Lousy Landscaping

[@cheddartheshibainu3287]

NIGEL!!!!!!! This was my Urban Garden Design instructor!!! Amazing landscaper. We drew landscape designs for our final project similar to the ones he was showing. This man knows what he’s doing 100% and as a certified horticulturist in NYC people really don’t know how much time goes into doing these designs, materials and measurements. So interesting to see him on here hahahaha what a small world. Not sure if he’s right in the case but can’t judge this one case off of his amazing 30 something career. I learned a lot from him.

[@sobreezymimi7622]

I believe that the plaintiff is a Schmuck. God bless Nigel

[@samantham8696]

I second that the plaintiff is a schmuck!

[@JayseGreene]

He appears to be a very knowledgeable person. I did like the designs.

[@Classyslimes]

And this was probably him or a family member of his typing this message lmfao 😂

[@cheddartheshibainu3287]

⁠lol no it was what I said it was. I was his student in his class a while back. No need to make up stories lol

[@mrshappilymarried1]

"I have a habit of interrupting people when I'm done listening..." Me too Judge Milian!!😂🤣😅I love me some Judge Milian!!

[@anthill927]

I say she does it all the time and I’m glad she finally admitted it or realizes that she does do it, which actually is a little worse? Because you know you’re being rude simply because you can’t be checked on it? Lol

[@NellieKAdaba]

I'm the same.

[@nameundefinedname5307]

@@anthill927 she literally said shes trying to work on it lol

[@markbloom9457]

@@anthill927 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwp0

[@kittyb275]

Which is alarming that a judge doesn't listen.

[@richardpodnar5039]

One of the few cases in recent memory where all the participants express themselves clearly, concisely and courteously.

[@leetakamiya2162]

I know. How did n the world does that happen? Coincidence? Sunspots? Mayan apocalypse?

[@richardpodnar5039]

All of the above@@leetakamiya2162 !

[@JosieF3G]

I concur! Controlled and cohesive communication within the courtroom. Most refreshing! 👍

[@granitemoss1451]

No trash in sight!

[@NellieKAdaba]

I agree.

[@naigepippens1622]

The Plaintiff reminds you of every teacher you ever despised and the Defendant reminds you of every teacher you ever adored.

[@yung1717]

No

[@JayseGreene]

Well said!!!

[@abigail1023]

I love it when litigants say, "Yes, I have all the evidence of the very thing I'm suing about. What? No, not WITH me. It's at home." 😄 Do they think the judge is an idiot?

[@princessrockman9528]

I almost feel like he wants all the plans and he's going to try to do it cheaper or do it himself. Just my feeling by his pressure for measurements, dimensions, etc.

[@goblueinga]

Of course, he can. He paid for the plans. COMPLETE plans. He never agreed to sign a contract for the work because he did not get the complete plan.

[@ChristineDuval-cy5ck]

I agree too

[@laniinlove9171]

I love how both these guys, tho battling it out in court....they are concerned and doing their part to stop global deforestation. Thank you for caring.

[@jf5338]

Same. Very surprised and pleased.

[@lescobrandon9693]

Fake wokeism. If they cared they would use wood grown locally. Both Ipa and Mahogany come from the rain forest.

[@fjccommish]

Huh?

[@BryRod]

Wow! Nigel’s voice alone would have made me rule in his favor. 😍

[@veronica5235]

60K is actually reasonable. You're paying for a professional designer, his design team, demo, materials, labor and project management and clean up. The wood alone is very very expensive especially ipe wood and ipe decks are extremely expensive. This guy got a deal here.

[@osomartinez]

just $60K? sounds a bit ghetto for my taste and at my last property i might have spent at least $180K for my backyard and lacrosse field lol

[@goymedhundDogtrainingBehavior]

i do NOT agree in this case.. he should NOT have had to return any money....

[@Jonahch2v9]

It comes down to the wording. He said he didn't get the final plan until four months later. That's actually on him, because he's the one who kept changing it. Had he approved the original, they would have been off and running. The longer the client can't make a decision, the further down the priority list he goes.

[@Jonahch2v9]

Your backyard is the size of a Volkswagen, what would you like there? "I'd like a pagoda, a gazebo, a running creek, birdbaths, etc., etc. etc."

[@rondajackson2871]

😂🤣😂

[@dgaines6781]

I think part of the issue is that people see those home improvement shows and think the process is short and easy. NOT.

[@MarieJulie211]

Well Nigel did almost zero.

[@trueimage5264]

I've seen that guy in the pink shirt n wig in a past episode on the other side. Lol with the same funny look!

[@andrewbillingsley9377]

he looks funny

[@prairierider7569]

Looks like a chick, now I will have to keep my eyes opened for him..lol

[@andrewbillingsley9377]

@@prairierider7569 He may call himself a chick but every cell in his body has a Y chromosome, That's a dude.

[@heathernks8]

Same!

[@maryoleary5044]

Well Done for caring for the Planet Gentlemen. 💖🌍🌎🌏

[@augustmoon9973]

I don't know about you but I would absolutely hire Nigel to hook up my backyard, I'm sure it would have been amazing! If I ever get $60K, I'm calling Nigel! 😁

[@davidt5200]

This guy I hired a landscaper got the blueprints and then fired him. Basically he has the paperwork now he can do the job himself stole this man's idea/ plan

[@bossladee1973]

He didn't get a blueprint because it has no dimensions, construction materials or exact placement. All he got was a drawing.

[@maryconstapel8592]

But that likely why he wants the plans with measurements, so he can use this guys design and not pay for the work

[@thelittleredtina]

I LOVE Judge Milian’s glasses 😍

[@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083]

Hated the plaintiff but I want his glasses

[@Rachel0911]

I like the way the defendant speaks. 😊 I can listen to him read the encyclopedia

[@AP-uo7sp]

$60,000 for that tiny backyard💀

[@katiemilady4232]

The backyards aren't really tiny. They are skinny but long. My family still has our brownstone in Park Slope Brooklyn which is my childhood home. We had a barbeque/picnic area and swimming pool growing up. For a $3m home, spending $60k in that area brings your home value up by about $300k. It's ridic!

[@uMADden]

A P is what you call below middle class

[@elvickRULES]

That’s why a designer works. They’re good at working in limited space (good ones anyway).

[@jcymngo]

Yes. This is expensive work. Design, materials, work. You're basically paying an architect of gardening.

[@oldageisdumb]

@@katiemilady4232 Sorry, that’s a small yard. Maybe not for Brooklyn but compared to pretty everywhere else in the US it’s small

[@TheSingingGardener]

People taking advantage of artists and getting away with it. The plaintiff clearly just wanted to get a plan for free and was never going to hire the defendant for $60k… he’s now going to take the designs the defendant came up with and try to find someone cheaper to do the work.

[@traceyaz125]

Well, he did pay $3,500 for them.

[@thackett7165]

Dammit if he wants the killer rainforest wood - GIVE IT TO HIM! He is the customer!

[@tatihinds4939]

The funny thing is both woods are

[@Zoot_of_Anthrax]

The guy at 12:00 when Harvey is asking questions in the back right. OOOoofff.... did he buy that toupee at walmart?

[@PrettyGirl-zl7th]

Probably the same place Trump buys his 🤣

[@arthurcholmes9388]

Yeahh... He like Shaggy Rodger's

[@drewmckinney2208]

I literally saw this comment at the exact moment he came on camera and lost it.

[@Zoot_of_Anthrax]

@@drewmckinney2208 - you're welcome :D

[@manthony777]

@@Zoot_of_Anthrax , Walmart doesn't sell toupes.

[@lescobrandon9693]

There’s something totally missing in this case. Landscape design especially in NY is the same as for a building meaning that you need final design with measurements to get a permit and city approval before construction. The defendant said time wasn’t an issue until tenant moved but that’s not the case. They needed the plans approved before they could do anything.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

"this is the plaintiff ... Chuck Court..." perfect.

[@NellieKAdaba]

Yes, ol

[@DonziGT230]

The plaintiff was worried about mahogany not being a sustainable wood and he wanted IPE?!? My understanding is that IPE is one of the worst in that regard.

[@mickm6309]

Did the plaintiff get a new design made by the new landscaper or did he use the defendants design?

[@melissabillings6561]

The Plaintiff has all of the designs and drawings so the Defendant should get some kind of fee for hours and hours of work.

[@lescobrandon9693]

Without measurements design is worthless. Think of a house with no measurements.

[@LWWM]

Of course Nigel is British. Lol

[@NellieKAdaba]

Yes, most Nigels are, I've never met or seen a Nigel who wasn't British.

[@MarieJulie211]

Pretentious snob.. I got your rainforest right here..

[@NubianP6]

Sooo, JM doesn’t understand the concept of “sustainability” as it relates to wood, etc. The defendant explaining why he chooses not to use epay wood was not him bloviating about his views on climate change, it was explaining that using epay strictly goes against the basics of sustainability, because it displaces people, and destroys rainforests, which affects us all. It also goes against what the client was requesting, since he himself wanted to use sustainable wood. Epay being “hard as rocks” is actually what draws a lot of people to it, because it will last, and last. Sometimes JM is just rude for no reason.

[@hateisforlosers6116]

Yes and it is very distasteful. The fact that she says she stop listening, mam,how fair is that to the people that stand before you. I stopped watching her,it's not right.

[@shannoncarlson6960]

Just looking at the beforehand concrete. I can't believe people ever filled their backyard with concrete! I get that not everyone likes nature but I couldn't imagine staring at that. If you can afford a brownstone you can afford a gardener so it was literally someone's choice to put in concrete. Oh dear 🙄

[@michaelshields7777]

Ok, so this is the first time I have ever stopped watching an episode after the first 4 minutes, all because Judge Milian was acting so rude to the defendant! She was shouting and raising her voice and was being downright demanding of him and I had had enough at that point. So unprofessional!!!!

[@princessrockman9528]

Waaaaa ya big crybaby. She's not rude she's to the point. She's not there to be Oprah and listen to their life story and their feelings. She wants simple answers and these two could clearly go on forever and honestly what they had to say WASNT THAT INTERESTING! You want drama or no "rudeness" go watch judge Mathis where it's more jerry springer than court. Maybe judges get tired of ridiculous lawsuits by a sue happy society and then crybabies who think she's rude for cutting it short. Although she'd prob laugh at you TBH

[@hateisforlosers6116]

Yep, that's her,I stopped watching her ,it's distasteful as a judge. It's funny for those that say she isnt,well find that shoe on the other foot ,then let's see what you say. You can be to the point and polite. People don't need to be disrespectful with their opinions by calling people cry babies. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, respect that.

[@TheOtakunreview]

Defendant missed an obvious defence, “couldn’t get into the backyard to do the measurement due to the tenants. They were supposed to leave in July, we would have started the fence and then got the final measurements.”

[@kia4334]

He’s well spoken but not in this court judge will chew you up but he did well 😆

[@3ch1dna07]

Did anyone else see the man in the background at the end with the bad toupee? I loved it!

[@r1verman]

I just hope the guy on the street in the pink shirt sees himself on camera and realizes that wig looks ridiculous.😂

[@8thhousealchemist600]

Plantiff can go to hell for helping to destroy the Rainforest

[@Карова-ц8ц]

60K for backyard... wow 🤩

[@darlenec2812]

Again poor judgement. Of course she is power hungry

[@riannadominguez396]

It’s most certainly the damn toupee for me😏

[@andrewanderson-np7wz]

I like Judge Milian but think she totally got this case wrong. They weren't to the point yet of having a draft design with absolutely everything on it. The defendant had to have the fence measurements first to do anything and was waiting on that. The defendant did nothing wrong and shouldn't of had to pay the plaintiff anything. The plaintiff jumped the gun and fired the designer to early to have a final design. He fired him because of wood type because plaintiff is an idiot.

[@34stzoo]

15:55 you dont win cases because you were mistreated as a contractor. Life doesn’t work that way! I believe that to be a fair judgement. The plaintiff can take the designs he has and add the unknown measurement. Its not that hard to use a tape measure.

[@sadesg8855]

The Defendant....When I Tell You That Man Has An ASMR Voice!!! 😴

[@34stzoo]

As far as the wood material is concerned, i would’ve demanded composite wood!

[@bassdmin7436]

How do you justify spending $60,000 for that little back yard?? I cannot comprehend it.

[@dcavfactory]

That dude in the back has the worst Tupee EVER!! (in the interview with outside crowd scenes, far right). Had to be a joke

[@AudioDynamixs]

I have dealt with picky undecisive customers like the plaintiff. I run fast, keep your money and your headache

[@brookevalentineuniversity]

I dont not agree with her decision. The plaintiff knew what was about to happen. Dont agree he should not hsbe3 gotten NOTHING. IM SURE HE STILL USED TJAT DRAWING FOR A CHEAPER PRICE

[@melwesley7578]

No one will ever please this plaintiff

[@crystalshaw8744]

The Plaintiff trying to find designs on his phone like Spirograph.

[@NachoTimelord]

Morally opposed to sourcing certain wood because it "contributes to climate change" but will use mahogany even though it's sourced through PLANTATIONS in the Philippines... 😑

[@lisaparrey1343]

Its the clients yard, and he is paying, its not up to him to tell him what his fence should be made out of.

[@raisinsymone7653]

A plantation is a farm. Unless you're saying the people on the plantations aren't being paid a fair wage.

[@prairierider7569]

Exactly, all these eco freaks, if they were really worried about climate change (which has happened for 4.2 billion years),they would focus on cleaning our oceans, as every second breath we take comes from Fido plankton

[@luckyluke33]

60 K ?!?!!?! WTF LMAO

[@t4705mb6]

"I'm really a very rude train conductor."

[@bossladee1973]

I think it's a fair judgement. The plaintiff didn't get a blueprint because it had no dimensions, construction materials or exact placement of everything. All he got was a drawing which was not worth $4500.. Plus the defendant admitted that it was not complete.

[@34stzoo]

yeah, landscaping is cheap. I installed an irrigation system. And the parts alone cost a grip without labor. I can’t imagine that cost.

[@arianefr78]

At 9:15 the judge admits she doesn't know about wood and the environmental impact on the planet, THEN she should educate herself and come back less ignorant. She is so rude (loud and obnoxious) even though she is obviously talking to two educated men, she still can't be anything but crass. Obviously the plan (an ariel view) is to scale, so all the measurement ARE there, so he did ALL the work they agreed on, for $4500, where in the contract did it say that he had to provide all the individual measurements, the judge is ridiculous and should never have made the defendant give back anything, the plaintiff is the one that breached the contract a month before the commencement date...

[@hateisforlosers6116]

Agreed, I will not watch her anymore. I've seen her do this a lot ,it's distasteful and unfair to the people that stand before her.

[@crystalshaw8744]

I love the word subsequently. And yes I know what it means.

[@Olyanna537]

Unless the contract specifically said the deliverable included a detailed plan with measurements to be provided to the homeowner, I find this to be an unreasonable assumption. The homeowner is clearly trying to get the plans and then other do it themselves or hire cheap labor

[@mmk07135]

This sounds like a case out of Eagleton Indiana.

[@alphonserollins5308]

Judge Millan has ruled in favor of the plaintiff. The defendant is order to pay $1,000 and his counterclaim has been denied.

[@cookieeemonster1689]

Why is she irritated like wth its like she doesn't actually listen

[@arianefr78]

WHAT? 60k for that tiny pocket handkerchief of cement to be done up, I was expecting it to be acres and acres of woodland. Some people really have too much money! The only reason for the existence of a contract is when there is a dispute and it goes to court, so obviously you must provide the ORIGINALS, who in their right mind leaves the most important piece of evidence at home?...

[@Wendypretty1]

Dang, the people in the back are yawning up a storm. I think he was entitled to at least a 2,000 refund. She seemed particularly snappy during this case.

[@alphonserollins5308]

The plaintiff is happy that he got his money back.

[@atlantic2233]

When the audience guy on the right yawned I did too!! At 12:11 - did anyone else??

[@iamthomasgreenman]

Plaintiff didn’t sue because of lack of detail on the designs. It was all about the wood argument for both of them.

[@jcymngo]

Why was she being so curt with the Irish guy?

[@supportvawa2213]

Yeah, Adrian says that she only treats black litigants this way 🤔

[@crystal.holmes]

Judge is so unpolished compared to these two men. She just keeps being obnoxious and loud.

[@kittyb275]

Shes Cuban. We would call her chusma.

[@princessrockman9528]

@Crystal Holmes - unpolished? Mm-k sweetie maybe you need to understand this is COURT not Oprah. She doesn't need a 20 min answer to a 2 min question. She doesn't need a long winded reply to a simple yes or no question. She wants the shortest most accurate answer. It's not "unpolished" it's running a courtroom. Have you ever been in a REAL courtroom? She gives these people much more latitude than they ever get in "official" procedings. Just like the speaking out they won't warn you like she does. They'll cite you for contempt. If they want to tell a big long story there's Dr Phil. I think it's hilarious that you call her unpolished. I think she'd take that as a compliment. Watch Judge Judy a case or two and you'll see way more than "unpolished" you'll see RAW😂 Let your delicate sensibilities take that in 😂😂😂

[@heathernks8]

@@princessrockman9528 No they won't "cite you for contempt" without a warning for speaking out of turn in a real courtroom/"official" proceedings! "Mm-k sweetie?". I can see by your abundant use of emojis that you're quite tickled with your response, but that isn't how real court works, so just stop it, "Princess".

[@Classyslimes]

People should not wear sunglasses in a court room! So disrespectful

[@Mark_Demaline]

I could have built the fence myself by now.

[@AlessandroCalzaStudio]

The plaintiff totally used the designs to built the whole shebang with a company that charged him less. Scammer

[@mandysmayhem5517]

I respect the defendant

[@tatihinds4939]

So he has a problem with one wood but yet trying to use mahogany which is an endangered species.🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@lisaparrey1343]

the time line of producing what he did and still not complete was ridiculous. I would have sacked him before the first drawings. 4 months is ridiculous.

[@frankgiuliano380]

Client looked like a typical NY miserable guy..ripping off people.

[@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083]

I don't trust the plaintiff. I think Nigel should amend his contract to say that the measurements and list of plants will be part of the second contract for the finished work. There is nothing to stop the plaintiff from using Nigel's design and hiring handyman to do the work.

[@francevenezia]

That voice of Harvey Levine in the intro is not professional. It sounds exaggerated and almost creepy.

[@andrewbillingsley9377]

Harvey Levin Is CREEPY

[@The2Coolest2]

It's not Harvey smh. It's Curt, the guy who was in the hall before Doug returned.

[@hardipusa]

he sounds drunk

[@albertorozco5981]

17 hrs to draw a fence at 59 dollars an hour 😳 he makes a living at just providing half drawings and never any actual work.

[@pjteves1]

Again she has no clue!! Maybe this is why she’s a TV judge.

[@oldageisdumb]

Technically, she has way more experience as a real world judge than a TV judge.

[@JayseGreene]

Was this case at 5 am or something? Several ppl in the audience were yawning.

[@PerfectaRhyme]

Bunch of Pride painting landscapes! 😆

[@jcboy7050]

Harvey, sometimes, spews shiz when he interviews people. Thats a bad point. What the ef is he talkong about. You did a job good, get paid for everything. you did a bad job, get paid partially unless you did more damage than the work. The ef.

[@sliceofyourlyfe5794]

The defendant sounds like a BBC spokeman

[@SeanH702]

Lady in blue behind the plaintiff looks sad

[@mehhh8888]

I could never imagine complaining about being paid "only" $60 whatever per hour. Jesus fucking Christ most people are lucky to get $10 per hour even with college degrees.

[@mnelson2008]

originals at HOME? Bro, seriously?

[@sonyad924]

Milian is so RUDE and condescending!

[@WVnurseJo]

Why does almost every man with the name Nigel have that accent? The man from The Wild Thornberrys lol. Anyways I felt like the Defendant should get some money back from drawing out the plans, because in detail that takes a lot of hours

[@janequartuccio6372]

Because Nigel is British name.

[@pinkosmondfan]

"Climate change." LOLOL 😂

[@sdays59]

Is this a new thing... starting your sentences with, “So...”?

[@JoJo-hg7tg]

Better then 'um' , 'uh' or 'like'

[@NellieKAdaba]

@@JoJo-hg7tg Exactly

[@irenestrmnss4331]

He s british , so I trust him more

[@loveyoutube2177]

I feel like he should have given half back. He was holding back the drawings because he just wanted the big job and I think just wanted the money and not to do the work

[@sscumbabyy7717]

OF COURSE HIS NAME IS NIGEL 🤣

[@hellboy6661234]

Bruh... nigile? You need a landscaper named miguel

[@hellboy6661234]

This landscaper is actually an awesome dood.

[@KyoyaSuoh]

American Severus Snape?!?

[@hateisforlosers6116]

Ok JM if you know its rude, then give the same respect as you would like to have!!

[@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n]

so much yawning in the audience

[@lokita6192002]

Gentrifying Brooklyn

[@venuscacaobean7574]

What’s going on with all the fake grass😂😂

[@SLHYouTube81]

Low maintenance, no water, no weeds, doesn't die.

[@nighttrain_nealy]

How dare homeboy in the pink wear that crappy of a wig on national TV