

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

In a few episodes, Jayne will get a hat. Firefly fans wear this hat. Funko made a few action-figures for this series, including “the Man they call Jayne” in his unique hat.

[@elroysez8333]

Had there been more seasons, Jayne would have been a favorite for many I bet. Kind of like Amos on "The Expanse."

[@klemminguk]

Our Jayne who art in space, hallowed be thy name. thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Mudtown as it is in space. Give us today our daily mud. And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from mud. For thine is the mud, the power and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.

[@emme]

AHHH!!!

[@becca1189]

Jayne's 1st speech isn't half bad considering the source. I'm sure the crew was expecting something truly horrific coming out of his mouth. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@kentbarnes1955]

Jayne - the man-ape gone wrong...thing.

[@Freshfruitt]

who up not worshiping jayne

[@emme]

MEEEE

[@pieceofgosa]

I always thought "trained ape" was a weird choice by Simon, especially as he is a doctor because well, Jayne IS an ape & so is Simon :D Our species, homo sapiens, is a member of the superfamily, Hominoidea, commonly known as apes.

[@doug3691]

Symbols.

[@ItsMe-cz1pi]

😂🔥🇨🇦

[@phtevenj]

Also that Stitch joke was so BAD.... lol... but its the first one so i forgive you 🤣🤣

[@isaackellogg3493]

Mal’s and Kaylee’s relationship looks a lot like father and daughter, and at this point in the show it has not yet been made clear whether or not they are in fact related. Simon was scared that Mal would think he was taking advantage of both Kaylee and him.

[@walkir2662]

6:00 "is that true?" ...well. They didn't use slaves, for starters. (Sure, can't rule out there being some around, but not as the main workforce). AFAIK they got paid in beer, yes, but delivering bad stuff to a pharao's construction site sounds unhealthy to the supplier.

[@myTERAexperience]

I got arrested... by your beauty. 🥰🤗😳🙈

[@jordanbridges]

@9:20 until they eat their babies... not so cute

[@phtevenj]

AKTUALLY, its been found that almost no slaves were used to build the pyramids

[@carlanderson7618]

While I don't reject that theory out of hand it does have some holes IMHO The theory is based on the location and care shown to bodies as they were prepared for burial. Builders were buried in tombs close to the pyramids, a place of honor, and furnished with supplies for the afterlife. While a good theory it is also equally likely that to help keep the tens of thousands of workers /slaves compliant and less rebellious is the promise that they would be cared for in the afterlife. Another thing is that the workers or slaves seemed to have had a shorter lifespan than others of that time period.

[@flerbus]

@@carlanderson7618 the meek and lowly being cared for in the afterlife same tricks still work millenia later

[@kevinjohnson613]

Actually, that's been debunked. There workers who were not slaves, but that doesn't mean there were no slaves. You can have more than one thing be true at w time.

[@pleutron]

you're the typical young woke reactor and generally speaking, not surprising in your assessments of each episode and character. But it has been interesting watching you progress through this show.

[@spamfilter32]

define woke.

[@Handletakenlol]

The thing about Jayne is he doesn't like people either.

[@Handletakenlol]

Except kayle