American girl from Michigan grew up watching your shows. I would watch you on the Saturday PBS shows in afternoon. Anyhoot, now I am older and just live your nice voice and all your knowledge. You are a household name in Michigan. We know who you are. We just keep to ourselves and work hard. Planting and watching you is a perfect day for me!
@kellyk.38552 жыл бұрын
Same here...grew up watching him on PBS, lol
@elaineburnett52303 жыл бұрын
I love the vision of the deer reading the menu cards and emaiing their friends....🥴😀😊
@tigq14303 жыл бұрын
2021 - I was outside going over plans for a shaded area. I am convinced the KZbin is listening. This video showed up😳
@coro5993 жыл бұрын
They "are" listening and their reasoning is called ad revenue. Turn off your phone or set it in another room when you are thinking out loud or want a bit more privacy.
@jessewright32963 жыл бұрын
True. It picks up conversations and hrs later news items show up with the same topics that had recently been discussed!
@milesteg86272 жыл бұрын
@@jessewright3296 ever wondered how your battery goes down 13% before an hour of the day is passed? your phone is literally busy uploading data on you
@winnieo6837 Жыл бұрын
They do. Google - KZbin.
@meganwalker27 Жыл бұрын
2023 here, umm yep, but I appreciate it at this time only 😆
@markstevenson90804 жыл бұрын
When you have deer eating your favorite plants insert thin black metal poles connected with black string from which you hang bells. When the deer brush against the string as they lean down to eat or start to enter the garden bed, the bells ring which spooks the deer away.
@lindahandley52674 жыл бұрын
@Mark, I have deer tracks in my little vegetable garden. : ( They've been nibbling on my cucumber leaves. Every year my son plants purple-hull peas and deer have a feast. It's very disheartening! I'll tell him about the bells.
@lifeinseason3 жыл бұрын
How lovingly you talk about plants. Warms my heart to see other likeminded souls. 💚🌱
@williamflogel78914 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Smith! My husband and I live in a stone house built in 1856, on a small heavily wooded farm in the geologically gorgeous “Driftless Area” of Southwest Wisconsin. We adore your videos on KZbin, and we’re so proud of our whimsical woodland garden that you inspired us to build behind our home. It’s creating an oasis that has a dramatic impact on our mood and general well-being, and we’re so thankful for your inspiration and education! We dream of coming to see your farm some day. Love from Wisconsin, Willie & Rodney
@DSherman504 жыл бұрын
This man, P. Alan Smith has his garden, his entire empire in AR. This is definitely the place to visit and have lunch in Arkansas.
@dormetheus4 жыл бұрын
I live just around the lake from him. Planning a visit this spring!!
@lesliemiller68262 жыл бұрын
Michigan here…just plant 30 various types of hostas, 3 Salomon Seal and a handful of begonias for a pop of color. Also handed a plant I don’t have any experience with - a Cimicifuga ramosa Hillside Black Beauty Snakeroot. Excited to see this mature and blossom.
@vickiserre94573 жыл бұрын
My Mother turned me on to you with all your talent and knowledge. I'm retired and limited to gardening now but love to still watch and learn from you👏🏼👏🏼😻
@jeanlewis87602 жыл бұрын
Michigan born and raised 70yrs. Love to watch you
@pamelamattingly3781 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy and watching him for years. Glad to see him on utube!!
@terrymenz5838 Жыл бұрын
I have watched this video before, but it is worth listening to again to remind me of the variety of choices of shade plants. I have a good sized "hidden" shade garden I am trying to populate and reminders of shade, texture, and varieties of these plants is very helpful!
@lin2thez3414 жыл бұрын
Hello from SE PA. One of my favorite native ferns is the maidenhair. I planted a cinnamon fern about 15 years ago and it is quite magnificent now! I live pretty close to Longwood Gardens and Chanticleer in Wayne, both excellent sources for inspiration.
@shirley-BEE-Van-Life____3 жыл бұрын
You are funny! I thought i was the only one posting signs to the deer. “The neighbors yard has better tasting stuff to eat! Keep walking”😂😂😂
@bamabev794 жыл бұрын
I live in southern Alabama & am so happy I found your wonderful channel! You are a natural born teacher! I especially love your "9th grade humor"😀 We call those jokes "dad jokes" down here! Thank you so very much for sharing your wealth of botanical knowledge with us! I'm binge watching all of your videos & need to stop because I'm spending entirely too much money at our nurseries lately!😂
@tedscott14782 жыл бұрын
I think Halcyon is probably the bluest of all the hostas, it's a beauty. Hello, from Cornwall, England🙂
@PunkSlap5 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to like hostas and ferns more and incorporating them into the garden. I hope astilbe around to enjoy them for many years. Thank you from Illinois Zone 5.
@elaineteut65084 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, I have watched you for years on my local Iowa PBS channel. Nice to find you here. Your home and gardens are beautiful. Thank you for the garden tips.
@marykernodle66903 жыл бұрын
I live in Wisconsin, and have many Hostas planted all along our wooded area right behind our house. We often see deer feeding back there. I spray all my plants with the product Liquid Fence. I do spray often. Maybe every two weeks. But it doesn’t take long using an inexpensive pump pressure, continuous sprayer. Works well for me. For deer and rabbits.
@jesgreen11 ай бұрын
Moved to Michigan a year ago from Florida and fell in love with hostas. I'm planning out my garden for spring. Thank you for a wonderful video.
@leekilby94704 жыл бұрын
Hello from the north GA mountains. I’ve always enjoyed watching you, always learn so much! I have lots of shade, at various levels and I use texture and layering for effect. I transplanted Cinnamon ferns from my daughter’s property in Charleston SC and they are doing great; they are so architectural. Thriller, filler, spiller... love that!
@janiewilliams58033 жыл бұрын
A novice gardener from central Alabama....focusing on potted plants for the patio (which is part covered, part open, receiving morning sun.) Thank you for sharing....so much helpful info!
@cindyl39162 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness you made me laugh! I won’t be able to lose that vision...The Garden Salad Bar...lol! I moved to NE Oklahoma in 1994. I have to say this and I’ve lived all over..I have heard some of the best sayings from people in this part of the country. Thank you for teaching and sharing and inspiring .
@nancywoods78414 жыл бұрын
Just found this gentleman today. What a fount of information and he's entertaining as you go only. Very in depth but not overwhelming, just the right mix for me!
@pozzee28093 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Is there a group of ground covers that can spread but not choke other plants. I mean that the ground cover just happily grows around and through them without killing the other plants.
@paulademichele13133 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to you on PBS when I lived in Virginia. Just to add to your collection of states, I'm now in Vermont close to Lake Champlain, Zone 5/6. In my 50's I finally was able to have a real garden and ended up building shade rock gardens because I had to work with dry shade under large trees/semi-woodland area. Dry shade, especially clay soil, is really hard to deal with. Cinnamon fern worked for me, and heuchera and woolly thyme between stones, in ameliorated soil. And hosta of course. And native northeast woodland plants like arisaema, Solomon's Seal and Mayapple. Stone mulch (pea gravel) pulled it all together. For me the colors of perennials - like Johnson's Blue cranesbill - are more intense in the hours there are shade. Plus shade may allow you to grow mosses! Thank you for this program - I just found you on KZbin.
@morp30225 жыл бұрын
Mr. Smith, thank you from Indianapolis, Indiana. We have gained so much from you, and our plants thank you.
@buffholtman10 ай бұрын
I’m in Oregon. You were new to me two years ago. You have practical advice and beautiful designs! Thanks.
@pudgesmum15095 жыл бұрын
I'm a Hostacolic!!!! I have 14 different varieties and still looking for more!!! In the Buffalo- Niagara Falls area, our Buffalo Botanical Garden has a Hosta sale every year and I'm always amazed at finding new ones. Thanks for helping novices like me.
@francisc18543 жыл бұрын
Me too! I love hostas, I got to collect them all lol
@williamwaterford81143 жыл бұрын
This Dutch Garden has at least 440 varieties of Hosta. The owner is a Hostacolic too. He hangs them in trees because he does not know where else to put them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH_RammamdN1fMk
@williamwaterford81143 жыл бұрын
@@francisc1854 a clump of "hosta paying hands" gives a fantastic effect in a large pot on a high pedestal; 1,5 meters.
@francisc18543 жыл бұрын
@@williamwaterford8114 that’s an awesome garden I’d love to do one like it
@williamwaterford81143 жыл бұрын
@@francisc1854 do you have a garden, do you have hostas?
@lesleynicholls99304 жыл бұрын
I am watching from the UK these plants will work for me in the shady part of the garden, thanks for all the information great video. Lovely to hear you mention the RHS !
@trinidad24503 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched your program for years and years. I started watching your show on WTTW back when I lived in Chicago. Even though I lived in an appointment, I had dreams of having my own garden one day. Well now, I live in Southern California and I have a garden out back and in the front. So Allen, you now have your long-time fan who is both from Illinois and California!❤️❤️
@verablack68545 жыл бұрын
I personally am not particularly fond of Hostas either! And they are always the number one suggestion for shade gardening. I love that you had so many others to suggest. I have planted Astilbe in the corners of my shade garden, and have been collecting Hellebore this year and I am in love. Greetings from this Nepenthes grower in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee!
@lindaleesmithbryson6932 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. I am sorry about your loss. I am glad you have this video what a treasure.
@erincarpenter45084 жыл бұрын
I found this very inspiring . Ive been planning my next years plans in the gardens as a way to pass the winter.
@fhewes77734 жыл бұрын
I have watched you on TV and now watch you on videos❣️ You definitely know your plants👨🏫❣️ Thank you so much for all of the knowledge that I have collected from you that has helped me with all of my beautiful plants❣️🌹❣️
@PAllenSmith4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! 💚
@songbirdnabors74003 жыл бұрын
Thank you P. Allen Been watching you a very long time!💖
@amandakozlowski-ghettas95155 жыл бұрын
I planted creeping Jenny in containers years ago and it crept right out of the pot and into my lawn. I actually like it as a ground cover but word of warning to others who would not want it on the lawn, trim it before it sets roots!
@Tinyteacher11112 жыл бұрын
Yipes!
@elizabethbarberis99578 ай бұрын
I was going to mention creeping Jenny. Thought it was great it escaped a pot and survived my zone 5 winter. This year I'm taking out as much as I can and hope I didn't introduce a thug into the garden. 😮
@countrygalinthecity3 жыл бұрын
Ohio here! 🙋♀️. I've had herb and medicinal gardens, and I have become inspired over the winter to bring them all together as a huge cottage garden ...most my front yard is shade ( some morning light and dappled throughout). I've planted hostas, heuchera, foxglove, hydrangea, rodadendrum a lot of others.. I have been coming home from work straight in to planting and making paths...its turning out so beautiful! I am so encouraged by the you tubers I've been watching! Thank you so much for information!
@lynnpratt3394 жыл бұрын
My cure for deer here in Wa State is my little red cattle dog Stella. She runs everything off :)
@maryiorio4263 жыл бұрын
The deer in my Michigan neighborhood feast on the hostas in the middle of the night when we and our dog are asleep! Otherwise our little Lhasa Apso tells them firmly to stay out!
@mjinba073 жыл бұрын
Oh, maybe you'd be willing to rent out Stella then?
@onesunnyday56994 жыл бұрын
Iowa here. Just got done planting a lot of sun lovers. But I LOVE hostas, ferns & lily of the valley
@mariomarcial28314 жыл бұрын
I am from the Philippines and I love your channel very much. Lots of knowledge and information. Thank you.
@susanlocklear24682 жыл бұрын
Hello from North Carolina, I am in zone 8a tooo!!! I love your info for the shade plants, I struggle every year with what to plant in the large pots on my porch, I did do creeping Jenny in there last year, it done great, and I also did the hostas, but I moved them outside, I done elephant ears in them once and they got to large, so I moved them to, so here I am again trying to figure it out..... Thank you for these type of videos I sure need them. .
@reginacorreira3805 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Cape Cod. Thank you for your garden teaching, my neighbors love my beautiful yard! Have yourself an WONDERFUL day!❤❤❤
@anns88933 жыл бұрын
We had ajudca that was a burgundy/brown with purple flowers. It was planted in full sun south facing and it multiplied horribly. We didn't plant but previous homeowners did. It smoothered out weeds but tried taking over the garden and lawn. Thank you for information on shade loving plants.
@hikarichan59114 жыл бұрын
Michigan here! Your videos are so wonderfully informative! We counted ten deer hanging out on the farm this Spring, about double our usual number. I don't know if it will work with so many deer, but what I usually do is grate up a couple of bars of Irish Spring soap and sprinkle it around the garden fence edges and hosta; once in Spring and once again in Summer. Apparently the deer dislike the scent because they stay away from it. I only have 4ft and 5ft fences, so the fence is not much of a deterrent for deer. I also like to use the lightweight foil holiday streamers/flag/pennants because they constantly move with any breeze and flash any light source, day or night and make a slight noise. I believe both help deter deer a great deal. Before I did these things they would decimate my vegetable gardens. I still see deer and tracks all around the farm but they avoid the gardens as do the rabbits. Thank you for the videos!
@dawn80805 жыл бұрын
This could not have been posted at a more opportune moment! I plan on planting up a shaded area behind my house and need some inspiration. Greetings from Norway
@PK-bh1ww4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a hosta fan but did acquire some free from the neighbors ad use them as a filler. They're green with white edges. I moved and brought them with me and they've multiplied quite well. I snap off the flowers as I'm not fond of them. They do draw slugs so I don't use them among other plants. Coleus are my favorite shade plant. They fill out nice and make a great filler too. And you can use them in pots too! Creeping Jenny is great but you have to keep an eye in it. It can get out f hand and grow where you don't want it to.
@karenlehn23512 жыл бұрын
Minnesota does warm up,and boy we have some beautiful gardens here!
@MsFranF4 жыл бұрын
Michigan here! Love, love, love you and your show!
@PAllenSmith4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@franceslyman6790 Жыл бұрын
Allen, I have always loved listening to and watching you in the early Year and here you are still teaching us planting and landscaping. Yes! I’m from the “show me State” Missouri near Gilbert H wild. Thank you for everything you do and encouraging us along🙏🏼
@saraw85032 жыл бұрын
Coastal NC, also 8a. I now have a shade area under a huge holly that was leaned over by hurricane Florence in 2018. I am currently planting shade plants. My order from Gilbert Wild and Sons came today…sweet woodruff. I have planted ligularia, acanthus, hydrangea, anemone. I have toad lily in a different area. I NEED more and must add epimedium.
@kellyhipkins56164 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing from OHIO I watch you on tv as well your great !
@richoneplanet756111 ай бұрын
Cream edge colored hosta is gorgeous - favorites 👍
@alaskalandscape3 жыл бұрын
Tuning in from Alaska. We have no deer in the area from Anchorage to the north. We do have very aggressive moose and without fencing, I suggest Plant Skydd applied both spring and fall as well as during the summer as we try to identify their path. We dot the spruce and birch overgrowth or around ponds, beds and containers. We grow many ferns up here and I am interested in the vareities you discussed. Thank you for all you do and these inspiring videos.
@cfoster78673 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your show. I Perennials. I am living in MARYLAND and the front of my house has alot of shades in the morning so I don't have much plants outside except the lillies. I try to plant vegetables at thd back because I have a good amount of sun at the back. I await some ideas. Love 💘 your show.
@carolmelancon4 жыл бұрын
The elephant ears "point" toward the water source they can tolerate - up for rain, or down if they don't mind wet feet.
@caroct1344 жыл бұрын
From California, lived in the South for 20 years and I fell in love with hydrangeas and hostas. Finally, created a shady spot in my garden to plant both!! I love your content. Thank you for sharing great informative how to’s for this budding gardener.
@sweetsista31614 жыл бұрын
This was most helpful for a beginner gardener here in Montana, zone 4. I have a lot of shade and now, I have more ideas of what plants would do best for these areas. I’ll share my pictures once spring comes to show my results. This was extremely helpful. Thank you so much!
@michaeldimartino85152 жыл бұрын
My go-to ground cover is pachysandra. It grows under my black maple very well. I've got pachysandra mixed in with ferns and hostas.
@organic32803 жыл бұрын
Hello from Elgin, Il. !!! Just starting tuning into your videos, P. Allen Smith. Your expert knowledge, experience and great down-to-earth teaching ability make your videos a pleasure to learn from. I know you're "down South", but thank you for teaching us "Northeners" too. I'm learning so much! Your gardening videos are the best in my humble opinion.
@LaoSoftware5 жыл бұрын
I want a garden just like you. It's so relaxing and peaceful after a long day at work.
@EmpressKathy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on horticulture! You have expanded my ideas on how to deal with my shady wall. There are so many plants in the garden center that I don’t know what to buy that will work best for me.
@sweetsista31614 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful and educational for a beginner gardener. I’m in Montana, zone 4. I have a lot of shady areas. I now know what I can plant for a beautiful garden. Thank you so much for a great presentation.
@lorraineblackwell930 Жыл бұрын
Always such a wonderfully informed session.
@catherinegooch44324 жыл бұрын
I am from Michigan, and I like your program. I like flowering gardening, and your information was helpful.
@hollynelson5434 жыл бұрын
S___ is really hitting the fan here now in Michigan. Nice to watch our KZbin friends. Also prayers to all those still working out there. Stay safe❤
@peneloperoberts95842 жыл бұрын
Thank you for steering me down the garden path with shade tolerant plants. I am in Zone 8a & 8b and have a front entry that is in constant shade. Oh boy heuchera hostas here I come!
@archerj473 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am from Georgia, USA, so glad i found you , been wanting to learn about plants for shaded areas...my yard is mostly shaded....so excited.
@AJsGreenThumbLLC4 жыл бұрын
Love the content in this VLOG! I recently moved to a larger property with a woodland out back and I am enamored and immersed into shade gardening possibilities and techniques. I love it! The possibilities are endless. Thank you
@craigchingren-hamann97003 жыл бұрын
From Omaha, NE here - have always loved your shows. Glad to have found your KZbin channel!
@thelistener9196 Жыл бұрын
Have always enjoyed your educational blog. Must comment, you have increased in good looks as years have passed. Two lovely reasons to watch your presentations. Watching from New Jersey. Regards
@heathermacdonald64044 жыл бұрын
You've got fans in Canada too! :)
@laurieevery9585 жыл бұрын
I am from Wisconsin. I learn so much from your videos. You are helping me transform my gardens. Thank you!
@anya2295 жыл бұрын
Quebec Canada here! Great shows - beautiful and informative!
@darylgud76015 жыл бұрын
I have a north facing house in Utah, with a porch entry way. One of the plants that has done good for me is Uanamous, with a deep green and yellow leaf. It has thrived for years, Dianthis and Primerose has done pretty good for a few years, and of course a hosta. Just some ideas.
@sheilailles98644 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the new info from BC, Canada
@Tinyteacher11112 жыл бұрын
A woman from Michigan is just beginning to watch you, because I didn’t have a yard AND You Tube at the same time! Now I do, but I’d rather watch the videos and dream of what it would look like if I felt well enough to plant and tend them.
@vannee24264 ай бұрын
2024 i just found this channel from suburbs Illinois this is so useful thank you❤ I have a huge yard with three big trees a lot of shade this is so so so useful thank you thank you ❤
@margaretchiodo-keller4495 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a wonderful video. I learned alot, and will definitely be adding more plants to my 4 different gardens this coming Spring. I am considering trying my hand at an Elephant Ear, and also adding more ferns to my zone 7a garden (Suburbs of Philadelphia, PA).
@theplantninja-texasgardener2 жыл бұрын
Just here to say how much I’ve enjoyed binging my favorite gardener on KZbin! Greetings from central Texas!
@juliaconnolly35952 жыл бұрын
Gresham, OR here, Pacific Northwest with harsh east winds from the Columbia River. Love Hostas, ferns Hutcherson.
@kevinkimble28192 жыл бұрын
Have a great day. This video was fantastic. Thanks
@artsyladie74 жыл бұрын
Hello from north western Oregon! Glad to learn more about these plants because as my yard matures it is getting more dappled or partial shade!
@andrewwallace79595 жыл бұрын
Hello from Asheville, NC. Zone 7a. Thank you for all the wonderful garden wisdom! I love foxglove but I do think it’s toxicity is always worth mentioning. In low doses it is a medicine - digoxin - but even a small amount of plant matter can be lethal to pets or others that ingest it. That’s why the deer leave it alone.
@growinggreenplants64783 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm in Chicago Illinois and I enjoyed watching your video. I have a shade are in my backyard that I need to tackle and your video has been helpful. Thanks
@gardengypsy70 Жыл бұрын
This is so good I’m sorry I didn’t see it sooner wish I had resources as to where some of these were purchased!!!!
@kayerobertson28474 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of shade. I am planning on trying the toad lilies. Thanks for the tips! Also I have a friend that likes to garden and she also has a lot of deer that eat everything she plants! She has put in motion activated water shooters that have worked wonders. She can now enjoy her gardens again with no harm to the deer.
@sandrajohnson99263 жыл бұрын
My toad Liles are growing in sun just behind a clematis. They are in moist cool soil.
@reglindiseckhardt97775 жыл бұрын
I am not able to use most of the plants you do outside because I am in zone 3a technically (Edmonton Alberta, Canada). However, you present so many ideas ... the why you plant things a certain way ... that I always come away inspired. Thanks.
@marymorris28234 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching us how to do so many things. - North Carolina
@jimblair77243 жыл бұрын
Thank you , i admire your knowledge and love for Plants and design , Thank You
@susanpremo80684 жыл бұрын
I'm from Minnesota and love shade gardening, I used to have a huge ash tree, but we had straight line winds take it down. But, I still have enough shade to plant mostly wildflowers. Spring is my favorite time of year, so many wild flowers! Been watching you since pbs had your show, really nice to see you.
@PAllenSmith4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Be sure to subscribe to the channel!
@JodieLang-LHR3 жыл бұрын
From hot, dry, windy or cold Santa Ynez, California! Than you for sharing your knowledge so graciously 🌿
@marthaannaszczerba81694 жыл бұрын
Hi. I’m from Wilmington Delaware and I learned of your horticulture expertise from my husband who has been your driver when you visit Winterthur. Love learning from you.
@ParteeDowne5 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact about Fiddle-heads, they are a local favourite dish, cooked in butter on the frying pan in the city of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Who would have thought! - Toronto, Ontario
@PAllenSmith5 жыл бұрын
+ParteeDowne 💚😋
@nataliespencer13244 жыл бұрын
I liked to pick them when I was a child but I will NOT eat them! My family boils them and some like to add vinegar. New Brunswick, Canada.
@rhondapelletier21413 жыл бұрын
Remember picking fiddleheads here in Connecticut USA, LOL with my parents as a young child. One time I went to pick up a fiddlehead and I picked up a garden snake! LOL
@barbarafaulder90879 ай бұрын
Also in Alaska. Yummy😊
@eleanorwhelan11424 жыл бұрын
Hi Allen I'm living in Ireland and love your posts Our weather is very different to yours but your tips and information apply to all Thank you Eleanor
@tremme57023 жыл бұрын
Ajuga has jumped from my bed to my grass and is taking over. The good news is it is great in the shadier areas where the grass struggles. I definitely have a blended lawn now though.
@debrabrown89015 жыл бұрын
Atlanta, GA area is where I live. Hostas do well here in a mix of shade and sun. Ferns do grow here mainly in woodland areas. Ferns do not like direct sunlight. Creeping Jenny is very easy to grow and looks very pretty in a tall pot where it can grow trailing down the side. I prefer perennials over annuals. Some varieties of Daisy are also perennials and do well here.
@latinaalma19474 жыл бұрын
British gardens esp the great houses, Kensington, Sissingnurst etc use color so strikingly...chartreuse again st purples, lots of contrast in shapes, textures but my admiration is for their bold use of color brightening shades areas.
@jessi3305 жыл бұрын
Omaha, NE zone 5. I just love using ajuga as a pretty groundcover. Stays very low. For contrast I use lamium Orchid Frost but it tends to get a bit high at 8-10". I just clip it back. Pachysandra and sweet woodruff are also great. I just found variegated pachysandra. Variegated Solomon's seal and don't forget ginger!