Showing No Green

[@kitkune]

Damnit harvey!! The intro was “grass is greener but not on my side”

[@thatsassyrepublican]

He can never get anything right lol.

[@jaysteph3167]

The judge had a slow moment. The guy didn’t wanna pay until he saw the grass grow in and that’s not how that works

[@globalphenomena6979]

Yes that is you pay half now and half later

[@Ash-83]

No you pay a deposit up front and the balance due at the completion of the work, not almost a year later after your grass has grown in, or you've had time to sabotage the end result because "I'll pay you when I'm satisfied." Try that logic at a restaurant, it isn't going to fly, you don't get to eat the meal and then say oh well I'm not satisfied with it so I'm not paying you.

[@JayJay-me8zk]

I agree with you on one part. The plaintiff's statement that he would "pay when he was fully satisfied" was not a part of their agreement (no warranty was mentioned). However, I don't think JM had a slow moment. I think she made the nasty ruling possible given the circumstances. Allowing the plaintiff to get the $1K would not be fair, since he didn't do the work. He could have completed the job and then sued the defendant for nonpayment. The defendant could not win his claim against the plaintiff for additional work that he had not even paid the plaintiff to do. Countersuit made even less sense than the plaintiff's claim.

[@whitechris720]

They were both idiots. They came to a settlement in their emails. Then neither side fulfilled their side of the agreement. So it was a wash from the beginning!

[@mrs.jessicarocha1241]

ooooh thanks for the late night upload! 🙌❤

[@nataliagalecka3614]

It's a morning upload 😉

[@heathergreen2344]

Pine tree needles are acidic I know nothing about lawns but nothing ever grows under pines lol

[@LeolaGlamour]

Um 😐 says who?! Because we had to cut the grass all the time and we had pine trees everywhere.

[@kerrylynnparsons9441]

Grass DOES grow under pines. My yard is proof of that.

[@RedPanda79]

Depends on soil too, nothing grows under mine

[@KrazyVideoChick]

12:32 "Why would someone neglect his own lawn.." Because homewoners everywhere all have stellar lawns.. lol

[@kh4961]

Plaintiff should have gotten some money for the work his team did, though he did a few things incorrectly-- mainly setting improbable expectations. You NEVER guarantee a lush/full lawn after one seeding application. That takes years to achieve, unless you're going to lay sod (even then, it's not 100% foolproof). He should have proposed a few lime applications to raise the soil pH (counteract the acidity), provided a plan of care with watering/fert schedules, & actually hydroseeded, IN ADDITION to aerating/overseeding. Source: I did similar work for about 7 years in that area of the US.

[@LetztezBatallion]

He got part of the money. Rewatch the episode, it's clearly stated that they got 2300 and the remaining 1000 was withheld for when they finished the work. They never finished the work for that 1000, so the plaintiff does not get the 1000 he is asking for. But he gets to keep the 2300 for the work he already did.

[@kh4961]

@@LetztezBatallion Oh nice that's a fair judgment then. Thanks for clearing that up for me

[@sandyjamison5929]

I redid a similar large yard with the exception of using hydroseed. Once the soil acidity was tended, it came in nice & lush. I'm surprised the plaintiff hadn't done that when he began the job.

[@nkosikadzi6273]

I need rehab because am addicted to these😩

[@morganbecker5384]

same

[@missmud2053]

😂 I have a problem too

[@SavicksterTheTrixter]

I can see how the plaintiff thought the defendant would never be satisfied. He did some stuff- he should have gotten half.

[@BobBlumenfeld]

I think he did wind up with $2,300 or so, just not that last $1,000.

[@SavicksterTheTrixter]

@@BobBlumenfeld It's a show typo. In other shows, it would indicate Milan gave the defendant $1,000 from the plaintiff.

[@BobBlumenfeld]

@@SavicksterTheTrixter At 11:10, the judge says, "That's what he says he [the plaintiff] will do for the BALANCE of $1,000." And at 11:27, "He wants to get paid the thousand dollars. [To the plaintiff]: I don't know what planet you'd get paid the thousand dollars when you didn't wind up doing the REMAINDER of the work." And at 8:44, "And oh, by the way, let me just backtrack, you [the plaintiff] had suggested why don't you WITHHOLD 400 dollars and I'll do that in the Spring, and you [the defendant] suggested, I'm gonna WITHHOLD a thousand and you'll do it in the Spring." The plaintiff had already received part of the bill, but had no claim to the $1,000 he was suing for.

[@RedPanda79]

Shade seed is iffy. For 4 years it has only worked a little. I just accept the yard as is and happy to have shady spots on hot summer days

[@Spac3_Gh05t]

I don’t understand how a LANDSCAPER from MA doesn’t know that grass won’t grow under a pine needles tree, if you park your car under one you will understand what I’m saying.

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Hi! Thanks for posting!

[@TopherGrant]

I moved to the mountains and am surrounded by pines. I never thought about it but there is never grass anywhere near them. Acidic soil makes sense actually.

[@lynn1505]

I live in MA. Nothing grows under pines. I think both these guys are dishonest.

[@The_Real_Mier]

Of course you don’t wait until everything is growing and blooming and the grass is green the NEXT SEASON!!!! You pay when he is done. And if it doesn’t grow the next year, you go back to the gardener. Just like other things that stop working over time. The defendant could have done all sorts of things that caused the bad result. But everyone has to pay immediately after the work is finished. (IF all the work is done that’s stated in the contract) And here is a thing that I see a lot in these Court Shows: If you don’t think that whatever the customer wants to have done is possible (or will work out): then DON’T do it. Don’t come to Court later saying that you told the customer that, BUT that the customer insisted on it, so you did it anyway. Have the guts to say: “No. I will not do/sell this.”

[@LiveGrowRescue]

The new landscapers aren't going to be paid either.

[@Mocharocks9966]

I knew exactly what they said staaaahhhhtaahh lol we have the best accent in my opinion.

[@steelwheels327]

Acidic, shady soil makes it tough and nothing will grow there

[@larryblankenship8180]

First thing they should have done was get a soil sample from where the grass won't grow

[@SString215]

Watching this in 2022 and seeing the guy with the two popped collars behind the plaintiff and remembering when it was a thing to pop as many collars as possible. 😂

[@Dizums]

It seems the plaintiff only explained the lack of fertilization and how pine tree needles makes growth impossible in court, but to never to the defendant. He's meant to be paid for results, not an flimsy attempt. It was only when the defendant demanded results, the landscaper gave up. So many tradies just fake it till they get that final payment. Always pay after you see the final top quality product.

[@dianeallen5803]

The defendant was the most pleasant I've ever seen on People's Court.

[@madmemadhouseme4885]

Handsome too.

[@jasonmccann8023]

Fresh off of work.. Thanks for late upload.

[@chrstphrmtthw16]

Stadah ( starter ) lol love my Massachusetts peeps ❤️

[@thatsassyrepublican]

I'll give this one to Harvey, finally a good question to ask the peanut gallery outside!! Lmao

[@kittyfan]

H**l will freeze with all those pine trees......that lawn will NEVER grow.. (MY mum's friend's hubby spent decades trying to grow grass under the pine trees at theri cottage......it never worked. The pine needles make the soil too acid and there's too much shade.)

[@Leosmommy19]

13:07 the guy to Harvey's right with the white shirt is totally a Seth MacFarlane look alike!!

[@thatsassyrepublican]

I like the plaintiff's personality :)

[@payableondeath9091]

💯vivacious

[@jayb1854]

People do neglect their lawns I used to mow over two acre lawns in s.c and people used to let it get knee high or sun burnt during dry season. Mayb they should get actual experts during cases like these

[@missmud2053]

I’m with the judge on this one good ruling 👌

[@donaldhall2037]

Yes Pine trees produce shade, ALL Year because they are Evergreen...BUT Pine trees are very acidic, and is almost impossible to get any type of grass to grow where Pine Trees *Shade*/Shed needles, producing Acidic acid on the ground about 50 to 90% of the time. I feel the Landscaper shouldn't have taken on this job knowing that or explained in GREAT Detail, that it's a losing battle to have green grass near and especially under pine trees.

[@christopherramon-reid2000]

His goatee rocks 😎👍

[@catherinesisk4369]

I had pine trees around a house I use own and those things kill every thing around them.

[@MrFancyjohnson1]

Omg you are right! The grass is always dead under pine trees! I was today years old when I learned that pine tree kill grass

[@jb3702]

Gotta love the East coast accent 😆 The plaintiff looks like one of those guys from Jackass!

[@africanviolet2469]

Steve-O is the name of the guy from jackass Or it could be Johnny Knoxville you are thinking of

[@jb3702]

@@africanviolet2469 Steve O!

[@hayleygolding4187]

Looks like Steve-O definitely

[@arianefr78]

Grass will NEVER grow in an area under pine trees, so the defendant would NEVER have been satisfied, so the plaintiff got off lightly...

[@LeolaGlamour]

I’ve never seen that.

[@thatsassyrepublican]

"STA-RAH" I'm sooo dead!!!!

[@arianefr78]

The defendant and his smug smile the whole time is irritating. He knew he was never going to pay up, because unless the defendant was going to do his part, it could take weeks before the grass starts to grow and then you need to care for it and it might be another year before it starts to look like a lawn which could take a year, at which point the defendant would have said 'see, it still isn't growing' and still never pay him...

[@charkitahood2532]

Defendant wasn’t going to pay the landscapers until he saw grass not only growing but full. That’s not appropriate and I can see why after the communication with him- the landscaper believed he would never be paid and therefore left.

[@russellclement2058]

No one uses grass seed in Australia ,,People lay turf,,

[@34stzoo]

Once again I don’t understand her ruling? I agree with the plaintiff for working off the job. When the defendant said he wasn’t paying until he’s totally satisfied, thats like saying no matter what he’s not paying. Instead of saying until the job is completed he said, until I’m totally satisfied. At the end of the day when you look for imperfection, you will always find something. Which would’ve gave the defendant an out!

[@k0chana6]

Nah, I wouldn't pay either , at least until seeing a result I'm happy with , or at least progress that could be worked toward

[@gene5148]

This guy had no intention of paying, regardless, he would have find an excuse not to pay.

[@lynn1505]

Plaintiff should have told the defendant right from the get go that grass will not grow right under pines.

[@frankgiuliano380]

THIS DEFENDANT is the type of guy that is never satisfied, so he doesn't have to pay.. run from this type of guy.

[@lucegene5223]

After waiting months, and a broke down machine, I wouldn't pay until satisfied either.

[@adrianprince7266]

People can't even finish what they're saying after a question. I'd just tell her look, either don't ask the question or after asking answer it as well and I'll stay quiet. Fucking ridiculous

[@XanderBeckett1]

Milian needs a muzzle most of the time

[@missalpha_essence3926]

But after hearing thousands of cases there becomes a pattern of behavior. However there are the one offs so patience is a virtue.

[@alohamarzia]

after a while you know you dont need to hear more after a certain point. She hears what she needs to get her answer and isn't going to waste her time listen to them keep rambling lol if she never interrupted anyone then the cases would take 3x longer

[@mirandatree]

Most of the questions she asks should be answered with just a few words, not a paragraph.

[@jennybarstow1447]

You haven't watched Judge Judy much if you think she interrupts and she is way kinder and patient!

[@shastac1396]

That’s one wide-eyed plaintiff 👀

[@KrazeeClark]

He may not have fertilized his lawn, but he is full of bullish*t! 😆👍

[@stephaniehowe0973]

Sorry March 6th is too soon. The ground is still cold. That is true about pine trees.

[@jacobsladder6715]

Defendant tried to get paid double.. he also was trying to use the old sucker move where you just keep doing more work over what your suppose to do and he keeps on not being satisfied that was his game plan.

[@PHOENIX1699]

Partially true. He also had a vision in mind and the landscaper was like "oh sure I got you, no problem" and got in over his head. Sometime grass just won't grow, flowers just wrong cone in. You have to work with someone that is very experienced and can tell you honestly what will and won't happen on your particular plot of land. Bottom line, never over promise - especially when your talking over $500 or so

[@jacobsladder6715]

@@PHOENIX1699 you have a good point. I could be wrong but I believe the guys land won't ever be the way he wants it to be too many pine needles making the ground just toxic and unable for grass to grow the way it really should. No one knows if the owner really does all the things he says he does it takes a while for the brown patches in the photo to become almost dirt I just don't think the grass will yield the way he wants it too as well. We all know as well not much sun comes through with pine trees.

[@wallacesteelersws]

You got it perfectly. Normally, people who don’t work for themselves don’t really get this point. The man is never going to be satisfied,ever. Walk off, beat his ass or sue! He’s not going to be satisfied. Being self employed you have to try to read people ahead of time so you don’t end up in this situation.

[@diamony123]

Why do I always think the outside comments is always been held at a car wash stall.

[@nunya8010]

The judge made up a scenario that they say didn't happen and that's what she based her ruling on,bs!

[@clipfarmer2005]

thats my dad lmaooo i swear

[@wallacesteelersws]

I hope area landscapers see this and leave this man alone!

[@globe2555]

You can NEVER trust a person when money is involved.

[@runningawayvagabond5876]

Interesting case. They both have good arguments. Defendant deserved to get what he paid for and plaintiff deserved to get paid. In the end I think the plaintiff should be glad this is over and he can wash his hands of this defendant. Won't pay until he's totally satisfied? Sounds good on paper but; Not paying yet, grass isn't thick enough or green enough, I'm going to hold final payment. Wait, I got a grub or mole infestation and the lawn is all dead and spotty. Come fix it or I won't be totally satisfied. Unusually hot dry summer and grass is dead? Come fix it or I won't be totally satisfied. Lather, rinse, repeat. I get the vibe that this defendant never had any intention to pay that final $1000.- and was going to make the plaintiff jump through hoops expecting to finally get that money,

[@CoopyKat]

Plaintiff wore a wrinkled/oversized shirt in court. I'm curious WHY he would do that!!

[@travis8665]

It was new and being a landscaper never had any decent clothes. I noticed that too. It was a bad image. He is used to work clothes only.

[@assetprotection5389]

Ok this landscaper took a guess at it, what he should of did was get the soil tested and it would of told him what it’s missing to grow grass and boom he would of had his lush grass never guess because this happens all the time

[@markyboughter1087]

I thought Harvey levin is wearing green shirt For saint Patrick’s Day just like talking about the TMZ

[@Wolfnap313]

So he did all that work and bent over backwards to help him and didn’t paid for any of it. Wow. Their contract doesn’t state you pay me when your certified, it says I’ll do this and you pay me. Period. You don’t have a tooth removed and then tell the dentist I’m not satisfied because there’s a hole in my gums so I’m not paying you. You pay for work done, I think the judge was wrong which happens very little but still happens.

[@elaine5446]

The plaintiff didnt honor the terms of the contract. He shouldn't have guaranteed that grass would grow, only that he would plant and treat. Re the defendant, Re the defendant 'I'm not going to pay until I'm satisfied' really doesn't really mean anything

[@kerrylynnparsons9441]

Plenty of lawns grow beautifully without fertilizing!!! Not rocket science.

[@cathylittleton7361]

This is why u get referrals before doing a job

[@k0chana6]

The plaintiff should've stuck with the pine needle-acidity story , he might have won

[@kyoto32001]

plaintiff should have been paid for the work he did. defendant said he was not going to pay, plaintiff had every right to quit.

[@jasminemorales5964]

Yeah I definitely feel like the customer was never going to be satisfied enough to pay simply bc his yard is apparently not an easy place to grow grass if he’s STILL trying.

[@geraldwenn9698]

Get the dozer in and dig it out

[@J3llyBean423]

SRB im telling them ,..."im not their dog"/ their are loseing a leg with this dog

[@samoday2992]

The only real way to get grass to grow is when you use turf . Seeding is hit and miss

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

Underneath pine tree this might not even work due to the acidity.

[@samoday2992]

@@jamsaidemelo1367 you are right but the turf will be good for a couple of years as its grown somewhere else . He has to keep laying down lime as well to neutralize the ph

[@krystalroller2915]

I think that was a wrong verdict. He did all that work and got minimal payment. When he went back to do the 3 things once again to try to get the grass to grow, the guy Def wasn't going to pay him, he wasn't ever going to be satisfied. I think the plaintiff is probably correct. The pine needles made it hard for grass to grow. It likely takes something special to make it grow, because some dirt and areas are different than others. He has probably never had grass.

[@somebodywatchin]

Stotter fertilizer. 😀

[@masterbates7016]

I think the defendant didn't fertilize because he didn't realize how important it was

[@ElsaFriost]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@TwilightGurl564]

all he had to do was put lime on it u can never use to much lime

[@sylviabenson6523]

Astro turf.

[@wallacesteelersws]

So the plaintiff can’t read?!?

[@jimowens2008]

Judge is smoking hot!

[@JTKels]

Another poor decision.. judge bases decision on her emotions

[@David-wo9un]

I like the older episodes with the way the narration introduces the case; the drama that is injected by the current guy is annoying. Why would he neglect his lawn? Probably because he is lazy which is why he hired someone to do it for him in the beginning.

[@Degorff]

Lime

[@NORTAH85]

The defendant seems like a guy that once he pays for something he thinks it should stay perfect without any effort on his part. It was obviously an issue before. I believe he didn’t go above and beyond for that part of his lawn and thought doing the minimal that he does everywhere else would suffice.

[@x0keekz]

The judge’s attitude is ridiculous in 99% of these episodes. It’s sad cuz I really used to like her a lot. Hope she’s not like this at home but I have a feeling she is lol.

[@mlily1111]

I get what you're saying but sometimes the litigants are dumb as heck! She can't let them take her down a rabbit hole of unnecessary facts. Some lie bad too, but I've also wondered if she's like that at home. Her husband seems so passive and nice.

[@lauraw.8110]

Just the fact that you feel the need to mention how she is at home says that enough about you.

[@gilbertdaroy6080]

The defendant says he is not neglecting his lawn BUT, according to the plaintiff, he's not applying fertilizers.

[@Passion85031]

The plaintiff is a 🤥 periodt 🙄

[@Missegyptlatesha]

I think the defendant is a scam artist. How many times does the landscaper need to show up just to make his measly 1k🤦🏾‍♀️ i have a feeling the defendant will be in court again because he's unreasonable.

[@garyhynes8098]

25 years ago I had a customer contract with me for landscape work worth 4800$ when we finished he said I had a great crew , worked hard and did a fantastic job , he wanted to refer me to his friends , when he cut me a check he made it out for 700$ which didn't even cover the cost of his supplies ,I asked for the 4100$ he owed me he says no we haggled I said no we have a contract n this doesn't cover labor n supplies you need to come up w 4100_ he says no sometimes you get burned I'm like say that again I work hard for my money yr not burning me we argue so pissed off I go to my truck pour some gas into a bottle go back ask for my money he says yr getting burned I said this is america I work hard for my money let me teach you about burning people I threw the gas on his legs and lit him on fire ,🙄we settled in court I owed him he owed me bet he never does that again

[@Babybop83]

👀

[@travis8665]

Did you take any photos of him on fire?

[@rachellovesyaa]

mveee

[@ditto6330]

I think this Man would of found excuse after excuse not to pay for his yard the (remainder) that was owed? I actually believe that is Why it was never finished. I would of left too

[@J3llyBean423]

SRB no i did nt / the hostage netotaer , and give me declaravtive diriction ,... not mind control k/ me wife can sort of mind cotorl me ,.. t a dreege / that was never a n option

[@enniruth]

🤖 DUZ // NAAAAHT ..[0] COMPUTE 🦿

[@arianefr78]

The judge got it wrong about it being $1000 to each, when in fact the defendant had two estimates, one for $370 to sow the seed and another for $630 to fertilize the ground, whereas the defendant had refused to do any fertilizing so that means that should never have been taken into consideration, therefore the defendant should have had to pay the plaintiff $630...

[@Lilyrose23]

The ruling is easy, the plaintiff enacted a new contract stating that he would come back to do the job that the defendant wanted then get the $1000, which means he agreed to a settlement, but he broke it by just suing and not doing the work. Usually, the plaintiff would win if his argument was that the defendant refused to pay until the grass is green. However, he never did the work that would make the grass green because his machine wasn't working.

[@AlisonCasilli]

I think that he DID neglect his lawn. When it was brought up he tried to say he had an irrigation system.....ok that is the first clue that a person doesn't understand how grass/plants grow. You don't just turn the water on and think that is going to fix it. In a large yard there could be multiple zones that require differing water requirements, types of fertilizer, etc. A blanket fix is never the right answer. Spent time, not money, on your yard and you will be far better off.

[@robertschaaf7192]

note to self never work for joe

[@sandwichman100]

'joe' is a customer who not only wants a job done 110% perfect he wants it yesterday!

[@sandwichman100]

growing grass under pine trees is very difficult because not only are they very thirsty trees their needles are acidic

[@FireDragonAnime]

SECOND :D

[@kyoto32001]

FIRST!!!!!!!!!

[@sarabpreetkaur3360]

🏅 congrats

[@stephenbanks5952]

3rd

[@sharonjohnson8512]

Seems to me that someone who refuses to use his last name on court tv is not being honest or expects to be humiliated.