Perfecting Minecraft's combat [OUTDATED WILL UPDATE]

[@igneo220]

Idk why but I feel like I should point out that I was able to sneak in a very poorly drawn skill curve in ms paint and literally no one cared

[@Poyo3D]

Because you're just goated at drawing

[@igneo220]

@Poyo3D hottest skill curve ever drawn lmao

[@Verosityed]

I've played on servers with the Simple Swords mod and there is one major issue with it in Multiplayer combat. Runics weapons and Unique weapons like the Soulpire have a freeze ablity. This ablilty is extremly unfun to play against since you can constantly be frozen without a clear way to escape.

[@igneo220]

interesting, I'll look into that then, is it done with a specific item I can just, obliterate?

[@Verosityed]

@@igneo220yes in the case of the soulpire but, all runic weapons can gain the freeze ablity randomly.

[@igneo220]

perhaps I just have to remove the runic weapons then

[@Rare_roundabout]

@@igneo220Maybe removing the rune effect that causes it along with that specific weapon would be more practical. Runic weapons are super fun to play with in my opinion

[@igneo220]

I can look into removing or disabling the specific rune effects then, I just don't know if its actually in the configs

[@ordanarymods4990]

*installs the all flashiest mods on curseforge and tweaks one value* “i have created the perfect game”

[@igneo220]

🐟

[@Echolotl3]

holy crap its ordanary mods creator of immersive weathering

[@TheFlamingSword_]

I really like how you structured these mods and how well they seem to be turning out for multiplayer combat! As someone who is also trying to do a similar endeavor with mods & multiplayer PvP this video has given me a LOT more insight on what to really focus on, keep up the amazing work!

[@igneo220]

thank you so much! I'm glad I could help!

[@JacksonGiroux]

I kinda like the idea of reactable attacks with a wind up, though I know you configd this out for good reason. Perhaps instant on-click attacks can remain, but do less damage? then keep the regular damage attacks with the modded wind up they had. Like light and heavy attacks. This would add a lot of gameplay depth to basic left clicks I think.

[@igneo220]

Well the delay was so little that all ot did was make it frustrating, not reactable, and although i like the idea of light and heavy attacks, its not an option for better combat. Plus im going for a much faster paced feel anyway

[@JacksonGiroux]

@igneo220 Ah I see. Could delay config be a weapon specific thing for certain items like hammers and claymores? Bigger delay and buffed damage would solve the frustration issue, while also letting players who prefer it use faster paced weapons. Im no coder so this might be a selfish / outlandish request tho. I love this projects potential either way, keep at it.

[@AverageNerdGamer]

Minecraft Java combat: Boring and just slow Minecraft Bedrock combat: Skill less spam clicking

[@igneo220]

exactly

[@bat2564]

lol java's combat isn't slow the only reason its slow is because of the OP healing rates

[@minestar2247]

Bedrock has the old 1.8 combat. Man, when will mojang make the combat snapshots offical

[@kingtancred]

Hello! I was just going to like and sub like normal, but - and I swear to everything every considered holy that this is true - when I clicked on the video it was at 69 likes and 666 views. My hands are tied. This moment must be preserved in amber. I will come back to like the video later

[@igneo220]

Lmao thank you for perserving such a fantastic moment in history

[@the_Chess_Commentator]

cool im interested to see where this goes imma big fan and a sweat of pvp u got another sub ;)

[@igneo220]

lmao fantastic! I'll see you there

[@DryCombee]

Turns out Meat Shredder (L_ender's Cataclysm) and the Root and Blood Step spells (Iron's Spells and Spellbooks) are very overpowered when used together since the Blood Step spell helps bypass the Meat Shredder's main weakness, which is mobility, and Root helps immobilize players for up to 30 sec max, which is already enough time to kill someone or at least take out a major chunk of health. [The mods listed here were also used in the video]

[@igneo220]

That is a great point, although irons spells and spell books has since been removed, probably for good reason too lol. Ill update the description, and potentially post an updated combat video, so much has changed lmao

[@Echolotl3]

waiting for the opportunity to be a part of one of these tournaments

[@Echolotl3]

even tho i suck at combat

[@annemarielauren7533]

Another wonderful video once again Igneo, I was wondering if you'd think to make a walkthrough of the kind of combat that you included? Like weapons, types of spells ect.?

[@igneo220]

Thank you so much! Perhaps I will after I get more of the server developed, as of right now who knows what weapons might find their way into the modpack!

[@Ungoverneddrone]

1:36 I know the ender golem spikes when I see them. Peak mod choice.

[@igneo220]

Why thank you! L_enders cataclysm is pretty baller

[@HypaYT]

You mentioned developing infrastructure in the first video, why not add the create mod? It adds plenty of ways to develop infrastructure, including trains and cars (which are actually trains under a road)

[@igneo220]

oh yes, the create mod is actually in there already, I kinda just... forgot to mention it, which was kinda an injustice on my part cuz I think its the greatest mod of all time

[@JacksonGiroux]

PEAK. lotsa mods that increase player power though. will there be any mob mods or other difficulty mods to keep up with the power creep? like the blood moon mod or something? @@igneo220

[@MrSaltyGer]

wanting to build perfection on a game that has imperfections is kinda ... i dunno

[@igneo220]

perfection is technically unachievable no matter how you reach for it. No matter which vessel I choose, issues will always arise, so why not choose minecraft? as I am already well versed and in love with the game already. I may reach for the stars but will never actually grasp them, but maybe I'll grab something better than what was already there regardless

[@MoonLmao]

@@igneo220 "perfection is technically unachievable" lets just ignore terraria then /hj

[@igneo220]

I've actually never played it lmfao

[@MoonLmao]

@@igneo220 give it a shot, you might enjoy it (it also fixes some of the gripes a lot of people have with minecraft, such as inventory and movement)

[@MrSaltyGer]

@@igneo220 well said

[@kakdasfiksterre]

Hey! Question... Are cracked players (for example using Tlauncher) allowed to join? By the way I wanted to say that I really like this project, even if I can't join I would still love to see more.

[@igneo220]

Thats a great question, I'm not entirely sure, If it acts as a perfect replica of a normal client, and can run a modpack then I dont see why not! But if it requires extaordinary extra work on my end it may be unlikely. Im glad you're interested though, thank you!

[@kakdasfiksterre]

@@igneo220 It can run all modpacks from what I know and expirienced, it shouldn't take much work as I've joined a multiplayer modded server made by my friends many times and I had no problems at all and they didn't need to do anything except giving me the modpack and setting the server to allow players with a cracked version. I think that allowing cracked players could be a good thing as your playerbase may get bigger as there are A LOT of players without paid Minecraft!

[@igneo220]

sure then! I don't see why not!

[@stro3277]

Is it possible to add your combat system to my Minecraft server? is it a premium resource I can buy access to? I have been looking to freshen up the combat a bit

[@igneo220]

Its actually just a few mods: parcool, better combat, irons spells and spell books, L_enders cataclysm and a config option in better combat to disable the upswing timer... but yknow I wouldn't mind being paid to put these in your mods folder lmao

[@potisive]

@@igneo220🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@ultimate_pleb]

Should have added epic fights instead of better combat but that's just my preference

[@igneo220]

I like better combat better just cuz you can move while you attack, and i fight the switching between modes jarring in epic fight

[@ultimate_pleb]

@@igneo220 yh on second thought since you have magic mods to better combat would flow better then epic fights, however taking both mods individually i still prefer epic fights but once again that's just me feel free to disagree all you want

[@ItsAsteri_]

​​@@ultimate_plebsame, I normally prefer epicfight, but it always makes melee combat the main aspect of the gameplay, which sometimes doesn't work out. Better combat is also generally more compatible, since it doesn't change vanilla animations.

[@GerbyLoby]

NICE

[@igneo220]

Thank you!

[@MysteriousPotatoe]

You should code all of it exept the optimizations your self

[@igneo220]

This is a super amazing idea that wont result in my untimely demise bashing my head against the wall

[@showmaker8168]

isnt that just the cataclysm arena?

[@igneo220]

Yeah with some modifications, specifically ignis's

[@armourfire9945]

What about death penalties? I think that the standard lose every item upon death is way too harsh for modded Minecraft due to grind. What about a system where you only lose items you didn't have last time you were in claimed chunks? So you still have a sense of risk and danger and making it back alive is rewarding but failing to do so isn't going to make you rage quit

[@igneo220]

ugh, it's a tough one, ive been thinking about this for a really long time lmao, I might just keep it the way it is, maybe just with a grave mod and a hardcore revival one (where you can revive downed players). I like your idea for sure, but it sounds very difficult to implement, at least while im still a beginner modder, perhaps after I learn how to get the server to listen to the entering and leaving of a claimed chunk as an event, especially when it comes to player to player combat. I'll keep this in mind though if i figure something out! thanks for the good ideas!

[@armourfire9945]

Take your time. Death penalties are a very delicate and complicated thing that large studios often mess up. I have yet to find a survival game of large scale to get it right.

[@armourfire9945]

I don't have any game dev or modding experience but it might be fun to talk about ideas so let me know if that would be something you'd be interested in

[@AO_lover]

I don’t know what weapons mod your using, but don’t use spartan weaponry bc rapier is very unbalanced. I know people will say it’s a really bad weapon, but you can pull a funny.

[@igneo220]

that would be simply swords! But I'll take your friendly advice against spartan weaponry regardless, thanks for the tip!

[@Tohminium]

How did you do the weight scale animation? PLEAASE TELL MEEEEE

[@igneo220]

Mwuhahahahaha, that would be done in blockbench, very simple modeling tool, especially if you use the pixeling feature when recording a gif of it for a retro aesthetic

[@Tohminium]

@@igneo220 niceee

[@ImSuchAZero]

WOPPIE

[@Leafphia]

🐸

[@igneo220]

Frog

[@laynebrost5669]

me a bedrock player :(

[@igneo220]

Lmao im so sorry sir, at least you can play the spongebob minecraft expansion