Perennialism: The Last Temptation of History

[@GuitarJesse7]

Lord please bless and strengthen your precious people in Georgia. One of the wonderful things about becoming Orthodox for me has been discovering all these nations where the Church has had a presence for a long time, and in some cases is still very strong in certain areas.

[@mariami2670]

Thank you ❤ Christ bless you too

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

May the Orthodox stand strong preserving the faith onto the end. May we pray for those who have been infected by this heresy.

[@EvaAnagnostakos-b4l]

Fantastic Interview by Fr.Peter 5 Star Rating All Glory to God ☦️

[@Hope_Boat]

Ô Lord have mercy on us all sinners and protect your Church. Kyrie eleison ☦️

[@orthodoxboomergrandma3561]

I will watch again! We miss you Fr Peter!

[@NathanielBartholomew92]

☦️ Love these Georgian brothers ❤️

[@MrTerkoizzz]

Christ and His Church saved me from perennialism

[@stevanmarkovic9527]

When all truths appear to melt into one, ask what remains of their flame, for not all fires burn with the same light. God bless!

[@renatemocza7195]

I highly appreciate Your talk. Glory to God.

[@JulienBoeker]

i was exactly in that trap (one mountain many ways up) and then i asked god to show me the full truth and i became orthodox.

[@SuperMaxHODL79]

Thanks for sharing Father.

[@kumikomornigglory3878]

Fantastic interview! Thank you Father!

[@jessicabyrd9579]

Thanks for sharing! Hello everyone!

[@Yormanny]

Fr Peter can you please help me start my prayers towards saints and the theotokos I know it should be different to how I pray to God but I’m lost on where to start and what to include

[@thecrow4597]

Talking face to face with a local priest is the best way. He can guide you personally.

[@WithinandThroughout]

Don’t get overzealous man, stick to the path. Kindle your flame for God

[@littlefishbigmountain]

Also just get a good prayer book (not some super intensive monastic one, I found even the classic Jordanville to be very intense and that I was not there yet) and read it. Like the St. Tikhon’s Monastery Press OCA prayer book or smth. All that stuff’ll be in there.

[@backinmyrightmind]

Speak with your Priest!

[@cw4091]

The Jesus prayer is an excellent place to start.

[@danielokoth3265]

Am enlightened

[@sccpresident]

Thank you

[@unclev7075]

Just watched saint Gabriel video. 😊

[@amitrajsekhon4317]

love your pfp 😊

[@ebahapo]

Perennialism is but yet another form of New Age, gnostic ecumenism. Sadly, from his correspondence with perennialists, Fr. Seraphim Rose apparently never ceased to be one. In such letters, he referred to Orthodox Christianity as merely one tradition, yet another revelation. It made me understand his, o so Usonian, obsession with the End Times, which he solely referred to using the Hindu term Kaliyuga in those letters. More than the lack of the echo of the Holy Fathers, his writings surprised me by his implicitly perennialistic accent. Many of his writings are basically versions of "Crisis of the Modern World" and "Kingdom of Quantity and the Signs of the Times". A bad tree produces bad fruits and the apostasy of the Brotherhood of St. Herman is proof of this. Knowingly or not, Fr. Seraphim contributed to what he called the religion of the future, specifically of those who seek Holy Orthodoxy as the exoteric expression of their esoteric Perenialism.

[@paulr5246]

“Islam from the Orthodox perspective is a Christian Heresy.” Such a great truth. Does anyone have a good link or resource that can demonstrate this for others?

[@pah9730]

See St. John damascene

[@FatherGapon-gw6yo]

Hilaire Belloc-The Great Heresies

[@seeker2219]

I am longing to get into Orthodox church as a swede. If i can come to Orthodoxy, anyone can.

[@დიონისე]

❤❤❤❤

[@AlecMajerison]

☦️

[@IoanTeofil]

ECUMENISMUL, EREZIA EREZIILOR...

[@pumamountainlion7777]

🎉

[@noeldoyle4501]

Pope Francis, who is often dangerously unclear in many important statements has said that the PASSIVE will of God is that there be many religions, (God does not desire many religions but does passively accept them).

[@iguessihaveyoutube8911]

God doesn’t accept false teachings and teachers

[@TedBruckner]

I don't beleeve that what i commented. i.e., the perennial philosophy, but know their minds from seeing alot, and having seen alot. And so i added my comment on what the perennial philosophy boils down to, to augment Father Peter's great talk. I highly liked this video. /// მე არ ვთჳნაჳ რჲგა, კჲვრჲ თ ეა ჟვ ჟოჲმნწ. ანუ, მრავალწლიანი ფილოსოფია, მაგრამ იციან მათი გონება ბევრის ნახვისგან და ბევრი რამ უნახავს. ასე რომ, მე დავამატე ჩემი კომენტარი იმის შესახებ, თუ რას ადუღებს მრავალწლიანი ფილოსოფია, რათა გავზარდო მამა პეტრეს დიდი მოხსენება. ძალიან მომეწონა ეს ვიდეო.

[@LONESTARx51B]

I just joined the stream, what is the religion you guys are talking about?

[@Christianity_and_Perennialism]

The relationship between the world religions is analogous to the longitudal and latitudal lines of the globe. They intersect at the top and at the bottom, but there is a qualitative difference between north and south, even if they appear superficially the same. This is why the north, and the North Star, has had such an important symbolic role through all of history, and why even to this day the ‘global south’ is spoken of derisively by normies, because it represents chaos. The syncretic one world religion now being brought forth is the spiritual embodiment of this chaos appearing unified. The bottom is an inverted reflection of the top, and in the middle there is what appears to be an irreconcilable contradiction between the longitudes. This is the philosophical view within which religious exclusivism resides in, believing that they have a complete view, and citing the south (chaos) as their evidence that they are right, but with their backs turned to the true unity of the north.

[@iguessihaveyoutube8911]

No religion is the same

[@Christianity_and_Perennialism]

@@iguessihaveyoutube8911 nor are any two people the same. And yet, in the final calculation, we’re all equal.

[@iguessihaveyoutube8911]

@@Christianity_and_Perennialism People and religion aren’t the same in this context

[@Christianity_and_Perennialism]

@@iguessihaveyoutube8911yes, humans are bigger than religion. We witness religion; not the other way around.

[@dionemontgomery4133]

The Georgian Father and David look like identical twins

[@davidjincharadze473]

Yes, we are identical twins.

[@OrthodoxIslands]

Greetings, would love to see archbishop gregory from GOC of America channel on here 😊

[@pah9730]

Won’t happen

[@ValidityJ]

I can't understand how our Bishops dont under the damage they are doing. Does anybody read the bible anymore??

[@LONESTARx51B]

What is perranilism?

[@MiskeenKareem]

The idea of a common truth between all religions that unites them you will have to look into it more it's hard to explain because it's such a large concept.

[@MiskeenKareem]

Actually fr peter defines it in this

[@ebahapo]

Yet another New Age sect.

[@JanakaSuranga-we4qm]

Givisum athara jaasugaa naamayath samaga admgaa givisumaa prathama kathaava jaasu admgaa viyavsthaavata mwu kusakin ipadeema kala uthu bava sabaau manussayo veema kala uthu mai

[@elsoil3387]

If anyone is interested in how an Orthodox scholar of religion and also be a perennialist, look up the works and blog of James Cutsinger.

[@pah9730]

Unfortunately, he was not Orthodox. Not in real terms. Not faithful to the patristic tradition. Tragedy.

[@elsoil3387]

@@pah9730 what would that mean for him in terms of the afterlife, according to your tradition?

[@calebbrunson7120]

I actually go to the University of South Carolina where James was a professor of comparative religions for many years. I found Orthodoxy through Perennialism and studied the writings of Guenon and Schuon in particular. I thank God for delivering me from that ideology.

[@elsoil3387]

@@calebbrunson7120 So now you believe you have the One True Faith and everyone else is deluded? Serious question. I don't like how Schuon and other perennialists went to Islam, that doesn't seem to be digging for the truth rigidly enough. But I can say the same thing for Christianity too.

[@ebahapo]

Or Fr. Seraphim Rose, Jonathan Pageau, etc.

[@therighteousrighthand]

I hope all Christians unite as one Holy Catholic Church.

[@pah9730]

The Orthodox Church

[@therighteousrighthand]

@@pah9730 the orthodox is only a fraction of Catholic church...plus it allows married priests, 3 divorces which is wrong.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Apostle Peter was married. That is untrue. There are no three marriages. Read up on it. The marriage ceremony is never repeated again.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

There’s only one church. There can be only one church. One body of Christ. Christ is not divided. Orthodoxy is the church. It cannot be a part of the church.

[@therighteousrighthand]

@@OrthodoxEthos apostles Peter was married before he met Christ. Men whi are called by God after marriage are allowed to stay married in the Catholic Church.

[@elsoil3387]

You are doing a disservice to Christianity by continually claiming to be the "exclusive", one and only Truth. You are the ones, in fact, limiting God by saying He has only "one" way - your Orthodox way. You try to say that the the saints of every other tradition are inspired by "demons", yet they have just as many miracles, if not more, than your saints and probably more wisdom. You will call it "delusion" but anyone can say that about you too. Christianity has not proven itself to be the harbinger of peace it should have been. Yet, Buddhism tamed the Mongols and the Hindus have never attacked anyone. Dogma is tainting your views to the extent that you can't see reality - just as a Muslim thinks everything in the Qur'an and Hadiths is from God - so are you blinded by your own dogmatic beliefs; namely, that "salvation" can be achieved only by the way your theologians allow. Before the philosophical concept of the Logos (which Christianity took from Philo the Jew, who got it from Egypt), there was the Indian concept of "Aum" or "Om" - the first sound or movement from the Source; the "Word" of God which is also God; the "first born of the Virgin". Christianity also borrowed other aspects from other religions. Before the Eucharist was Apollo's Apples. What is so hard to understand - when Christ said "None get to the Father except through me", this was as the Logos - an idea pre-existing Christianity. From Justin Martyr: “And when we say also that the Word (Logos), who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all; Aesculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; and Perseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse Pegasus. For what shall I say of Ariadne, and those who, like her, have been declared to be set among the stars? And what of the emperors who die among yourselves, whom you deem worthy of deification, and in whose behalf you produce some one who swears he has seen the burning Caesar rise to heaven from the funeral pyre? And what kind of deeds are recorded of each of these reputed sons of Jupiter, it is needless to tell to those who already know. This only shall be said, that they are written for the advantage and encouragement of youthful scholars; for all reckon it an honourable thing to imitate the gods.” (― Justin Martyr, The First Apology of Justin Martyr, Addressed to the Emperor Antoninus Pius) Leave Jesus as that, a god and a great and worthy life to imitate that will enable one to reach Theosis. If this truth works for you, good for you. Why try to deprive other religions of their "paths up the mountain"? Your path is great, but so are theirs.

[@Hope_Boat]

Because there is salvation in no one else but Jesus Christ, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. Acts 4-12

[@elsoil3387]

@@Hope_Boat OK, so we have a saying from the book of Acts whose authorship is probably Luke, but some doubt that, written some decades after Christ - OR - we have the testimony from thousands of saints in traditions around the world who enter mystical experiences and tell us basically the same thing. This is the perennialism we are talking about. The core of mystical experiences are essentially the same. There are just different ways to get there. Jesus is one way. But there are other ways too.

[@Hope_Boat]

@@elsoil3387 the book of acts testified that the Apostles taught the same think as Jesus Christ did : “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Then you come 2000 years later and pretend your opinion worth's more that what was written by the disciples of Christ a few decades after the events. How arrogant. Kyrie eleison ☦

[@elsoil3387]

@@Hope_Boat Read my first comment above and how Justin Martyr understood the Logos. It is not about me, I am nothing. It is about being fair towards other traditions who also have holiness. Justin understood that it seems.

[@georgiosgerontas760]

@elsoil3387 .... you are just lying about the miracles , saint Nectarios , saint Marina , just two of the hundreds of orthodox saints , for example , have thousands of recorded miracles like Jesus did. *If you say that : '(other traditions) .... yet they have just as many miracles, if not more, than your saints '* , you have to prove it , so give some information about non orthodox miraculous saints , and if you do not find any , admit the truth , if you want to be true to your self.

[@GraceandTruth77]

Don't call anyone on earth Father, for one is your Father- God. The Lord Jesus Christ.

[@ebahapo]

Curious about how you call your progenitor… 😂

[@GraceandTruth77]

I did not have a father. This is what Jesus Christ said not me and Christ is God so it is better to obey God than man is it not.