Copping Out On A Camper

The plaintiff says the defendant stored her beat-up RV on her property and never paid for it. Even though the defendant claims she gave the plaintiff’s employee cash to cover the costs, the plaintiff thinks she’s lying, so she’s suing for the outstanding amount. The defendants say this is a misunderstanding and claim they have a check to prove they paid the storage bill.
Case: 25-033

[@ViraIshnia]

I've never understood why people are rude to judges. This person decides your legal fate! It would be in your best interest to be as polite as possible

[@cynthiaahern9081]

Entitled know it alls...

[@KaiCluster]

I can tell you out of my own experience in this regards. A very good lawyer (known to win cases where they are defending criminals), that my cousin got to sue me for my fathers inheritance, created a fake image of me at the start of the hearing and made my cousin look like an an angel. Why? Because it's the easiest way to manipulate a judge's decision (due to how confirmation bias works). As the case progressed, no matter how much proof we got, the judge simply didn't want to understand nor did she pay much attention to it, while she completely disregarded the mistakes made by the other side. What kind of mistakes you ask? For instance.. They didn't have any actual proof but they had many witnesses. All of them were repeating the same thing (that they were family friends, that they knew my father, that he loved my cousin, etc. word by word) - all of it was suspicious, but one of the witnesses made it even more obvious. While he was giving his statement, he kept looking at a piece of paper infront of him. The judge asked him to give her the paper and then she proceeded to read it. They were instructions of what to say and how to answer if the judge asked something in particular. Funny enough, the whole thing didn't even get recorded during the case for one reason or another. The case kept going on for months. And at some point I simply just couldn't take it anymore, since it's EXTREMELY infuriating when you simply KNOW that the other side is lying and that the judge already formed an opinion and doesn't want to listen to you at all. At some point, when I was able to answer the judges questions, I addressed both the judge and the snake lawyer directly by saying that the other side was lying in court since day one, but since the judge was manipulated, she is now clearly too blind to see it. We later on had to change the judge. Now, not only the case still isn't closed after years - we also have several more cases open, with one of them being on supreme court - due to suspicion of jurisdiction corruption.

[@lawfullucyless6715]

judges shouldn't have egos that guide them **shrug

[@ViraIshnia]

@@lawfullucyless6715 yeah but they're human so while some might be able to remain neutral, some may not. Besides, it takes nothing to be polite in most circumstances

[@ViraIshnia]

@@KaiCluster holy hell! Okay, in a situation like that, I would struggle greatly to be polite

[@SaturnaliaJones]

You left your $hit for SIX YEARS and you yell at the judge on her way out?!! On what planet does she think she's entitled to the last word? Oblivious personified.

[@TheReeShow]

It's a shame this is all arbitration and she couldn't be held in contempt 😅

[@utterbluedragon]

...boomers....

[@wagonstation3709]

@@utterbluedragon I'm a boomer and I think they were crazy. How about the attitude/s of the kids that were never (or rarely) told "no," because it would "forever hurt their precious egos?"

[@phillippepym1560]

Poor husband. Looks 90 he is only 67

[@kristic4472]

@@phillippepym1560 he's 67?!?!? Could've sworn 80 at least! She looks 70s. Rich Karen and Kevin

[@JazzyJeffRealTalk]

The defendant was a nasty disrespectful little troll lady. I’m glad she lost.

[@lashundavis156]

🤣🤣🤣

[@elitesportsmom8841]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@Joshua-uq2pn]

A Karen, if provoked. Like most Karen's.

[@amityleigh8140]

A troll with a goblin husband lol

[@MsSparklesNGlitter]

Defendant "You're not listening..." She clearly doesn't know who is wearing the black robe, it isn't her.

[@yvettenelson9831]

Probably that's how she speaks to her husband, and thinks it's okay to do the same to others

[@MrBling67]

The defendant is a classless person who thinks someone owes her something

[@brandirae99]

you know what they call people like her? …say it with me… KAREN

[@annabanana730]

Her partner reminds me of my father who has alzheimers. He also looks like he's a jerk who spends all his time on his ass and praying for death. His wife is grotesque.

[@MrBling67]

W

[@deenana27]

So outrageous. Both old bats

[@Kayla-rd5jd]

@@deenana27 it’s wild bc their generation complains about how dumb & rude the younger generations are when half of them are just as bad as full grown adults lmao

[@patcarlson11]

The judge told the defendant, "You're right, I'm not listening." That says it all.

[@michaeldose2041]

The timing matters. She was looking at the papers Karen gave her. It is not possible to listen and read. Karen lost because she didn't know when to SHUT UP.

[@kristic4472]

I Loved that line!

[@The_Real_Mier]

@@michaeldose2041 Karen lost the case because she couldn’t prove her case, in contrast to the plaintiff, who actually could provide some evidence (like the document the judge read that made clear that the mentioned months were not payed). The attitude of both defendants did not earn them any ‘Likability Points’, but this judge most certainly rules based on legality and evidence in her cases.

[@judeshill9317]

What a graceless, crude harpie. Can you imagine being her age and not on any pathway to wisdom? Emotionally stunted...still in 6th grade.

[@LPerry-fx2ou]

You said it perfectly. I agree 100%.

[@stephanie5249]

Yes! That’s exactly what I felt watching her, but you said it much better than I could have. 👍

[@leslierequenez2976]

Ha ha ha you called her a harpy !

[@kellifraley7700]

Just awful people. Especially the 6th grade harpie! Haha

[@lauraanne5175]

I agree. I use to be friends with this man in his late 60s, I was in my 30s at the time...anyway, I would seldom question him on things he said bc I assumed he was wiser than me. Boy was I wrong! We stayed friends for 5-7 years and I discovered just bc someone is much older than you does not mean they are wiser or have better insight to life or advice.

[@arianefr78]

The defendant claims they have a huge driveway and have no problems storing the RV there, so why for the last 6 years have they forced it upon the plaintiff and then not expect to pay a penny? What ghastly people...

[@patcarlson11]

Maybe moving it to their property was the problem, not storing it there. DUH!

[@MhiaLee19]

@@patcarlson11 So they couldn’t get a tow truck in six years??

[@tthom2459]

why is no one asking: for all the time the RV was at the plaintiff's repair facility . . . why was it never repaired?

[@jennamont6618]

i could never understand that degree of entitlement. its really strange.

[@MhiaLee19]

@@tthom2459 The reason why the RV was never repaired is because the repair they requested was not the problem.

[@makedasolange2188]

All I can say is that the defendants deserve each other 🙄

[@nursej3391]

I would have thrown the defendant out when she was getting snippy. People like that act as if things should be "free" for them, like they're entitled to something. The Plaintiff was patient on them after 6yrs, lol. I would have given them 2mths if they didn't pay, send a certified letter, stating pay up and come and get it or it's gonna be sold.

[@josephdemasi6560]

@Leigh Hartman I totally agree !! The moment he opened his mouth !!

[@rmills807]

Judge Judy would have sent the defendant out the door after 1 minute with her attitude.

[@sophiapettit5251]

If they're willing to act this way towards the judge, I can only imagine how they were with the plaintiff. Yikes.

[@rooraptor44]

That RV stayed longer than my ex Wife

[@earnestfasoranti5733]

😂😂😂😂😆😆😆

[@elitesportsmom8841]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@KyTy-yb3vl]

😂😂 I just sprayed out my soda all over myself🤧😂😂

[@stephanie5249]

Omg 😂😂

[@kierstonsaunders]

😂😅

[@TheReeShow]

All I heard was "but our RV is broken" yeah but who broke it? Whose responsibility is it to fix it? It's not like they left it at a mechanic yard for 5 years. Here in Australia if you leave anything on anyone's property for a certain amount of time it becomes abandoned. Unless there is a set agreement to pay for storage there. Which if this case was in Australia there'd be no question, you're paying that fee.

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Hi Australia! Blessings from Kansas USA!! 🪴🌾

[@lolopop12345]

Same in the US but she was just so nice she kept it

[@samanthawillumsen9820]

I completely agree with you I don’t know what it’s like in other states but here in W.A I think it’s about 28 days you have until it’s classed as abandoned property and they can either keep it or dispose of it unless there is an agreement of some sorts

[@michelehemlokhexwhite4310]

Lol exactly. Us Australians are usually nice to a fault re storing other people's shit, but any kind of unrepaired/towed vehicle left on a lot.... omg they sting you BIG TIME here!

[@80sGamerLady]

Same in the US. The plaintiff was just being overly nice about it. The defendants took advantage of that.

[@mellvee]

I don't know why this bothers me so much, but the defendant repeatedly saying that they didn't know if the RV would "go on fire" seriously grated on my nerves.

[@michelehemlokhexwhite4310]

Got me, too. An auto electrical engineer would be able to tell you in a few minutes if it would 'go on fire.' 🙄 lol

[@elvickRULES]

I love that they prefaced that with saying it wasn’t fixed, then said they don’t know. Bums

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Lol same. Maybe it'll "go on fire" in their driveway now... 🔥 #karma

[@glenncurley680]

There is definitely something wrong with those old RV people. Ungrateful, inconsiderate, taking advantage of whoever they can.

[@Dycemusiqofficial]

Storage isn’t a problem yet still it’s on another person’s property why didn’t you take it to your home and pay tow fee only ???

[@traceyaz125]

She kept saying she wanted it to be fixed not just stored

[@ashley-cz1sl]

Wow the defendant is a nasty piece of work

[@robinking6342]

the defendants were...different... aint no way boi

[@robjk8876]

I love how every time the losers say they weren’t heard but yet they had a new camper and was going to leave the old one.

[@KyTy-yb3vl]

The defendant just finishe saying the RV fit in her driveway why isn’t anybody asking why they brought it back to the RV facility instead of bringing it back to their “spacious” driveway at their home! Old fools… No fool like an old fool and I know because I’m 62 just not a fool😉😂

[@miotch8225]

I thought the same thing. Combine that with her comment that they don't know what to do with it and can't get rid of it. They were taking advantage of it being someone elses problem

[@mss627]

How do people run businesses with absolutely no paperwork? It's truly unbelievable.

[@kotorisama3080]

The way the husband talks and the way the wife talks… the poor man. She’s like a bossy 3 year old 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@sandylane5498]

I'm confused why are the defendent's acting like all there issues are the plaintiff's fault and responsibility. She was kind enough to let them store their junk for 5 years at no cost. Ridiculous!

[@kimberlyadorno280]

I hope it's age and the defendants haven't been this rude their whole lives. I understand they were frustrated (well not really considering it was on the property for nearly 6yrs) but if you can't control yourself in a court setting with an arbitrator, then there's a problem.

[@shanewinchester8466]

You'd think these defendants would know all the lessons to be learned by now

[@rosej5029]

Plaintiff needs to take a small business & the law 101 course and attend codependents anonymous to learn to set boundaries. I know businesses that won't allow the customer to engage w/business unless money is upfront

[@suelindsey1372]

Excellent lessoned learned, always sign a contract and follow through!

[@TSears2010]

Even if you grab the nearest blue crayon and roll of toilet paper, always have a contract or bill of sale/receipt for ANYTHING, feel like 90% of these people have watched People's Court or any other court show and still don't have proper documentation to back up their cases

[@tcurry1531]

An undriveable RV is worth scrap, under $3,000.00 for sure. My neighbor has a used 1995 RV that runs and has usable interior and he can't get $37,000.00.

[@tcurry1531]

@Audio Freak It may be. It is in good repair and new ones can cost up to $200,000. + now.

[@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154]

It doesn't matter what they cost. They depreciate from the day it is driven off the lot. Maybe worth half in two years if in excellent condition. They do three things wonderfully. 1) Suck fuel at a rate of 8mpg. $200 to fill up, gets you about 300 miles. 2) Leak and rot. Its not if it starts leaking, its when. 3) Kill a large swath of grass where you park it in your BACK yard. Most cities don't allow parking it in front. Has to be behind the front line of home.

[@rosej5029]

Like Judge Milian has said before, the shows longevity on the air depends on the plaintiff/defendant's NOT keeping records & NOT using common sense.

[@patim5953]

Tom should have been there since Tom said it. Lol. Hey Tom where ya at?

[@Hatokirei]

"and it's still not fixed!" Sounds like a you problem and not an everyone else problem. They're lucky the Plaintiff didn't consider it abandoned for the SIX years they left it on her property.

[@loveyoutube2177]

Those defendants have some screws lose.

[@jacobdockter3436]

who cares that the motor home doesn't work?

[@stephenbanks5952]

The defendants are grubby. They abandoned their RV for 5 years but didn't want to block up their driveway. Apparently the plaintiff had to send them all sorts of letters to get them to come and pick it up. From this sort of behaviour you can make some kind of judgement about the kind of people they are. When the RV broke down the mistake the plaintiffs made was letting them move it back to their yard. They should have said 'No way' and told them to move it back to their apparently huge driveway. The defendants should have gone out of their way to make sure to pay the storage fees. All the subterfuge about 'only speaking to Tom' and then arguing about the cost and then saying they paid with no receipt and only being available outside of work hours and then not paying for three months and going camping show what difficult people they are. The plaintiffs should have realised what huge Karens they are and locked in something in writing to protect against this. The fact they are quibbling like this galls me after they stored it for free for 5 years. Why wasn't Tom there? He could have shed some light on this. He could have said if he made the agreement with the defendants or not. Somebody was lying for sure. I believe the plaintiff's story. The Karen will never accept the result. She still thinks she is in the right.

[@Leo-fo3sk]

When they said they paid cash and didn’t get a receipt, I was ready for the judge’s “cash does not leave this hand without a receipt in this hand” lecture. God I love this show !

[@desireyshante5077]

Defendants = definition of entitlement

[@NellieKAdaba]

Yes

[@WarGrowlmon18]

If it's that bad, junk it instead of storing it.

[@ek1414_]

These defendants are nuts.

[@rashidax432]

The RV husband is extra animated. The guy doing the interviews is always throwing a lil shade

[@productionhouse3397]

Defendenced "It's sitting at my house I don't know what to do with it" That's right genius, you don't know how to take care of it. 🧐

[@kathyvierra]

The defendants think it’s everyone else’s fault that they have a junky RV. Ugh! I can’t stand entitled people.

[@tcurry1531]

This old copy doesn't have a dime or they are cheap, they need to pay the $120.00 a month for 7 months.

[@inukoko2012]

The defendants have really nasty attitudes. Y’all got free storage over 5 years and have the audacity to be mad at the plaintiffs. Junk the Rv since it’s such a hassle.

[@journeysalkebulan]

The defendant thought her loud statement with her big mouth at the end was cute however it only served to show what type of person she really is!

[@wvrjl]

I can't believe somebody is so unorganized when they come to court. So unprepared.

[@melwesley7578]

Lady just couldn’t shut up! 😂

[@Uglylizard66]

You mean your self diluted truth old folks. storage ain't free

[@tammyliberty90]

Who in their right mind pays cash without a receipt!

[@chuck9380]

The female defendant is a professional Karen

[@lolamaude3449]

The defendants are what I would call lulus. Not to mention how rude they were to Judge Milan.

[@34stzoo]

Motor home doesn’t work. AND? Come get your shit!

[@nativeroscoe64]

Defendant, "Stupid." Judge replies, "It's almost like you watch me all your life." That was funny. 😀

[@Trillmermaidxxx]

What does a broken RV have to do with her?!?! 🥴 she was just holding it for them not repairing it lol

[@nhlanhlankambule6867]

Whose problem is it that the motorhome doesn't work?! the defendants are weird people 🤣

[@saronmalloy6074]

The ending😂😂😂😂u can’t plz ppl

[@codysnell3136]

Combined IQ 150

[@latricebrown7942]

Defendant: And we still have a motor home that does not work Me: WTF cares? Move that damn thing out of their space

[@drayuh192]

Some old folks are liars and thieves unfortunately. I learned that at 16 working in retail seeing old folks steal, but smile in my face. Maybe thats why I have trust issues lol.

[@GodChooses]

They've got a few screws loose lord have mercy

[@melissajones6]

How is she mad her own motor home still doesn’t work after 6-7 years.?? Also, Any homeless person would gladly take it off their hands if they actually wanted it gone like they say.….but clearly they are nothing but a bunch of procrastinating bullshitters full of bs excuses.

[@zoeg7985]

Oooh the defendants are shady! Usually the more “outraged” they are the guiltier they are ha

[@iamthomasgreenman]

“We still have a motor home that doesn’t work!” She should’ve taken those six years to find another mechanic if she didn’t trust them. Instead she whines when the world doesn’t act like she’s the main character of the story line.

[@arakano]

What was all the chanting about outside where Harvey was?

[@adeanelson3201]

if she really cared about whether that RV was working or not it would not be six years later that they're going through this. No way youre missing six years of possible trips in that RV if you really wanted it

[@charliebearhugs]

The defendants don't want to pay to junk their RV or store it

[@leebraddock8624]

The simple fact that it was sitting on their lot or yard for that amount of time says they had a contract or agreement to do so! If they didn't where are the dealers letters showing they wanted it picked up!?

[@mouthgina3213]

These old folks are delusional and stubborn. Terrible combo.

[@citytrees1752]

Those defendants are reprehensible.

[@randyholloway920]

“Go on fire.” “Yep, that there’s an RV.!”

[@wontsufferfools9332]

"And we saw the motorhome and it didn't work!!!" What does that have to do with anything? Rude old bat

[@aquamanGR]

Yeah, keep antagonizing the judge...it'll be fine....lol

[@PGcrazy6]

Lmao, he said he going to buy another motorhome ... he couldnt even pay for his storage fees (lol) no reciepts.

[@mickeypoo305]

There’s a laugh track. She made a joke and not a single person in the audience laughed but there was laughing. I BELIEVED IN YOU JUDGE MILIAN

[@jacobdockter3436]

jfc this old couple, who gd cares it doesn't run. you are paying for storage. 5 years:??!?! that is just nuts, just take to to junk yard they can crush it apart for scrap

[@magicworld3242]

The defendant seems to think, that all (Her) problems should become somebody else's problem. The defendant is such an ungrateful piece of 💩. Unfortunately, I've known a few people, just like the defendant 😢

[@yongato]

LOL! The defendant (the guy) should wash that jacket on hot water about 20 times and see if it shrinks a little.

[@intheredcold9216]

What a load lol. They didn't want the RV in their driveway.

[@ronalddunn291]

If they did that for me I would be happy.😆 Free yard cleanup 🤔🥳

[@thetenthltr]

Sometimes, ppl are just trifling. No other way to explain it. The plaintiffs are those ppl.

[@Time_Will_Tell760]

The magnifying glass 🔍 😂.

[@lifeasjaidior5238]

I feel like milian could listen to ppl a little more … giving judge Judy vibes

[@arile13700]

I agree. I know the defendants were rude, maybe that doesn’t apply to this case. But I hate it when she’s asking people questions, and then cuts them off. Sometimes I wonder what’s the point of asking if you’re just going to talk over them. Then she tells people to stop talking when people talk over her, I just don’t understand. She’s a great judge, very smart, but I just don’t understand the concept of that.

[@karli9434]

I agree too. She does this a lot.

[@travis8665]

@@arile13700 I used to think that too but I have since worked out it doesn't matter what the people say. The judge goes by what the law says. if people say they paid cash and have no records then the fact is they cant support their claim so they lose.

[@cathylittleton7361]

Keeping something for 5 yrs should automatically belong to the autoshop

[@jennamont6618]

i truly believe each party is under a separate delusion that perfectly supports each side's arguments.

[@aiming4peace254]

Yes, we can all relate to the statement of what you do when a nearly $100K toy you need breaks down.... go out and buy another one! Simple solution! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@nomaxxin]

My dad always says “there’s nothing worse than an old fool”

[@Carlos-ll7bz]

Omg that couple was WOW what was that

[@ismaelrodriguez6420]

I fail to understand why the fact that the RV is not working has to be the problem of the storage facility. That defendant is a piece of work.

[@rosepico3203]

I think these people live near me. I almost choked when she said Brooklyn Stanhope Road. Lol. I think I've seen that old guy in town lmao

[@deanwinchestersgirl8767]

Defendent is clueless and entitled thinks everything was free in life and they are both grumpy old people

[@charkitahood2532]

The audacity of these people

[@ashleyquam]

After 6 years of getting free storage $120 a month is cheap! How dare they just leave it there even after they say they have a big enough place to store it. I think they knew it would cost too much to get it running and they didn’t want it anymore

[@roxiestarr3430]

For her to keep talking, she should pay double for the disrespect.

[@ruemcbride-eads4656]

Lol they bought another!! That's why they can't store the damn thing

[@JaQuym]

It's ridiculous when the defendants get angry because the show pays the judgment they are not losing one penny out of pocket

[@superduperkid3143]

Notice how patient she is with people like that. She was rude and talking back all nasty. If they looked a bit different the judge would have treated them way different.

[@Anyakolokol]

That woman had to get her measly two cents in, ugh

[@melwesley7578]

You’re not listening! Believe my lies 😂

[@younghovahny]

That old guy is actually funny to watch.

[@apoliticallevi]

Damn I wish JM would've put her in her place for that last remark, but alas she has more class than her.