Perfect Shot Espresso with Delonghi Dedica EC685 & Graef Cm702 bottomless portafilter

[@el_chapino]

Is your grinder set up at 14 or what number do you use for the dedica?

[@Hypocrisybuster1]

DeLong Dedica comes with 51 mm portafilter bottomless or the other one. Please explain to me and everyone fir their benefits as to how you filled it with 17 g coffee. That's impossible. Please do not mislead people. The maximum a 51 mm Delknghi Deduca bottomless portafilter can take is 14 grams coffee.

[@MikeSW.]

Hey I have a Joe Frex 51mm portafilter for the dedica but it only takes up to 15 grams with the current grind setting without choking. If I grind coarser to fit 17g it's really sour. I've experimented a lot and in order to get a nice sweet and complex cup of specialty espresso I have to grind really fine and fit 15g tops.

[@felixal]

hello carter nice video. I can highly recommend a 15.5 or 16g to 33g ratio for this little machine. maybe you would like it too. best regards felix!

[@didyoufalloristhatart]

Thank you for the video, really helpful! :) Just one question: which temperature setting are you using to make your espresso? Medium or high? Many thanks! :)

[@od1286]

Hi there, we adjust the water temperature to medium or high depending the beans. In this video we set up the temperature to medium.Hope it helps 😊

[@didyoufalloristhatart]

Yes it definitely helps! :) Thank you very much for your answer! :)

[@hizamshahrusmi]

Great video mate, are you using double cup button & let the machine run? Or did you manually stop the button to achieve the 2oz espresso?

[@od1286]

Hi there, I didn’t stop the machine, but I did setup the desired I need.

[@fotis6506]

hi from greece! love your videos and i like that are shot in 4k ! i just bought the dedica and same bottom less portafilter and tamper. in graef have you put inside the extra washers? and in what number is your coffe cut? are you happy with this grinder? keep up the good job! and

[@od1286]

@Fotos650 Hi there, thank you very much for liking our video. 😁 for the Graef grinder we didn't add any ring or did any modification, we use the finest setting and we are very satisfied. Wish you all the best with your new machine. 😊

[@nklds8910]

Φίλε μπορείς να μου πεις που μπορώ να βρω το bottomless portafilter σαν το δικό σου ; έχει εξαντληθεί στο αμαζον..

[@elite2freak10]

@@nklds8910 υπαρχει στο aliexpress το παρήγγειλα κ εγω πριν καμμια εβδομάδα...

[@JEArellano]

Hi there. we have the same grinder, and machine can i ask what number did you set the grinder and did you use the extra washer?

[@od1286]

I use the fine to grind the coffee

[@ryanrobertkane]

Amazing! I have the same machine, same portfailter but my shots are pulling way too fast. I tried grinding my own (on finest setting) and buying more ground for espresso, but still reaching 40g in roughly 12seconds. I’m using a distributor and a proper tamper. Any tips?

[@od1286]

@ryan Kane hi there , for the extraction you could try to use between 16 to 18 grams of coffee for a double basket, grind it thinner(some grinder the finest setting maybe not fine enough), adjust the water temperature to medium or high depending on your coffee, strongly tamp and use as fresh as possible beans. The extraction should take between 25 to 35 seconds for 2oz(60ml) of espresso. Hope it helps.😊

[@ruinerblodsinn6648]

@@od1286 how do you adjust the water temperature?

[@od1286]

@@ruinerblodsinn6648 Hi there , here is a link about how to program water temperature ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/nouVlKmLo7Cnh5o ). Hope it helps.

[@schneefritz]

Did you purge the grinder? Emptying it all the way and then only adding only the grams of beans you are going to use to make a shot?

[@kasperkorea]

I am a coffee newbie with an almost identical setup to yours. Same scale, same handle (but with a 15 gb portafilter from aliexpress), same machine. To my understanding, the most common way to measure espresso dose is gram to gram. 18g of dry beans = 36g of liquid espresso. I noticed that you chance it to ounce though. The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing some difficulties getting my shots right. I'm using a top-notch 1Zpresso JX pro to dial in my grind size. I am now in the lower end of the recommended espresso range and the Dedica can just about output a consistent single stream of coffee. However, at finer grind sizes it starts chocking. Still, after having used a distributor and a light tamping, I am getting an output of 60g of liquid espresso, in 25 seconds from first droplet from a 15g dry coffee dose. I cannot seem to locate where the issue might originate. Of course, I am doing something wrong - or my machine is defect, or the portafilter that came with my aliexpress handle is crap.

[@od1286]

@Kasper Miller Hi there, we think the problem may not be the coffee machine or the portafilter, maybe the reason why it chocked is that this coffee machine can’t take coffee which has been ground too fine (for the Graef cm702 we suggest using the fine setting) it all depends on your grinder, just keep trying different grinding settings and you will get the results you are after. Wish all the best.☺️

[@liuwenlong6992]

Also to mention the grind size is also related to the freshness and roast level of the beans.

[@game_channel1998]

2 oz is it 60 ml? Is it double espresso (doppio), yes?

[@tamasbardy588]

Hi! I love your videos, thanks for making them :) they help a lot on my journey with the dedica. One question, what scale are you using?

[@od1286]

@Tamás Bárdy Hi there, it’s good to know you are enjoying our channel, we are really glad to be of help. Here’s a link to where you could get the scale from with the model details amzn.to/2QT8Xzw We wish you all the best . 😊

[@tamasbardy588]

@@od1286 thank you for the reply! I think I managed to find the same scale in Singapore, though there’s is no brand mentioned anywhere but the look is identical. I noticed you removed the silicone mat from it when you placed it below the Dedica. Do you find that it improved the stability of the scale sensor?

[@od1286]

@Tamás Bárdy Hi there again, don’t worry if you remove the silicone mat, it still will be accurate. Sorry for the late reply. Have a nice day.😊

[@qwerasdf686]

Did u modified your grinder or its stock? Which settings of grinding do u use full left to fine?

[@od1286]

Yes all the way to the fine

[@patrickpieroggo3968]

Cool video! I have the same setup except for the mill. My Portafilter always explodes and unfortunately I still have a little channeling...

[@od1286]

@Patrick Pieroggo, Hi there We try to avoid channeling by adjusting the grinding settings, the amount of coffee we use and the tamping pressure. We also found out that distributing the coffee evenly within the portafilter avoids air pockets and prevents channeling.Hope to be of help!hope with time you can get the better results.

[@od1286]

Just keep trying

[@uranniusdavis7777]

That's awesome video awesome guys love your videos just out my machine 2 days ago trying to learn how to get the hot temperature heart and still trying to learn how to use to Wind If you have any tips please let me know

[@od1286]

@urannius davis, thank you for watching. We will soon post a video on how to adjust the temperature. Enjoy your new machine .😀

[@olegdenisov7446]

Не могу переводить текст, не копирует телефон текст. :)

[@barakaldabous7828]

What water hardness setting do you use? Low, Medium, or High? Thanks!

[@zhap053]

The k you for the video. Are you making a custom time with the machine or using the presets?

[@od1286]

@Luca Charalambides Hi there, we are using the the custom time in tis video. 😁

[@uncruckus9345]

Great stuff. What temperature did you set your Delong to

[@od1286]

@Unc Ruckus Hi there, we are using the high temperature setting.☺️

[@uncruckus9345]

@@od1286 thank you, I will try it

[@Alberto_Tacco]

the Graef Cm702 grinder has clearly been modified. Right?

[@od1286]

Hi there I didn't modify the machine.

[@KonGab03]

how fast does the grinder grind the 17g of beans?

[@thomasdezimmeur6080]

hi! Perfect ! this video makes me dream! I have a question: I see some users who add washers to grind finer, is this mandatory or do you use the factory settings? I have the same machine but not yet bottomless and I would like to buy a used CM702 sorry for the translate, I'm french :)

[@H98U52]

I added additional washers to grind finer. For espresso it was to coarse with the factory settings. Now it works well 🙂

[@moodyluky]

I am having the same machine, same grinder but I cant get any good results with the same settings. I bought a lot of coffee (fresh) and wasted to do some research and my machine always gets choked. :( It starts to do something around 13-15 grinder settings but still nothing good is coming out. I have darker roasted coffee, I am using tamper... What do you think I should change to get a better results?

[@andymenga4237]

Hi there, cool short clip. Got two Questions, 1. Are you using a single or double cup non-pressurize basket? If you're using the double one, are you using the double shot setting? 2. Is the Graef grinder that you're using makes good espresso shots?

[@od1286]

@Andy Menga Hi there, we are using the doble shot basket and the double shot bottom. The Graef grinder is pretty good for this coffee machine to making the espresso. Hope it helps.😁

[@mikkelchristensen2528]

What would the amount of ground coffee and timing be with the pressuarized portafilter that comes with the machine? I tried and bought the portafilter you have, and have the exact setup, but I can not get a good shot out ☁️☺️

[@od1286]

Mikeles Christensen hi there , for the extraction you could try to use between 16 to 18 grams of coffee for a double basket, grind it thinner, adjust the water temperature to medium or high depending on your coffee, strongly tamp and use as fresh as possible beans. The extraction should take between 25 to 35 seconds for 2oz of espresso. For the pressurized when we have more information will update to you.Hope it helps.😊

[@jordanpengelly95]

Hi, did you set your espresso maker to 30 seconds? Mine comes out too quickly and fills my espresso cup within 5 seconds. Its got creme but is very bitter and a bit watery too.

[@od1286]

Hi there, I think the problem with your coffee maybe is you need too add more coffee ( about 16g to 18g for the double shot)or need to make your coffee finer. Hope it helps.

[@pcrate20]

hi, can you post a link for the bottomless portafilter, thank you

[@od1286]

Hi there, here are the link for the bottomless portafilter amzn.to/349rjzb a.aliexpress.com/_mMZ6b1t . Hope it helps.

[@JokerJunior10]

Did you program the water amount prior to this? If so with or without the portafilter?

[@od1286]

Hi there, with the portafilter and coffee. Have a great year.

[@يومياتمبتعثه-ل1ل]

Do you recommend this grinder? Does the grinder provide an espresso fine grind

[@od1286]

Hi there,the one we have is not an expensive one (around 100€) but it does an excellent job. Hope to be of help!

[@edisigenius]

Suddenly Oz!? come on man

[@nickobustamante5382]

Hi just had my delonghi dedica EC685 espresso machine.. And I can only put 10g (11g) max on my portafilter and getting quite more that twice the yield.. What should I adjust? Or should I change my porta filter? Thank you in advance 🙏🙂

[@od1286]

@Nicko Bustamante Hi there, the two baskets that came with the machine can only fit up to approximately 11g of coffee maximum. You may consider modifying your current portafilter and buying a bigger basket or getting a new non pressurized portafilter that will already come with a larger basket. Good luck 👍

[@nickobustamante5382]

@@od1286 thank you so much already order my basket😁

[@Hypocrisybuster1]

DeLong Dedica comes with 51 mm portafilter bottomless or the other one. Please explain to me and everyone fir their benefits as to how you filled it with 17 g coffee. That's impossible. Please do not mislead people. The maximum a 51 mm Delknghi Deduca bottomless portafilter can take is 14 grams coffee.

[@schneefritz]

Which grinder setting did you use on the graef?

[@od1286]

Hi there, the finest setting

[@schneefritz]

@@od1286 i have the same grinder and the same machine yet mine cannot extract anything finer than the grind setting 15. Strange!

[@od1286]

Hi there,maybe you your grinder is not will set up , try to remove it all and put it again.

[@GandalftheGrey19880]

Do you change something at the grinder in interior?

[@od1286]

@Imagiarium Veec Hi there, we haven't added or removed any distance ring to our grinder, we use it as it came. We grind to the finest setting. Yes is pretty good for making the espresso.Hope it helps. 😊

[@alexd.5251]

Why always like use your fingers to tamp The coffee?

[@dc8povi]

What settings have you used for the grinder ?

[@od1286]

@dc8povi Hi there, We used the finest setting. Hope it helps. 😊

[@Casini1]

is there a way to use bottomless with ese pods ??

[@od1286]

@Francesco Hi there, we think the ese pods can't be used with the bottomless basket. Sorry can't help you with this .😆

[@Casini1]

@@od1286 thanks for your answer

[@anthonyconstanti158]

I have the exact same set up, what grind number do you use Thank you

[@od1286]

@Anthony Constanti Hi there, we use the finest grinding setting. Hope it helps. 😊

[@anthonyconstanti158]

@@od1286 thank you so much for your reply, I find on the number 1 setting it takes a while to grind

[@od1286]

@Anthony Constanti it could be the beans are not fresh enough, try to use the fresh beans and you will notice the difference. Hope it helps 😊

[@spartacusorthodox7022]

@@od1286 hi great video but what is the finest setting tell me which number to put the grinder please

[@od1286]

@@spartacusorthodox7022 Hi there , you can see that there is the word “fine” written on the machine next to the number 1. That is the setting that I chose. . Thank you, you liking our video, Hope it helps.☺️

[@SANDOROSAN]

You do not show when tamping, that is the problem I have. This morning I have got 22 ml in 12 seconds with 12 coffee grams

[@od1286]

@SANDOROSAN Hi there here have a video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ_Xap6Kr5Jrg68 )where we show how we tamp. Hope it helps.☺️

[@miked9105]

Hello there, thanks for this amazing videos and shots I enjoy them every time I see them. I would like to ask you something. I am using exactly the same setup as you, the only different thing about my setup is the Graef model. I am using the CM800 and the coffee beans are the LAVAZA ORO. I am grinding 16 grams of the beans every time because I am using also the same scale. The Problem is that I never have managed to make a good shot of espresso. The timing its like 15 to 17 seconds and I cannot grind the coffee finer. It looks that I have too much pressure or something. So is the coffee beans the Problem? thanks in advance!

[@od1286]

@Mike D Hi there, thank you, you enjoyed our video. For the crema you could try to use between 16 to 18 grams of coffee for a double basket, grind it thinner, adjust the water temperature to medium or high depending your coffee , strongly tamp and use as fresh as possible beans. The extraction should take between 25 to 35 seconds for 2oz of espresso. Hope it helps 😊

[@miked9105]

@Te & Gab's Retreat Hello mate, thanks a lot for your answer. I managed to find the solution to this problem. Maybe the solution that I found would help also other people with the same Graef CM800 grinder. If you open the CM 800 you will see something like a small basket inside. If you check it it says "FINE & COARSE". This little basket is scalable. If you take a screw driver and you change the position to left side (where it says FINE), then you can grind the coffee even finer. So the problem was from the beginning the grinder. I did not knew that you can also change the position from this basket inside. it follows a picture of it: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71bXKVMmbPL._AC_SL1500_.jpg After i scaled some teeth to the left I managed to make almost the perfect espresso with this machine and this coffee beans. I say almost perfect because I think I can also archive better results. Lavaza ORO - 16.5 grams with CE685 and the bottomless portafilter ( 33-34 grams in 25-26 seconds) I must also admit that the coffee smells and tastes very differently. I was so many months blind folded with the default pressurized portafilter and the grind settings. Thanks a lot mate.

[@od1286]

@Mike D We are very glad you achieved the results you want and thank you very much for sharing with us. Wish you all the best 👍. 😄

[@memocomander]

I have exactly the same equipment as you. I have the grinder on number 14 with the two washers. What size furniture do you have so that it turns out so well? congratulations on the videos

[@od1286]

@bytes Hi there, we haven't added or removed any distance ring to our grinder, we use it as it came. We grind to the finest setting. For the crema you could try to use between 16 to 18 grams of coffee for a double basket, grind it thinner, adjust the water temperature to medium or high depending your coffee , strongly tamp and use as fresh as possible beans. The extraction should take between 25 to 35 seconds for 2oz of espresso. Hope it helps 😊 Thank you for liking our video.

[@rakan4623]

@@od1286 what grade of grind did you use?

[@od1286]

@@rakan4623 hi there I use the fine setting, hope it helps . 😊

[@rakan4623]

@@od1286 I wish I could get a number to try my friend😊.

[@od1286]

@@rakan4623 hi there again I use the setting number 1

[@thomassmart8403]

Nice vid. I saw those scales online as a decent budget scale. I'm reallt surprised that they fit on the Dedica base. Do you have any issues with accuracy when citing them on the Dedica?

[@od1286]

@Thomas Smart, Hi there, this scales is perfect size for the Delonghi Dedica and when it sitting on the dedica is very accuracy. Hope it helps.😊

[@MacGyverMenu]

May I ask you to provide a link to the scale? Thanks in advance!

[@kerembabalk816]

Hi, I have same cm702 and ec685 but I could not make an espresso with pressurized portafilter in grind size 15. Is it normal or my delonghi is not working well?

[@HighWays111]

@@kerembabalk816 Hi I just had the Same Problem With my dedica. Try to use less coffe and it should be fine. I use 12gr. in a 1/2,5 ratio. As the dedica has a 51 mm Filter it really isnt meant for Double shots.

[@olegdenisov7446]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥👍☕☕☕

[@gordanbabic8028]

ristretto :)

[@bbr9945]

what what what wtff no that's not a ristretto

[@gordanbabic8028]

@@bbr9945 OK so I confused 2.0 OZ on the scale with 20 grams. them americans with their imperial measures ... confusing the rest of the world ...

[@bbr9945]

@@gordanbabic8028 Yee These are 60 mls in 30 seks Thats more a coffee cream than a esspresso lol

[@game_channel1998]

@@bbr9945 this is a double espresso (doppio) 60 ml.