Ringing Up a Lawsuit | The People's Court

The plaintiff claims his ex won't return the engagement ring he gave her after they called it quits. The plaintiff is suing for its value. The defendant believes the plaintiff has lost his mind. The defendant claims she supported the plaintiff financially throughout their relationship.
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[@VladmirPoopN]

Asking for a ring 7 years later.... Talk about desperate.

[@camersonLA]

My ruling: dude went through all his dirty laundry being fully aired out on National TV just to see the woman he’s still in love with.

[@themadmillionaire]

@@camersonLA agreed!

[@BloodNote]

I believe this.

[@Pinkdiamond12]

It's more like obsessed with. He doesn't love her.

[@user-ed3yx9qv7d]

Yup

[@VladmirPoopN]

I think he needed the money and this was a desperate attempt because he's too proud to get a loan from anyone else and went after an ex that used to support him..

[@oregontrailpickers3553]

Once she started talking He knew it was a mistake to be there.

[@kay22100]

I believe every word she said. You can tell by HIS body language she’s telling the truth. He’s broke and need some money

[@innocentBystander19]

For me it was how vague and wishy washy his version was, vs how specific hers was. Guys on PC, when they’re wrong, are super vague. “Oh we just grew apart. I think her friends/mom poisoned her against me” then it’s the girls turn to speak and she has a very specific story about cheating/abuse/addiction. I think that specificity really shows who is telling the truth.

[@Ajanla]

its more sinister than that she has cut him off from her life and he is looking for a way back in, scary

[@minhduong1484]

I have seen a lot of these cases, and sometimes one party will tell small lies to make them look better but it comes back to bite them as then the judge does not believe them. The defendant did not try to lie to say she already returned the ring. When asked if he asked for the ring back, she said he did but she wanted the money he owed her. Her story is they both agreed for her to keep the ring to settle the finances between them and then they went their separate ways six years ago. Her story is just more believable as the truth.

[@oldageisdumb]

@@AjanlaI don’t think he’s looking for a way back in, I think he still has a substance abuse problem and was trying to come up with ways to get some money

[@TheJoe4kewl]

We have no idea

[@JoJo_B2]

The nerve of him to sit there & lie so bad & say he paid for everything & all this nonsense just to get his businesses aired out in heavy detail & be damn embarrassed 😭💀.

[@itselectricleo]

He is just lucky Doug didn't do the interview after LOL

[@Juneracks]

Exactly i hate the videos where doug isn’t doing the interviews

[@Mary_Lee2395]

No, curt is more of an ass and talks smack than Doug that’s why I don’t like him.

[@butyoucancallmesam]

They're both jerks.

[@LOADING...o.o.o]

Doug likes to stir the pot. I love it.

[@Ajanla]

She is telling the truth and he brought her to court so he could access her and see her again. This a twisted version of an "I miss you" from an ex

[@jennylynx1869]

7 years later? I think he was broke

[@VladmirPoopN]

​@@jennylynx1869i agree that the guy just needed money and imo decided to go after an ex that supported him and that he got away with stealing from.

[@charleyit]

I agree, he did not come across as being honest.

[@Bishop545454]

She seems like she really tried, and she sounds super loyal.

[@rociovelasquez51]

He didnt want to support his fiancé while she went to school… Girlfriend of two years…. not a week not a few months

[@javanburton]

Not to mention he said they were living at his mom house

[@JaiB-xr9fl]

He didn't want to support her but she was supporting him 😅

[@msfranklin2650]

I KNEW THAT IT WAS WAY MORE TO THE STORY THAN HE SAID....SHE'S VERY BELIEVABLE

[@amjedhatu542]

7 years? Definitely a pill head move.

[@vixxter3099]

Dude needed money

[@themadmillionaire]

@@vixxter3099 exactly! Brokie Broke 😂

[@S.K.Smith-Green]

For pills. $500 a pop ain’t cheap

[@DreamWarriorPaige]

Today's my birthday! 🎉🎉. Also morning People's Court fam!

[@user-mm9xo1qp5c]

Happy birthday!

[@Sean44McDonaldYT]

Happy Birthday!!!

[@Iivingthatlifebri]

Happy Birthday 🎂

[@stephanieclayton1066]

Happy Birthday 🎂

[@shaneiceoutlaw6837]

Happy birthday

[@madmaxofspokane1691]

This should be called "The case of the 7 year itch." 😉

[@mrsjones843ify]

she dodged a huge bullet, to bring her to court 7 years later 😒

[@Jamericancutie2024]

Where do they find those people to answer those questions? They are, I don’t even want to say the word, but not fast.😂😂

[@cynthiawallace7108]

I know right!!

[@cynthiawallace7108]

I think they Bee trying to say what Harvey wants to hear, because until sometime sides with him, it JM, he keeps asking.

[@hadley407]

Statute of limitations. Within those 6 years he never asked for the ring back.

[@14kchang]

She cut off all ties with him and this is just a vindictive way to get back into her life and it's sad. I hope he gets some counseling.

[@burton6849]

i dont think theres any statue of this. (JM never mentioned one).

[@kimberlyadorno280]

Actually, I believe they said they're from NY, and the statute of limitations for engagement rings is only 3 years, so he was definitely out of gas either way....lol

[@dollz2030]

What in the world would JM ask for just the car thing? Lol omg yeah! Dangerous abusive dude!

[@nikki__gee]

I know!

[@BudduredToast]

If he had really truly wanted it back he would have sued her 6 months, 1 year, even 2 years after the breakup. To wait 7 years is ridiculous. Something is fishy. Either he needs money or he's trying to find a way to see her again.

[@themadmillionaire]

@@BudduredToast exactly!

[@josephcatsanchez6590]

He ain't right in his head !!!

[@reelampkin2196]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅

[@themermaidstale5008]

He came up with this lawsuit to see her again.

[@PlugJh]

Buddy’s still a addict and probably broke and owes his dealer

[@mayasilliman1465]

You don't wait 7 years then all of a sudden ask for the ring back! I would never air my dirty laundry on national TV!!! Have you no other life dude?

[@luellamann2062]

7yrs…. He just wanted to see her

[@daynasafranek7807]

He is a broke addict who thought he had an old payday. Probably he was also hoping to get money from her again, by seeing her. He is the worst kind of ex.

[@VladmirPoopN]

I think he just needed the money. He would have sued her sooner if it was about just seeing her.

[@runningawayvagabond5876]

Plaintiff definitely comes across as seriously medicated. Whether that is prescription or not. Dude is so emotionally stunted and monotone I'd wager a bomb could go off behind him and he'd barely notice. And yeah, totally believe the defendant's side of things. Plaintiff either needs the money or just wants to see her again or both.

[@calliebirch2977]

I think he still loves her.

[@GW-ou9tu]

Her story is believable unlike his.

[@redsunflower87]

SEVEN YEARS LATER.....ARE YOU KIDDING?!

[@brickstine202]

She’s fortunate she escaped that relationship. Give him the ring and say goodbye.

[@VladmirPoopN]

After 7 years, I don't think she owes him the ring.

[@mclaybry]

The Defendant in this case is very well spoken and HAS A BACKBONE... so nice to see this. Plaintiff should be mortified he took her on national television and had his butt handed to him by her truths.

[@Sophie-mm7ow]

It's called Statute of Limitations. I didn't have to watch the case after hearing how long it had been. Even if he had proof that he didn't owe her anything, he still would've lost based on the Statute.

[@Demahevans]

Woww!! The nerve of him to come to court after all she did for him. I can't imagine coming to court after this many years.

[@mayasturgeon7354]

12:03 When Harvey said “you look scared” and the woman turns and asks her husband “are you scared right now?” HE WAS SILENT. THAT MAN IS TERRIFIED LMAO

[@lone.faerie]

Just by the intro as they're walking in, I knew how this was gonna go

[@danielenot2093]

the blank face he makes when she enumerates his misdeeds..you know it's all true!

[@sammyphala372]

This guy is not even half a man

[@AllThePhobes]

$500 a time for a Doctor to fill out a script, those people should be facing a Judge. They must have to discard their soul in order to live with themselves so ruthlessly over-charging to that extent, people who are grasping at the air for just a short break from pain & misery.

[@DaishaView]

He would have won if he didn’t wait so long. Waiting almost 7 years is suspicious

[@javanburton]

Maybe she probably had text that he owe her money

[@panamafernandez4641]

He wouldn't have won. The ring was an offset of the money he owed. Once she described how he lost his job and he was a drug addict she was helping to detox...he lost.

[@jeromecoleman13]

He busted and disgusted 😒 😂

[@latzmenon5770]

So glad she did not end up with him ! She is absolutely stunning , and could easily get someone better …….with a good job , car , house and money . Girl , last thing you need is a drug addicted , jobless , penniless financial leech stuck to your back .

[@jacquelinejackson9345]

He’s not sober now.

[@MindSetReset]

Somewhere in the middle of both their testimonies is the TRUTH

[@VladmirPoopN]

I'm going to go with the defendant; the one who didn't steal and wasn't addicted to pills.

[@JaiB-xr9fl]

Ppl complaining that he should get the ring back are dense. It's too late to get the ring back. You have a window of opportunity to get the back which is 5 years. Where was he for 5YEARS! He couldn't be bothered to get the ring back for 5 WHOLE YEARS?!? Laws have time limitations. If an 80 year old wanted a ring back from another 80 year old from 60 years ago, that would be crazy. Y'all trying to defend mens rights not understanding that this has nothing to do with misandry. No wonder he's an addict. He's got enablers everywhere. Even strangers. Be frfr

[@swtdrh1]

waiting six years to sue for an engagement ring....doesnt pass the smell test.....

[@NubianP6]

Still using.

[@lolamaude3449]

Totally good call!

[@AgingLikeWine]

I believe her and his own testimony confirms that yea an addict. Him living at home when he had a great position at work tells me he’s bad with money. A mess.

[@calliebirch2977]

Hes so scary. He's stocking her.

[@Fluffyy808]

The first girl to comment on the street really pissed me off. Happy and dumb.

[@shannonsims3708]

Alternative universe tony sopranos and Irina peltsin lol

[@686JM]

Poor guy, he said he's 32? Looking more like 42 having had the drug abuse stuff that the defendant brought up! 😟

[@ihateutube1143]

Looks 33-35 to me!

[@kevincastle649]

Shes cute and likeable. He looks like an old 32 and miserable. Dude was lucky he even dated her at all.

[@patticake7297]

So embarrassing for him

[@KweenK07]

Bro just needs some money lol

[@Peepeepoopoo5543]

She dodged a bullet

[@computerpro123abc]

MILIAN IS SO FULL OF IT. IN NYS THE RING GOES BACK AUTOMATICLY. BUT THE TIME LIMIT IS 6 YEARS IN NYS. MILIAN NEVER ASK FOR EXACT DATES, SHE IS SO BOGUS AS A PRETEND JUDGE.

[@adriankasan6344]

He needs the money now

[@adventuresconjuan]

Congratulations to the defendant… the guy should get a life . Move on

[@kimberlymoxley104]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!🎉 ENJOY YOUR DAY!🎉🎉🎉

[@user-sg4iy3vv3d]

He still loves her.

[@chereeB-hummingbird]

He is being PETTY! Becsuse she dont want him or need him Why would you want back A Thief & a Liar. 👀

[@user-zu8ob6mm9m]

In most US states, engagement rings are considered "conditional gifts" given with the expectation of marriage. This means that if the marriage doesn't happen, the person who gave the ring is usually entitled to get it back. The reasoning is that the ring symbolizes a verbal agreement to marry, and ownership isn't fully transferred until the wedding takes place.

[@minhduong1484]

Yes but that is not an absolute return in all cases. Her defense is that they created a new agreement where she could keep the ring as settlement for money he owed her. In this case neither party had much evidence but her story makes more sense. If he valued that ring so much, one would think he would have sued much sooner.

[@VladmirPoopN]

Did you watch the case or are you a bot?

[@mercmichigan]

What guy cares about the wedding ceremony and reception?

[@user-hu6qo2dj5w]

You could tell she is telling the truth about the relationship

[@Bebedollie]

7 yrs is a pretty long time tho lol

[@CelloandAnayaJ]

What evidence did she show he owed her? None!

[@Me-qb6jm]

He wanted to go to court just to see her🎉

[@aSjksk]

Narcissist mindset

[@vageta9281984]

Im so glad I have control of my anger, I never wanna be like this guy over a woman!

[@laniinlove9171]

I think he just wanted to see her again. Smh

[@aaronhollowell5788]

If he was working at a dealership he would have health insurance lady!

[@amandamatheny3675]

somebody doesn't know how to listen. He got fired from his dealership job. That's why he didn't have health insurance.

[@richardroy3584]

if she said the ring was only worth $800, then why would she call it even for $6000??

[@mimim8532]

You all will disagree but I feel sorry for him. Thankfully she didn’t marry him. Just feel sorry for him….he’s pretty lost.

[@LataraReed]

NOOOOOOO NOT CAME ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THE WAY FROM HAWAII TO TESTIFY IN ENGLISH BUT CANT even SPEAK 🗣️ ENGLISH 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✅✅ im CRYING🛩️🛩️🛩️🛩️🌍✈️✈️

[@lutherwhitley-jv4tk]

He is just hard up for money and trying to get it from here, They had an agreement for the ring to offset some of his debt to her. He didn't get crap.. and deserving nothing. Judge made the right call !!

[@aiming4peace254]

He almost seems too uncomfortable to be the plaintiff... there's something wrong with him.

[@youngtripp5184]

She’s pretty

[@Ginaaaa555]

You left Hawaii 😅 to visit this mess.

[@JuMamaG]

Why do women choose sorry men?

[@bgoodorhell4u]

He still loves her

[@VladmirPoopN]

He's still broke

[@amandamatheny3675]

statute of limitations is five years and most states for return of an engagement ring so he should've lost on that grounds anyway without her even having to hear the whole case

[@wdwnutjm]

Unless I'm mishearing he says "She did, not me" right after the judge rules. he basically proved the defendant's case

[@Kimbrak143]

He still loves her and realizes he fumbled her. 🤦‍♀️

[@adeanelson3201]

If marriage doesn’t happen ring is returned- UNLESS a new agreement is made. It’s way more likely- which is all it needs to be in court like this- that a new agreement was made and he was fine. That’s why he didn’t care in seven years. But somebody dumb told him ‘the ring is yours no matter what since you didn’t get married’ and now he’s here trying his luck. The man was living with his mom and then kicked out his fiancé because he wasn’t willing to come off any money supporting her while she was in school. If he really thought that ring was his to keep, he definitely seems the type that would have been here before 7 years.

[@seemonguy3016]

Thats a rough 32

[@jamievasquez8078]

He misses her he knows he had a good woman he knew he did her wrong so he left the ring with her now hes in his feelings 7 years later because hes came to his senses could be hard up for money too

[@AmandaAtkinson-dv4ik]

To be fair yes 7 years is a little to late but the defendant doesn’t has any evidence of all that money and support she gave him nothing but word of the mouth or (flapping gums as the judge would say )and he does have evidence of buying the ring .. The only thing she should have taking into consideration is 7 years too late for a law suit, my opinion is the judge let her emotions over rule her judgement plain and simple...

[@MrStv1163]

Agree with you. I didn't like the way Judge Milian handled this case; it seemed like she got emotionally wrapped in in sympathy for the defendant based on a whole lot of nothing. It's all the defendant's word about how he supposedly owed her - she presented zero proof that any of her help to him was in the form of a loan or that she expected to be paid back. People who are in relationships often help each other financially, and that doesn't make it suddenly turn into a loan after the relationship goes sour. If it was a loan, show documentation of it. Morally, I think she should have given him the ring back, and most jurisdictions would have found in his favor, if he filed in a reasonable amount of time - his biggest failure was waiting for so long to pursue it. Honestly, I think he waited because he naively thought he had a chance to get her back - it had nothing to do with any supposed payback he owed her.

[@KingdomKeys53]

Too long to have feelings, but not too long to sue?

[@chereeB-hummingbird]

💯Exactly😄 Toxic ass ..they make no sense

[@MediaBuster]

The judge is RIDICULOUS taking cases that should be dismissed on their face.. She just takes these cases for gossip.. 🤡

[@mysticalmuse333]

“The one who got away.”❤

[@LadyChatterly]

I always thought that engagement rings were strictly contingent upon getting married. Period. What is the judge doing?

[@PompetusDad]

Yup. You rite!

[@minhduong1484]

Engagements are essentially contracts. A ring is given in contemplation of marriage. Normally the ring should go back to the giver; however, like in any other contract, both parties can create a new contract. Her defense was he owed her money so the ring was used to settle their finances. Neither of them had any proof but the facts weigh more in her favor as he waited so long. Let's make up an example. I hire a guy to clear some of my land of trees and brush, and we negotiate $300 as payment. I do not pay him the $300. Six years later the guy sues me because he didn't get the $300. My defense is that instead of money he asked to keep all the wood for his services as it was worth more than $300. Now I could be lying that we created a new contract. But the six years he waited weighs in my favor as if I simply refused to pay him, most people would have sued earlier. Also someone taking other forms of payment in lieu of money is plausible.

[@lauriediego1887]

​@@minhduong1484 You are a unicorn. A youtube commenter with common sense.

[@VladmirPoopN]

Wow OP... You couldn't figure it out when it clearly explained in the episode? Getting dressed in the morning must be rough.

[@VladmirPoopN]

​@@PompetusDadshe's not right. Smh

[@chokie.chokie]

the 'outside of the court host' .. reminds me of david lee roth's van halen

[@mikek7050]

I think he thought he could win her back. And they would actually get back together. The ring was an anchor. Once he finally came to terms with the fact it was over, he wanted the ring back. I think it was less about money, and more about anger and closure. He is still working through the stages. That's why he's blaming her mother. It's hard to admit when bad things happen to you, and you are at least partly to blame.

[@dallas24s69]

Shouldn't waited that long and he would of won 🙄😂

[@canisdeumnox4925]

The question of citizenship via marriage should have been explored.

[@minhduong1484]

1) What does that have to do with the issue at hand? He said he never got the ring back even though they did not marry. She agrees she did not return the ring but her story is they agreed for her to keep the ring to settle debts her owed her. 2) People acquire citizenship through marriage all the time.

[@KA-ey9sc]

found the bigot in the comments

[@kimberlyc54]

No Harvey , you wanted him to be scared that’s just his stance!

[@marcinadler389]

I checked in CA it is 5 years. he is so outta luck.

[@MAMiiGOTkUSH]

Definitely a junky

[@crystalshaw8744]

What difference does it make what the EXACT temperature was?

[@norma5044]

The lady mentioned whether in her statement so the judge asked another question regarding the temperature.

[@rockobill7637]

Men will push things all the way up to what they think they can get away with...trouble is, sometimes they take it too far and cross the line...he waited four weeks thinking she'd call...she didn't do it, and then it's oops...sorry my man, looks like you lost a good one

[@granitemoss1451]

"Her mother came in between us." Or your chronic unemployment and addiction issues, fella. Guy's in such denial- including thinking he can get the ring or its value 7 years later.

[@onetiredgirl2]

Wht do you want a ring from someone who you don’t like or want to be reminded of. If she had sold it I could see it but she claimed it wasn’t worth 5k so what is the point