Pepe Willie - Full Interview

[@Tzipporah36]

Thank you Pepe and Michael. The passing of Prince left a huge void in the world of music, artistry, creative genius. We need to keep sharing these stories about Prince and everything he did. 💜💜💜💜💜

[@abrahamjackson6019]

Pepe was a blessing to Prince, taught him the business of the game.

[@MrTone075]

Excellent story. It's crazy no one really talks about his mentorship. We've got to start somewhere.

[@nancypatricia511]

Pepe's story is like a prequel to Star Wars. He was the perfect mentor to young Prince Rogers Nelson and those in Grand Central. It was with Pepe that Prince got his first experience playing and recording music in a studio as well as learning about the construct of songs, the business of music, etc. It was with Christ Moon that Prince partnered and got a taste of writing songs for someone else and education on recording equipment, laying down tracks, and recording his own music. By the time Prince was ready to look for a company that would sign him, Prince and Owen found each other with the help of Chris Moon. It was Owen's experience as a promoter that gave him the experience he needed to get Prince in the door of various record labels and help in negotiating Prince's contract. When Prince's career really started to take off, Owen says that he couldn't take Prince any farther because he didn't have the experience that Prince needed. That is when His management team of Cavallo, Ruffalo, and Fargnoli were hired. There is that transitional period of time that has been often identified with 'Space Heaters" that was messy. There was a lot of stuff being put upon Owen that was really not a part of his job as a manager of Prince and his career. Prince was not the only artist that was on his docket. Prince wrote down all the things that he expected Owen to do as his manager and it was not possible nor the job Owen had signed up for. That is when a team effort was needed. It was not just Prince that was needing managing, but all the mounting support staff necessary to meet the auxiliary needs of the production. Owen was not a go-fer. He was too busy on the phone trying to arrange gigs for Prince. Each man gave Prince the critical elements that Prince needed at the stage Prince was at in launching his career. Pepe's contribution to Prince's career in its very early stages is a very important piece of the puzzle that has been either overlooked or misunderstood in its span and importance in the life and career of Prince. There are a lot of people that got Prince to the top of the heap. Chris Moon is standing on the shoulders of Pepe. Owen is standing on the shoulders of Chris Moon. C, R,& F are on the shoulders of Owen, and Prince is on top. And whose shoulders is Pepe standing on? Bernadette Anderson? It is the people at the bottom that often get overlooked, overshadowed, and sometimes forgotten. Michael Dean makes the point on his show over and over again to, at least, pay respect.

[@cardenas7pointez]

Ms. Patricia, that was very eloquent how you explained the management beginnings of Prince's careern

[@nancypatricia511]

Thank you @@cardenas7pointez Prince was a very determined young man with a goal and the talent to match it. He never would have found these men if he had not been looking for answers and direction at various points along the way. All of these people, and more, were the lines that connected those points to help him reach his goal. That is the way it is supposed to be. Prince is known to say that he didn't look back. But as we can see in his life and in our own, somebody was putting gas in our tank for us to move forward. Thanks again.

[@abrahamjackson6019]

@@nancypatricia511 Everything your looking for is also searching for you. Nancy Pepe was a blessing to Prince mentoring him in the music business. What amazes me the most about Prince was his focus and drive at such a young age when most can't get out of their own way. Quincy Jones had that trait also. You must read his autobiography

[@accroni]

"Why should I leave my job for an artist that probably won't make it?" If Husney did say that I'm sure those were the biggest words he ever had to eat!!!

[@kittyhopkins2358]

This is an awesome summary and perspective. Pepe contributed a lot as far as getting his solid foundation built. Thank you Pepe!

[@chj2]

GREAT interview, Michael! Pepe is one of the OGs, and he definitely deserves his time in the spotlight! Thank you for helping highlight his contributions.

[@marianpeppers902]

Pepe on this Pod? Was waiting for him to surface. Recently, saw a video clip interview he was helping to narrate about Prince...Can still see the sadness and stream of tears... for Prince of his departure out of this life...Got to admit...Pepe was the only one seen, who cried...You know...People are put in our paths to be a beacon of light...to help guide us...Pepe is one of them...c/c

[@aamlam]

I thank Pepe for all he did, he has a heart of gold. I heap respect on you and bow. Thank you for your contributions to the hottest of the music industry greats , you were the bridge. ❤️

[@sheisawarenow3753]

Great Interview! Pepe is one of my favorites from back in the day Prince peeps....Pepe needs to go ahead and work on that movie. Thanks Prince Podcast.....been waiting on this one.

[@p.burley4533]

Man, this was a serious insight. I had only heard of this humble brother from some pieces in Uptown magazine, I think by that Swedish author. I can’t wait to get my hands on Mr. Willie’s book. Awesome interview.

[@garfieldharrison510]

Even at that age he was prolific and showed signs of diligence for the future. I didn't know to what extent Pepe was involved in his career. His story was intriguing. Thanks for sharing...

[@LG-kx8xl]

Great interview! I still have my Minneapolis Genius album 1977 w/Pepe & Prince. I was 9 years old and have been riding with Prince ever since.💜

[@warrenwilliams6372]

Pepe did a excellent job with prince and morris career, he is such a vital asset for both their success...

[@druscillalee2183]

I'M LOVIN'THESE OLD SCHOOL MEMORIES 👏🏽👍🏽 AND TOO THE CONNECTIONS WITH PRINCE 💜 YOUR MEMORIES ARE AWESOME 😎 THANKS FOR SHARING 👏🏽👍🏽

[@danube466]

That is why prince was strong headed about his direction early, because pepe prepped him

[@misterwebb8564]

Michael Dean! You are tha man! God bless you.

[@user-gi6ee8vj1y]

Michael, have you thought about interviewing the people who directed Prince's videos, the dancers and extras, etc. I have often wondered about the children who participated in the "7" video with Prince and Mayte.

[@Tzipporah36]

That is SUCH as awesome idea!! I would love that!

[@chj2]

Cool idea. I bet those child dancers are in their early 30s now, and they probably have some interesting stories about that shoot.

[@user-gi6ee8vj1y]

@@Tzipporah36 it would be another brilliant feather in Michael Dean's (interview) cap!

[@aprilwatson4863]

The hired the kids cause no one the knew had young kids

[@qarsiq]

a joy to hear, and thank you Pepe Willie for touching us with words and music.

[@shanellmeredith8035]

I know what I'll be doing for the next two hours! Thanks to you all!!!

[@xbbradley]

Great interview. I bought the 94 East album the week it was released. Until now, I never really knew who Pepe Willie was other than that he was responsible for that album. Thanks Michael for this interview.

[@tyroneashford1195]

This interview was truly delightful and also refreshing! This guy Pepe Willie's character, charisma, and compassion is truly honorable.. Yet, I appreciate Mike D. stating... There's a lesson to learn from this. 'When someone takes time, money, effort, and knowledge. And invest it into the lives of others. The least those people can do is share some of the monetary wealth. Into the life of the investor.' (It's called return.) -MIN OBI Ha'Shem.

[@thewaragainstcars]

Superlative interview! As a newer Prince fan, I found this to be very enlightening. Your audio is superb!

[@kcoolmuziq]

Pepe is THE TRUTH! He didn’t get the credit he deserved because he didn’t have “The complexion for the protection “.

[@artotoriumamvs7141]

Mike this and Terry Jackson the best interview I have ever heard I mean amazing and so much damn knowledge.

[@shanellmeredith8035]

Andre Cymone, Jill Jones, and Susan Rogers are in top ten too. Along with Owen Husney, Perry PJ Jones, and recently with an ex-Prince security executive, Hucky Austin are worth all your time!!

[@artotoriumamvs7141]

@@shanellmeredith8035 not for me there is a soul to pepe and Terry that is different from those you listed

[@artotoriumamvs7141]

Wait Jill Jones was fire too

[@RJNumber45]

The Michael Bland joint was great, too

[@drgeorgetayloriii4280]

Michael -- congrats on doing a very good interview. Your numbers match your efforts. This is a very intense interview and it's a lot better than some of the other recent videos circulating with Pepe - that that it's a contest but quality matters. You let him talk and breathe - keeping the spotlight on the guest. You are now at the point where you can deep dive into session work which I hope you consider. It seems that the next step as the stories are starting to saturate at this point. Still lots of gems on specific sessions.

[@somethingdifferent4u247]

Much respect to PEPE WILLIE, I learned so much from him. Thank you so much for sharing this history. Excellent video 👍🙂

[@Ricochet_Romance]

Pepe you are a great dude and what a awesome story. I’m very familiar with your work because I’ve heard a few of your interviews before. You are a major foundation to all of this . Thank God you kept a level head. I pray that you receive your blessing from all of your hard work. Michael Dean, as always you knocked it out of the park with the best interviews.

[@debbiebennett1902]

Ty he was just going thru something no one understood

[@Anabee399]

MIke's pumping the Prince Juice. Wow, Pepe Willie knows how to make a story genuinely interesting and comical. Great interview!

[@derekdauchan2741]

Hey Brother Mike, thanks so much for these great interviews. Putting together these interviews and videos (although a labor of love) are hard work. From reaching out to former band members, associates and doing research, to assembling, editing and audio, time and time again, you give us insight into the personal as well as the creative side of Prince. Thanks again brother.

[@mdean]

Thank you!!

[@williambrandongiles3692]

Thank you for this..Stay Safe/ And hope I get to meet cha PEPE Willie.. 🎵

[@B.Jewels]

I'm listening to The Rainbow Children right now....i love it !! 💜

[@suzeesix]

My very favorite Prince album.

[@EUPHORIAMUSIQ]

Great Interview as usual. I really appreciate Pepe's talent and work. Very inspiring

[@neonvandal8770]

Pepe is such a good solid dude. Need a lot more wise, nurturing brothers like him to school the youth about how to protect themselves in that shitty business. Respect to you Pepe. 🙏

[@jonzaremba]

another great interview!!!

[@mscapricorn-ce1pl]

Great interview.

[@mdean]

Thanks!

[@mrmaxxx94]

Great interview with Pepe Willie and set the record straight on Prince before,during and after,real cool feedback

[@marionhiggins2529]

I truly loved the interview very informative. Pepe Willie thank you for dropping your knowledge on us. I was excited when you mentioned Chubby Checker, meeting Jimmy Hendrix a lot of these guys has passed their prime when I was growing up but nonetheless it's most exciting.

[@strauqq1]

Great interview!

[@TaurusCurrie]

Lovin' Cup was the jam! Still in rotation......

[@jonzaremba]

Those love letters to Prince that he saved should be published. I would love to see a book of historic fan art, letters, or tributes to Prince.

[@keithbell9348]

How ironic that Pepe, arguably one of THE MOST influential figures in Prince's career, was for so long shut out of the narrative of the history of Prince. I recall interviews with O Husney, and C Moon and their versions always begin with "the talent this guy had was amazing! His discipline as a musician was impressive!". But of course any explanation as to where that discipline for directing his own career didn't come from them. It came from PEPE WILLIS. So glad Pepe's story is now established!

[@nancypatricia511]

"But of course any explanation as to where that discipline for directing his own career didn't come from them. It came from PEPE WILLIS." (sp) I don't know what you mean by this statement. Pepe says HIMSELF in this interview that he did not have the discipline that Prince had. Prince had practiced for 12 hours and was down in the basement later that day practicing drums. Pepe said that after four hours of practicing his guitar he had enough. Prince's discipline and talent came from inside himself. No one is taking credit for that, not even Pepe, because no one can. Why does Owen's version start with "the talent this guy had was amazing!"? Because it is Owen's experience when he heard the demo tape. Why would it begin any other way? He is telling his story from his viewpoint. How has Pepe's story been shut out? He has been part of documentaries and has told his story. Now he is placing his story with Prince in the context of his life in the form of a book. If anyone shut Pepe out, it was Prince. I think Pepe feels a bit unsung and forgotten. I can't blame him for feeling that way. But it wasn't Owen or Chris Moon who shut anyone out or took advantage of anyone. Here is an article entitled: The Man That Discovered Prince. www.vice.com/en/article/689pwv/the-man-who-discovered-prince-owen-husney Pay close attention to the last paragraph because it is a retrospect on how Owen handled the "space heater conflict" which in the end was petty reason to be fired. You might say that it was Pepe who discovered Prince. But most people still didn't know who Prince was. It took a lot of people to discover Prince at the various stages of his life. Andre and Prince discovered each other in the 7th grade!! But it wasn't until Prince was discovered by Owen that Prince was anywhere near ready for primetime. Even then, his demos needed to be redone and promo packs put together. And Prince needed to be financially backed. Owen was the last guy before Prince was discovered outside of Minneapolis. Another good article of Prince before The Revolution blog.discmakers.com/2011/06/prince-before-the-revolution/

[@keithbell9348]

@@nancypatricia511 Wow @Nancy that's ALOT to unpack. At first glance I would swear you were Owen Husney's lawyer or his wife. Because you went way beyond someone simply voicing their opinion. But I do appreciate you doing your homework. So yes, I will delve deeper into the references you provided. Still, do I feel Pepe was "shut out" of so many past narratives on the driving influences of who - for lack of a better phrase- got Prince started in this business? Absolutely. Yes Prince's motivation amd drive largely came from himself, for even Prince in one interview said that for him , since he didn't see a future in professional basketball, music was the only alternative for his forseeable future. And yes, his drive was the stuff of legends. Nonetheless, he needed direction on how to navigate thru the hazards of establishing his career in that field of endeavor. And there is alot more involved in that aspect of the story then Chris Moon or Owen Huseny. THAT was my point. You made yours. Now if you excuse me, it's time for me to do some digging... .

[@nancypatricia511]

@@keithbell9348 We have crossed paths before in a conversation about making a full documentary about Prince. I didn't realize that till just a bit ago. I hesitated to reply at first and to send, but I am glad I did because I now have a clearer picture. No ill intent, just clarity. What you are talking about (I think) is INFLUENCE on a personal level like a father might have on his son. Pepe was with Prince and was a part of his life as Prince was becoming interested in the working of the music business, teaching him things that he was not getting anywhere else, and he was indeed MENTORING these young men. Not Prince, Andre, or Morris had fathers (men) at home. For just that alone Pepe should be getting a salute. Yes, I understand what you saying and I agree. Pepe was probably the most influential person in the life of Prince and his future career. It is foundational. Prince was made ready to be in Chris Moon's studio and collaborating with Chris because of Pepe's influence. That time with Chris Moon, learning the ropes of the studio, gave Prince the experience he needed to produce his first album and the demos he needed to start knocking on doors. I apologize for sounding confrontational. My Grammarly emoji didn't look very sweet but I didn't know how much longer I wanted to tweak my comment. Every conversation that is had makes things clearer. Thank you for responding. Happy digging!

[@keithbell9348]

@@nancypatricia511 Hats off to you @Nancy for your informative leads. Yes, I DO recall our sharing of ideas previously. And again, I discover the value of being willing to learn from others. The curse of social media is that it robs one of certain vital aspects of direct conversations face to face or over the phone. Where so many misunderstandings can be avoided. I try to do better, and have made progress, but every now and then, I am guilty of "misreading" the comments from others and rush to conclusions. As before- you were correct on the some of the points you shared where we can peer behind the scenes on Pepe, and the other producers who guided Prince. Thank you!

[@nancypatricia511]

@@keithbell9348 Yes, I rush as well. I read and re-read. Write and re-write. Communication and Diplomacy are difficult when emotions run high and thinking is clouded. Thank you for the conversation.

[@druscillalee2183]

I HAVE TO PURCHASE YOUR BOOK PEPE WILLIS 👏🏽👍🏽

[@archiejackson2315]

Great commentary...Pepe

[@archiejackson2315]

Thanks Pepe 4 looking out 4 Prince

[@susanroyal97]

Excellent interview! 💜

[@stevensondwayne]

Good interview. Wish it was longer.

[@janicebass3145]

This was good

[@CainaanDC]

Another great interview thanks Podcast Juice

[@debbiebennett1902]

Blessing to PePe

[@joeseafer1978]

GREAT VIDEO

[@XoXo475]

Michael Dean doing the lawd’s work!!!!! Can I get an aaaaaamen ahaaah!!!!!!

[@shanellmeredith8035]

AMEN AMEN AMEN

[@mkeyw2226]

Key Point! He said P’s music wasn’t Commercial! This happened way before Larry G came in the Picture! Warner Brother had the same complaints! I’m sure he struggled financially in sales. But Touring = real Money. I What’s more upsetting is the Greatest Artist/Musicians have less Awards than then today’s Artist with less talent! But than again competition was tougher than too!

[@amautaamauta]

Interesting insights but critically, Pepe Willie may have been supportive of Prince but he also seems to have done this with ulterior motives. Pepe readily abandoned his own band mates for stardom only to attach himself to Prince, after his record deal was dropped. Pepe Willie's own words reveal an individual wiling to do anything to just get into Hollywood or the music industry but never truly making it. Trying to piggy back on Prince's success with the release of 94 East recordings in the mid 1980s also seems opportunistic. And why he was asked to the release.

[@netarcheruto]

this interview by Pepe was very informative punctuated with "u know" between every sentence lol

[@johnmoore4714]

PEPE was instrumental in the development of Prince 🤴 superstardom.

[@julienceaser]

Another from the early days that has much to share, You can tell that he really still cares and has been effected by the loss of P. Look forward to reading his book. I imagine Pepe pissed off many, He tells it like it is. I never truly understood why Owen was so pissed off just because Prince wanted a space heater. I know it must have been tough working for him at times but still .. odd. Interesting that he helped advise Morris but not surprised. Morris was the comedic star for sure.. scene stealer but he was playing the character both he and Prince created. You can hear Morris the character come out in Prince many times when he laughs and cracks jokes. I often wonder how things would have played out if people like Pepe stayed in Prince's life. He sounds like a positive influence.

[@tracythejazzlifer4529]

The guys from the Prince band , called him PEmPEy. With love of course.☺️

[@thjonez]

Pepe solid

[@dethbolt000]

I'm going to tske a guess based on these early recordings that I have that the song that Prince showed Linda the keyboard rhythm and Andre Cymone the bassline was "Love, love, love".... Am I right?

[@jimjones1374]

Correct

[@dethbolt000]

@@jimjones1374 Ha! I knew it! I listened to that song and notice the similarities in Prince's recordings on "For You"... Heavy early Prince flavor.

[@billygoat300]

That intro makes me feel like Halle Berry in "Monsters Ball"...😆 🤣 😂

[@mdean]

😂 Lord

[@vashtikelly6837]

LOLOLOLOL

[@youknowwhatflav9916]

🥴🙆🏾‍♀️ yikes!

[@dmoneyd2010]

//: Love peace & harmony 2 da family 🌹

[@B.Jewels]

I don't think Pepe understands the music industry and artists rights. He sounds old school to me. He says Prince got weird when he had slave on his face etc.. and then says he understood why he did that but then doesn't like albums such as The Rainbow Children because it's not commercial/radio music.? That was part of the reason why Prince wanted to break free in the first place, he was tired of doing the same type of music. He wrote in his memoir the industry keeps trying to shove the commercial type music down our throats. Prince didn't get weird he stood up for what was right/ fair..

[@drainedeyes4268]

I certainly have put my entire life into music, especially the last few years or so, but I have to drop the ego and say - to me - Jacob Collier may be the next in the line of the greatest musicians of all time. I have a great eye for aesthetics, for the feeling and emotion, what moves the heart - but my musical technicality just isn't there yet. Yeah I love a good m7 or Maj6, Supremes type progressions, or riding a groove in mixolydian or dorian, but I'll never be able to hear perfect pitch, and I can only dream to compensate for that one day, hopefully until that day eventually comes. But dudes like Jacob Collier have taken their ear for perfect pitch, and really worked and worked their entire lives towards injecting the heart and soul into that unique skill, and really creating some new type of magic. The Weeknd is cool too lol, no Prince or Stevie, but he and Bruno Mars are definitely a step ahead of the rest in the modern scene, in comparison. Just my thoughts, though.

[@accroni]

Does anyone know if Prince ever acknowledged Pepe's influence upon his career?

[@dwayneking7654]

He talked about all of his influences including Pepe.

[@aprilwatson4863]

I wonder by him teaching Prince the bizz. How did he feel about Prince not leaving a Will?

[@mrtoles8692]

remember Sheila E said in a interview he had a will

[@aprilwatson4863]

Yes Mayte an a few other people said he had a will be seems like the legal team he had when he was here ain't worth shit..truly was being paid for nothing .this man had his own island no way in hell he didn't have a will.

[@inspectorbudget]

I don't understand why people are so willing to believe the narrative that he had no will. I mean everybody just bought that hook, line & sinker. Who knows what might've happened to it.

[@kimgomes2879]

Well!! He seems to be a great guy, it's so sad how Morris and Prince didn't show thir appreciation. Prince🎸 did say he had a mean side. Yes absolutely respect all day long !!! 🤨when I hear storie about Prince, some of the thing's that are said it kind of brings a 😥 fall from my eye .......your a good man pepe!! Beautiful heart 💜don't change your ways. Good is coming your way!💜💜💜

[@skygazer6898]

Prince was a musical genius but as a human being, he was as flawed as the rest of us. People do not like to talk about his mean side out of respect for the guy, but you just know from what they say, Prince had treated them badly

[@wisdomseeker3362]

Wow! So Pepe saw how Prince was trying to hold Morris back from his popularity and riches from the movie Purple Rain so he intervened by going to Warner Bros. and letting them know secretly that the royalties percentage was too low, so Warner Bros. raised the pay for Morris Day secretly and said to Pepe not tell Prince one word about it. Well, Warner Bros. also called the radio stations that weren't playing Morris Day and The Times album a lot and to play it more and it became Platinum! Well, after _all_ Pepe did for Morris and Morris was supposed to pay Pepe, Morris _didn't_ _pay_ Pepe❗Doesn't that figure! He offered Pepe _some_ money, later down the line,but you know, it makes one wonder. Makes you wonder who your friends are!

[@mscapricorn-ce1pl]

I have been a Prince fan since the late 1980s. In my opinion, he never changed his personality. Producing 40 studio albums, touring, writing songs for other singers, starring in several movies, etc. A lot of work/projects increases stress/changes a person's mood. Just saying!

[@mscapricorn-ce1pl]

People with one or more of the following major planets/influence in their astrology natal chart need quiet time, solitude, meditation, rest: Pisces, Cancer, Scorpio, Taurus, Libra, Virgo, Capricorn.

[@Jr.III-187]

WTH? Out of the many photos of P, couldn't you find a better picture of Prince circa '78'79?? Gee whiz!

[@vontewilson5721]

Pepe willie co founder of the mpls sound do your self a favor from the 1999 deluxe is written by pepe yall better recognize

[@paulinecrystalline6125]

1:09:09

[@TheScripflipNetwork]

Everybody has a salty p story

[@cheboy]

💜🐾

[@mscapricorn-ce1pl]

He probably wanted to be alone because he was always around many people at work. Everyone needs alone/quiet time.

[@vivian6204]

So I don't believe that Morris Day stole any part of the movie Purple Rain from Prince at all. Morris was a clown and he made laugh, accept when he told Jerome to throw the woman in the trash dump. That was not funny. Also Prince wrote all the music and words that Morris Day sings in the film. Thank you Prince for your dreams. R.I.P. p.s Did Morris Day and the Time star in or write a movie at any time?

[@buddinganarchist]

The Twist was the first Jughead. Har..

[@vashtikelly6837]

EVERYBODY PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO PRINCE'S NOSE ON THIS PIC.....HE WOULD NEVER ADMIT THIS BUT HE HAD SOME WORK DONE ON HIS NOSE....MIKE WHEN YOU INTERVIEW, LET PIC CLIPS FROM THAT ERA ROLE IN HEAVY ROTATION ON SCREEN WHILE WE LISTEN......

[@misterwebb8564]

Yea I was thinking that a while ago. Definitely.

[@vashtikelly6837]

@AMERICAN KING YEAH I CAN SEE HIS JAW LINE IS DIFF.....

[@chica4530]

@AMERICAN KING I first met Prince in 1980 and he wasn't brown skinned, he was on the lighter tone with hazel eyes. Was around him many times throughout the years and His skin tone was the same. Look at his sister and Mom who are also fair skinned. I don't know about any facial surgery but I do know facial structure changes if you lose or gain weight, also your face structure changes as you mature. If he did have any cosmetic surgery he had a good surgeon unlike MJ. But let's stop the madness, lol.

[@natashajames1565]

@@chica4530 thank you exactly,I have gained weight and I look totally different.Than he wore make up.Make up makes you look totally different to.contouring ,celebrities been during this long before we knew what it was .We get darker in summer.Lighter in the winter.Some people don't believe this but its true.

[@natashajames1565]

@@chica4530 I know I don't look nothing like I did when I was younger.

[@thetruthhurtsu]

Now *THIS* was a great interview. Not like that whiny as crybaby Eric Leeds crying & sniffling like a big as baby because prince wasn’t nice to him one time. Pepe sounds like a super cool cat that you can trust. There aren’t many of them around in the biz left. Like a needle in a haystack trying to find one. Anyways good job on the interview and I wouldn’t mind a part2 of Pepe. He’s very informative and easy on the ears. 👍🏽

[@abrahamjackson6019]

I'm so glad you said that I thought I was the only person who felt Eric took things a little too personal

[@thetruthhurtsu]

@@abrahamjackson6019 there are a lot of people who thinks Eric Leeds is a stuck up whiny crybaby with a mind set from the back in the days but, people in prince circles tend to stick together and try their best only post positive glowing reviews about anyone in the prince camp but Prince should have gotten rid of Eric long ago! I saw an interview where Eric said that he introduced prince to Miles Davis Music LOL😂 prince’s dad was a jazz musician, I’d bet my life prince heard of Miles long before he ever met Eric.

[@abrahamjackson6019]

@@thetruthhurtsu Yeah, Eric introduced James Brown to Prince also, incredible....

[@thetruthhurtsu]

@@abrahamjackson6019 LOL😂

[@jamesway]

Too bad prince used this man like wet toilet paper and left him on the side of the road like many others.

[@wisdomseeker3362]

Morris Day did the same thing after all Pepe did for him too. Unreal how greedy they both were and maybe Prince knew the entire time how greedy Morris was. We all know Pepe didn't have to take the time out of his life to help /mentor any of them. It's a shame how people change and treat one another once the _evils_ of money waltzes in ❗🚫💰

[@roberthunter1220]

LOL!! The interviewer has no clue who Hubert Laws is in the music business:)

[@mdean]

Nope

[@MegaLittledoc]

@@mdean Flutist.....one of the best!

[@funkpill]

Brother of Ronnie Laws 😊

[@julienceaser]

Who the heck is Hubert Laws..? Sounds like the name of a lawyer who's got his own infomercial .." I may be a SOB but I'm your SOB!" ha.

[@akinayodele3055]

The Laws name is well respected within the industry.